[05:34] <Kilos> morning all of ya and inetpro  
[05:57] <magespawn> good morning
[05:57] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[05:59] <Padroni> Morning all
[05:59] <Kilos> hi Padroni  wb
[06:00] <Padroni> ty
[06:00] <Padroni> how are you doing?
[06:00] <Kilos> apart from cold, good ty
[06:00] <Kilos> your side?
[06:00] <Padroni> bit of a flu
[06:01] <Padroni> otherwise fine
[06:01] <Kilos> ai!
[06:01] <Padroni> when last was DarkSurferZA here?
[06:01] <Kilos> long time ago
[06:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> moo
[06:03] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[06:07] <magespawn> hi Padroni ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:07] <Padroni> hi magespawn
[06:07] <magespawn> Maaz seen DarkSurferZA
[06:07] <Maaz> magespawn: DarkSurferZA was last seen 1 month, 22 days, 18 hours, 47 minutes and 37 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-03-27 04:19:47 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-03-27 06:06:25 PDT
[06:07] <Padroni> there's a guy wanting to sell a Alienware MX14 for 25k cash
[06:07] <Padroni> on a facebook page
[06:07] <Padroni> madness
[06:08] <Kilos> hi MaNI  
[06:08] <MaNI> hi
[06:08] <Padroni> I love alienware but that much for a 14" screen....  not on my watch
[06:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> i wouldn't want a 14" screen on my watch either
[06:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> seems impractical
[06:15] <magespawn> you can get a brand new one for only a little more
[06:16] <magespawn> ThatGraemeGuy: too big or too small?
[06:17] <Kilos> lol
[06:17] <Kilos> surely small
[06:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah too small
[06:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> i expect my watch to have a 60" 4K display at the very least
[06:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> and 7.2 audio
[06:21] <Kilos> sjoe
[06:25] <magespawn> ThatGraemeGuy: how would that fit on your wrist?
[06:25] <Kilos> lol
[06:26] <Kilos> with difficulty
[06:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> whoooosh
[06:41] <Padroni> lol - I meant I wouldn't buy a laptop with such a small screen
[06:41] <Padroni> even if it is alienware
[06:41] <Kilos> lol
[07:02] <Kilos> hi pieter2627  hows things
[07:05] <pieter2627> hi Kilos 
[07:05] <pieter2627> great ty, and self?
[07:06] <Kilos> good ty, just cold
[07:15] <barrydk> More almal
[07:16] <magespawn> hi barrydk pieter2627 
[07:16] <Kilos> hi barrydk  
[07:17] <pieter2627> morning magespawn
[07:17] <pieter2627> and barrydk 
[07:18]  * Kilos looking at http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/126462-uncapped-mobile-data-for-r169-per-month.html
[07:21] <magespawn> Kilos: they block youtube, which is a problem for me, a lot of the instructional/educational videos i watch are on there
[07:22] <Kilos> i see that. i dont do tube anyway
[07:22] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac  
[07:22] <TinuvaMac> hi Kilos
[07:23] <Kilos> i could do every release with that kind of data though
[07:29] <Kilos> eish. why do i see clinton and obama tweets by me?
[07:30] <magespawn> which tweets are those Kilos?
[07:33] <Kilos> hmm.. between them
[07:37] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:38] <Kilos> my pro has arrived
[07:38] <pieter2627> morning inetpro 
[07:38] <inetpro> oh hi pieter2627
[07:38] <Kilos> ty inetpro  
[07:38] <inetpro> oh and hi Kilos
[07:38] <Kilos> lol
[07:38] <Kilos> read your mail
[07:39] <magespawn> who must read their mail Kilos?
[07:39] <Kilos> pro
[07:39]  * magespawn waves to inetpro 
[07:41] <mazal> Morning everyone
[07:41] <inetpro> Kilos: hmm...
[07:41] <Kilos> hi mazal  
[07:42] <inetpro> so Kilos makes a few waves on the new membership board and gets what he wants?
[07:42] <inetpro> well done Kilos
[07:42] <Kilos> ty inetpro  
[08:15] <magespawn> full story please Kilos?
[08:27] <Kilos> hmm...
[08:35]  * pieter2627 is also wondering about the full story
[08:37] <Kilos> long story
[08:40] <Kilos> long story short, looks like we will be able to apply for membership soon at our 10pm
[09:02] <Kilos> hi eebrah_  
[09:04] <eebrah_> Kilos: hey
[09:06] <eebrah_> moving to #ubuntu-africa
[09:43] <stickyboy> nooo
[09:44] <Kilos> hi stickyboy  
[09:44] <Kilos> haha
[09:50] <stickyboy> Kilos: Hey hey
[09:59] <stickyboy> Kilos: You're on Twitter?
[09:59] <Kilos> yessir
[09:59] <Kilos> sharpeys
[10:00] <stickyboy> Ah... I thought this might be you: http://twitter.com/rikergoogling
[10:00] <Kilos> haha
[10:00] <Kilos> hey stickyboy  you got sites
[10:01] <Kilos> im trying to get google to find the ubuntu africa site quicker when peeps type in ubuntu africa
[10:02] <stickyboy> Kilos: Ah.
[10:02] <stickyboy> Yeah... you need what the industry calls Search Engine Optimization (SEO).
[10:03] <Kilos> can you add this in somewhere 
[10:03] <Kilos> <a href="http://ubuntu-africa.info/" title="Ubuntu Africa">Ubuntu Africa</a>
[10:04] <Kilos> that SEO thing is too much for me to do, so adding that will help from other sides i think
[10:06] <stickyboy> Yeah, SEO gets a bit much. I hate the term "SEO" like I hate the term "Cloud".
[10:06] <stickyboy> But never the less, you need to add your site to Google Webmaster Tools, that helps a lot.
[10:09] <Kilos> add that command from a couple of your sites for us stickyboy  lets see what happens
[10:13] <stickyboy> It's already on my blog and Nairobi LUG blog. :P
[10:13] <Kilos> not enough
[10:14] <magespawn> it also helps if people can link from their blog/lug sites to the ubuntu-africa site
[10:15] <magespawn> although how much that helps i am not sure
[10:15] <Kilos> well if we all do it , things can only get better
[10:46] <magespawn> what is the code name for the latest version of ubuntu?
[10:48] <mazal> Vivid Vervet
[10:49] <magespawn> hmm something close to home then
[10:55] <mazal> I had to google now to see what a vervet is :P
[10:55] <Kilos> haha
[10:55] <mazal> I wonder what they gonna do when the alphabet reach the end
[10:56] <mazal> Start at a again ?
[10:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> start from A again
[10:56] <magespawn> start again?
[10:56] <magespawn> lol
[10:56] <mazal> I bet z will be Zebra hehehehe
[10:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> zany zebra
[10:56] <mazal> yeah , that sounds kewl !
[10:58] <magespawn> Zigging Zebra
[10:58] <magespawn> Zapped Zebra
[10:58] <Kilos> zealous zebra
[11:00] <magespawn> that sounds more inline with the other names
[11:07] <Kilos> i go eat now
[11:28] <pieter2627> i would like something like zealous zorro
[11:28] <Kilos> zorro isnt an animal
[11:33] <pieter2627> maaz google zorro animal
[11:34] <Maaz> pieter2627: "Vulpini - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre" http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulpini :: "Características de los zorros | ZORROPEDIA" http://www.zorropedia.com/caracteristicas-zorros/ :: "zorro - significado de zorro diccionario" http://es.thefreedictionary.com/zorro :: "Small-eared Zorro Printout- EnchantedLearning.com"
[11:34] <Maaz> http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/mammals/fox/Smallearedzorro.shtml :: "Cute Animal Patagonian Fox / Zorro Patagonic…
[11:34] <Kilos> ah its a kinda fox
[11:34] <pieter2627> jip
[11:35] <Kilos> pieter2627  do you have time to run an ubuntu hour sometime
[11:35] <pieter2627> spanish for fox or something
[11:35] <Kilos> yeah
[11:37] <pieter2627> doubt it, what is an ubuntu hour btw?
[11:37] <Kilos> one goes to a coffee shop or something and demonstrates ubuntu to peeps
[11:38] <Kilos> there is a mail from the fly this morning saying what that chick in the usa does
[11:38] <Kilos> there used to be one every month in the cape and a few in jozi 
[11:39] <pieter2627> oh, my daily digest has not arrived yet.
[11:39] <Kilos> lol
[11:39]  * pieter2627 didn't mean to say something funny
[11:40] <Kilos> ya man its just the idea of a whole days mail at once
[11:40] <pieter2627> you did mean a mail on the mailing list :)
[11:40] <Kilos> i wouldnt keep up
[11:40] <Kilos> yes
[11:40] <pieter2627> oow, i see
[11:40] <Kilos> our list
[11:46] <Kilos> its hard to find peeps that can do it monthly
[11:51] <pieter2627> maybe one should rather try to get peeps to fill in monthly?
[11:52] <Kilos> i think most of the guys would but work keeps them busy
[11:52]  * pieter2627 thinks so too
[11:53] <Kilos> only times us za peeps might manage is weekends i think
[11:53] <Kilos> then its hard for family guys
[11:54] <Kilos> would be cool if we could get some high school kids on our side
[11:54] <Kilos> they love hanging out in malls
[11:54] <pieter2627> yea it would, but i would feel sorry for them
[11:54] <Kilos> why?
[11:56] <pieter2627> cause they will learn to much and might find IT at school boring if they have it as a subject - it is how i felt
[11:56] <Kilos> ah
[11:56] <pieter2627> boring to the point of frustrating
[11:56] <Kilos> there surely must be some anyway because all kids today have laptops and tablets
[11:57] <Kilos> they cant all be drag and drop peeps like me
[11:58] <pieter2627> haha, they are seek and drop :p
[11:58] <Kilos> lol
[11:58] <Kilos> read how much this girl does http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2015/04/08/interview-with-elizabeth-k-joseph-of-the-ubuntu-community-council/
[11:58] <pieter2627> ok
[11:58] <Kilos> we lag far behind
[11:59] <Kilos> ok to me she is a girl still
[12:00] <pieter2627> ah i almost felt really young
[12:00] <Kilos> lol
[12:34] <pieter2627> the topic about the ubuntu hour in the mail list is interesting - what is the experience of the guys that used to attend one in the past?
[12:34] <pieter2627> meaning sa guys
[12:43] <Kilos> there are a few that have done them
[12:43] <Kilos> Maia used to be the kingpin
[12:43] <mazal> Bye everyone , have a nice evening
[12:44] <Kilos> there were pretty cakes and everything for release parties and so on
[12:44] <Kilos> i wonder where all those pictures are
[12:45] <Kilos> pro can find stuffs when he isnt just lurking
[12:48] <Kilos> and they used to sit and chat to us here while things were happening
[12:56] <pieter2627> ah ok
[12:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh joy load shedding at 18:00-20:30
[12:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> worst damn slot
[12:57] <Kilos> ai!
[12:57] <Kilos> no sende laan
[12:57] <Kilos> 7de
[12:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> kids enjoy bathing by candlelight at least they think its hilarious
[12:57] <Kilos> lol
[13:18] <kulelu88> shiit
[13:25] <kulelu88> I just can't find a tablet with an IR blaster :(
[13:56] <magespawn> brb
[14:01] <magespawn> back
[14:01] <Kilos> wb magespawn  
[14:01] <magespawn> Kilos: i only saw your pm now
[14:01] <Kilos> ok
[14:13] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:57]  * Padroni greets the room
[14:58] <Padroni> good bye people
[14:58] <Padroni> see you tomorrow
[14:59] <Cantide> goodbye
[14:59] <Cantide> '-'/
[14:59] <Padroni> Kilos check your pvt
[15:05] <Kilos> hi Cantide  
[15:05] <Cantide> hello '-';;;
[15:05] <Cantide> i'll be afk for a bit..
[15:06] <Cantide> maybe 30 minutes .-.
[15:06] <Kilos> ok
[16:29] <magespawn> good evening
[16:30] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[16:31] <magespawn> Kilos have you ever tried any other linux distro? like CentOS or suse?
[16:32] <Kilos> yes centos sucks for me
[16:32] <magespawn> why?
[16:32] <Kilos> i also tried tinycore which was nice but more learning
[16:32] <Kilos> i did centos for the lpi course we were going to do
[16:33] <elacheche> Suse sucks.. CentOS, Fedora, Arch, Slackware, Gentoo & Debian are cool.. But I use only Ubuntu ;D
[16:33] <magespawn> most of the certifications seem to be based on red hat or other rpm based distros like centos
[16:33] <Kilos> but i struggle remembering all the different commands
[16:34] <Kilos> and centos could even see my modem
[16:34] <Kilos> yeah
[16:35] <elacheche> magespawn, CentOS & Fedora are RHEL :D Redhat usually uses them to try new features before integrated them to RHEL :)
[16:35] <magespawn> going to be doing a dual boot maybe, or i might just remove xubuntu for a bit
[16:36] <Kilos> elacheche  now you just need to upgrade to kubuntu
[16:37]  * Kilos ducks
[16:39] <elacheche> L00L Kilos :D I have KDE :D I have fancy GUI :D I like minimal things :D I crated my OWN Mate Ubuntu before they make it a distro :D → Backto 2012 I installed Ubuntu like it was a server (only cli) then I installed Mate on it.. And I'm in my way to a more minimalist OS, I use AWESOME WM in my laptop for more then year now..
[16:39] <elacheche> I HATE fancy GUI 
[16:39] <magespawn> Kilos: it is always a good to learn new things
[16:40] <Kilos> yes magespawn  for peeps that can remember stuff
[16:40] <Kilos> for what i do , kde rocks
[16:40] <magespawn> that is what a pen and paper is for
[16:40] <magespawn> kde is very nice
[16:40] <elacheche> For what I do, KDE is a waste of hardware resources :D 
[16:41] <Kilos> elacheche  nothing wears out
[16:41] <magespawn> i am tending to find that too
[16:41] <Kilos> kde is heavy yes but once you used it for a few months other systems just dont offer as much
[16:42] <Kilos> only 2 things i need, a good ups and an ssd then im happy
[16:43] <elacheche> :FD
[16:43] <elacheche> :D
[16:47] <magespawn> dinner time
[16:56] <magespawn> back
[16:57] <magespawn> that was good
[16:57] <Kilos> lol
[16:57] <inetpro> good evening
[16:57] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[16:57] <inetpro> magespawn: what did you have for dinner?
[16:58] <magespawn> greek salad and 2 baked potatoes
[16:58] <Kilos> eish
[16:58] <inetpro> hmm... he's a vegetarian?
[16:58] <Kilos> no meat?
[16:59] <magespawn> not tonight, helps control the cholestorol
[16:59] <Kilos> eish
[17:00] <inetpro> ai!
[17:01] <magespawn> an eish and an ai, what now/
[17:02]  * inetpro won't survive on that
[17:02] <Kilos> fix the cholestorol
[17:02] <inetpro> it sounds healthy though 
[17:02] <Kilos> lol
[17:02] <magespawn> genetically inhereited Kilos 
[17:02] <Kilos> ill rather eat a peanut butter sarmy
[17:03] <Kilos> sorry magespawn  
[17:03] <magespawn> nothing too it really, just means i have to watch what i eat, not a bad thing really
[17:05] <inetpro> Maaz: Kilos ++ [rather eat a peanut butter sarmy than just eating a salad]
[17:06] <magespawn> not good to eat big heavy things before going to bed, not that a peanut sarmy qualifies as that
[17:06] <Kilos> i think lotsa UV's help lower cholesterol
[17:06] <Kilos> and raw onions and lentils
[17:06] <magespawn> yes there are a lot of things that help
[17:06] <magespawn> fish too
[17:07] <Kilos> i love fish but its become rather pricey
[17:07] <inetpro> an egg a day is good for you
[17:07] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:07] <Kilos> wbb
[17:13] <gremble> o/
[17:15] <magespawn> hey gremble 
[17:17] <gremble> How are you magespawn?
[17:17] <magespawn> good and you?
[17:17] <gremble> I am well thank you
[17:25] <Kilos> hi there gremble  
[17:25] <gremble> Hey Kilos. For a moment thought you were sleeping
[17:25] <gremble> :P
[17:26] <Kilos> lol i was eating, and not salad
[17:26] <gremble> Salad is healthy though
[17:27] <Kilos> yes we have often but with a meal
[17:27] <Kilos> lekker at a braai as well
[17:27] <gremble> Braaiing a salad is not nice though
[17:27] <Kilos> lol
[17:28] <Kilos> that isnt a good mathematic deduction
[17:28] <gremble> Nope. It's part of the "duh" knowledge system
[17:28] <Kilos> haha
[17:29] <magespawn> we could use some more of that in this country
[17:29] <Kilos> more duh knowlege?
[17:30] <Kilos> dge too
[17:31] <gremble> I second that notion
[17:31] <gremble> And less selfishness
[17:32] <Kilos> yip
[17:32] <Kilos> ohi superfly  
[18:01] <magespawn> load shedding, good night all
[18:02] <Kilos> ai!
[18:07] <Kilos> Maaz  announce 7 Days to our next monthly meeting guys and gals
[18:07] <Maaz> Hear ye, hear ye! 7 Days to our next monthly meeting guys and gals
[18:10] <gremble> Maaz announce tea is far superiour to coffee
[18:10] <Maaz> Hear ye, hear ye! tea is far superiour to coffee
[18:11] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[18:11]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[18:11]  * Kilos sniggers
[18:15] <kulelu88> This is Africa
[18:15] <gremble> TIA?
[18:15] <kulelu88> Until now. Lights are back
[18:15] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:15] <inetpro> ai tog! 
[18:16] <inetpro> shedding the load here now 
[18:16] <Kilos> wat nou inetpro  
[18:16] <Kilos> ai!
[18:16] <kulelu88> This was more like "we're testing out what total blackout feels like"
[18:18] <kulelu88> the yolk of an egg is bad for the heart
[18:18] <gremble> So is the powder of cocaine
[18:18] <Kilos> and rat poison
[18:18] <kulelu88> gremble: can you charge your electronics at the big generators on hatfield campus?
[18:19] <gremble> Well, not at the generators, but at the plugs attached to them, sure
[18:19] <gremble> There is even wifi on campus
[18:19] <kulelu88> free pron?
[18:19] <gremble> when loadshedding hits, tuks don't feel it
[18:19] <gremble> I guess
[18:20] <kulelu88> is it free free or do you need to register your device?
[18:20] <gremble> free if your device is eduroam registered
[18:20] <gremble> But for that you have to be affiliated with an eduroam institution
[18:20] <gremble> like uP
[18:20] <gremble> so I guess not
[18:20] <gremble> :P
[18:21] <kulelu88> do you still get those people hanging a rope between 2 trees and walking on it?
[18:21] <gremble> Haven't seen them in a very long time
[18:22] <gremble> They were everywhere in first year
[18:22] <kulelu88> hopefully they graduated
[18:22] <gremble> I think they either graduated or failed out :P
[18:22] <gremble> It's called slack-lining
[18:22] <kulelu88> they reckon 50% of first years drop out of varsity
[18:22] <gremble> It is quite difficult. I have fallen on my balls a few times doing that
[18:23] <kulelu88> did it at least tickle your sack?
[18:23] <Kilos> lol
[18:23] <Kilos> hi pieter2627  
[18:23] <gremble> tickling is not the word that I would use
[18:24] <kulelu88> the good old days of no worries, women wearing hardly any clothes and drugs and booze all over
[18:25] <gremble> Haha
[18:25] <gremble> Sounds like you had a good time :P
[18:25] <kulelu88> No, twasnt me. I'm on IRC ftw. The most dangerous things we did was use the varsity PCs as a LAN for CS
[18:26] <gremble> Haha xD Which ones? Informatorium?
[18:26] <kulelu88> those were the least dirty
[18:27] <gremble> Ya, because only the privileged few are allowed to use those
[18:27] <kulelu88> you are 1 of them
[18:27] <gremble> I need to go find out where I can beg for a linux account there
[18:27] <kulelu88> Carry Kaali on a flash and you're good
[18:27] <gremble> Yes, but only windows machines
[18:27] <pieter2627> hi Kilos 
[18:27] <gremble> I have WST so I get to code in SAS
[18:27] <kulelu88> Just make sure you avoid the rooms with cameras
[18:27] <gremble> :'(
[18:28] <kulelu88> Did Basson take you first year?
[18:29] <gremble> Dr Basson? Numerical Analysis?
[18:30] <kulelu88> it was an old woman with short hair
[18:30] <gremble> No idea who that is, so I guess not :P
[18:30] <kulelu88> Which COS did you do?
[18:31] <gremble> 132, 151, 110, 121 I think
[18:32] <kulelu88> 110 and 121 were the rape modules
[18:32] <kulelu88> I heard of guys doing 110 in 2010 and still doing it in 2012 :D
[18:32] <gremble> I did not do the 110 project so they failed me, even though I got 92 and 98 for the two semester tests
[18:33] <kulelu88> so you're a C++ legend
[18:33] <kulelu88> I think I'd still fail varsity CS
[18:33] <gremble> 121 was alright when I stopped being lazy and actually spent some time learning why there are certain archetypes
[18:33] <kulelu88> I'm not wired like a programmer :(
[18:33] <gremble> 121 was the most valuable subject for me out of all of those
[18:34] <gremble> Taught be to think about what I am trying to do
[18:34] <gremble> sometimes I also think I am not either, and other times it just works
[18:34] <kulelu88> it only works in Python for me
[18:34] <gremble> It sucks because I feel extremely flaky
[18:35] <kulelu88> They'll be 1 of the last varsities to teach programming in Python
[18:35] <kulelu88> anti-OS cunts
[18:35] <kulelu88> +D
[18:36] <gremble> If the algorithms course wasn't in Java, I would still be doing CS
[18:36] <kulelu88> they still teach Java?????????
[18:36] <gremble> Yup
[18:36] <gremble> Everything after first year C++ is Java
[18:36] <kulelu88> that's an epic fail
[18:36] <gremble> it is fucking weird
[18:36] <gremble> They don't even touch on functional programming
[18:37] <gremble> Oh. I shouldn't swear
[18:37] <gremble> Sorry
[18:37] <MaNI> sounds more like a corporate java programmer sweatshop than a university
[18:37] <kulelu88> you can consider them as a feeder-varsity for soulless bank jobs
[18:37] <kulelu88> on the dot, MaNI 
[18:37] <gremble> Pretty much
[18:38] <gremble> :x
[18:38] <kulelu88> I wonder if they will fail you for coding the software in a project in your own language
[18:38] <gremble> Type theory, Proof theory, Category theory... they touch on none of that
[18:38] <MaNI> makes me feel less bad about my unisa experience
[18:39] <gremble> formal systems like lambda calculus? forget it
[18:39] <kulelu88> MaNI: Doesn't UNISA do C#?
[18:39] <MaNI> I thought unisa sucked, but sounds better than this
[18:39] <MaNI> kulelu88, not while I was there don't know about now
[18:39] <kulelu88> I think this is why UCT is winner in CS. they do Python and are more open to programming
[18:39] <MaNI> languages I did at unisa in various courses pascal/delphi/c/c++/asm/prolog
[18:39] <kulelu88> *is the
[18:40] <MaNI> but times may have changed :)
[18:40] <gremble> I worked myself into a stuper while doing CS first year. My girlfriend at the time would get so exhasperated with me, because I would be up doing projects until 4-5am haha
[18:40] <MaNI> oh and java was in there somewhere as well
[18:40] <kulelu88> On that note, Delphi is now the only language they teach in high school
[18:40] <gremble> No more Java?
[18:40] <gremble> Borland must be excited. I can't think who else would buy licences :P
[18:41] <kulelu88> yeah, there was some cockup where the company behind the dying Delphi made a plan with the department
[18:41] <MaNI> embarcardo you mean
[18:41] <MaNI> delphi has switched hands about 20 times since borland :p
[18:41] <gremble> Oh shit
[18:41] <gremble> haha
[18:41] <gremble> I used it in 2008 last and then we used Borland delphi
[18:41] <MaNI> hehe, borland were quite an entity at a stage
[18:41] <MaNI> they had the best c compiler as well
[18:42] <kulelu88> borland C? I've heard of that
[18:42] <kulelu88> I now hang around fringe languages. Weird shit that varsities will never touch
[18:43] <gremble> What languages do you like kulelu88 ? :P
[18:43] <kulelu88> Check this one: #crystal-language
[18:43] <kulelu88> gremble: I'm also starting my own language :D
[18:44] <gremble> With blackjack and hookers?
[18:44] <kulelu88> 1 language to rule them all muhahahaha
[18:44] <kulelu88> it's not compiled, it's not interpreted
[18:45] <gremble> its evolved into a special purpose CPU?
[18:45] <kulelu88> it runs in ternary state
[18:45] <kulelu88> built for quantum computing
[18:46] <kulelu88> you don't write code, you use your brain impulses
[18:46] <gremble> I know jack shit about quantum computing, and as far as I can gather even the quantum computing experts share that much
[18:46] <kulelu88> brb
[18:47] <MaNI> isn't quantam computing just an elaborate hoax to get lots of research money? :p
[18:47] <gremble> Hahaha
[18:47] <gremble> Who knows :P
[18:52] <gremble> I like the fact that haskell is both compiled and interpreted
[18:52] <gremble> it is pretty cool
[19:27] <kulelu88> ping
[19:28] <gremble> welcome back
[19:31] <kulelu88> danke 
[19:32] <gremble> It is probably about time I did a reinstall on this machine haha
[19:32] <kulelu88> time to install systemd heh!
[19:32] <gremble> When I reboot systemd howls at me because of all kinds of misconfigurations that it did
[19:33] <kulelu88> I always knew it was a PoS software
[19:33] <gremble> I'm thinking about moving to voidlinux, but I don't know if I want to sit with the effort of manual compilation of my packages
[19:33] <kulelu88> backtrack to 14.04
[19:33] <gremble> I use Arch
[19:33] <kulelu88> you mean shitLinux
[19:34] <kulelu88> :D
[19:34] <gremble> Nope. So far it has treated me better than Ubuntu or debian 
[19:34] <gremble> It's my preferred distro
[19:34] <kulelu88> Xubuntu has never failed me 
[19:35] <gremble> Even that is too big for this system
[19:35] <gremble> hah
[19:35] <gremble> I run on the bare minimum
[19:35] <kulelu88> how much ram?
[19:35] <gremble> 1.8 I think
[19:35] <kulelu88> that
[19:35] <kulelu88> that's more than enough for xubuntu
[19:35] <gremble> And nothing else
[19:36] <kulelu88> else? like?
[19:36] <gremble> Chrome
[19:36] <gremble> ha
[19:36] <gremble> I make joke. Chrome wants 2GB all to its lonesome almost :P
[19:36] <kulelu88> :-/
[19:37] <gremble> I'm quite happy to just run my terminals 
[19:57] <magespawn> back, load shedding done
[19:58] <gremble> welcome back
[20:00] <magespawn> ty
[20:00] <magespawn> was actually asleep, till the boss called about his adsl
[20:01] <gremble> that bastard
[20:02] <gremble> :P
[20:02] <magespawn> lol
[20:02] <gremble> This weekend we have loadshedding between 8 and 10. :/
[20:03] <gremble> On stage 3 we have from 04:00 - 06:30 and 06:00 - 08:30 on tuesday mornings. They fucked up their scheduling haha
[20:03] <gremble> It also means that there is no way that I am going to varsity if I have to wake up at 05:00 and there is no electricty
[20:05] <magespawn> gremble: are you studying or teaching?
[20:06] <gremble> Studying. I wouldn't mind teaching
[20:06] <gremble> But I am probably not informed enough yet 
[20:06] <gremble> :P
[20:06] <magespawn> nice, what may i ask/
[20:06] <magespawn> ?
[20:07] <gremble> I study mathematics
[20:07] <gremble> With the intent to apply it to either the study of formal systems or some other field in theoretical computer science
[20:08] <magespawn> nice anticipation there
[20:09] <gremble> If there is anything that life has taught me is that my anticipations are usually incorrect. Haha. I've made sure that I am know something about physics, programming, operating systems, even electrical engineering. 
[20:10] <gremble> If all else fails, I can write for a newspaper haha
[20:11] <magespawn> or for a website, they seem to need writers
[20:11] <magespawn> maybe start your own
[20:11] <magespawn> do comics for xkcd
[20:12] <gremble> Working on that. The website thing. My mother is an out of work occupational therapist. So I want to see if I can publish her book on a website and see if we can generate some work for her
[20:12] <magespawn> what is that in lay terms?
[20:13] <gremble> If you accidentally cut off your arm shaving, she is the person that you go to that teaches you how to do your job with the arm that you have left
[20:14] <gremble> However, she specialises in childhood development. School readiness, making sure that the kids develop proper visio-spacio awareness etc
[20:16] <magespawn> i see
[20:17] <magespawn> does she have the book written already?
[20:17] <gremble> Yup
[20:17] <gremble> Couldn't get it published because the publishers didn't feel that there is a market for it
[20:18] <magespawn> any of the traditional publishers... good anticipation there again
[20:19] <gremble> I sort of agree with them. It is more of a textbook for early childhood development than really a book that would sell in Exclusive Books
[20:20] <magespawn> i see then it might be a good idea to market to that group of people who need that sort of book
[20:21] <magespawn> nursery school teachers, would be good to get it included as course material for a degree or other qualification
[20:22] <gremble> Yes. At the moment I am trying to think up a sustainable business plan, while trying to get her to sit down and revise the text and add some new research, seeing as I have access to UP's library of journal databases
[20:23] <magespawn> get some other people to read it who would be able to review it as an athorative source
[20:23] <magespawn> spelling is bad there
[20:23] <magespawn> authorative
[20:23] <magespawn> not too sure
[20:23] <gremble> Yup. Authorative is fine :P
[20:25] <magespawn> peer review, sort of thing
[20:28] <magespawn> a friend of mine is working at rhodes completing her master/docterate in education, i can put you touch with her if you would like
[20:31] <gremble> That is probably not a bad idea. Let me talk with my mother tomorrow and see if I can make a fire under her and then I will shoot you a mail? If you don't mind sending me your email address
[20:33] <magespawn> check the pm
[20:34] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight
[20:34] <gremble> Good night kilose
[20:34] <Kilos> lol
[20:34] <gremble> lol
[20:35] <magespawn> good night Kilos 
[20:35] <gremble> I should stay with tab complete
[20:35] <Kilos> yeah
[20:35] <Kilos> keep well guys
[20:35] <Kilos> bed time for ballies
[20:36] <gremble> Thanks magespawn. I will send you mail. I need to get this ball rolling
[20:36] <magespawn> cool beans, if there is another way i can help let me know
[20:39] <gremble> Same sentiment. If you ever need something integrated or need someone to explain Heideggers phenomenological ontology, I'm your man.
[20:39] <gremble> #marketableskills
[20:39] <magespawn> indeed
[20:40] <magespawn> i will have to google that first to even have idea of what i am asking
[20:41] <gremble> It is just large words because Heidegger was a twat that thought that everyday language could not be used to explain philosphical concepts. Ontology is the study of being, as in the verb. What it means to be what you are, whether it be a human or a chair. 
[20:42] <magespawn> okay then
[20:42] <gremble> Phenomenological is a really ugly neologism, word built up of other words, to mean phenomenon, as in things that you experience
[20:43] <gremble> So it means the study of what it means to be in relation to everyday experiences
[20:44] <magespawn> that is all a bit much, for this time of night
[20:44] <gremble> Haha sorry :P
[20:46] <magespawn> any way, let us continue this on another day, perhaps when the brain is in the right time zone
[20:47] <gremble> Thanks for bouncing ideas my way earlier. Good to have a fresh prespective
[20:48] <magespawn> that is the one thing i am relatively good at, bouncing
[20:49] <magespawn> hmm google returns only 360 000 pages for that search, and most of them scholarly articales
[20:50] <gremble> plato.standford.edu is a good website for those kinds of things. Anything tangenially philosophical. You can even read about set theory and lambda calculus there
[20:50] <kulelu88> you're inventing words now gremble 
[20:51] <magespawn> gremble time of night, please, brain is pretty fried already
[20:51] <gremble> Haha 
[20:51] <magespawn> not the time to get into philosophy
[20:52] <gremble> http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/heidegger/#BeiWor but don't read this now. or ever actually
[20:53] <magespawn> not unless the answer is 42
[20:53] <kulelu88> magespawn: we're generation Y, this time of the night is midday ;)
[20:54] <gremble> If my day could start at 16:00 and end at 06:00 I would be so happy
[20:54] <magespawn> not for those of use who have to wrok tomorrow, i always thought i was gen x
[20:54] <magespawn> s/wrok/work
[20:54] <kulelu88> ironically, that is how my day starts
[20:55] <kulelu88> but its kak cold in the early morning
[20:55] <magespawn> kulelu88: how is that? 
[20:56] <magespawn> that depends on where you are, around here it is nicely cool, at this time of year
[20:56] <kulelu88> where's here? magespawn 
[20:56] <magespawn> hluhluwe
[20:56] <kulelu88> oh ja, you're the KZN guy?
[20:56] <gremble> At 5am it is fine in pretoria. When it gets to 7:30 it is freezing
[20:56] <magespawn> not the only one
[20:56] <kulelu88> you lucky dog. Go surf or something
[20:57] <magespawn> now that is ironic, i hardly get to the sea
[20:57] <magespawn> and i am looking to move back up to gauteng 
[20:58] <kulelu88> hopefully to sleepytoria
[20:59] <magespawn> according to the official definition i am gen x
[20:59] <magespawn> hah obviously never been to hluhluwe
[20:59] <magespawn> pretoria is going to feel like new york after here
[20:59] <kulelu88> are you near the coast or inland KZN?
[21:00] <magespawn> hluhluwe is relatively close to the cost, directly, but to get there i have travel about 100km or so
[21:01] <magespawn> about 3 hours north of durban
[21:01] <kulelu88> why did you settle there and not Ballito?
[21:01] <magespawn> towards mozambique
[21:01] <magespawn> i was working as a field guide at the time i cam down
[21:01] <magespawn> s/cam/came
[21:02] <DalekSec> superfly: https://ubuntu-za.org > logo/big button next to 'Home' directs you to http:// when using https://
[21:02] <superfly> DalekSec: thanks
[21:03] <magespawn> hey superfly, you are supposed to asleep
[21:03] <kulelu88> big news for capetonians. woothemes got acquired by automattic
[21:03] <gremble> woothemes? what?
[21:03] <magespawn> never heard of either of them
[21:04] <kulelu88> you guys don't know ehh? 
[21:04] <magespawn> nope
[21:04] <kulelu88> multi-million dollar company in CPT. superfly should be aware
[21:05] <superfly> I know of WooThemes, wasn't entirely aware they were CPT, but makes sense.
[21:05] <gremble> "woothemes" wordpress theme and plugin provider?
[21:05] <superfly> I imagine so.
[21:05] <magespawn> woothemes.com
[21:05] <kulelu88> yeah
[21:05] <magespawn> i did not think there was that much money in wordpress themes
[21:05] <magespawn> wow
[21:06] <kulelu88> how am I the only 1 who knows this :-/
[21:06] <gremble> Their website is not reactive
[21:06] <kulelu88> they do commerce also. woocommerce
[21:06] <gremble> Doesn't say much about their themes :P
[21:06] <kulelu88> http://www.woothemes.com/2015/05/woothemes-joins-automattic/
[21:07] <magespawn> kulelu88: no idea, there are deals happening all the time
[21:08] <magespawn> whoops see now the bost has left in a huff
[21:08] <magespawn> s/bost/bot
[21:09] <kulelu88> it's a big thing for acquisitions in our dry market
[21:09] <kulelu88> but they were never really a local company
[21:10] <magespawn> that is my que too, good night all chat later
[21:19] <gremble> I think I am going to do the sleep thing to
[21:19] <gremble> Cheers
[21:19] <superfly> me too
[21:19] <superfly> kulelu88: I vaguely recall something of the sort, but I am not a WordPress fan, so I tend to steer clear of it
[21:20] <kulelu88> take care guys