[00:37] <ahoneybun> almost lost this install mcphail
[00:38] <ahoneybun> had to restart Xorg
[04:58] <bzoltan> ahoneybun: what packages the SDK replaced? The SDK can not break a standard Ubuntu. Of course if you have some special configuration with custom packages then your case might be special... but even in this case the SDK does not break anything what a simple dist-upgrade would not break.
[05:48] <cliftonts> Morning all, I'm hoping someone might be able to help me with packaging my software. I've submitted to the developer portal but they say it won't build even though it does so here perfectly.
[05:49] <cliftonts> The error they are getting is E: cliftontestsuite: arch-independent-package-contains-binary-or-object opt/cliftontestsuite/atk.so
[05:49] <cliftonts> oops, wrong message
[05:49] <cliftonts> cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/atk.so': No such file or directory
[05:50] <cliftonts> Though that file is in place and listed in the .install file. I'm not sure where to start.
[06:37] <cliftonts> Anybody?
[06:38] <dholbach> good morning
[06:44] <cliftonts> Morning.
[06:45] <cliftonts> I don't suppose you could provide me with some inspiration to help figure out why my package builds on my system fine but not on the moderators at the dev portal could you?
[08:25] <liuxg> is there any good way to calculate the length of the Text in QML if there is only one line?
[08:27] <liuxg> I want to draw a background for the text displayed in my Text. However, the Text could be multiple lines. For single line, I do not want to paint the unused space of my Text. Thanks
[08:29] <cliftonts> I wouldn't hold out for a reply liuxg
[08:33] <liuxg> cliftonts, I have a code like http://paste.ubuntu.com/11221391/. it works for me, but it has a QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" warning. I want to get rid of it. The text could be multiple lines. for single line, I just want to paint the background of the displayed area instead of the whole area.
[08:34] <liuxg> cliftonts, this is the listview I want to have http://imgur.com/3QKHUGZ. currently, it works, however, there is binding loop for it http://imgur.com/3QKHUGZ
[08:35] <cliftonts> Wouldn't have a clue I'm afraid. I'm here for help myself but have been waiting for something like 3 hours and you are the first real sign of life.
[08:35] <liuxg> cliftonts, ok.
[08:36] <danielbe> liuxg: what do you mean with "length" of the text? The amount of pixels/the amount of chars?
[08:37] <liuxg> danielbe, yes, the amount of pixels.
[08:39] <liuxg> danielbe, this is my code "git clone https://gitcafe.com/ubuntu/weixin.git". Basically, it works. I just want to get rid of the binding loop error.
[08:44] <JamesTait> liuxg, I'd like to understand what causes that, too. I only have time to occasionally dabble in this stuff, but I try to soak up whatever knowledge I can in the spaces in between.
[08:47] <liuxg> JamesTait, it is truly a binding loop. I understand the question. My code works, but I want to remove the warning.  I need to set a width for Text so that I can have multiple lines. However, for single line, I do not want to paint the whole area since it makes that stupid, so I have to adjust the width of the text again, which affects the number of displayed lines.
[13:55] <didrocks> zsombi: hey, small stupid question. I'm on 15.04 and just tried the first qmake template as I understand now qmake will be what is supported. "QML App with Simple UI (qmake)". It can't import Ubuntu.Components 1.1 (default in the template). I tried to switch to 1.2 (as it seems it's what other components in qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin are importing), but nothing
[13:55] <didrocks> zsombi: any idea?
[13:57] <didrocks> (I only enabled the desktop kit)
[13:58] <didrocks> bzoltan: maybe you would know as well ^
[13:58] <seb128> didrocks, what error do you get exactly?
[13:59] <didrocks> in French, but translated it would be "QML module not found"
[13:59] <didrocks> I think there should be no need to define QML_IMPORT_PATH for a default project using the desktop kit?
[13:59] <seb128> no, nothing should need to be changed
[13:59] <seb128> does it work if you qmlscene the .qml from the command line?
[13:59] <didrocks> yeah
[13:59] <didrocks> (with 1.1)
[14:00] <mhall119> didrocks: what kits do you have?
[14:00] <seb128> k, so not a package installation issue but a qtcreator env one
[14:03] <mcphail> I don't think you can target desktop with a 15.04 framework (and, by implication, qmake) yet...
[14:09] <didrocks> mcphail: well, it does run
[14:09] <mhall119> mcphail: you should be able to if you run 15.04 on your desktop
[14:09] <didrocks> mhall119: only the desktop one, as it's the desktop one used for code analysis
[14:09] <mhall119> didrocks: what's your QtCreator target, is it the desktop?
[14:09] <didrocks> yeah
[14:09] <mcphail> mhall119: are you sure? Someone had this conversation a week or so ago and it was said 15.04 doesn't have the 15.04 framework
[14:09] <mcphail> (on desktop)
[14:09] <mhall119> mcphail: I have ubuntu-sdk-15.04.framework on my desktop
[14:09] <seb128> works here (though I'm on wily now)
[14:09] <mhall119> so the components better all be there
[14:09] <mcphail> mhall119: ok - I took it as truth :)
[14:09] <didrocks> seb128: did you try the qmake project?
[14:09] <mhall119> mcphail: now if you were still on utopic it wouldn't work
[14:10] <seb128> didrocks, yes
[14:10] <mcphail> mhall119: no - it was someone on 15.04. There was a conversation about the frameworks not mayching the releases
[14:10]  * mcphail fears he may be spreading FUD
[14:10] <didrocks> seb128: grumph, dunno then… It's just a fresh one (I cleaned the qtcreator settings starting from scratch with the home move)
[14:10] <mhall119> mcphail: dunno then, maybe there was some context we're missing that explains it
[14:10] <mcphail> I've been avoiding qmake for that reason...
[14:10] <mhall119> oh
[14:10] <mhall119> oh!
[14:10] <mhall119> I think qmake didn't work with older components
[14:10] <mhall119> I think I remember that...
[14:10] <didrocks> mhall119: so, I should target 1.3?
[14:10] <didrocks> (I'm just using the default template…)
[14:25] <mhall119> didrocks: does 1.2 work?
[14:25] <mhall119> IIRC, it was that qmake required a newer framework target, though ubuntu-sdk-15.04 is still the newest
[14:25] <mhall119> bzoltan: zbenjamin: ^^ can you guys chime in on this?
[14:25] <didrocks> mhall119: no, 1.2 doesn't (same issue)
[14:25] <mhall119> didrocks: should have use qmlproject, much simpler :)
[14:25] <bzoltan> mhall119:  qmake project is supported only on 15.04 chroots
[14:25] <didrocks> mhall119: but the sdk team told it's deprecated for them
[14:25] <didrocks> bzoltan: ah, so code analysis won't work with it, right? What template should I use then?
[14:26] <bzoltan> didrocks:  not yet deprecated, but qmlproject has no build config... so it is a bit dumb
[14:26] <seb128> didrocks, just tried on a guest session on my laptop, picked "simple UI (qmake)", next, next, next, ctrl-R and it works here :-/
[14:26] <seb128> let me try on my test laptop to see
[14:26]  * didrocks does the same
[14:26] <danielbe> Hello. I would like to create a kit chroot for 14.10 on ubuntu 14.04. However, It fails with an error: "E: Unable to locate package qtsensors5-dev"
[14:26] <mcphail> bzoltan: qmake needs a 15.04 chroot, but can you target the 15.04 desktop with qmake? I believed (possibly wrongly) that the 15.04 desktop doesn't have the 15.04 framework and could use 1.2 components...
[14:26] <mcphail> *couldn'y
[14:26] <mcphail> aargh - typing bad again
[14:26] <bzoltan> mcphail:  of course you can
[14:26] <mcphail> my bad, then :)
[14:26] <bzoltan> mcphail:  the 15.04 desktop has 1.2 UITK, that is all the limitation
[14:26] <mcphail> ok - thanks. That is helpful
[14:26] <didrocks> seb128: doesn't here, it tells I have some issue with the typeinfo files (and that's the ubuntu sdk files)
[14:26] <didrocks> seb128: what version do you have? I added the release ubuntu-sdk ppas
[14:26] <seb128> the archive one
[14:26] <didrocks> maybe the issue comes from that
[14:26] <seb128> I bet it does
[14:26] <seb128> well, qmlscene works so it's weird
[14:26] <seb128> what target did you pick
[14:26] <didrocks> hum, qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-settings-components is the archive one
[14:26] <seb128> "Desktop"?
[14:26] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, Desktop
[14:26] <didrocks> I tried without a chroot though
[14:26] <seb128> weird that qmlscene from the command line works
[14:26] <seb128> does it work from a guest session?
[14:26] <bzoltan> seb128:  didrocks: remember that no runtime stuff comes from teh SDK PPA other then the QtCreator
[14:26] <seb128> bzoltan, qtcreator seems the issue, qmlscene from the command line doesn't have that import problem it seems
[14:26] <didrocks> seb128: see my answer above (I'm getting some invalid "typeinfo") issues
[14:26] <seb128> didrocks, you mean it's underlined in red and listing errors about missing versions etc?
[14:26] <didrocks> yeah
[14:26] <seb128> that's "normal"
[14:26] <didrocks> in the guest
[14:26] <didrocks> which is different from my user account
[14:26] <didrocks> normal?
[14:26] <seb128> doing the same for me on my different machines
[14:26] <seb128> in my normal sessions
[14:26] <didrocks> bzoltan: expected? ^
[14:26] <didrocks> seb128: so ok, I still have to figure out what's different on my user session then…
[14:26] <seb128> didrocks, is guest having the same problem?
[14:26] <seb128> on runtime I mean
[14:26] <seb128> but yeah, the qmltypes is missing the versions info
[14:26] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, runtime works
[14:26] <didrocks> on the guest
[14:26] <seb128> k
[14:26]  * didrocks really wonders what's on the user config
[14:26] <seb128> so something in your user profile...
[14:26] <didrocks> I'm happy to reset it and save it somewhere
[14:26] <didrocks> Mirv: bzoltan: what files should I purge to reset my qtcreator config? ^
[14:26] <didrocks> seb128: you did choose the 15.04 framework, right?
[14:26] <didrocks> not 14.10?
[14:26] <seb128> didrocks, no, "Desktop"
[14:26] <didrocks> Desktop is a target, not the framework that you choose when you create a project?
[14:26] <didrocks> this is before the "kit"
[14:26] <seb128> oh, right
[14:29] <seb128> yeah, "ubuntu-sdk-15.04"
[14:29] <seb128> on the framework combo at the bottom of the details page
[14:29] <didrocks> grumph, I just did retry without any luck
[14:29] <didrocks> ok, let's try randomely looking for files to remove
[14:29] <seb128> didrocks, try closing qtcreator, move ~/.config/QtProject away and restart it
[14:29] <seb128> didrocks, you might have https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator/+bug/1135336
[14:29] <seb128> that's a fixed bug, but maybe you ran it in the past when it was buggy
[14:29] <didrocks> seb128: that did it! (the profile was cleaned from yesterday thugh :/)
[14:29] <didrocks> though*
[14:29] <didrocks> but yeah, now I have the "normal" error
[14:29] <seb128> did you start qtcreator before installing the sdk?
[14:29] <didrocks> and the app starts
[14:29] <seb128> maybe that misconfiguration bug still happens
[14:29] <seb128> k
[14:29] <seb128> so same than here :-)
[14:29] <didrocks> no, I didn't
[14:29] <didrocks> thanks seb128 :)
[14:29] <seb128> dunno how the config has been bugged then
[14:29] <seb128> yw!
[14:29] <didrocks> mhall119: do you recommend using 1.1 or 1.2? I guess the later? (but the template still references 1.1)
[14:29] <didrocks> and useDeprecatedToolbar
[14:32] <mhall119> didrocks: I'd recommend 1.1 if you can, that will support utopic which is what the Bq phones are still on
[14:32] <mhall119> if you switch to 1.2, just remove the useDeprecatedToolbar
[14:33] <bzoltan> didrocks:  ~/.config/QtProject/
[14:33] <didrocks> mhall119: ok, I think the app won't get out before the Bq phone will switch anyway, so it's fine to target it
[14:34] <didrocks> bzoltan: yeah, removing it did it. I'm just surprised because it's a new HOME directory from yesterday, so I wonder if the bug is really fixed
[15:30] <DS-McGuire> dholbach, I saw your post to G+ about the new design, I have another image almost ready if you want me to send it to you so you can add it to the article.
[15:31] <dholbach> sure
[15:31] <DS-McGuire> I will email it now.
[15:35] <DS-McGuire> dholbach, My apologies, it seems I have overwritten the work I did on a new page. I will start it again now and I will let you know when it's ready, sorry about that.
[15:35] <dholbach> ah damn... that sucks, having to recreate work :-/
[15:35] <dholbach> it has happened to me so many times
[15:37]  * balloons left questions on the list
[15:40] <dholbach> thanks balloons
[15:40] <dholbach> I'll reply to them tomorrow
[15:40] <dholbach> now it's dinner time over here - see you guys tomorrow - I'll check mails later on again
[15:47] <DS-McGuire> It does suck :(
[16:31] <popey> mhall119: do you know if ubuntu-html5-app-launcher can run full screen? (no title bar) ?
[18:56] <aquarius> mhall119, I'm pretty sure it's pronounced bay-oo-no, although beuno can confirm :)
[19:03] <mhall119> popey: doesn't it require a setting in the .desktop file?
[19:04] <popey> mhall119: i have no idea!
[19:04] <popey> mhall119: can you test the dontcrash game in the store if you get 5 mins :)
[19:04] <mhall119> will it crash my phone?
[19:04] <popey> No, it "don't" crash
[19:04] <popey> its just a silly game.
[19:05] <mhall119> aquarius: in my head it's always "bueno", because he's such a good guy who implements all the features I ask for ;)
[19:08] <mhall119> popey: no fair, he changed right before we met :(
[19:08] <mhall119> got to level 7
[19:08] <popey> haha
[19:08] <popey> that works then
[19:08] <popey> yeah, i may have to tweak that
[19:09] <mhall119> did the same thing again at level 7
[19:09] <mhall119> the trick is to ignore your own car
[19:09] <popey> 8 is my high score
[19:09] <beuno> aquarius, you are correct
[19:09] <mhall119> just watch the yellow one, and click the screen whenever it crosses the white line
[19:10] <aquarius> yay! I remember having it patiently explained to me a few years back :)
[19:10] <mhall119> except when it crosses as it's passing you, and there's nowhere to go
[19:10] <mhall119> popey: graphics remind me of MvM, it's quite nice
[19:16] <mhall119> ubuntu-sdk-15.04 API docs have been published!
[19:16] <mhall119> https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/
[19:36] <DS-McGuire> mhall119, Thank you so much for the Testimonial! :D
[19:37] <mhall119> DS-McGuire: thank *you* so much for your contributions :)
[19:37] <DS-McGuire> mhall119, Not a problem :)
[19:37]  * DS-McGuire goes red
[20:00] <DS-McGuire> mhall119, Is it too late to put my name down for the Ubuntu membership meeting tomorrow?
[20:02] <mhall119> DS-McGuire: that's up to the membership board
[20:03] <DS-McGuire> mhall119, Okay then, thanks :)
[20:16] <bzoltan> mhall119: \o/
[20:22] <mivoligo> is there a way to set an app in the store to be only available for a specific Ubuntu version?
[20:44] <DS-McGuire> mivoligo, Phone or desktop?
[20:44] <mivoligo> DS-McGuire: phone
[20:45] <DS-McGuire> mivoligo, Why are you targeting a certain version? (If you don't mind me asking)
[20:46] <mivoligo> DS-McGuire: well, turns out my app does not work well on the devel version, so I want to limit it for now
[20:47] <DS-McGuire> mivoligo, Ah. Well surely that is to be expected on the devel version. However I do not know of a way to only target the stable channel.
[20:49] <mivoligo> DS-McGuire: yeah, I only see option to limit availability by country
[20:51] <DS-McGuire> mivoligo, Well I surely haven't seen any way to limit it. I honestly believe though that you shouldn't hold back the app because of the devel branch. The devel is constantly changing and breakages will happen. It's like when they introduced the new headers to devel and it broke a few apps.
[20:52] <mivoligo> DS-McGuire: the app is already in the store but I just wanted to make everyone happy :) or rather don't make anyone unhappy ;)
[20:57] <DS-McGuire> mivoligo, I like that attitude! :D Perhaps put a disclaimer in the description? BTW, what's the app?
[20:59] <mivoligo> DS-McGuire: Timer
[21:00] <DS-McGuire> mivoligo, Ah your app is Timer! It looks great :D
[21:00] <mivoligo> DS-McGuire: thanks :)
[21:45] <mcphail> sturmflut2: ping
[21:52] <mcphail> Can anyone point me in the right direction? I've been looking at sturmflut's sdl template at https://github.com/Sturmflut/ubuntu-touch-sdl-template . I can build the click, but when I run it on my phone I get an apparmor="DENIED" in my dmesg. It seems the run.sh script doesn't have permission to run. What do I need to tweak to give it permission? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11232605/
[21:53] <mcphail> I presume I have to add the appropriate policygroup to the .apparmor file?
[23:31] <mcphail> Actually, forget that. It is a red herring