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Munto | hi | 13:10 |
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Munto | how can i remove a single package from the metapackage lubuntu-desktop ? | 13:10 |
Eliz | Munto: I don't think you can, I remember Kamilion complaining about this | 13:13 |
Eliz | I think, essentially, you need to mark all the other packages as being manually installed with http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/apt-mark.8.html | 13:13 |
Eliz | so that when you do remove a single package, they won't all be removed | 13:14 |
Munto | oh great, i will take a look | 13:14 |
Munto | thank you Eliz | 13:14 |
baizon | hi, can someone tell why lubuntu.net is down? | 14:42 |
knoddix | hey guys i have recently installed lubuntu 15.04 on an older machine to test it out ans hopefully use it as my go to distro for older machines from now on but I have an issue with fstab I have used an fstab example file that I have used to create my fstab files previously on bodhi linux and linux mint without an issue and the shares seem to mount if i sudo mount -a but dont automount on boot I suspect its a permissions issue but i | 15:24 |
knoddix | with 770 to no avail | 15:24 |
knoddix | any suggestions would be greatly appreciated | 15:25 |
holstein | what i would do is seperate these issues out. i would install, with just the main hard drive, and test.. and see that the distro works.. then, address what i need in fstab one by one | 15:25 |
holstein | if i have, say, an ntfs windows partition, i would just use the normal ubuntu documentation for adding that to fstab | 15:25 |
knoddix | all four items that are not auto mounting are samba shares 1 mounted via smbfs and the other 3 are mounted via CIFS | 15:26 |
holstein | not sure what 'all four times' means, but, i would see that the OS is installing, and working.. is that the case? | 15:27 |
holstein | then, i would just start with the question at hand.. "im trying to automount a samba share".. or whatever | 15:27 |
knoddix | 3 are natively NTFS one is natively os extended journalled although I dont think thats relevant | 15:27 |
holstein | for my ntfs partition i had years back, i added it to fstab with the ubuntu documentation for fstab | 15:28 |
holstein | !fstab | 15:28 |
ubottu | The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions | 15:28 |
knoddix | sorry major typo I meant shares | 15:28 |
holstein | i have never, personally, automounted any samba shares, but, i would try the ubuntu documentation for that | 15:28 |
holstein | !samba | 15:28 |
ubottu | Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/windows-networking.html | 15:28 |
holstein | the "mount shares permanently" part.. | 15:29 |
holstein | i would backup the default fstab that is working, and know how to address replacing that, from a live iso, or whatever, if something "broke".. | 15:29 |
knoddix | what protocol would you recommend to share linux to linux i.e 2 ubuntu based distros ? | 15:29 |
holstein | knoddix: i use ssh .. but samba works well linux to linux | 15:30 |
holstein | but, thats not what you are asking.. you are asking how to make fstab's from another os automatically work and mount shares. and that may not work | 15:30 |
knoddix | cool yeah I have never really used SSH as a file transfer protocol but use it often for remote management so I mght look into that too | 15:31 |
holstein | i use, personally, an ssh server, and the terminal, or gigolo as a client | 15:31 |
holstein | !info gigolo | 15:31 |
ubottu | gigolo (source: gigolo): frontend to manage connections to remote filesystems using GIO/GVfs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.2-1 (vivid), package size 130 kB, installed size 1001 kB | 15:31 |
holstein | i will make windows and other OS's speak on that level to linux, rather than bolting on something to linux | 15:32 |
holstein | but, samba works fine, and, AFAIK, from linux to linux, works well | 15:32 |
ki7mt | samba works well either way .. *Nix to *Nix or *Nix to *Other | 15:36 |
holstein | sure, but, AFAIK, it works "better", meaning different, from linux to linux | 15:37 |
holstein | so i have read.. rather than, the samba implementation doing what it can to speak to actual windows shares | 15:37 |
holstein | but, YMMV.. all im saying is, i feel this has taken a turn to using something other than samba, which, i dont think is necessary | 15:38 |
holstein | i think what will be necessary is building those fstab lines with the current OS in mind, specifically | 15:38 |
ki7mt | if you don't like Samba, what about SSHFS? there is a time out situation, but that can be resolved by editing the ssd config time out parameter. | 15:40 |
holstein | i dont think knoddix "doesnt like" samba. i think its just that the fstab files that have, in the past, automounted the current samba shares, and likely a local partition, are not "just working" when dropped into lubuntu | 15:41 |
ki7mt | SO is the issues that the shares are not automoutning or just not mounting manually? | 15:43 |
ki7mt | sri I had to read up the channel a bit. | 15:43 |
holstein | from what i read above, they shares/partitions mount manually.. just not with the fstab from some other OS that worked on some other OS's | 15:44 |
ki7mt | So there not automounting then | 15:44 |
ki7mt | Re: from fstab | 15:45 |
holstein | the fstab is not automounting the shares.. the fstab created for, and used in other OS's.. and not linked here | 15:45 |
holstein | since they mount manually, the fstab would be where i would start troubleshooting | 15:45 |
ki7mt | Yeah, I'd check the UUID's first: ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid/ then ensure they are correct and the the default param's | 15:46 |
holstein | could be literally that simple | 15:47 |
holstein | os's referring to path's differently | 15:47 |
holstein | i would just test the default, and then add them one at a time, testing as i go.. building *new* lines, relevant to the current OS | 15:47 |
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