[13:10] <Munto> hi
[13:10] <Munto> how can i remove a single package from the metapackage lubuntu-desktop ?
[13:13] <Eliz> Munto: I don't think you can, I remember Kamilion complaining about this
[13:13] <Eliz> I think, essentially, you need to mark all the other packages as being manually installed with http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/apt-mark.8.html
[13:14] <Eliz> so that when you do remove a single package, they won't all be removed
[13:14] <Munto> oh great, i will take a look
[13:14] <Munto> thank you Eliz
[14:42] <baizon> hi, can someone tell why lubuntu.net is down?
[15:24] <knoddix> hey guys i have recently installed lubuntu 15.04 on an older machine to test it out ans hopefully use it as my go to distro for older machines from now on but I have an issue with fstab I have used an fstab example file that I have used to create my fstab files previously on bodhi linux and linux mint without an issue and the shares seem to mount if i sudo mount -a but dont automount on boot I suspect its a permissions issue but i 
[15:24] <knoddix> with 770 to no avail
[15:25] <knoddix> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
[15:25] <holstein> what i would do is seperate these issues out. i would install, with just the main hard drive, and test.. and see that the distro works.. then, address what i need in fstab one by one
[15:25] <holstein> if i have, say, an ntfs windows partition, i would just use the normal ubuntu documentation for adding that to fstab
[15:26] <knoddix> all four items that are not auto mounting are samba shares 1 mounted via smbfs and the other 3 are mounted via CIFS
[15:27] <holstein> not sure what 'all four times' means, but, i would see that the OS is installing, and working.. is that the case?
[15:27] <holstein> then, i would just start with the question at hand.. "im trying  to automount a samba share".. or whatever
[15:27] <knoddix> 3 are natively  NTFS one is natively os extended journalled although I dont think thats relevant
[15:28] <holstein> for my ntfs partition i had years back, i added it to fstab with the ubuntu documentation for fstab
[15:28] <holstein> !fstab
[15:28] <knoddix> sorry major typo I meant shares
[15:28] <holstein> i have never, personally, automounted any samba shares, but, i would try the ubuntu documentation for that
[15:28] <holstein> !samba
[15:29] <holstein> the "mount shares permanently" part..
[15:29] <holstein> i would backup the default fstab that is working, and know how to address replacing that, from a live iso, or whatever, if something "broke"..
[15:29] <knoddix> what protocol would you recommend to share linux to linux i.e 2 ubuntu based distros ?
[15:30] <holstein> knoddix: i use ssh .. but samba works well linux to linux
[15:30] <holstein> but, thats not what you are asking.. you are asking how to make fstab's from another os automatically work and mount shares. and that may not work
[15:31] <knoddix> cool yeah I have never really used SSH as a file transfer protocol but use it often for remote management so I mght look into that too
[15:31] <holstein> i use, personally, an ssh server, and the terminal, or gigolo as a client
[15:31] <holstein> !info gigolo
[15:32] <holstein> i will make windows and other OS's speak on that level to linux, rather than bolting on something to linux
[15:32] <holstein> but, samba works fine,  and, AFAIK, from linux to linux, works well
[15:36] <ki7mt> samba works well either way .. *Nix to *Nix or *Nix to *Other
[15:37] <holstein> sure, but, AFAIK, it works "better", meaning different, from linux to linux
[15:37] <holstein> so i have read.. rather than, the samba implementation doing what it can to speak to actual windows shares
[15:38] <holstein> but, YMMV.. all im saying is, i feel this has taken a turn to using something other than samba, which, i dont think is necessary
[15:38] <holstein> i think what will be necessary is building those fstab lines with the current OS in mind, specifically
[15:40] <ki7mt> if you don't like Samba, what about SSHFS? there is a time out situation, but that can be resolved by editing the ssd config time out parameter.
[15:41] <holstein> i dont think knoddix "doesnt like" samba. i think its just that the fstab files that have, in the past, automounted the current samba shares, and likely a local partition, are not "just working" when dropped into lubuntu
[15:43] <ki7mt> SO is the issues that the shares are not automoutning or just not mounting manually?
[15:43] <ki7mt> sri I had to read up the channel a bit.
[15:44] <holstein> from what i read above, they shares/partitions mount manually.. just not with the fstab from some other OS that worked on some other OS's
[15:44] <ki7mt> So there not automounting then
[15:45] <ki7mt> Re: from fstab
[15:45] <holstein> the fstab is not automounting the shares.. the fstab created for, and used in other OS's.. and not linked here
[15:45] <holstein> since they mount manually, the fstab would be where i would start troubleshooting
[15:46] <ki7mt> Yeah, I'd check the UUID's first: ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid/   then ensure they are correct and the the default param's
[15:47] <holstein> could be literally that simple
[15:47] <holstein> os's referring to path's differently
[15:47] <holstein> i would just test the default, and then add them one at a time, testing as i go.. building *new* lines, relevant to the current OS