[00:06] pvcportugal: still there? :) [00:08] yeah [00:08] pvcportugal: so what would you like to do? [00:09] At first I just wanted to help somehow [00:09] Talked to a few other members of other teams [00:09] and QA sounded like something useful that I would be available to do [00:11] and you specifically picked lubuntu? [00:11] (not like i'm complaining!) [00:11] yes! [00:12] well wonderful [00:12] I'm relatively new to LUbuntu(been a Ubuntu user for a few years) [00:12] and liked it very much [00:12] great [00:12] have you seen the wiki page? [00:13] I have [00:14] so you probably gather what encompasses qa. is there a particular area you'd like to help out in? [00:15] I don't have a lot of experience with bug fixing and such [00:16] well certainly fixing is a part of it but the big help we need with bugs is triaging them which mainly consists of getting them to the point where developers can work on fixing them [00:16] but if that doesn't float your boat, then you certainly could do testing [00:17] as the wiki states, we need people mainly to test daily development images (i.e. 15.10 right now) and milestones, which are the alphas and betas and final releases of new images [00:17] right [00:17] there's a procedure called a testcase that you follow to install [00:18] if it succeeds, you mark it passed [00:18] if it doesn't, you mark it failed [00:18] so pretty simple ;) [00:18] that would be something I would be willing to do [00:18] the only other part is filing bugs along the way [00:18] cool! [00:18] well all you need is a virtual machine [00:18] maybe if I get more experience in the topic I can eventually help with bug triage [00:19] you're more than welcome to do these installs on some other computer you have but virtual machines are more managable [00:19] though "bare metal" often reveals problems we wouldn't jhave easily been able to predict on a virtual machine [00:19] still most of us, myself included, use virtual machines [00:20] and yes, i think after you've filed a bunch of bugs and know the basic process, bug triage comes naturally [00:20] right, would a partition of the disk work as well? [00:20] not for all testcases, unfortunately [00:21] smoe of the test cases test differnt partitioner tasks, such as installing using the whole disk [00:21] I don't have an extra computer available, so I guess I'll have to stick to the virtual machine [00:21] yep, it works just fine [00:21] have you ever used vms? [00:21] what if my computer has 2 separate disks? [00:22] no I haven't [00:22] wine is kinda like a VM right? [00:22] ok, so there are a bunch of choices, but ultimately i think most folks start with virtualbox because it's easy [00:22] you can get it from the repos [00:23] i like kvm a lot because support is built right into the kernel! [00:23] and yes, wine is *kind of* like a vm [00:23] Oh and one important detail, do I need a lot of disk space? [00:24] just as much disk space as the install takes [00:24] which isn't that much really, especially in lubuntu's case [00:24] you do need to allocate memory to it but i often give 512mb to my vms [00:26] I could definetly allocate that amount of memory [00:26] even more if necessary [00:26] i mean if you're patient, you can even get away with 256 XD [00:27] so to get started, i would first get virtualbox installed [00:27] I could allocate 1-2Gb [00:27] I don't really use any demanding programs on my computer [00:28] in progress [00:28] i usually don't crazy with memory allocation bbecause i do things while i wait for the installs to get done [00:28] and sometimes i might even run multiple vms at a time [00:29] so i reference the wiki page again. i've worked really darn hard to get just about everything you need to know up there [00:29] maybe i could organize it better, but… [00:29] I'll give it a thorough read [00:30] here's where you go to report http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ [00:30] so you do have a launchpad id? [00:31] I'm not sure actually [00:31] I believe I do [00:31] well you'll need one :) [00:31] so make sure you know what it is and how to log in [00:31] is it that account that is linked to ubuntu one? [00:32] yep [00:32] then I do in fact have one [00:32] cool [00:32] that gets used A LOT [00:32] like you will need it to log into the QA Tracker which is what that link above is [00:32] you'll also need it for dealing with bugs [00:33] what is your id? [00:33] I have to check, but I believe it is pvcportugal [00:33] let me see [00:33] yes it ids [00:33] is i mean [00:33] i just added you to the lubuntu-qa team [00:34] you should make sure to go on there and subscribe to the mailing list https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa [00:34] here and the mailing list are your best sources if you need help or find something really weird and just to get an idea of what's happening [00:35] you may see a fair amount of talk about lxqt. we are in the process of slowly transitioning from using lxde which uses gtk libraries to using lxqt which is a different branch of lxde that uses qt libraries [00:36] occassionally we will call out for testing a particular piece of software or two as part of that [00:37] so right now we have two upcoming releases: [00:37] 1. Ubuntu 14.04.3 on August 6 [00:37] 2. Ubuntu 15.10 on October 22nd [00:38] note that official milestone testing (i.e. alpha) begins June 25 [00:38] the Alphas and Betas will result in an actual released image which is available to the general public [00:38] technically all the images are but you may have to dig a bit more for the non-official releases :) [00:38] so there are daily images being built currently for both of those two releases [00:39] Wily/15.10 is here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/340/builds [00:39] and Trusty/14.04.3 is here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds [00:39] in general, the trusty one shouldn't need a lot of heavy testing [00:40] it should just be security fixes and such [00:40] so it doesn't need as much attention as the actuall development image [00:40] shoot i'm talking to myself aren't i :) === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun === aaron is now known as ahoneybun === aaron is now known as ahoneybun [21:36] gsilvapt: around? [21:36] yeap [21:37] I have a link for you [21:37] https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual [21:37] written in RST [21:37] main docs are in source/docs [21:38] welcome page is in source [21:38] Looks smaller than those written in TeX [21:38] But looks good :) [21:38] would be a lot easier to edit though [21:39] gsilvapt: ianorlyn the best part is that I can convert to TeX [21:39] the pdf is made with latex but I can use pandoc to make it as well [21:40] ianorlyn, he insisted on RST, although since it is that flexible, cool enough [21:41] gsilvapt: Like I agreed with you in the email thread (which I should have taken to the ubuntu-doc ML) we might just use 2 or so langs as core langs [21:41] ahoneybun: Why on github? [21:41] 2 or so would be best to limit the need for new contributors to learn (if they are not ok with filing bug reports) [21:42] Unit193: I don't have the keys and such set up on this laptop (had to reinstall) [21:42] ahoneybun, you can add new ones [21:42] It was easier in short [21:42] Ah, fun times, reinstalls... [21:42] gsilvapt: nah [21:42] By the way, you can still add it on Launchpad via GitHub [21:43] I have the files backed up so I just need to know how add the key back [21:43] yea that is what is awesome now gsilvapt [21:43] * ahoneybun really needs to update his slideshow now [21:44] No, the awesome part is git support in LP, mirroring has been there for a while :P [21:44] use git commands in LP now [21:48] gsilvapt: LaTeX = TeX? [21:49] LaTeX is a set of macros on top of TeX [21:49] oh ok [21:58] gsilvapt: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6zAAODZFwQ2SGJCQ1YxRE1IaUU/view?usp=sharing [22:12] Hello, can I boot my VM with a pendrive?(using virtualbox) [22:18] pvcportugal: you mean put the iso on a pendrive? [22:20] yes [22:21] just like a common pendrive instalation [22:24] I normally just use the iso file [22:24] pendrives don't have wear leveling [22:26] I thought I had to either burn the iso [22:26] or put it on a pendrive or something [22:26] pvcportugal: for bare metal install usually [22:27] I never did when I used virtualbox but mostly use qemu/kvm [22:28] I guess I didn't really understand how to use the VM(noob here) [22:29] basically virtualbox lets you boot from the iso as fake cd dvd drive [22:29] how am I supposed to use the ISO direcly? [22:29] I think you click add on the cd drive and select the iso file [22:29] but I have only used on linux hosts [22:32] I found it [22:33] can't believe I didn't before [22:34] thanks [22:36] can I simulate any Lubuntu(i386, amd64 etc)? [22:36] or i can only use the ones I would normaly use in my computer? [22:37] pvcportugal: no. virtualbox really can't handle software emulating another architecture. QEMU can, i think. [22:37] pvcportugal: I think you need hardware support for amd64 and some wierd guest additions [22:38] I've stayed with the same hardware (ie. I have x64 so I use x64 ISO's [22:39] ahoneybun: with virtualbox with my core 2 duo t6500 on my laptop I can't run kvm and could only run i386 in virtualbox as I did not have vt-x [22:39] well I can run kvm locally on that cpu it is pretty easy to setup kvm-qemu to go over ssh and wifi and run the vms on my desktop [22:40] http://wiki.qemu.org/Main_Page [22:40] tl;dr it can handle hardware virtualization [22:40] yes but is slow [22:41] without kvm [22:41] but i'll warn you it's DARN slow [22:41] yep :) [22:41] you could run for DEC alpha with qemu [22:41] * wxl looks around for the DEC Alpha ISO [22:50] * ahoneybun waves at wxl