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[16:52] <aikidouke> is there a community qa meeting today?
[16:53] <wxl> aikidouke: yep, in about 5 min
[16:53] <aikidouke> hey wxl! :) thanks
[16:53] <wxl> np aikidouke :)
[16:58] <voxoph> how does this work
[16:58] <voxoph> the comunity qna
[17:00] <balloons> you ask us questions and we answer them :-)
[17:00] <voxoph> cool :)
[17:01] <voxoph> I was wondering, does ubuntu plan on updating UI/ UX in the future?
[17:01] <elfy> balloons: normal protocol QUESTION: foo ?
[17:01] <mhall119> elfy: yup
[17:01] <mhall119> waiting for everyone to get on the hangout, then we'll start
[17:01] <voxoph> okay
[17:01] <elfy> QUESTION : Up to early December last year I often went to https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Ubiquity/view/Xubuntu/ to check how my images were faring - it gave some indication of whether an image at least got through basic testing - that is now still showing fails from over 5 months ago- what gives - any plans to get visible reports back
[17:02] <elfy> QUESTION : A while back Canonical made the decision to not take part during milestones until the Final Beta, while that's great for Ubuntu I'm sure - it makes things less certain for flavours who do take part. Often during the last cycle or two things have failed which do so for Ubuntu too - but it's left to people like me (more interested in Xubuntu) to flag Ubuntu issues affecting flavours. That said - I have had nothing but help from the
[17:02] <elfy> likes of infinity, cyphermox, pitti, Laney and others when I have shouted. Is the Final Beta only going to continue?
[17:02] <elfy> QUESTION : When you all get really excited about Snappy - is that going to mean that flavours not going that way get sidelined, what's going to happen if we're worrying about something *Ubuntu* isn't?
[17:02] <elfy> :)
[17:02] <mhall119> elfy has been saving these up
[17:02]  * elfy got asked :p
[17:03] <aikidouke> QUESTION: How long do we expect Unity 7 to be maintained?
[17:03] <elepants> is it on? i can't see teh videoh
[17:03] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I cnat see either
[17:03] <elepants> maybe we blind  :(
[17:03] <elepants> OMG WE BLIND X-(
[17:04] <mhall119> it hasn't started yet
[17:04] <elepants> so we no blind?
[17:04] <elepants> pheww
[17:04] <balloons> starting up now :-)
[17:04] <mhall119> going live now
[17:05] <aikidouke> QUESTION: How will packaging things like non-free video drivers work with snappy?
[17:05] <Gralak> QUESTION: Please tell, will MX4 be available in June in Europe? When will be another flash sale in China?
[17:06] <elepants> QUESTION: how to install mir on ubuntu snappy core?
[17:07] <DS-McGuire> QUESTION: What happened to the new design for the headers on Ubuntu Touch. One day they were and the next they were gone.
[17:08] <elepants> QUESTION: is Snappy Ubuntu Core Fun Pack available for sale?
[17:09] <wxl> QUESTION: is there going to be any more organized, official community testing for Touch/Phone beyond exploratory testing like there is for every other image? :)
[17:09] <Gralak> QUESTION: Please tell, will MX4 be available in June in Europe? When will be another flash sale in China?
[17:09] <wxl> Gralak: please, ask only once.
[17:10] <DS-McGuire> Loving the banter! :L
[17:10] <aikidouke> QUESTION:If he colors the hair and the beard, is that convergance? :)
[17:10] <wxl> aikidouke: HAHAHAH
[17:11] <wxl> argh brb
[17:13] <DS-McGuire> QUESTION: WHEN CAN I IN THE UK GET AN UBUNTU MX4?
[17:13] <DS-McGuire> Opps, sorry about the caps
[17:14] <DS-McGuire> QUESTION: How long after applying for an Ubuntu membership should I expect to hear something back from it?
[17:14] <Gralak> QUESTION: Please tell, will MX4 be available in June in Europe? When will be another flash sale in China?
[17:15] <mhall119> any QA/CI/Testing questions, please get them in now before it's too late
[17:15] <elfy> DS-McGuire: are you on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards
[17:16] <DS-McGuire> elfy, No not yet, I need more testimonials for my wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/daniel-mcguire351
[17:16] <elfy> DS-McGuire: right - so once you have those, the board meets twice a month :)
[17:17] <DS-McGuire> elfy, Thanks a lot! I am suppose to have at least two, yes?
[17:19] <elfy> mhall119: so where's Daniel and Nick reading these questions from?
[17:19] <mhall119> elfy: the questions we're answering here?
[17:20] <elfy> I guess - can't see the questions they're answering :p
[17:20] <mhall119> elfy: I'm skipping around from what was asked in here
[17:20] <mhall119> trying to hit the QA related ones first
[17:20] <elfy> mmm
[17:20] <balloons> elfy, :-) i have a feed straight into my brain from irc
[17:20] <mhall119> elfy: did I miss one?
[17:20] <balloons> always running ;p
[17:21] <mhall119> cat /dev/random > balloons
[17:21] <elfy> mhall119: well I don'tknow how many where in here before mine
[17:21] <mhall119> none before you
[17:21] <elfy> mmm
[17:21] <elfy> well I missed mine then I guess somehow
[17:22] <mhall119> elfy: your first 2 were answered first
[17:22] <wxl> stupid customers interrupting my uoa session
[17:22] <wxl> what did i miss?
[17:22] <elfy> mhall119: is this recorded?
[17:22] <mhall119> elfy: yes, it'll be on ubuntuonair.com for a while
[17:22] <elfy> I'll see if I can hear the answers then :)
[17:22] <mhall119> elfy: or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBeRaSjqrmg anytime
[17:23] <mhall119> elfy: I summarized the questions, rather than reading them out fully
[17:23] <elfy> mhall119: I had --verbose ...
[17:24] <wxl> QUESTION: same question about Touch above for Snappy. tl;dr how can average joes and janes contribute to testing much in the way that testing for desktop images has a low point of entry?
[17:24] <wxl> mhall119: FIELD TRIP :)
[17:26] <wxl> …raspberry pi TWO
[17:28] <balloons> any last minute questions for us QA folks?
[17:30] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: will snappy snap at us? ;-;
[17:30]  * wxl facepalms
[17:30] <Kamilion> Negative; it will snapshot at you.
[17:31] <mhall119> in soviet Ubuntu, snappy packages you :)
[17:31]  * wxl groans
[17:31] <mhall119> I'm here all week :)
[17:31]  * Kamilion throws some change in the hat
[17:31]  * wxl takes mhall119's wife
[17:32] <ChloeWolfieGirl> beautiful mhall119
[17:32] <wxl> QUESTION: what about tests in Common Lisp? XD
[17:32] <Kamilion> QUESTION: What about tests for Xen?
[17:32] <Kamilion> Aw. Too late.
[17:33] <wxl> well, thanks everyone
[17:34] <Kamilion> QUESTION: when will we see something like the casper livecd ISO for snappy?
[17:35] <wxl> QUESTION: how exactly do flavors start integrating Snappy? taking all their particular packages and making Snaps out of them?
[17:38] <Knightmare> QUESTION: Is there any development that can be done for the phone in python?
[17:39] <balloons> thanks for all the questions guys! As we said, #ubuntu-quality is the place if you ever want to chat with myself or anyone from the QA team :-)
[17:39] <Gralak> QUESTION: Please tell, will MX4 be available in June in Europe? When will be another flash sale in China?
[17:39] <wxl> Gralak: he just answered.
[17:39] <elepants> mhall119: fun pack https://twitter.com/adzankich/status/599298402644439041
[17:40] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: How will canonical advertise Ubuntu Touch and Ubuntu desktop to the public to make them more aware of ubuntu?
[17:40] <wxl> Kamilion: he's answering your question btw
[17:41] <Kamilion> I'm watchin'.
[17:41] <wxl> ko
[17:41] <DS-McGuire> QUESTION: Do you know weather the minimum price of an app in the store drop to something lower? I want to charge a small fee for apps I am creating but 1.99 is too much to ask.
[17:42] <Kamilion> Aye -- appliance images, I currently use casper's TORAM to load the squashfs on boot from the ISO for my xen project.
[17:42] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Do you know if/when we'll get bitcoin support in the store and could you intergrate the payment with a bitcoin app?
[17:43] <wxl> oh man i am so making a lubuntu snappy image
[17:43] <wxl> wanna help, Kamilion ?
[17:43] <Kamilion> Sure.
[17:43] <wxl> i got a pi 2 that i'd love to put it on
[17:43] <DS-McGuire> Stream down?
[17:43] <Kamilion> froze for me too.
[17:43] <Kamilion> and it's back.
[17:43] <wxl> DS-McGuire: buffering
[17:44] <DS-McGuire> back!
[17:44] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: What will happen to apps I paid for in the current ubuntu store with unity8 and the new store?
[17:45] <wxl> QUESTION: is there any documentation anywhere about making a flavor Snappy image?
[17:45] <wxl> shoot work calls brb
[17:47] <Gralak> QUESTION: Please tell, will MX4 be available in June in Europe? When will be another flash sale in China?
[17:48] <elepants> mhall119: it was given away for free at ubuntu booth IoTWorld
[17:49] <Kamilion> QUESTION: Has anything been looked at re Stripe or Coinbase for micropayments?
[17:49] <Knightmare> QUESTION: Will 16.04 have support for high resolution displays i.e. 4k
[17:51] <Geek500> Is anything happening with Ubuntu for TV?
[17:55] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Will Ubuntu on the Phone be a bit neglected when making unity8 desktop exclusive features that you'd only beable to use on desktop or coverged devices?
[17:57] <Knightmare> QUESTION: Do you feel that maybe Canonical/Ubuntu might be getting spread a bit thin due to the work load?
[17:58] <aikidouke> QUESTION: Does the QA team have a weekly meeting?
[17:59] <Kamilion> QUESTION: What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
[17:59] <aikidouke> An African or European Swallow?
[17:59] <Kamilion> It's irresponsible to answer a question with a question, aikidouke ;)
[17:59] <aikidouke> :)
[18:00] <Kamilion> python3 can answer it.
[18:00] <Kamilion> just import antigravity.
[18:00] <mhall119> thanks eveyrone
[18:01] <Knightmare> bye
[18:01] <Kamilion> cheers.
[18:02] <Kamilion> psst, the answer is 10 meters per second.
[18:04] <wxl> aikidouke: btw there is no regular QA team meeeting
[18:05] <aikidouke> wxl: I thought I saw one on the wiki a while ago, but havent been able to find it. TY
[18:05] <balloons> aikidouke, if you can't use IRC there's also the mailing list
[18:05] <balloons> aikidouke, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quality
[18:06] <aikidouke> balloons: ;) well i did ask first in IRC, i've been in and out thought, so i might have missed it
[18:06] <aikidouke> balloons: I am on the mailing list and have done a tiny bit of testing
[18:06] <aikidouke> balloons: i just need to give myself some more time to do more I guess
[18:08] <balloons> aikidouke, feel free to contact me directly anytime if you get stuck. But in general the IRC channel and mailing list gets you in touch with the rest of the community and they are happy and more than capable of pointing you in the proper direction
[18:09] <aikidouke> balloons: thank you, I will, soon!
[18:11] <elfy> balloons: thanks -must have missed the beginning on -on-air - caught it all now