[00:17] <jrwren> you are looking for information about Xen?
[00:22] <RoyK> I thought amazon was moving on to kvm these days
[00:29] <jrwren> good point. I've no idea. I know they used to do Xen. One should investigate this ;]
[00:41] <Rob__> is there an easy way to bail to busybox prior to getting into the meat of the boot in initramfs so I can check on a few things?
[00:44] <Patrickdk> break=mount ?
[08:02] <hadifarnoud> what is the best open source email server that allows creation of accounts via an API?
[08:04] <rbasak> hadifarnoud: pretty much all of them - they generally support LDAP.
[08:04] <hadifarnoud> rbasak: but LDAP doesn't cut it for me. I need a REST API to manage those accounts
[08:24] <tlyng> I'm having problems writing an upstart script and are wondering if someone could help out. It's line #30 at http://pastebin.com/Tx8Epf1p which is not working (/proc/self/fd/9: [ !: not found)
[09:02] <caribou> Anyone here familiar with CEPH's upstart configuration & not sleeping in Vancouver ?
[10:46] <hadifarnoud> I want to give my customers email with their own domain. We have a site builder app and allowing them to have emails on their own domain is a must. what do you recommend?
[20:46] <hxm> hi, I have upgraded ubuntu and now mysql won't start, the mysql.err is empty and I dont find any info about this
[20:47] <Seveas> check /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log. My spideysense is blaming apparmor :)
[20:49] <jjohansen> hxm: easiest way is grep DENIED /var/log/syslog  and /var/log/kern.log  that will show up any apparmor rejects
[20:49] <hxm> yea that's what the first I did Seveas & jjohansen but no mysql lines in those files
[20:51] <jjohansen> hxm: hrmmm well then it is likely not apparmor
[21:03] <sarnold> hxm: anything in dmesg?Z
[21:16] <hxm> no
[21:17] <hxm> but I think I found the problem
[21:17] <hxm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11213028/
[21:17] <hxm> is like mysql-server 5.6 won't support previous config files?
[21:18] <RoyK> the only reason to use mysql is with applications that don't support postgresql :P
[21:18] <hxm> ok
[21:19] <hxm> i don't win the war just because start an other war
[21:19] <hxm> just starting*
[21:20] <sarnold> yeah, mysql updates sometimes break things. oracle is just trying to remind you that they also sell a "real database" if you'd like to employ one of their certified DBAs...
[21:20] <RoyK> hehe
[21:20] <RoyK> yeah - just $20k for the wee Oracle server
[21:23] <hxm> $20k more than mysql
[21:23] <RoyK> and $20k more than postgresql
[21:23] <RoyK> which does things better than mysql in almost any way
[21:24] <RoyK> but then, things like wordpress are fixed on mysql, so we're stuck with it with some apps
[21:24] <sarnold> I suspect that says as much about those apps as anything else..
[21:24] <RoyK> I've been working hard to move everything possible over to postgresql
[21:24] <RoyK> sarnold: indeed
[21:25] <RoyK> sarnold: hardcoded SQL in the plugins is the main cause
[21:25] <RoyK> ugly indeed
[21:25] <sarnold> RoyK: those very same plugins that are a steady stream of CVE requests? :)
[21:25] <RoyK> CVE?
[21:26]  * RoyK is not a developer :P
[21:27] <sarnold> RoyK: mitre vulnerability identifiers
[21:28] <RoyK> oh, that CVE
[21:28] <RoyK> half eleven and I'm tired :P
[21:28] <sarnold> we're getting old man, we're gettin gold..
[21:29] <RoyK> hehe
[21:31] <RoyK> sarnold: I taped this on the door to the developers at work https://xkcd.com/327/
[21:32] <sarnold> RoyK: hahaha a classic :)
[21:32] <RoyK> sarnold: and then they took it down and I taped this up http://xkcd.com/1513/
[21:33] <RoyK> (see mouseover on the last one :D)
[21:33] <sarnold> RoyK: hahhaaha
[21:41] <RoyK> sarnold: I taped that to their door and waited an hour or two when I found them somewhat clustered around it, puzzled, asking who put it up, and once they saw me, HA! CAUGHT!
[21:41] <sarnold> hahaha
[21:47] <RoyK> sarnold: we're still friends, the developers and I <(
[21:47] <RoyK> ;)
[21:48] <sarnold> haha good
[22:41] <roy_> what is a good way to backup a server off server automatically at set times
[22:48] <RoyK> roy_: what sort of backup software?
[22:48] <roy_> I looking for a way to backup server
[22:49] <RoyK> backup to tape? to disk? to cloud?
[22:49] <roy_> maybe offline to s3
[22:49] <RoyK> rsync? dirvish?
[22:49] <RoyK> lots of software out there
[22:50] <RoyK> dirvish is old, but it works
[22:50] <RoyK> backuppc is perhaps a bit more modern
[22:53] <roy_> ok
[22:53] <roy_> Am looking for one which is easy to setup
[22:55] <sarnold> RoyK: "FAQ last updated Wednesday, 2005 February 16 by Keith Lofstrom" hehe more than ten years since the last time anyone remembered to update the faq change time :) looks promising, hehe
[22:56] <RoyK> hehe