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Kilosmorning all05:01
Jacques_StryMorning05:41
Kiloshi Jacques_Stry  05:41
PathfinderJacques_Stry: Morning05:41
Kiloshi Pathfinder  barrydk  05:42
barrydkMore Kilos and others05:42
mazalMorning everyone06:12
ThatGraemeGuymornings06:12
Kiloshi mazal  ThatGraemeGuy  06:12
* Jacques_Stry waves06:12
* ThatGraemeGuy drowns in the wave06:13
mazalSjoe this weekend was short :P06:13
Kiloslol06:13
mazalI need it over06:13
Kiloswait 5 days and start again06:14
mazalThat's along wait06:14
Kilosrest more next weekend06:17
inetprogood mornings07:26
Kiloshi inetpro  07:27
pieter2627hi all07:39
Kiloshi pieter2627  07:39
KilosPathfinder  ask you question again, maybe today someone has an answer for you07:40
ThatGraemeGuy<Pathfinder> [13:45:12] is there a php similar robust server like unicorn for ruby?08:14
ThatGraemeGuythat question?08:14
Kilosya that was it ThatGraemeGuy  08:15
ThatGraemeGuyhe's sleeping08:15
ThatGraemeGuyor dead08:15
ThatGraemeGuyhopefully sleeping08:15
Kilosmust be at work08:16
elacheche<ThatGraemeGuy> <Pathfinder> [13:45:12] is there a php similar robust server like unicorn for ruby? → Apache OR nginx08:16
elachecheo/08:16
Kiloshmm...08:21
Pathfinderelacheche: I was thinking of a specific app server then I just use  NGINX as a reverse proxy08:52
Pathfinder@all: I was swamped at work :(08:52
Pathfinder....Nginx only works well when serving static php pages..so you have to pair it with an app server or something like php5-fpm which I hate09:00
elachecheWhy don't use Apache Pathfinder 09:11
ThatGraemeGuyFPM is it afaik09:17
ThatGraemeGuythere's a web server of sorts but its not suited to production09:17
TinuvaMacwhats wrong with php-fpm?09:31
Kiloshaha09:31
Kilosask the fly09:32
TinuvaMacsometimes i dont understand why people dont like perfectly good software09:36
elacheche+1 TinuvaMac :) ThatGraemeGuy wanna explain more your opinion?09:41
ThatGraemeGuywhat should I explain?09:42
ThatGraemeGuy*confused*09:42
TinuvaMacno its Pathfinder that needs to explain09:42
elachecheOups.. Sorry ThatGraemeGuy ;o09:43
elacheche:p09:43
jrgnswhy is fpm not suited to production?09:55
jrgnsoh, and hello all :)09:55
ThatGraemeGuythat isn't what i said09:55
Kiloshi jrgns  09:55
jrgnsah, soz, reread that. FPM is a good option, yes09:57
Kiloshttp://python.p2pu.org/10:08
Kilossomeone wanted to learn python10:08
ThatGraemeGuyalmost a year of minetesting and I finally got a nyancat and 3 rainbow blocks10:11
Kiloslol10:11
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magespawngood afternoon11:13
Kiloshi magespawn  11:32
mazalOi , my inet very unstable today :(11:37
PathfinderI wanna check something else that php-fpm out just for adventure11:37
Pathfinderelacheche: I don't wanna use Apache coz we already have other applications running that utilise nginx and we haven't found a reason to replace it yet..I find it easier to work with than apache plus its lightweight and I am running on a kinda small vm11:38
MopkopHello everyone!11:42
Kiloshi Mopkop  11:43
mazalAnybody else on Afrihost having issues today ?11:51
Mopkopmazal: Nope, not here. At least I haven't encountered any yet...11:55
mazalI keep lossing connection and it's ips disconnection everytime11:55
mazalloosing* isp*11:55
mazalIf the router can be belived anyway11:55
Kiloshmm... everything so ingewikkeld12:00
MopkopYou can check your usage history on their client-zone According to mine I've been having a continuous conncection since 8 am this morning. So I am not experiencing the same problem.12:03
MopkopOops.12:03
MopkopKilos: How do I get Maaz to tell him that when he returns?12:04
Kilosjust say maaz tell mazal message12:04
MopkopThank you :)12:05
Kilosyw12:05
MopkopMaaz tell mazal: You can check your usage history on their client-zone. According to mine I've been having a continuous connection since 8 am this morning. So I am not experiencing the same problem.12:06
MaazMopkop: I don't know who mazal: is. Say 'mazal: on freenode' and I'll take your word that mazal: exists12:06
Kiloslol12:06
Mopkopaai...12:06
MopkopMaaz tell mazal on freenode You can check your usage history on their client-zone. According to mine I've been having a continuous connection since 8 am this morning. So I am not experiencing the same problem12:06
MaazMopkop: Okay, I'll tell mazal on freenode12:06
Kilossay mazal on freenode12:06
Kiloscool12:06
Kilossometimes he recognises peeps12:07
MopkopWelcome back Pathfinder!12:07
PathfinderMopkop: Bad connection :(12:07
MopkopWhy is everyone having connection problems today?12:08
Kilosnot me12:08
PathfinderMopkop: Was using some fucked up ISP before12:09
Kilosmazal  say maaz hi12:12
Kilosoh you got it in pm?12:12
magespawni stay online but very slow browsing12:55
=== MaNI2 is now known as MaNI
stickyboyhttps://mjanja.ch/2015/05/brck-in-violation-of-the-gpl13:22
stickyboyPublished my analysis of BRCK (Kenyan company) violation of the GPL.13:23
stickyboyGet it while it's hot, before the sue me for slander.13:23
stickyboyOr some other unrelated legal technicality.13:23
Mopkopmagespawn: I get that from time-to-time. So I think it might be Afrihost. This does not seem to happen to everyone all the time. I find some sites are still fast. Try bing.com, and see if it is faster.13:24
ThatGraemeGuymagespawn: do you have another ISP account you can test with? determine if its Afrihost or exchange congestion13:25
ThatGraemeGuyweb africa will give you a 1GB free account which is good for that kind of testing13:26
ThatGraemeGuyalso is it capped or uncapped, the afrihost account?13:26
Mopkopstickyboy: I think it is very important for embedded-systems to be accompanied with source-code. If you only have the binaries what is to stop the makers from including spyware or some other malware? There would be no way of noticing that. GPL was set up to prevent this. So I agree with you that these companies or communities should be sure to comply to every technicality of GPL.13:35
MaNIif you have the source code how do you know the binaries were actually compiled using that code :)13:37
MaNIwould have to mandate something like gitian along with the source code for it to make a difference there13:37
MopkopMaNI: You can compile it yourself and compare. Assuming you have the same system, with the same compiler and linker, you should get the same binaries bit-for-bit. Of course they can just appeal to different systems as the reason for the difference in binaries, but with the source, at least you can compile it yourself and be sure there are no spyware. But I guess it all comes down to trust.13:41
MaNIbinaries can differ on the exact same machine two compiles in a row just because of time13:42
MopkopOh, I didn't know that :P13:43
MaNIyou'd have to reproduce the exact same compiler flags, cpu and dependencies at a minimum (not an easy feat), not saying it can't be done but it's is not something that any random person can just go and do - something like gitian is an attempt at solving this problem13:47
MaNIhttps://gitian.org/13:47
stickyboyMopkop: Thanks for the support.13:49
magespawnhi ThatGraemeGuy 13:50
magespawnit is capped13:50
magespawni have tested another account,  think it is the adsl itself at the moment13:51
magespawnhome time later all14:00
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KilosRynomster  wb14:16
Kiloswhats with all the nicks14:16
KilosMopkop  what are you doing?14:26
MopkopPlaying games. Nothing useful to do today...14:27
Kiloslol here is something useful to do14:27
Kilosim trying to make google see/index our africa site quicker but dont understand half the stuff14:28
MopkopOk I'll help. It's called SEO.14:28
Kiloshttp://is.gd/nFK10c14:29
MopkopLet's see, there are a few things only the Fly can do...14:29
Kilosoh you know, ive been rtfs till im blind14:29
Kilosis this what fly must do https://www.xml-sitemaps.com14:30
Kilosmapping14:30
Kilosi dont know if i can map it to my account14:30
MopkopYou see you need to create a webmasters account. To do this you need to confirm you are the owner by pasting some code on to the site, which only Fly can do. Nikola automatically creates a sitemap I believe.14:31
MopkopI think there are some other things we can do to get our site on their.14:31
MopkopGoogle only needs to find one website which links to our site to find it. So is the site linked on Wiki?14:32
Kilosi have put it in my wiki oage i think14:36
Kilospage14:36
MopkopIn addition. Once we are up, everyone should type in "Ubuntu Africa" in google, scroll down till they find the site and click on it. This will help get it on top.14:36
MopkopGoogle analytics can help too.14:36
MopkopBut Fly will have to do that too.14:37
Kilosoh my14:37
Rynomsterhey Kilos, sorz been busy busy.. making android stuffs xD14:40
Kilosnp Rynomster  just say hi now and again14:40
Rynomsterhehe :) how are you?14:40
MopkopI found ubuntu-info at location 200 and something. So we are up, we just need some more SEO.14:40
Kilosim good ty and you?14:41
MopkopThis sometimes take months.14:41
KilosMopkop  SEO14:41
Kilos?14:41
Rynomsterim good thanks :) just need to like work more and play less14:41
RynomsterSearch Engine Optimisation14:41
Kiloslol14:41
MopkopSearch Engine Optimization. It's to get your site higher on Google.14:42
Kilosya we need to do that thing14:42
Kiloseven ubuntu-za is on the second page of google stuff14:42
MopkopOnly if you Google Ubuntu Africa. It's on the first page if you Google Ubuntu South Africa.14:44
Kilosnormal peeps wont think of ubuntu-info14:44
MopkopNo, they will type Ubuntu Africa. But we need to go and click on ubuntu-africa.info so Google can put it up higher. It will also help if we link the Africa site from our ZA site.14:45
KilosMopkop  how does one link it to the wiki14:46
MopkopHmm, let's see. Where is the wiki page again?14:46
Kilosi have a link to it here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos14:47
Kilosunder contributions14:47
MopkopIt's already linked on that page.14:48
MopkopIt seems like you just copy-paste the address. 14:48
Kilosoh14:48
Kilosi want to try get bing and yahoo to see it as well14:49
MopkopOh that reminds me. I was supposed to update my wiki...14:49
Kilosi have no idea how people are actually finding it at the momen14:49
Kilost14:49
MopkopBing and yahoo works with the same principle. You need to be Superfly and then you can get a webmaster account from each search engine. But all modern search engine finds sites by "crawling" through other sites and following all the links.14:51
MopkopAre there people who have responded on the site?14:51
Kilosyes quite a few14:52
MopkopHmm. Maybe we should ask them how they found us.14:52
Kilosone guy from germany said he went through everything about ubuntu and africa and found it14:53
Kilosbut i cant14:53
Kiloshe comes online nearly every day Benno-007 or something14:53
MopkopHmm, let's see. Maybe he got it on the loco-list on wiki.14:55
MopkopThat's where I found this channel.14:55
Kilosah14:55
MopkopOh wait, we're not listed...14:56
Mopkophttp://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/14:56
Kilossouth africa ubuntu teams14:56
MopkopWe should ask them to list the Africa team.14:56
Kilosonly 3 are verified14:56
Kilosoh you mean the africa site14:57
Kilosteam14:57
Kilosits not a loco, thats the prob14:57
Kilosits the whole continent14:58
MopkopBut we function as a Loco, or do I have that wrong?14:58
Kilosi had long discussions trying to make it a super loco or something similar but they didnt want to bite14:58
Kilosza does but the africa irc channel and site dont actually14:59
MopkopOh, that's too bad. Because many countries only have a few active members. It would be nice if we can throw everyone together. 15:00
MopkopWe should at least get listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList15:02
Kiloslemme go see15:02
Kiloswrite a script that will keep google searching and finding ubuntu africa till its on top15:03
MopkopLol, no you cannot do that. Google has safe-gaurds, otherwise everyone would do that. They actually only count one click per person per day, or something like that.15:04
Kiloseish15:04
MopkopAnyway, I need to prepare for Church, We have a Pentecostal series this week, and I have to do the technical things like projector. See you later DV.15:05
Kilosok ty15:05
Kiloshaha who made this https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/15:13
arnaudmezhi Kilos16:28
Kiloshi arnaudmez  16:29
Kiloswhat are you breaking16:29
arnaudmeznothing 16:29
arnaudmezbusy building 16:29
Kilosyay16:29
Kilosgood16:29
arnaudmeztell me please how much cost an Ubuntu training and how long does it take (on training center i mean)16:30
Kilosoh my16:31
Kilosarnaudmez  Ubuntu or Linux training?16:33
arnaudmezUbuntu first16:34
arnaudmezLinux after16:34
Kilosubuntu you just install and get help here lol16:34
Kilosyou just need to know how to open a terminal and use commands you are advised to use and save them16:35
Kilosi dont know if there is actual ubuntu training16:36
Kiloshi SilverCode  16:38
superflyKilos: #1 way to get your site to the top of the page: make links to it from other sites <a href="http://ubuntu-africa.info/" title="Ubuntu Africa">Ubuntu Africa</a>17:28
Kilossuperfly  hi, do i use that whole thing?17:29
Kilos<a href="http://ubuntu-africa.info/" title="Ubuntu Africa">Ubuntu Africa</a>17:29
magespawngood evening17:29
Kiloshi magespawn  17:30
superflyKilos: that's the link.17:30
superflyas in, the HTML for the link17:30
Kilosai!17:30
Kilosinetpro  heres a nice easy job for you17:30
Kiloshehe17:30
Kiloselacheche  ^^17:31
Kilosty superfly  17:31
magespawnlearning html Kilos?17:32
Kilosnono i tried that before. im just trying to get the africa sight to show when someone googles ubuntu africa17:33
magespawnshow where?17:35
Kilosshow in google searches17:35
magespawnyou will need more than the link for that17:36
Kilosdo you know what?17:36
Kiloscan i hand it to you?17:36
Kilosi spent half the day reading about mapping and stuff17:37
Kilosmagespawn  ^^17:38
Kilossjoe 17:38
magespawnare you just trying to get it to show up in the searches?17:38
Kilosyes17:39
Kilosfrom there peeps can decide, but if it doesnt show, how will anyone ever find it17:39
magespawnthat takes time, people linking to it, and for google to recognise it17:39
magespawni am sure superfly will have done what he can already17:40
Kilosthats why i wanted to map it17:40
magespawni am not sure what you mean with that, map the site?17:40
Kiloswiat17:40
Kiloswait too17:40
magespawnindeed17:40
Kilossomething here https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/dashboard?pli=117:42
Kilosbut all i can map it too is my site, i see i made one in google in 201017:43
Kilosbut i dont think i made it17:43
Kiloshaha17:44
Kiloshttps://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/17:44
Kiloswhy would i call me uncle kilos17:44
Kilosi looked here too http://www.google.com/support/enterprise/static/gsa/docs/admin/70/gsa_doc_set/quick_start/quick_start_crawl.html17:49
magespaw1back again17:52
Kiloswb17:52
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magespawnKilos: so you are trying to use google's webmaster tools for the ubuntu africa website?18:13
Kilosyeah18:13
Kilosi was looking for stuff and came across that18:14
magespawndo you have a webmaster account?18:14
Kilosoh my18:14
Kilosisnt it just a google sign in thing18:15
magespawni think so, but it has been a long time since i used it18:15
Kilosya looks like im in there because it has a button add a site18:16
Kilosbut shows my blog and the google site someone made for me18:17
Kilosi see nowhere to add another one18:17
Kilosoh no it did then it wants to send some code to the site18:17
Kilosthen i see this http://is.gd/TSF1eq18:19
magespawnyes you have to able to add the google tracking code18:20
Kilosi think only fly can do that18:20
Kilosits his site even though he calls it my site18:21
Kilosall i did was watch them build it, everything i tried broke something18:22
magespawnwebmaster shows the stats for the site that the code is on18:22
Kiloshttps://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/3517918:25
Kilosonly fly can do that18:25
magespawnwebmaster helps you get more traffic to your site by showing you where you need to marget it, i think18:26
magespawni don't think it actually brings you traffic18:26
magespawni have to go up to my room now, i might lose connection again18:26
Kilosall i want is it must show when peeps google ubuntu africa18:26
Kilosok18:26
Kilosty18:26
inetproguten abend18:28
Kilosabend her inetpro  18:28
Kilosha that guy that was in port shepstone is esquire18:30
inetprouh18:33
Kilosmy blog doesnt lie18:33
inetprowho cares about esquire? oops... did I say that?18:33
Kilosno man dodo18:34
inetproKilos: who is he and why is he not here?18:34
Kilossomeone asked here if there were any contacts in sheppy and i couldnt remember who18:34
inetprooh18:34
inetprowb magespawn18:34
magespawnty18:35
Kilosi have no idea where he disappeared to18:35
magespawnwalking around with a laptop is not too good for connection18:35
Kiloslol18:35
inetpromagespawn: try driving with it, that's even worse18:35
magespawnits okay if you stay connected to one tower18:36
inetprotrue18:36
inetproif you stay within magespawn18:37
Kilosdont drive and play with cellphones or laptops18:37
inetprooops... if you stay within line of sight18:37
magespawni have to go, my battery is going flat18:39
magespawnbbl, in a while18:39
Kilosok18:40
magespawnback19:14
Kiloswb magespawn  19:15
magespawnso where were we?19:18
Kiloseish19:21
Kilosthats too hard to understand magespawn  19:24
Kilosbetter we forget it19:24
inetprowhere were you?19:28
magespawnmoving from admin office to hotel room via the bar19:28
inetpromagespawn: no, I think Kilos was still on the SEO mode :-)19:29
* inetpro ducks19:29
Kiloslol19:29
Kilosim just gonna be a greeter bot and drinks lots of cyber coffee19:30
KilosMaaz  coffee on19:30
* Maaz flips the salt-timer19:30
inetproai!19:30
magespawnhmm19:30
magespawndid my first iptables command today for a dd-wrt touter19:31
magespawnrouter19:31
inetpromagespawn: sounds like fun19:31
magespawnbasically to block facebook19:32
inetproeish!19:32
inetprowhy?19:32
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:34
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!19:34
KilosMaaz  ty19:34
MaazYou are welcome Kilos19:34
magespawngood night Kilos 19:34
magespawninetpro: people at work spending too much time on facebook and not working19:35
inetproblocking it only hides the real problem19:35
magespawnas always, bandaid, rather than solving the problem19:38
inetpro10 reasons NOT to block social networking at work http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-reasons-not-to-block-social-networking-at-work/19:38
inetprobut it's a tough problem to manage, I know19:39
inetpros/problem/challenge/19:39
inetproespecially in this country of ours with our costly bandwidth19:40
magespawnyou know, i am not actually sure the reason for the block/ban, the peopledo not use that much data anyway19:48
inetprooh wow. that is odd19:57
inetpropoor people19:57
inetprothey must be thinking the world is still flat19:58
magespawnhmm, not too sure, i am a mushroom19:59
inetpro:-)19:59
Tonberry_but how are they supposed to work if they spend all day on facebook? /s19:59
magespawni would argue that they need to police themselves and be responsible for their own work20:04
magespawnif they fail in those duties, then you take them up on that rather20:04
inetpromaybe they'll find out now that they don't need facebook if they want to waste a bit of time20:04
Tonberry_It was meant as sarcasm20:04
magespawnsorry, missed that20:04
magespawnnext it will be youtube, then what ever else people will find20:05
superflybuzzfeed -_-20:05
magespawnbut a good exercise for me to get started on iptables20:07
inetpromagespawn: how did you block it if I may ask?20:07
inetprobecause there are so many ways to bypass things if you know how20:08
Tonberry_And then they will facebook on their phones.20:09
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magespawni told iptables to drop all requests going from the local network to facebooks ip address20:19
Tonberryall of them?20:26
inetproai!20:27
magespawni was fishing for a way to make it work, the gui was not doing a thing, so i tried it on just one 20:28
magespawninetpro: ai?20:28
inetpromagespawn: if only it was that easy20:29
inetprono way that facebook runs on one IP address, even if it looks like it for a moment20:29
Tonberrythey have a lot20:29
Tonberryhttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/11164672/list-of-ip-space-used-by-facebook20:30
magespawnindeed, so i will have to find another way to do it, do not really wan to add all of them20:31
magespawncan you do it by url?20:31
Tonberrythe second answer looks like it should be able to keep up with the ips changing if run every now and then20:31
Tonberryyou could break dns lookups for facebook domains20:32
Tonberryand hope nobody uses another dns server20:32
magespawnor run something like opendns or some sort of firewall20:34
Tonberrywow thats a lot of IP addresses20:35
inetproTonberry: that's an understatement20:35
inetprowould be fun to see the impact of blocking it at JINX :-)20:40
magespawnmy bed is calling, good night all20:44
inetprogood night magespawn20:44
kulelu88Does anyone use an Android tablet here?20:57
melodieI don't, but what about you ask your question?21:00
melodiehi kulelu88 :)21:00
kulelu88Hey melodie . I am trying to find out if some of the mid-priced android tablets have IR-blasters21:01
melodiecan you explain the word "IR-blasters" to me?21:02
kulelu88basically, infra-red21:04
kulelu88or infrared21:04
kulelu88phones have them, seeing if tablets do as well21:04
Tonberryyou want to control a tv or do something else?21:05
kulelu88yes Tonberry , correct21:05
superflyinetpro: http://libreboard.com/21:07
Tonberrymy tablet/phablet thing has one but I have never seen it on any other android devices21:07
Tonberrynot that I have really been looking21:07
superflyI have one on my G2, but I haven't seen one on a tablet to be honest 21:07
kulelu88Tonberry: what phablet do you have?21:08
Tonberryhttp://www.takealot.com/hisense-infinity-maxe-x1/PLID3276939921:08
kulelu88shit, that's the expensive 121:09
Tonberryyeah, not really midrange anymore21:09
kulelu88Tonberry: that pretty girl motivated you to buy it ehh21:10
inetprosuperfly: interesting21:10
Tonberryno, more the hope of decent performance21:11
kulelu88I'm looking for something in the 2-3grand range21:12
kulelu88superfly: That solution was exactly what the guy was looking for :D 21:16
inetprokulelu88: no21:17
kulelu88inetpro: ?21:17
inetprokulelu88: ah, you talking about something else?21:18
kulelu88yeah21:18
* inetpro thought for a moment you were referring to http://libreboard.com/21:18
inetprosorry :-)21:19
kulelu88don't stress mate21:19
inetproanyway, I'm off 21:20
inetproMaaz: watch them21:20
Maazoh inetpro I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!21:20
inetprogood night21:20
superflykulelu88: that's why I'm here! 21:21
kulelu88superfly: If I can solve problems like that with code, can I become a software developer?21:22
superflyYep21:22
kulelu88Why do I still feel it is harder than that?21:22
superflykulelu88: we look for two things in a software developer: smart, and gets things done. 21:23
kulelu88would you hire me? =D =D21:23
kulelu88hypothetically :D21:23
superflyMy boss has a very good interviewing process to get rid of those who don't seem to exhibit those two 21:25
kulelu88Google-fu questions?21:25
superflykulelu88: from what I know of you, possibly. I'd ask you to come in for an interview 21:25
kulelu88ehh I did try in the past to find a startup gig in CPT, but nobody wanted me back then :(21:26
melodiekulelu88 please, the words "gig" and CPT refer to what?21:29
superflykulelu88: well, there's nothing stopping you trying. Go full on the form on our site 21:29
superfly*fill21:29
superflymelodie: CPT is Cape Town 21:29
kulelu88I'm committed currently superfly and I don't think I'm ready to jump ship soon21:30
kulelu88gig = job 21:30
melodieok21:30
kulelu88melodie: bring your french friends to ubuntu-za. We can cross-pollinate and support ubuntu-fr also21:30
melodiekulelu88 I gladly invite you guys to #linuxvillage where both languages are encouraged. (not that there are many people talking right now, but you are still welcome)21:31
melodieI don't do ubuntu-fr, they are too verbose21:32
melodieand too strict too21:32
melodieI go very rarely21:32
superflyNight folks! 21:32
melodiegn superfly 21:33
kulelu88do you like us more? melodie :D21:33
kulelu88gn21:33
melodieon ubuntu-fr there are roughly two kinds of guys, the ones that are the maintainers and are in charge of order, and the ones that come for help and are pretty asking anything in any manner (nice, not nice, fast, not waiting for answers) and there is too much to read, too many people talking at the same time. 21:35
melodieeach time I was there to ask for a solution to a problem I found myself helping others and not having had one clue about my own issue21:35
melodieonce, ok, twice, ok, then it becomes kind of frustrating when the scheme repeats many times21:36
melodienot that I don't like helping people21:36
melodieI also want to meet with people who express different things21:36
kulelu88melodie: for genuine problems, you must go ask in #ubuntu21:37
melodieI need to check the word "genuine", but #ubuntu would be even worse :D21:37
melodieauthentic21:38
melodieok21:38
melodiefortunately I know many more channels21:38
melodiewith people having specific knowledge who can be found there21:38
melodiekulelu88 so do you have the clues you were looking for regarding this tablet connection mode?21:39
melodiethis one is tooo fun! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9wHzt6gBgI21:42
kulelu88I am going to phone the companies tomorrow melodie 21:43
melodiekulelu88 oh, ok.21:43
melodiejust a question, why have a computer, a tablet, a smartphone, when they could all be inside one and only machine?21:44
melodie(hypothetically as it's not quite the case yet)21:44
kulelu88The tablet and computer serve different purposes melodie . that is why I want a cheap tablet21:44
melodiesome want cheap computers21:45
melodiewhat do you intend to use a tablet for?21:45
kulelu88browsing, games and testing apps21:49
melodiedo you program for android os ?21:52
melodieit seems like the big thing, hundreds of api and heard that 5000 more new ones coming next21:53
kulelu88no, but I will soon :)22:02
melodieoh great! are you going to learn by yourself?22:10

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