=== WildSoft_ is now known as WildSoft [13:10] hi [13:10] how can i remove a single package from the metapackage lubuntu-desktop ? [13:13] Munto: I don't think you can, I remember Kamilion complaining about this [13:13] I think, essentially, you need to mark all the other packages as being manually installed with http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/apt-mark.8.html [13:14] so that when you do remove a single package, they won't all be removed [13:14] oh great, i will take a look [13:14] thank you Eliz [14:42] hi, can someone tell why lubuntu.net is down? [15:24] hey guys i have recently installed lubuntu 15.04 on an older machine to test it out ans hopefully use it as my go to distro for older machines from now on but I have an issue with fstab I have used an fstab example file that I have used to create my fstab files previously on bodhi linux and linux mint without an issue and the shares seem to mount if i sudo mount -a but dont automount on boot I suspect its a permissions issue but i [15:24] with 770 to no avail [15:25] any suggestions would be greatly appreciated [15:25] what i would do is seperate these issues out. i would install, with just the main hard drive, and test.. and see that the distro works.. then, address what i need in fstab one by one [15:25] if i have, say, an ntfs windows partition, i would just use the normal ubuntu documentation for adding that to fstab [15:26] all four items that are not auto mounting are samba shares 1 mounted via smbfs and the other 3 are mounted via CIFS [15:27] not sure what 'all four times' means, but, i would see that the OS is installing, and working.. is that the case? [15:27] then, i would just start with the question at hand.. "im trying to automount a samba share".. or whatever [15:27] 3 are natively NTFS one is natively os extended journalled although I dont think thats relevant [15:28] for my ntfs partition i had years back, i added it to fstab with the ubuntu documentation for fstab [15:28] !fstab [15:28] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [15:28] sorry major typo I meant shares [15:28] i have never, personally, automounted any samba shares, but, i would try the ubuntu documentation for that [15:28] !samba [15:28] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/windows-networking.html [15:29] the "mount shares permanently" part.. [15:29] i would backup the default fstab that is working, and know how to address replacing that, from a live iso, or whatever, if something "broke".. [15:29] what protocol would you recommend to share linux to linux i.e 2 ubuntu based distros ? [15:30] knoddix: i use ssh .. but samba works well linux to linux [15:30] but, thats not what you are asking.. you are asking how to make fstab's from another os automatically work and mount shares. and that may not work [15:31] cool yeah I have never really used SSH as a file transfer protocol but use it often for remote management so I mght look into that too [15:31] i use, personally, an ssh server, and the terminal, or gigolo as a client [15:31] !info gigolo [15:31] gigolo (source: gigolo): frontend to manage connections to remote filesystems using GIO/GVfs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.2-1 (vivid), package size 130 kB, installed size 1001 kB [15:32] i will make windows and other OS's speak on that level to linux, rather than bolting on something to linux [15:32] but, samba works fine, and, AFAIK, from linux to linux, works well [15:36] samba works well either way .. *Nix to *Nix or *Nix to *Other [15:37] sure, but, AFAIK, it works "better", meaning different, from linux to linux [15:37] so i have read.. rather than, the samba implementation doing what it can to speak to actual windows shares [15:38] but, YMMV.. all im saying is, i feel this has taken a turn to using something other than samba, which, i dont think is necessary [15:38] i think what will be necessary is building those fstab lines with the current OS in mind, specifically [15:40] if you don't like Samba, what about SSHFS? there is a time out situation, but that can be resolved by editing the ssd config time out parameter. [15:41] i dont think knoddix "doesnt like" samba. i think its just that the fstab files that have, in the past, automounted the current samba shares, and likely a local partition, are not "just working" when dropped into lubuntu [15:43] SO is the issues that the shares are not automoutning or just not mounting manually? [15:43] sri I had to read up the channel a bit. [15:44] from what i read above, they shares/partitions mount manually.. just not with the fstab from some other OS that worked on some other OS's [15:44] So there not automounting then [15:45] Re: from fstab [15:45] the fstab is not automounting the shares.. the fstab created for, and used in other OS's.. and not linked here [15:45] since they mount manually, the fstab would be where i would start troubleshooting [15:46] Yeah, I'd check the UUID's first: ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid/ then ensure they are correct and the the default param's [15:47] could be literally that simple [15:47] os's referring to path's differently [15:47] i would just test the default, and then add them one at a time, testing as i go.. building *new* lines, relevant to the current OS