[05:01] <Kilos> morning all
[05:41] <Jacques_Stry> Morning
[05:41] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Stry  
[05:41] <Pathfinder> Jacques_Stry: Morning
[05:42] <Kilos> hi Pathfinder  barrydk  
[05:42] <barrydk> More Kilos and others
[06:12] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:12] <Kilos> hi mazal  ThatGraemeGuy  
[06:12]  * Jacques_Stry waves
[06:13]  * ThatGraemeGuy drowns in the wave
[06:13] <mazal> Sjoe this weekend was short :P
[06:13] <Kilos> lol
[06:13] <mazal> I need it over
[06:14] <Kilos> wait 5 days and start again
[06:14] <mazal> That's along wait
[06:17] <Kilos> rest more next weekend
[07:26] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:27] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[07:39] <pieter2627> hi all
[07:39] <Kilos> hi pieter2627  
[07:40] <Kilos> Pathfinder  ask you question again, maybe today someone has an answer for you
 [13:45:12] is there a php similar robust server like unicorn for ruby?
[08:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> that question?
[08:15] <Kilos> ya that was it ThatGraemeGuy  
[08:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> he's sleeping
[08:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> or dead
[08:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> hopefully sleeping
[08:16] <Kilos> must be at work
 <Pathfinder> [13:45:12] is there a php similar robust server like unicorn for ruby? → Apache OR nginx
[08:16] <elacheche> o/
[08:21] <Kilos> hmm...
[08:52] <Pathfinder> elacheche: I was thinking of a specific app server then I just use  NGINX as a reverse proxy
[08:52] <Pathfinder> @all: I was swamped at work :(
[09:00] <Pathfinder> ....Nginx only works well when serving static php pages..so you have to pair it with an app server or something like php5-fpm which I hate
[09:11] <elacheche> Why don't use Apache Pathfinder 
[09:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> FPM is it afaik
[09:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> there's a web server of sorts but its not suited to production
[09:31] <TinuvaMac> whats wrong with php-fpm?
[09:31] <Kilos> haha
[09:32] <Kilos> ask the fly
[09:36] <TinuvaMac> sometimes i dont understand why people dont like perfectly good software
[09:41] <elacheche> +1 TinuvaMac :) ThatGraemeGuy wanna explain more your opinion?
[09:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> what should I explain?
[09:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> *confused*
[09:42] <TinuvaMac> no its Pathfinder that needs to explain
[09:43] <elacheche> Oups.. Sorry ThatGraemeGuy ;o
[09:43] <elacheche> :p
[09:55] <jrgns> why is fpm not suited to production?
[09:55] <jrgns> oh, and hello all :)
[09:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> that isn't what i said
[09:55] <Kilos> hi jrgns  
[09:57] <jrgns> ah, soz, reread that. FPM is a good option, yes
[10:08] <Kilos> http://python.p2pu.org/
[10:08] <Kilos> someone wanted to learn python
[10:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> almost a year of minetesting and I finally got a nyancat and 3 rainbow blocks
[10:11] <Kilos> lol
[11:13] <magespawn> good afternoon
[11:32] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[11:37] <mazal> Oi , my inet very unstable today :(
[11:37] <Pathfinder> I wanna check something else that php-fpm out just for adventure
[11:38] <Pathfinder> elacheche: I don't wanna use Apache coz we already have other applications running that utilise nginx and we haven't found a reason to replace it yet..I find it easier to work with than apache plus its lightweight and I am running on a kinda small vm
[11:42] <Mopkop> Hello everyone!
[11:43] <Kilos> hi Mopkop  
[11:51] <mazal> Anybody else on Afrihost having issues today ?
[11:55] <Mopkop> mazal: Nope, not here. At least I haven't encountered any yet...
[11:55] <mazal> I keep lossing connection and it's ips disconnection everytime
[11:55] <mazal> loosing* isp*
[11:55] <mazal> If the router can be belived anyway
[12:00] <Kilos> hmm... everything so ingewikkeld
[12:03] <Mopkop> You can check your usage history on their client-zone According to mine I've been having a continuous conncection since 8 am this morning. So I am not experiencing the same problem.
[12:03] <Mopkop> Oops.
[12:04] <Mopkop> Kilos: How do I get Maaz to tell him that when he returns?
[12:04] <Kilos> just say maaz tell mazal message
[12:05] <Mopkop> Thank you :)
[12:05] <Kilos> yw
[12:06] <Mopkop> Maaz tell mazal: You can check your usage history on their client-zone. According to mine I've been having a continuous connection since 8 am this morning. So I am not experiencing the same problem.
[12:06] <Maaz> Mopkop: I don't know who mazal: is. Say 'mazal: on freenode' and I'll take your word that mazal: exists
[12:06] <Kilos> lol
[12:06] <Mopkop> aai...
[12:06] <Mopkop> Maaz tell mazal on freenode You can check your usage history on their client-zone. According to mine I've been having a continuous connection since 8 am this morning. So I am not experiencing the same problem
[12:06] <Maaz> Mopkop: Okay, I'll tell mazal on freenode
[12:06] <Kilos> say mazal on freenode
[12:06] <Kilos> cool
[12:07] <Kilos> sometimes he recognises peeps
[12:07] <Mopkop> Welcome back Pathfinder!
[12:07] <Pathfinder> Mopkop: Bad connection :(
[12:08] <Mopkop> Why is everyone having connection problems today?
[12:08] <Kilos> not me
[12:09] <Pathfinder> Mopkop: Was using some fucked up ISP before
[12:12] <Kilos> mazal  say maaz hi
[12:12] <Kilos> oh you got it in pm?
[12:55] <magespawn> i stay online but very slow browsing
[13:22] <stickyboy> https://mjanja.ch/2015/05/brck-in-violation-of-the-gpl
[13:23] <stickyboy> Published my analysis of BRCK (Kenyan company) violation of the GPL.
[13:23] <stickyboy> Get it while it's hot, before the sue me for slander.
[13:23] <stickyboy> Or some other unrelated legal technicality.
[13:24] <Mopkop> magespawn: I get that from time-to-time. So I think it might be Afrihost. This does not seem to happen to everyone all the time. I find some sites are still fast. Try bing.com, and see if it is faster.
[13:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> magespawn: do you have another ISP account you can test with? determine if its Afrihost or exchange congestion
[13:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> web africa will give you a 1GB free account which is good for that kind of testing
[13:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> also is it capped or uncapped, the afrihost account?
[13:35] <Mopkop> stickyboy: I think it is very important for embedded-systems to be accompanied with source-code. If you only have the binaries what is to stop the makers from including spyware or some other malware? There would be no way of noticing that. GPL was set up to prevent this. So I agree with you that these companies or communities should be sure to comply to every technicality of GPL.
[13:37] <MaNI> if you have the source code how do you know the binaries were actually compiled using that code :)
[13:37] <MaNI> would have to mandate something like gitian along with the source code for it to make a difference there
[13:41] <Mopkop> MaNI: You can compile it yourself and compare. Assuming you have the same system, with the same compiler and linker, you should get the same binaries bit-for-bit. Of course they can just appeal to different systems as the reason for the difference in binaries, but with the source, at least you can compile it yourself and be sure there are no spyware. But I guess it all comes down to trust.
[13:42] <MaNI> binaries can differ on the exact same machine two compiles in a row just because of time
[13:43] <Mopkop> Oh, I didn't know that :P
[13:47] <MaNI> you'd have to reproduce the exact same compiler flags, cpu and dependencies at a minimum (not an easy feat), not saying it can't be done but it's is not something that any random person can just go and do - something like gitian is an attempt at solving this problem
[13:47] <MaNI> https://gitian.org/
[13:49] <stickyboy> Mopkop: Thanks for the support.
[13:50] <magespawn> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[13:50] <magespawn> it is capped
[13:51] <magespawn> i have tested another account,  think it is the adsl itself at the moment
[14:00] <magespawn> home time later all
[14:16] <Kilos> Rynomster  wb
[14:16] <Kilos> whats with all the nicks
[14:26] <Kilos> Mopkop  what are you doing?
[14:27] <Mopkop> Playing games. Nothing useful to do today...
[14:27] <Kilos> lol here is something useful to do
[14:28] <Kilos> im trying to make google see/index our africa site quicker but dont understand half the stuff
[14:28] <Mopkop> Ok I'll help. It's called SEO.
[14:29] <Kilos> http://is.gd/nFK10c
[14:29] <Mopkop> Let's see, there are a few things only the Fly can do...
[14:29] <Kilos> oh you know, ive been rtfs till im blind
[14:30] <Kilos> is this what fly must do https://www.xml-sitemaps.com
[14:30] <Kilos> mapping
[14:30] <Kilos> i dont know if i can map it to my account
[14:31] <Mopkop> You see you need to create a webmasters account. To do this you need to confirm you are the owner by pasting some code on to the site, which only Fly can do. Nikola automatically creates a sitemap I believe.
[14:31] <Mopkop> I think there are some other things we can do to get our site on their.
[14:32] <Mopkop> Google only needs to find one website which links to our site to find it. So is the site linked on Wiki?
[14:36] <Kilos> i have put it in my wiki oage i think
[14:36] <Kilos> page
[14:36] <Mopkop> In addition. Once we are up, everyone should type in "Ubuntu Africa" in google, scroll down till they find the site and click on it. This will help get it on top.
[14:36] <Mopkop> Google analytics can help too.
[14:37] <Mopkop> But Fly will have to do that too.
[14:37] <Kilos> oh my
[14:40] <Rynomster> hey Kilos, sorz been busy busy.. making android stuffs xD
[14:40] <Kilos> np Rynomster  just say hi now and again
[14:40] <Rynomster> hehe :) how are you?
[14:40] <Mopkop> I found ubuntu-info at location 200 and something. So we are up, we just need some more SEO.
[14:41] <Kilos> im good ty and you?
[14:41] <Mopkop> This sometimes take months.
[14:41] <Kilos> Mopkop  SEO
[14:41] <Kilos> ?
[14:41] <Rynomster> im good thanks :) just need to like work more and play less
[14:41] <Rynomster> Search Engine Optimisation
[14:41] <Kilos> lol
[14:42] <Mopkop> Search Engine Optimization. It's to get your site higher on Google.
[14:42] <Kilos> ya we need to do that thing
[14:42] <Kilos> even ubuntu-za is on the second page of google stuff
[14:44] <Mopkop> Only if you Google Ubuntu Africa. It's on the first page if you Google Ubuntu South Africa.
[14:44] <Kilos> normal peeps wont think of ubuntu-info
[14:45] <Mopkop> No, they will type Ubuntu Africa. But we need to go and click on ubuntu-africa.info so Google can put it up higher. It will also help if we link the Africa site from our ZA site.
[14:46] <Kilos> Mopkop  how does one link it to the wiki
[14:46] <Mopkop> Hmm, let's see. Where is the wiki page again?
[14:47] <Kilos> i have a link to it here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos
[14:47] <Kilos> under contributions
[14:48] <Mopkop> It's already linked on that page.
[14:48] <Mopkop> It seems like you just copy-paste the address. 
[14:48] <Kilos> oh
[14:49] <Kilos> i want to try get bing and yahoo to see it as well
[14:49] <Mopkop> Oh that reminds me. I was supposed to update my wiki...
[14:49] <Kilos> i have no idea how people are actually finding it at the momen
[14:49] <Kilos> t
[14:51] <Mopkop> Bing and yahoo works with the same principle. You need to be Superfly and then you can get a webmaster account from each search engine. But all modern search engine finds sites by "crawling" through other sites and following all the links.
[14:51] <Mopkop> Are there people who have responded on the site?
[14:52] <Kilos> yes quite a few
[14:52] <Mopkop> Hmm. Maybe we should ask them how they found us.
[14:53] <Kilos> one guy from germany said he went through everything about ubuntu and africa and found it
[14:53] <Kilos> but i cant
[14:53] <Kilos> he comes online nearly every day Benno-007 or something
[14:55] <Mopkop> Hmm, let's see. Maybe he got it on the loco-list on wiki.
[14:55] <Mopkop> That's where I found this channel.
[14:55] <Kilos> ah
[14:56] <Mopkop> Oh wait, we're not listed...
[14:56] <Mopkop> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/
[14:56] <Kilos> south africa ubuntu teams
[14:56] <Mopkop> We should ask them to list the Africa team.
[14:56] <Kilos> only 3 are verified
[14:57] <Kilos> oh you mean the africa site
[14:57] <Kilos> team
[14:57] <Kilos> its not a loco, thats the prob
[14:58] <Kilos> its the whole continent
[14:58] <Mopkop> But we function as a Loco, or do I have that wrong?
[14:58] <Kilos> i had long discussions trying to make it a super loco or something similar but they didnt want to bite
[14:59] <Kilos> za does but the africa irc channel and site dont actually
[15:00] <Mopkop> Oh, that's too bad. Because many countries only have a few active members. It would be nice if we can throw everyone together. 
[15:02] <Mopkop> We should at least get listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[15:02] <Kilos> lemme go see
[15:03] <Kilos> write a script that will keep google searching and finding ubuntu africa till its on top
[15:04] <Mopkop> Lol, no you cannot do that. Google has safe-gaurds, otherwise everyone would do that. They actually only count one click per person per day, or something like that.
[15:04] <Kilos> eish
[15:05] <Mopkop> Anyway, I need to prepare for Church, We have a Pentecostal series this week, and I have to do the technical things like projector. See you later DV.
[15:05] <Kilos> ok ty
[15:13] <Kilos> haha who made this https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/
[16:28] <arnaudmez> hi Kilos
[16:29] <Kilos> hi arnaudmez  
[16:29] <Kilos> what are you breaking
[16:29] <arnaudmez> nothing 
[16:29] <arnaudmez> busy building 
[16:29] <Kilos> yay
[16:29] <Kilos> good
[16:30] <arnaudmez> tell me please how much cost an Ubuntu training and how long does it take (on training center i mean)
[16:31] <Kilos> oh my
[16:33] <Kilos> arnaudmez  Ubuntu or Linux training?
[16:34] <arnaudmez> Ubuntu first
[16:34] <arnaudmez> Linux after
[16:34] <Kilos> ubuntu you just install and get help here lol
[16:35] <Kilos> you just need to know how to open a terminal and use commands you are advised to use and save them
[16:36] <Kilos> i dont know if there is actual ubuntu training
[16:38] <Kilos> hi SilverCode  
[17:28] <superfly> Kilos: #1 way to get your site to the top of the page: make links to it from other sites <a href="http://ubuntu-africa.info/" title="Ubuntu Africa">Ubuntu Africa</a>
[17:29] <Kilos> superfly  hi, do i use that whole thing?
[17:29] <Kilos> <a href="http://ubuntu-africa.info/" title="Ubuntu Africa">Ubuntu Africa</a>
[17:29] <magespawn> good evening
[17:30] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[17:30] <superfly> Kilos: that's the link.
[17:30] <superfly> as in, the HTML for the link
[17:30] <Kilos> ai!
[17:30] <Kilos> inetpro  heres a nice easy job for you
[17:30] <Kilos> hehe
[17:31] <Kilos> elacheche  ^^
[17:31] <Kilos> ty superfly  
[17:32] <magespawn> learning html Kilos?
[17:33] <Kilos> nono i tried that before. im just trying to get the africa sight to show when someone googles ubuntu africa
[17:35] <magespawn> show where?
[17:35] <Kilos> show in google searches
[17:36] <magespawn> you will need more than the link for that
[17:36] <Kilos> do you know what?
[17:36] <Kilos> can i hand it to you?
[17:37] <Kilos> i spent half the day reading about mapping and stuff
[17:38] <Kilos> magespawn  ^^
[17:38] <Kilos> sjoe 
[17:38] <magespawn> are you just trying to get it to show up in the searches?
[17:39] <Kilos> yes
[17:39] <Kilos> from there peeps can decide, but if it doesnt show, how will anyone ever find it
[17:39] <magespawn> that takes time, people linking to it, and for google to recognise it
[17:40] <magespawn> i am sure superfly will have done what he can already
[17:40] <Kilos> thats why i wanted to map it
[17:40] <magespawn> i am not sure what you mean with that, map the site?
[17:40] <Kilos> wiat
[17:40] <Kilos> wait too
[17:40] <magespawn> indeed
[17:42] <Kilos> something here https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/dashboard?pli=1
[17:43] <Kilos> but all i can map it too is my site, i see i made one in google in 2010
[17:43] <Kilos> but i dont think i made it
[17:44] <Kilos> haha
[17:44] <Kilos> https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/
[17:44] <Kilos> why would i call me uncle kilos
[17:49] <Kilos> i looked here too http://www.google.com/support/enterprise/static/gsa/docs/admin/70/gsa_doc_set/quick_start/quick_start_crawl.html
[17:52] <magespaw1> back again
[17:52] <Kilos> wb
[18:13] <magespawn> Kilos: so you are trying to use google's webmaster tools for the ubuntu africa website?
[18:13] <Kilos> yeah
[18:14] <Kilos> i was looking for stuff and came across that
[18:14] <magespawn> do you have a webmaster account?
[18:14] <Kilos> oh my
[18:15] <Kilos> isnt it just a google sign in thing
[18:15] <magespawn> i think so, but it has been a long time since i used it
[18:16] <Kilos> ya looks like im in there because it has a button add a site
[18:17] <Kilos> but shows my blog and the google site someone made for me
[18:17] <Kilos> i see nowhere to add another one
[18:17] <Kilos> oh no it did then it wants to send some code to the site
[18:19] <Kilos> then i see this http://is.gd/TSF1eq
[18:20] <magespawn> yes you have to able to add the google tracking code
[18:20] <Kilos> i think only fly can do that
[18:21] <Kilos> its his site even though he calls it my site
[18:22] <Kilos> all i did was watch them build it, everything i tried broke something
[18:22] <magespawn> webmaster shows the stats for the site that the code is on
[18:25] <Kilos> https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/35179
[18:25] <Kilos> only fly can do that
[18:26] <magespawn> webmaster helps you get more traffic to your site by showing you where you need to marget it, i think
[18:26] <magespawn> i don't think it actually brings you traffic
[18:26] <magespawn> i have to go up to my room now, i might lose connection again
[18:26] <Kilos> all i want is it must show when peeps google ubuntu africa
[18:26] <Kilos> ok
[18:26] <Kilos> ty
[18:28] <inetpro> guten abend
[18:28] <Kilos> abend her inetpro  
[18:30] <Kilos> ha that guy that was in port shepstone is esquire
[18:33] <inetpro> uh
[18:33] <Kilos> my blog doesnt lie
[18:33] <inetpro> who cares about esquire? oops... did I say that?
[18:34] <Kilos> no man dodo
[18:34] <inetpro> Kilos: who is he and why is he not here?
[18:34] <Kilos> someone asked here if there were any contacts in sheppy and i couldnt remember who
[18:34] <inetpro> oh
[18:34] <inetpro> wb magespawn
[18:35] <magespawn> ty
[18:35] <Kilos> i have no idea where he disappeared to
[18:35] <magespawn> walking around with a laptop is not too good for connection
[18:35] <Kilos> lol
[18:35] <inetpro> magespawn: try driving with it, that's even worse
[18:36] <magespawn> its okay if you stay connected to one tower
[18:36] <inetpro> true
[18:37] <inetpro> if you stay within magespawn
[18:37] <Kilos> dont drive and play with cellphones or laptops
[18:37] <inetpro> oops... if you stay within line of sight
[18:39] <magespawn> i have to go, my battery is going flat
[18:39] <magespawn> bbl, in a while
[18:40] <Kilos> ok
[19:14] <magespawn> back
[19:15] <Kilos> wb magespawn  
[19:18] <magespawn> so where were we?
[19:21] <Kilos> eish
[19:24] <Kilos> thats too hard to understand magespawn  
[19:24] <Kilos> better we forget it
[19:28] <inetpro> where were you?
[19:28] <magespawn> moving from admin office to hotel room via the bar
[19:29] <inetpro> magespawn: no, I think Kilos was still on the SEO mode :-)
[19:29]  * inetpro ducks
[19:29] <Kilos> lol
[19:30] <Kilos> im just gonna be a greeter bot and drinks lots of cyber coffee
[19:30] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[19:30]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[19:30] <inetpro> ai!
[19:30] <magespawn> hmm
[19:31] <magespawn> did my first iptables command today for a dd-wrt touter
[19:31] <magespawn> router
[19:31] <inetpro> magespawn: sounds like fun
[19:32] <magespawn> basically to block facebook
[19:32] <inetpro> eish!
[19:32] <inetpro> why?
[19:34] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:34] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[19:34] <Kilos> Maaz  ty
[19:34] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[19:34] <magespawn> good night Kilos 
[19:35] <magespawn> inetpro: people at work spending too much time on facebook and not working
[19:35] <inetpro> blocking it only hides the real problem
[19:38] <magespawn> as always, bandaid, rather than solving the problem
[19:38] <inetpro> 10 reasons NOT to block social networking at work http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-reasons-not-to-block-social-networking-at-work/
[19:39] <inetpro> but it's a tough problem to manage, I know
[19:39] <inetpro> s/problem/challenge/
[19:40] <inetpro> especially in this country of ours with our costly bandwidth
[19:48] <magespawn> you know, i am not actually sure the reason for the block/ban, the peopledo not use that much data anyway
[19:57] <inetpro> oh wow. that is odd
[19:57] <inetpro> poor people
[19:58] <inetpro> they must be thinking the world is still flat
[19:59] <magespawn> hmm, not too sure, i am a mushroom
[19:59] <inetpro> :-)
[19:59] <Tonberry_> but how are they supposed to work if they spend all day on facebook? /s
[20:04] <magespawn> i would argue that they need to police themselves and be responsible for their own work
[20:04] <magespawn> if they fail in those duties, then you take them up on that rather
[20:04] <inetpro> maybe they'll find out now that they don't need facebook if they want to waste a bit of time
[20:04] <Tonberry_> It was meant as sarcasm
[20:04] <magespawn> sorry, missed that
[20:05] <magespawn> next it will be youtube, then what ever else people will find
[20:05] <superfly> buzzfeed -_-
[20:07] <magespawn> but a good exercise for me to get started on iptables
[20:07] <inetpro> magespawn: how did you block it if I may ask?
[20:08] <inetpro> because there are so many ways to bypass things if you know how
[20:09] <Tonberry_> And then they will facebook on their phones.
[20:19] <magespawn> i told iptables to drop all requests going from the local network to facebooks ip address
[20:26] <Tonberry> all of them?
[20:27] <inetpro> ai!
[20:28] <magespawn> i was fishing for a way to make it work, the gui was not doing a thing, so i tried it on just one 
[20:28] <magespawn> inetpro: ai?
[20:29] <inetpro> magespawn: if only it was that easy
[20:29] <inetpro> no way that facebook runs on one IP address, even if it looks like it for a moment
[20:29] <Tonberry> they have a lot
[20:30] <Tonberry> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11164672/list-of-ip-space-used-by-facebook
[20:31] <magespawn> indeed, so i will have to find another way to do it, do not really wan to add all of them
[20:31] <magespawn> can you do it by url?
[20:31] <Tonberry> the second answer looks like it should be able to keep up with the ips changing if run every now and then
[20:32] <Tonberry> you could break dns lookups for facebook domains
[20:32] <Tonberry> and hope nobody uses another dns server
[20:34] <magespawn> or run something like opendns or some sort of firewall
[20:35] <Tonberry> wow thats a lot of IP addresses
[20:35] <inetpro> Tonberry: that's an understatement
[20:40] <inetpro> would be fun to see the impact of blocking it at JINX :-)
[20:44] <magespawn> my bed is calling, good night all
[20:44] <inetpro> good night magespawn
[20:57] <kulelu88> Does anyone use an Android tablet here?
[21:00] <melodie> I don't, but what about you ask your question?
[21:00] <melodie> hi kulelu88 :)
[21:01] <kulelu88> Hey melodie . I am trying to find out if some of the mid-priced android tablets have IR-blasters
[21:02] <melodie> can you explain the word "IR-blasters" to me?
[21:04] <kulelu88> basically, infra-red
[21:04] <kulelu88> or infrared
[21:04] <kulelu88> phones have them, seeing if tablets do as well
[21:05] <Tonberry> you want to control a tv or do something else?
[21:05] <kulelu88> yes Tonberry , correct
[21:07] <superfly> inetpro: http://libreboard.com/
[21:07] <Tonberry> my tablet/phablet thing has one but I have never seen it on any other android devices
[21:07] <Tonberry> not that I have really been looking
[21:07] <superfly> I have one on my G2, but I haven't seen one on a tablet to be honest 
[21:08] <kulelu88> Tonberry: what phablet do you have?
[21:08] <Tonberry> http://www.takealot.com/hisense-infinity-maxe-x1/PLID32769399
[21:09] <kulelu88> shit, that's the expensive 1
[21:09] <Tonberry> yeah, not really midrange anymore
[21:10] <kulelu88> Tonberry: that pretty girl motivated you to buy it ehh
[21:10] <inetpro> superfly: interesting
[21:11] <Tonberry> no, more the hope of decent performance
[21:12] <kulelu88> I'm looking for something in the 2-3grand range
[21:16] <kulelu88> superfly: That solution was exactly what the guy was looking for :D 
[21:17] <inetpro> kulelu88: no
[21:17] <kulelu88> inetpro: ?
[21:18] <inetpro> kulelu88: ah, you talking about something else?
[21:18] <kulelu88> yeah
[21:18]  * inetpro thought for a moment you were referring to http://libreboard.com/
[21:19] <inetpro> sorry :-)
[21:19] <kulelu88> don't stress mate
[21:20] <inetpro> anyway, I'm off 
[21:20] <inetpro> Maaz: watch them
[21:20] <Maaz> oh inetpro I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!
[21:20] <inetpro> good night
[21:21] <superfly> kulelu88: that's why I'm here! 
[21:22] <kulelu88> superfly: If I can solve problems like that with code, can I become a software developer?
[21:22] <superfly> Yep
[21:22] <kulelu88> Why do I still feel it is harder than that?
[21:23] <superfly> kulelu88: we look for two things in a software developer: smart, and gets things done. 
[21:23] <kulelu88> would you hire me? =D =D
[21:23] <kulelu88> hypothetically :D
[21:25] <superfly> My boss has a very good interviewing process to get rid of those who don't seem to exhibit those two 
[21:25] <kulelu88> Google-fu questions?
[21:25] <superfly> kulelu88: from what I know of you, possibly. I'd ask you to come in for an interview 
[21:26] <kulelu88> ehh I did try in the past to find a startup gig in CPT, but nobody wanted me back then :(
[21:29] <melodie> kulelu88 please, the words "gig" and CPT refer to what?
[21:29] <superfly> kulelu88: well, there's nothing stopping you trying. Go full on the form on our site 
[21:29] <superfly> *fill
[21:29] <superfly> melodie: CPT is Cape Town 
[21:30] <kulelu88> I'm committed currently superfly and I don't think I'm ready to jump ship soon
[21:30] <kulelu88> gig = job 
[21:30] <melodie> ok
[21:30] <kulelu88> melodie: bring your french friends to ubuntu-za. We can cross-pollinate and support ubuntu-fr also
[21:31] <melodie> kulelu88 I gladly invite you guys to #linuxvillage where both languages are encouraged. (not that there are many people talking right now, but you are still welcome)
[21:32] <melodie> I don't do ubuntu-fr, they are too verbose
[21:32] <melodie> and too strict too
[21:32] <melodie> I go very rarely
[21:32] <superfly> Night folks! 
[21:33] <melodie> gn superfly 
[21:33] <kulelu88> do you like us more? melodie :D
[21:33] <kulelu88> gn
[21:35] <melodie> on ubuntu-fr there are roughly two kinds of guys, the ones that are the maintainers and are in charge of order, and the ones that come for help and are pretty asking anything in any manner (nice, not nice, fast, not waiting for answers) and there is too much to read, too many people talking at the same time. 
[21:35] <melodie> each time I was there to ask for a solution to a problem I found myself helping others and not having had one clue about my own issue
[21:36] <melodie> once, ok, twice, ok, then it becomes kind of frustrating when the scheme repeats many times
[21:36] <melodie> not that I don't like helping people
[21:36] <melodie> I also want to meet with people who express different things
[21:37] <kulelu88> melodie: for genuine problems, you must go ask in #ubuntu
[21:37] <melodie> I need to check the word "genuine", but #ubuntu would be even worse :D
[21:38] <melodie> authentic
[21:38] <melodie> ok
[21:38] <melodie> fortunately I know many more channels
[21:38] <melodie> with people having specific knowledge who can be found there
[21:39] <melodie> kulelu88 so do you have the clues you were looking for regarding this tablet connection mode?
[21:42] <melodie> this one is tooo fun! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9wHzt6gBgI
[21:43] <kulelu88> I am going to phone the companies tomorrow melodie 
[21:43] <melodie> kulelu88 oh, ok.
[21:44] <melodie> just a question, why have a computer, a tablet, a smartphone, when they could all be inside one and only machine?
[21:44] <melodie> (hypothetically as it's not quite the case yet)
[21:44] <kulelu88> The tablet and computer serve different purposes melodie . that is why I want a cheap tablet
[21:45] <melodie> some want cheap computers
[21:45] <melodie> what do you intend to use a tablet for?
[21:49] <kulelu88> browsing, games and testing apps
[21:52] <melodie> do you program for android os ?
[21:53] <melodie> it seems like the big thing, hundreds of api and heard that 5000 more new ones coming next
[22:02] <kulelu88> no, but I will soon :)
[22:10] <melodie> oh great! are you going to learn by yourself?