[00:04] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to give apache write permissions to a folder?
[00:04] <daftykins> yes
[00:04] <daftykins> what are you trying to set up?
[00:05] <OerHeks> chown it to www-data i guess
[00:06] <VanDerGroot> wp-content/uploads perhaps?
[00:06] <daftykins> well we can all guess :)
[00:08] <daftykins> kokut: ?
[00:10] <aimnano> well i hosed that VM
[00:10] <daftykins> lucky they can be backed up!
[00:10] <aimnano> so after i restore it from a backup, who knows how to resize a LUKS partition
[00:10] <daftykins> not me
[00:10] <aimnano> not only that, it's BIOS, and i want to extend it over 2TB aka i have to convert it to GPT without breaking it?
[00:11] <aimnano> is this even possible?
[00:11] <daftykins> only a boot volume need be GPT over 2.xTB
[00:14] <aimnano> well it is a boot volume
[00:14] <aimnano> it's basic ubuntu partition layout (with LVM)
[00:14] <aimnano> (and LUKS)
[00:14] <aimnano> i think it's only 2: swap and root
[00:15] <daftykins> right but a VM? so anything can be changed
[00:15] <daftykins> anyway nm i don't do encryption
[00:15] <Johnny_Linux> good LUK
[00:15] <aimnano> lol
[00:15] <guest211211> ok so
[00:16] <guest211211> i installed the mini iso
[00:16] <guest211211> it asked me to remove my boot media, so i did, the system restarted
[00:16] <guest211211> and now im at a black screen with a white blinking cursor. should i reboot again or just wait more?
[00:16] <daftykins> hit enter a few times
[00:16] <daftykins> see if anything becomes visible
[00:16] <aimnano> it doesn't sound like it successfully installed GRUB
[00:16] <aimnano> did you tell it not to?
[00:16] <aimnano> (bootloader)
[00:17] <daftykins> that'd be unlikely since the system would print a boot error message surely
[00:17] <guest211211> i told it to go ahead and install grub
[00:17] <guest211211> should i reboot?
[00:17] <daftykins> no harm in trying
[00:17] <daftykins> but hit a few keys as i say
[00:18] <guest211211> rebooting jsut takes me to that same screen
[00:18] <guest211211> ugh
[00:18] <guest211211> should i pop the usb back in?
[00:18] <daftykins> hold left shift as it boots
[00:18] <daftykins> see if you get the GRUB menu
[00:18] <daftykins> and you haven't replied about my suggestion to press keys?
[00:18] <guest211211> sorry, thought i did. i tried hitting a bunch of keys
[00:19] <guest211211> shift also didnt work
[00:19] <daftykins> ok try both shifts (one at a time) and also escape
[00:19] <daftykins> as in repeatedly, rapidly press them
[00:20] <linuxuz3r> how do i use libboost properly
[00:20] <linuxuz3r> please help
[00:20] <guest211211> neither shift works, esc takes me to boot device
[00:21] <guest211211> im going to try reinstalling
[00:21] <daftykins> hit enter on the hard disk then hit escape again
[00:21] <daftykins> no, you give up too easy
[00:21] <daftykins> EriC^^: ^^
[00:22] <guest211211> ok hitting enter just takes it to the black screen with blinking cursor and then hitting esc from that point does nothing
[00:22] <daftykins> no you have to do it quickly
[00:23] <daftykins> try the shift keys again after powering off fully
[00:26] <Ender_Wiggin> Hey hey. I'm having display issues with my 14.04. Did some fiddling around with xrandr and tried multiple drivers, but kept issues. Right now, if I use the current X.org nuevo driver (Nvidia GT 520), I get a blank screen after BIOS boot and have to reboot and select to launch Ubuntu from GRUB menu. When I switched to the latest Nvidia driver, I no longer have to boot twice, but both drivers lock the display resolution to 800x600
[00:27] <Ender_Wiggin> nouveau*
[00:27] <Bashing-om> guest211211: MBR booting grub looks for the shift key, UEFI looks for the escape key . press escape repeatedly as soon as the firmware screen clears . Maybe ?
[00:27] <LeEarl> hello guys
[00:27] <Ender_Wiggin> Currently running Nvidia 331.113 from Additional Drivers
[00:28] <LeEarl> is it true the kde is made with qt and gnome is made with glide?
[00:28] <LeEarl> and if so then how to make a pure x gui app?
[00:30] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: so right now you're in, but @ 800x600?
[00:30] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: what type of monitor and which kind of cable connection?
[00:30] <Ender_Wiggin> Hey dafty =]
[00:30] <Ender_Wiggin> Yep
[00:31] <Ender_Wiggin> Viewsonic 21" LCD DVI, 1680x1024 max res i believe
[00:31] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:31] <Hilikus> what is the "quiet splash" option on grub's parameters?
[00:31] <daftykins> 1680x1050 mmk
[00:31] <daftykins> Hilikus: suppress boot messages (quiet) and display splash screen (splash - via plymouth)
[00:31] <guest211211> hitting esc does bgring up the BOOT device screen. i can choose either one of the boot devices which just leads tot hat black screen
[00:31] <Hilikus> daftykins: can i use spash without quiet?? it doesn't make much sense
[00:31] <Ender_Wiggin> Im currnetly using the Nvidia driver, still want a pastebin from Xorg.o.log?
[00:31] <guest211211> i think i can also enter bios (the usb is NOT plugged in currently)
[00:32] <daftykins> Hilikus: not since it'd be in the way of the messages i suspect :> why not just use GRUB at boot time and edit the boot parameters to try once
[00:32] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: yep
[00:32] <Hilikus> daftykins: ah ok, will try that. thank you
[00:32] <Ender_Wiggin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11215431/
[00:32] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: also if you would paste "lspci | pastebinit"
[00:33] <Ender_Wiggin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11215433/
[00:33] <daftykins> ah yes failed to read EDID from display, common one that
[00:33] <daftykins> are you using any form of cable adapter, or is it directly DVI to DVI?
[00:33] <Ender_Wiggin> is it fixable?
[00:34] <Ender_Wiggin> no adapter, DVI - DVI
[00:34] <Bashing-om> guest211211: What release did you install ? and with a desk top ? Maybe we can boot with the boot parameter "nomodeset" ??
[00:35] <daftykins> weird. ok first up, power off the computer - pull the mains power supply cable to the LCD, let it stay off for a minute, reseat the cable and then power on the screen and reset it to factory defaults. then fire up the PC again and see if it changes
[00:35] <guest211211> 14.04
[00:35] <guest211211> its on a laptop
[00:35] <guest211211> i  cant even GET to grub though is the thing
[00:36] <daftykins> guest211211: my message was to Ender_Wiggin
[00:36] <Ender_Wiggin> kk
[00:36] <guest211211> got it
[00:38] <guest211211> hey hey
[00:38] <guest211211> I DID SOMETHING
[00:38] <guest211211> I THINK I GOT IT WORKING
[00:38] <norlane> hihi
[00:38] <Bashing-om> guest211211: Try; Boot in CCSM (legacy) mode , and as soon as the bios screen clears depress and hold the shift key . Do you now get grub boot menu ?/// Great ^^
[00:38] <guest211211> i plugged the usb in, hit enter, tried to enter the USB, mashed osme letters like what daftykins suggested, and im back at a login screen
[00:38] <guest211211> it says Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Icarus ttyl (i named the computer Icarus during installation)
[00:38] <daftykins> nice
[00:39] <guest211211> ok so
[00:39] <guest211211> I think I might have not installed Ubuntu desktop? but i got ubuntu
[00:39] <Bashing-om> guest211211: OK, Thst is the minimal install right ? Now to install the aps you want to use ??
[00:39] <guest211211> im logged in and now its like, username@icarus:~$
[00:40] <daftykins> now you need a network connection
[00:40] <daftykins> preferably wired
[00:40] <guest211211> if i go wired i wont be able to stay in contact with you
[00:40] <daftykins> why, one cable?
[00:41] <Bashing-om> guest211211: Problem is that the minimal install only supports wired on the initial install .
[00:42] <EriC^^> guest211211: great
[00:42] <guest211211> no, im on a desktop which is downstairs and the connection is UPSTAIRS
[00:42] <daftykins> so go plug it in :)
[00:43] <guest211211> oooooookay
[00:43] <JinjaNinja> This may be a noob question, but I seriously need to know. My laptop used to hold up to 7-8 hours of battery life (when I was running Windows 8), now my battery dies faster. Maybe there isn't a difference of battery lifetimes, maybe I'm just remembering wrong. Is there a way to increase battery life/ see if the battery is being used inefficiently?
[00:43] <JinjaNinja> (Running ubuntu)
[00:43] <Johnny_Linux> el oh el
[00:43] <Johnny_Linux> sheesh
[00:43] <EriC^^> JinjaNinja: there's powertop
[00:43] <daftykins> Windows will pretty much always give better battery life
[00:43] <guest211211> ok laptop is plugged in, what command
[00:44] <EriC^^> guest211211: which desktop would you like to install?
[00:44] <EriC^^> guest211211: i think the mini iso is supposed to ask that though?
[00:44] <JinjaNinja> EriC^^: Not aware of it. What is that?
[00:45] <daftykins> if i were you i'd "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" first
[00:45] <EriC^^> JinjaNinja: it's like top but for power i assume, never used it myself
[00:45] <daftykins> but bear in mind you likely won't have an IP from having plugged the network cable in after boot, so you might need to "sudo dhclient eth0" first
[00:45] <daftykins> yeah it's intel's prog for pointing out what's waking up the CPU and so on
[00:46] <guest211211> ok, so "sudo dhclient eth0" and then ""sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[00:46] <JinjaNinja> See, my laptop only gets 5-6 hours of battery life now. That concerns me a bit. I'll be using my Laptop throughout college, and I LOVE Ubuntu. I'd like to see better battery lifetimes though.
[00:47] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins ok reset to factory defaults. Still cant change resolution
[00:47] <daftykins> ok well it was worth a try
[00:48] <Ender_Wiggin> any other solution suggestions?
[00:48] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: you can either look up how to pull an EDID on Windows or Ubuntu and then use it in a xorg.conf, or you can look up how to add a resolution with xrandr
[00:48] <daftykins> _or_ you can try different nvidia drivers :)
[00:48] <daftykins> as i think you only mentioned 304 and 331
[00:48] <JinjaNinja> I know 5-6 hours is "Okay" But that's not an option for me, I love seeing my technology at it's peak battery lifetimes.
[00:49] <daftykins> JinjaNinja: not gonna happen off Windows.
[00:49] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins, yeah i tried all the drivers available from Additional Drivers
[00:49] <Ender_Wiggin> I attempted to add resolutions through Xrandr as well
[00:49] <daftykins> to what end?
[00:49] <JinjaNinja> I wonder if I could just get a stronger battery :P
[00:49] <Ender_Wiggin> no effect, as far as i know
[00:49] <Ender_Wiggin> is there a way to view the Xrandr resolutions?
[00:49] <Ender_Wiggin> as in what's been added
[00:50] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: well you need to add it then select it, right now i'm sure it has nothing above 800x600 - run "xrandr | pastebinit"
[00:51] <Ender_Wiggin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11215609/
[00:52] <Ender_Wiggin> i can try to readd the resolution, can ya link me to a guide?
[00:52] <daftykins> no i can't, as we can both google :)
[00:52] <daftykins> you seem to be connected to DVI-1 now
[00:52] <daftykins> and not DVI 0
[00:53] <Ender_Wiggin> should I change that?
[00:53] <daftykins> yip
[00:53] <Ender_Wiggin> I never moved it before
[00:53] <Ender_Wiggin> theres only 1 DVI port on the monitor actually
[00:53] <daftykins> this is in relation to the card.
[00:53] <Ender_Wiggin> same
[00:54] <guest211211> daftykins, did you see the order of commands i asked were ok?
[00:55] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: hrmm i'd look in nvidia-settings for any res adding, or see something like - http://sammart.in/2012/05/29/enabling-resolutions-in-ubuntu-12-04-lubuntu-12-04/
[00:55] <daftykins> just remember it's 1680x1050 - but boot Windows to confirm if available. or just look up the LCD model
[00:56] <guest211211> daftykins ok, so "sudo dhclient eth0" and then ""sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[00:56] <Ender_Wiggin> i can confirm its 1680x1050 from manual and previous resolution set at that on this machine
[00:56] <daftykins> don't run the first bit just because, only run it if the latter doesn't work
[00:56] <guest211211> ok, gog it
[00:58] <Bashing-om> guest211211: Cjeck that networking is up after the 'dhcp' command ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com '. Then update .
[00:58] <daftykins> this guy is gonna be up and down stairs ;)
[00:59] <Johnny_Linux> he will be in shape by morning
[00:59] <MadBro> Dude, Ubuntu Gnome get your shit together! http://i.imgur.com/1NZpYe9.png WTF?? Its been like this forever
[00:59] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins I get this error http://pastebin.com/rtyCvE1G
[00:59] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Now that might make for a long night , huh ?
[00:59] <daftykins> !language | MadBro nobody here is responsible for whatever woes you are facing
[01:00] <MadBro> Yes Ubuntu Gnome is responsible because it's their product and I just installed it and I am not able to update anything.
[01:00] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: is it one of these funny 144Hz displays ?
[01:01] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins the manual says 60hz
[01:01] <Ender_Wiggin> its an old monitor
[01:01] <guest211211> bashing-om ok so i should now go in and enter what command? "dhcp ping -c3 ubuntu.com
[01:01] <daftykins> MadBro: no i'm saying don't bring your attitude here because no *user* in here is responsible.
[01:01] <Ender_Wiggin> http://www.go-gddq.com/upload/2011-07/11071517474854.pdf
[01:01] <daftykins> oh it's MHz anyway
[01:01] <guest211211> i downloaded a ton of files i think, it said 0 files changed, removed, updated, downloaded or whatever but i saw LOTS Of lines of code that were like, HIT datacenter.us or something like that
[01:01] <Ender_Wiggin> ah sorry
[01:02] <daftykins> guest211211: yes that's normal
[01:02] <MadBro> @daftykins Got you but I don't have an attitude, I'm pissed off at this problem I'm getting for no reason at all. I chose fulll disk encryption and it encrypted my swap partition so now it's causing me not to be able to update.
[01:02] <MadBro> I've never had this problem before until 15.04
[01:02] <Ender_Wiggin> ok so actually looks like it goes up to 1680x1050 85x 93.9hz
[01:02] <daftykins> poor you
[01:03] <MadBro> @daftykins Go fuck yourself dude
[01:03] <daftykins> MadBro: well now that's just rude!
[01:03] <Ender_Wiggin> MadBro heasy dude
[01:03] <Bashing-om> guest211211: OK, ypu should be good with networking then . Sp What do tou want for a desk top as EriC^^ asked ?
[01:03] <guest211211> alright daftykins (i'm still figuring out IRC, i assume saying your full name just pings you and shows the message in red so you dont have to search for it), what should i input next
[01:03] <MadBro> @daftykinds Seems tome you have the attitude here
[01:03] <guest211211> oh sorry, i would like the ubuntu desktop please
[01:03] <Ender_Wiggin> MadBro he really doesnt.
[01:03] <guest211211> MadBro I understand you're upset but getting mad's not going to solve anything, and pissing off the people here realllly isn't goingt to help you at all
[01:03] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: i don't know anymore than you about getting xrandr to accept that command, i'd read the man page or find another guide perhaps - dunno
[01:04] <Ender_Wiggin> hes one of the most helpful dudes in this channel.
[01:04] <daftykins> he quite literally is Mad Bro :(
[01:04] <guest211211> now i'm laughing because someone named "mad bro is m"
[01:04] <Ender_Wiggin> haha yup
[01:04] <guest211211> you said it
[01:04] <MadBro> @Ender_Wiggin he was sarcastic to me for no apparent reason, you don't call that tude?
[01:04] <Ender_Wiggin> sarcasm is the wine of conversation, you sip it, not chug it.
[01:04] <MadBro> He can go fuck himself
[01:04] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: oh it wouldn't hurt to try 1680 1050 59 - sometimes they're 59Hz
[01:04] <Bashing-om> !tab | guest211211
[01:05] <Ender_Wiggin> kk
[01:05] <guest211211> oh ok, thanks
[01:05] <guest211211> Bashing-om: i'd like the ubuntu desktop
[01:06] <Ender_Wiggin> same error, ill look into it
[01:06] <MadBro> I'm out faggots
[01:06] <Ender_Wiggin> are you MadBro?
[01:07] <MadBro> No you're mother is because I never called
[01:07] <MadBro> your*
[01:07] <guest211211> MadBro: are you twelve?
[01:07] <Ender_Wiggin> ^
[01:07] <MadBro> Are you?
[01:07] <guest211211> No, I'm a big boy.
[01:07] <Ender_Wiggin> Just ignore, he'll get tired of talking to a wall.
[01:07] <guest211211> I go pee pee standing up.
[01:07] <MadBro> 12 x 2
[01:07] <EriC^^> MadBro: you disappoint, missed an obvious that's what she said joke
[01:08] <Bashing-om> EriC^^:  guest211211 :: If we install "ubuntu-desktop" do we also 1st need to install the DM "lightdm" ??
[01:08] <EriC^^> =\
[01:08] <daftykins> Bashing-om: nah it's a meta package that'll pull it all in
[01:10] <EriC^^> i found a cool command the other day, sudo ubuntu-drivers devices
[01:10] <EriC^^> it's like additional drivers but cli, handy if no gui is booting and nomodeset isn't working
[01:10] <Bashing-om> guest211211: ^^, Then I guess it is time for ' sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ' ; see what happens .
[01:10] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins attempted to input without Hz, got this error http://pastebin.com/ie0Xa6hi
[01:11] <daftykins> EriC^^: yip! they renamed jockey a while back afaik
[01:11] <Ender_Wiggin> and tried newmode
[01:11] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: i really don't know, wouldn't hurt to try skipping those two as well i guess.
[01:11] <daftykins> i've not had to deal with bad EDIDs personally, thankfully
[01:12] <guest211211> alright! lets hope for the best
[01:14] <JinjaNinja> I want to use the function keys on my keyboard. The problem is, not all of the "function keys"... Function. **Bud dum tss**
[01:14] <BlackPearl> Folks. Can someone assist in getting me a registration code?
[01:14] <Exploiter-h4x0r> hi i am l33t exploiter
[01:14] <Exploiter-h4x0r> need help?
[01:14] <Exploiter-h4x0r> ##worldhacker.iso World Hacker International Association
[01:15] <daftykins> Exploiter-h4x0r: no thanks please leave.
[01:15] <Exploiter-h4x0r> u developing kernel?/
[01:15] <guest211211> ok guys, i inputted the code on the laptop and i think its currently installing
[01:15] <guest211211> i gotta move my desktop so i'm going to disconnect, i'll reconnect in a moment
[01:16] <JinjaNinja> daftykins: Would you know how to make certain function keys work, if it's not an ACPI key?
[01:16] <daftykins> no
[01:16] <Exploiter-h4x0r> is not acpi key
[01:16] <daftykins> please address the channel rather than users
[01:16] <Exploiter-h4x0r> acpi just a checker of firmware
[01:16] <Exploiter-h4x0r> keyboard is pci
[01:16] <Exploiter-h4x0r> check it
[01:17] <Exploiter-h4x0r> ubuntu is my code
[01:17] <Exploiter-h4x0r> :p
[01:17] <Exploiter-h4x0r> what do u think gay
[01:17] <Exploiter-h4x0r> daftyskins
[01:17] <Exploiter-h4x0r> u though ure winer?
[01:17] <LeEarl> Exploiter-h4x0r! u nutz?
[01:18] <Exploiter-h4x0r> no i am l33t
[01:18] <cjuo> Hello all - I'm, at present, using xubuntu, but as the machine is elderly, wanting to move to lubuntu for better performance. I just transferred all my files and bookmarks to a usb and am now intending to install the new OS over top of the old one. Anything else I should be doing, or files I might be forgetting? Any suggestings or insights would be welcome.
[01:18] <Exploiter-h4x0r> nut  is that ubuntu ceo
[01:18] <Exploiter-h4x0r> daftykins
[01:18] <Exploiter-h4x0r> i am yohanes patra
[01:18] <Exploiter-h4x0r> father of all OS
[01:19] <EriC^^> i read that pocahantes at first
[01:19]  * EriC^^ wishes he said that
[01:19] <JinjaNinja> Exploiter-h4x0r: Actually, if you do an acpi_listen on terminal and press 'FN' + (Any function key), terminal listens to see if that key launches an 'ACPI' event
[01:19] <sebastian_> with what terminal command
[01:19] <LeEarl> Exploiter-h4x0r, u heard of Hamza Bendellaj? http://www.fbi.gov/atlanta/press-releases/2013/algerian-national-extradited-from-thailand-to-face-federal-cyber-crime-charges-in-atlanta-for-spyeye-virus
[01:19] <sebastian_> can i check what kind of microprocessor i have
[01:19] <LeEarl> He was one tough guy
[01:19] <sebastian_> what can i type on the terminal so i know what kind of microprocessor i have
[01:20] <daftykins> sebastian_: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:20] <LeEarl> Exploiter-h4x0r, so for every NUT there is a CRACKER, Mr. Xploitah
[01:20]  * JinjaNinja shots fired...
[01:21] <LeEarl> Exploiter-h4x0r, u better start counting your nutZ before BSing a lot.
[01:21]  * JinjaNinja nuke dropped...
 what can i type on the terminal so i know what kind of microprocessor i have --> dmesg | grep processor
[01:21] <LeEarl> Exploiter-h4x0r, u wanna keep them in a level where they IS neither too lil nor too much
[01:21] <Exploiter-h4x0r> LE EARL
[01:21] <sebastian_> is Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz good?
[01:21] <Exploiter-h4x0r> u sure u don'' know me
[01:21] <JinjaNinja> Sebastian, thats very good.
[01:22] <Exploiter-h4x0r> said to fbi
[01:22] <Exploiter-h4x0r> who is yohanes patra
[01:22] <Exploiter-h4x0r> if they dare
[01:22] <JinjaNinja> That's an i7 intel core processor.
[01:22] <JinjaNinja> That's a very good processor.
[01:22] <Exploiter-h4x0r> even to America Supreme Court too
[01:22] <Exploiter-h4x0r> or swat
[01:22] <LeEarl> who is Johannes Petra?
[01:22] <Exploiter-h4x0r> call them in
[01:22] <Exploiter-h4x0r> Yohanes Patra
[01:22] <Exploiter-h4x0r> who live in metra
[01:23] <Exploiter-h4x0r> pekanbaru
[01:23] <Exploiter-h4x0r> indonesia
[01:23] <Exploiter-h4x0r> sudirman number 225
[01:23] <Exploiter-h4x0r> green gate
[01:23] <Exploiter-h4x0r> tell them if they dare
[01:24] <Exploiter-h4x0r> u can't talk right
[01:24] <Exploiter-h4x0r> if u said fuck just now
[01:24] <Exploiter-h4x0r> u become la junkie
[01:24] <sebastian_> ok
[01:24] <sebastian_> thank you!
[01:24] <Exploiter-h4x0r> u know that fbi la junkie code right
[01:24] <pavlos> sebastian_, you can also try, cat/proc/cpuinfo | grep name
[01:24] <LeEarl> Exploiter-h4x0r, how can a latin be asian! this is crazy https://immanuelyp.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/20130110_122336.jpg
[01:25] <LeEarl> Exploiter-h4x0r, is that ur son? r u married to some asian woman?
[01:25] <pavlos> sebastian_, there is a space after cat
[01:25] <JinjaNinja> Exploiter-h4x0r: if you do an acpi_listen on terminal and press 'FN' + (Any function key), terminal listens to see if that key launches an 'ACPI' event
[01:25] <sebastian_> I have a 17 inch screen, HP laptop, 1tb storage, 4gb ram, Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz, with integrated numeric right hand side keyboard, backlit keys, matte anti-reflexion screen, extra battery, logitech speakers included
[01:25] <sebastian_> is $1000 reasonable?
[01:25] <sebastian_> used of course
[01:25] <LeEarl> Exploiter-h4x0r, u r indonesian? I like kretek cigarettes! ;D
[01:26] <EriC^^> sebastian_: that sounds expensive i think
[01:26] <LeEarl> Exploiter-h4x0r, There is Sampoerna, L.A. djarum, Surya pro, Gundang Garam ;D
[01:26] <daftykins> sebastian_: you're in the wrong place for sales talk
[01:26] <Exploiter-h4x0r> haha
[01:26] <Exploiter-h4x0r> my cigarete is surya exclusive
[01:26] <sebastian_> what´s sell-able, then i leave the chat
[01:26] <Exploiter-h4x0r> and marlboro light nigger
[01:26] <Exploiter-h4x0r> :p
[01:27] <JinjaNinja> Woahhh...
[01:27] <LeEarl> Exploiter-h4x0r, I wish I can find some Djarum Black :/
[01:27] <Exploiter-h4x0r> yuxi is too expensive to make
[01:27] <JinjaNinja> Watch the language, tough guy.
[01:27] <Exploiter-h4x0r> no that bullshit
[01:27] <Exploiter-h4x0r> order from here
[01:27] <Exploiter-h4x0r> is just 5 buck
[01:27] <Exploiter-h4x0r> i know surya exclusive is casino nigger
[01:27] <Exploiter-h4x0r> remember if you want this cigarate
[01:28] <RedRabbit> and taste the worst..
[01:28] <Exploiter-h4x0r> always prepare malboro light mentol
[01:28] <Exploiter-h4x0r> because is polution + clover
[01:28] <Exploiter-h4x0r> ure dead
[01:28] <JinjaNinja> sebastian_: You should put 16 or 32 GiB RAM in to that bad boy ;D
[01:28] <Exploiter-h4x0r> marlboro mentol light
[01:28] <Exploiter-h4x0r> throw all you'r lung overdose and carbon dioxide
[01:28] <daftykins> !ops
[01:29] <Exploiter-h4x0r> rember that
[01:29] <Exploiter-h4x0r> wait i am searching for u
[01:29] <Exploiter-h4x0r> this is the yummy one
[01:29] <phunyguy> what
[01:29] <phunyguy> Exploiter-h4x0r: problem?
[01:29] <LeEarl> Exploiter-h4x0r, man this shxt is crazy http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dji_Sam_Soe
[01:30] <Exploiter-h4x0r> http://www.ciggiesworld.com/gudang-garam-surya-exclusive/
[01:30] <Exploiter-h4x0r> no
[01:30] <Exploiter-h4x0r> don't
[01:30] <phunyguy> Hey can we stay on topic here?  This is a support channel...
[01:30] <Exploiter-h4x0r> ure teeth is black asshole
[01:30] <Exploiter-h4x0r> that stupid
[01:30] <JinjaNinja> your intel core i7 processor could easily handle up to 32 GiB RAM, I'd imagine. I'd definitely love to use Ubuntu suite on that.
[01:30] <KindOne> phunyguy, just ban evaiding the last two bans against him.
[01:30] <Exploiter-h4x0r> always smoke filter
[01:30] <Exploiter-h4x0r> dji sam soe once a week
[01:30] <LeEarl> yeah there is filter
[01:31] <JinjaNinja> Someone kick or mute Exploiter-h4x0r ;P
[01:31] <phunyguy> I just did......
[01:32] <phunyguy> Please carry on with support.
[01:32] <JinjaNinja> Whoops.
[01:32] <JinjaNinja> Yes, so as I was saying, I need some help getting some non-ACPI event function keys to work on Ubuntu.
[01:34] <JinjaNinja> For instance, I'd love to be able to turn up/ down the brightness with my function keys. Example:  'FN' + 'F4' (or) 'F5', to turn brightness up and down.
[01:36] <JinjaNinja>  
[01:43] <lssche> alou
[01:45] <hghg> Hullo - trying to install lubuntu 14.04.2 and want disk encryption and disk-overwrite (of empty space). But get error message  :
[01:45] <hghg> An unsafe swap space has been detected.  This is a fatal error since sensitive data could be written out to disk unencrypted. This would allow someone with access to the disk to recover parts of the encryption key or passphrase.  Please disable the swap space (e.g. by running swapoff) or configure an encrypted swap space and then run setup of encrypted volumes again. This program will now abort.
[01:45] <hghg> Any thoughts? More info : it is a MacBook with a broken optical drive, so the only way to install is via usb... but Macs are a bit finicky at times, so I have to do a live boot into the desktop and then from there select the <install lubuntu option>....
[01:48] <daftykins> sudo swapoff
[01:48] <daftykins> or create an encrypted swap, as it suggests
[01:55] <hghg> daftykins: Hmmm. So I ran sudo swapoff and tried again and got :'An error occurred while configuring encrypted volumes.  The configuration has been aborted.'... any thoughts? Maybe it is better to do encrption after?
[01:56] <daftykins> no idea
[01:57] <Stevvv> I did it!
[02:09] <Zerkalerka> hey guys, I am stuck in a login loop, doing chown username:username .Xauthority    does not seem to help
[02:09] <daftykins> any other files in ~ not owned by you?
[02:10] <Zerkalerka> yes
[02:10] <Zerkalerka> wait
[02:10] <Zerkalerka> no
[02:10] <Zerkalerka> err sorry 2 are owned by root
[02:10] <Zerkalerka> .gvfs and .ICEauthority
[02:11] <daftykins> ls -al ~/ | pastebinit
[02:11] <Zerkalerka> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11216641/
[02:12] <daftykins> oh wow your xsessionerrors is huge
[02:12] <Zerkalerka> yes
[02:12] <daftykins> pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors
[02:13] <Zerkalerka> it wasn't so big.. it was only as big as the old one, then I tried to fix stuff and then it got huge
[02:13] <daftykins> and in the meantime "sudo chown -R username: ~/"
[02:13] <Zerkalerka> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11216679/
[02:14] <daftykins> so run my chmod above, now "sudo service lightdm restart"
[02:14] <daftykins> and see if it lets you log in
[02:14] <Zerkalerka> k
[02:14] <Zerkalerka> should i reboot computer
[02:15] <Zerkalerka> it was just sitting at the lightdm screen
[02:15] <daftykins> not if you use the method above
[02:15] <daftykins> restart lightdm regardless :)
[02:16] <EriC^^> on the 4th day, Tux said, let there be lightdm, and Tux was happy
[02:16] <EriC^^> :P
[02:16] <daftykins> :D
[02:19] <Zerkalerka> ok yeah it works
[02:19] <Zerkalerka> it just auto logins now like before
[02:20] <daftykins> \o/
[02:20] <Zerkalerka> im confused on what might of happened.. only thing I did was setup ssh on that machine and the one I am on now.. and I copied 2 .deb files and installed them through ssh
[02:20] <Zerkalerka> then boom that happens
[02:20] <Zerkalerka> skype and teamviewer
[02:20] <daftykins> could've run startx at some point
[02:20] <daftykins> as root
[02:21] <Zerkalerka> oh
[02:21] <Zerkalerka> yes I did
[02:21] <daftykins> *slaps you on the wrist*
[02:21] <daftykins> don't do that again ;)
[02:21] <Zerkalerka> I did it from this computer
[02:21] <Zerkalerka> that makes sense
[02:21] <Zerkalerka> lol
[02:21] <Zerkalerka> wanted to see if it would load lol
[02:22] <daftykins> it will not!
[02:22] <Zerkalerka> nope :(
[02:22] <Zerkalerka> and it will break things
[02:23] <Zerkalerka> so that just means root took over permissions in my ~/ directory where the user could now not access?
[02:23] <Zerkalerka> thats what was causing the issues?
[02:23] <daftykins> Zerkalerka: in the last pastebin i asked you to do, have a look at the line before last
[02:24] <Zerkalerka> ah good eye
[02:25] <algamal> hi
[02:25] <Zerkalerka> i see so we changed ownership of the files that root was locking
[02:25] <daftykins> well that root owned, yep
[02:26] <daftykins> so then your user had access and wasn't booted
[02:26] <Zerkalerka> right, would explain why i was on the desktop and after i ran that stupid command i went back and i was all of a sudden stuck in login screen :P
[02:27] <Zerkalerka> my xsession errors down to 3 lines now :P
[02:28] <Zerkalerka> appreciate the help
[02:28] <daftykins> np
[02:29] <Zerkalerka> just been using for a few weeks, gonna take awhile to memorize all these day commands and look for the easy slipups :P
[02:30] <daftykins> using a notebook is the best way to start imo
[02:34] <Exploiter-h4x0r> a
[02:34] <Exploiter-h4x0r> :)
[02:34] <Bashing-om> Zerkalerka: next is a text editor for 'notes' :)
[02:36] <hplc> if the cache in aptitude is far far beyond the latest version, and repo doesnt understand that. Is it possible to tell aptitude where to find more modern versions to install? sourceforge? or somethi9ng
[02:36] <brasil> blz galera
[02:36] <daftykins> hplc: are you saying you want packages newer than in repos?
[02:37] <hplc> yes
[02:37] <brasil> Poderiam me ajudar com error: /dev/sdc: no medium found?
[02:37] <hmei7> need help
[02:37] <daftykins> hplc: you either need to move to a newer release, or find the software you want in a PPA
[02:37] <daftykins> !br | brasil
[02:37] <daftykins> hmei7: you'll need to start with a question
[02:37] <hmei7> english please
[02:37] <hplc> on 14.04
[02:38] <hplc> dist-upgrade soesnt do anything
[02:38] <hplc> where to find public PPAs?
[02:38] <daftykins> that's because dist-upgrade does not upgrade version
[02:38] <daftykins> !distupgrade
[02:39] <hplc> ok ok ok forget it!, try this, i want to get and compile the latest source, how to do that in ubuntu terminal?
[02:39] <brasil> boa noite!
[02:40] <hplc> wget?
[02:40] <hplc> apt-source install bla bla bla?
[02:41] <daftykins> apt-source just gets the source for packages in your repos
[02:41] <daftykins> you have to go out and find new source yourself :)
[02:44] <HiroPro> What does -$(uname -r) do in "dkms build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[02:45] <HiroPro> talking to a linux retard here
[02:45] <somsip> HiroPro: inserts the current kernel version that is in use
[02:45] <HiroPro> ahh ok
[02:45] <HiroPro> uname -r
[02:45] <HiroPro> duh!
[02:45] <HiroPro> thanks
[02:50] <riceNbeans> When my computer sleeps it wakes and WiFi is disable. I run killall wpa_supplicant and that doesn't work. Running trusty thar stable. Any ideas?
[02:51] <xymind914> try using a newer development non-stable kernel
[02:54] <daftykins> riceNbeans: "sudo service network-manager restart" not your kill command
[02:56] <riceNbeans> Damn that ducking works ur a G
[02:56] <riceNbeans> :D
[02:56] <Guest19301> i have a problem with my linux operating systen
[02:57] <Bashing-om> !ask | Guest19301
[03:05] <multiverse> I installed Ubuntu 15.04, but I am unable to disable the GUI that was installed.  How do I just get the terminal?
[03:05] <multiverse> On start up of course
[03:07] <helios__> Still looking for someone who can help me figure out how to create an internal tld for development purposes using dnsmasq.  How do I have the box llisten to an asset on the local network when calling for a .dev domain?
[03:07] <Bashing-om> multiverse: Ubuntu 15.04+ needs to disable gui via systemd . Try ' sudo systemctl enable multi-user.target --force ; sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target ' .
[03:07] <daftykins> why use dnsmasq at all? :>
[03:07] <helios__> Honestly, I don't know.
[03:07] <helios__> Disclaimer:  It doesn't have to be dnsmasq
[03:08] <daftykins> sounds like you want to work on running your own in-house BIND9 server then
[03:09] <helios__> I did configure bind9.  daftykins, do you know of any article which would explain this to me thouroughly?
[03:09] <daftykins> no
[03:10] <helios__> Darn.  Okay.  Well thanks daftykins.  I'll look more into bind9 then.
[03:10] <multiverse> Thanks for the tip!
[03:11] <Bashing-om> multiverse: :) Workie ?
[03:11] <multiverse> workie
[03:11] <multiverse> Does that mean non desktop stuff is up?
[03:12] <multiverse> Does this mean that desktop services are not running?
[03:12] <daftykins> you always have TTYs even if X is started.
[03:12] <Bashing-om> multiverse: Great ! keep on keep'n on .
[03:12] <multiverse> I am worried about GUI, not used, consuming resources in the background.  As long as I don’t boot into GUI, GUI services and such are off?
[03:13] <helios__> sudo service lightdm start
[03:13] <helios__> >?
[03:14] <Bashing-om> multiverse: There is a systemdctl command to see what services are running . gimme a bit to hunt it up .
[03:14] <multiverse> found it
[03:14] <multiverse> erp
[03:14] <multiverse> waiting
[03:16] <Bashing-om> multiverse: How 'bout ' dpkg -L systemd-services ' ?
[03:17] <multiverse> not installed - but I’m going with what I have now.
[03:18] <multiverse> 2nd topic!  What’s the quick way to connect to WAP from CLI in Ubuntu 15
[03:18] <al2o3-cr> list all running services with "systemctl"
[03:18] <multiverse> via wireless
[03:19] <daftykins> CLI wireless is not gonna be a good time
[03:19] <Bashing-om> multiverse: WIFI: can not advise . Services Try : ' systemctl list-unit-files --type=service ' .
[03:20] <al2o3-cr> multiverse: wpa_supplicant -B -i "int" -c <(wpa_passphrase "ssid" "psk")
[03:21] <multiverse> what does psk stand for?
[03:22] <al2o3-cr> multiverse: pre shared key
[03:22] <al2o3-cr> basically you wifi password
[03:23] <multiverse> sooo…   wpa_suuplicant -B -i “init” -c (xyz “NeightborWireless”)
[03:24] <al2o3-cr> multiverse: so like this: wpa_supplicant -B -i wlan0 -c <(wpa_passphrase "MYWIFI" "PASSWORD") && dhclient wlan0
[03:24] <multiverse> hrm
[03:24] <multiverse> What if I don’t have wpa_passphrase?
[03:25] <al2o3-cr> use iwconfig
[03:26] <multiverse> gotcha
[03:26] <daftykins> sure hope you're paying your neighbour :P
[03:26] <multiverse> hehe
[03:28] <multiverse> Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant
[03:28] <multiverse> I guest I am waiting to hear back from dhclient at this point
[03:29] <multiverse> It sorta hangs
[03:29] <multiverse> never comes back
[03:29] <multiverse> flashing line
[03:29] <al2o3-cr> try doing it on seperate lines
[03:31] <multiverse> nah
[03:32] <al2o3-cr> multiverse: what dhclient just hangs?
[03:32] <multiverse> I can see wpa_supplicant in top
[03:32] <multiverse> Never seems to finish
[03:35] <al2o3-cr> try dhcpcd
[03:35] <batabatu> how can I determine which tty port my phone is on when it's plugged into my linux machine?
[03:40] <wafflejock> batabatu, check dmesg after plugging it in
[03:40] <batabatu> hmm, tried that, I get "[    0.000000] console [tty0] enabled"
[03:40] <batabatu> which doesn't seem to mean much
[03:40] <batabatu> I get the same result whether or not the phone is plugged in
[03:41] <batabatu> I'm unsure whether or not the phone should be in "USB debugging mode" or not for me to get it to show up as a tty device
[03:42] <batabatu> dmesg | grep tty
[03:42] <batabatu> [    0.000000] console [tty0] enabled
[03:42] <wafflejock> batabatu, pretty sure you'll want it on debugging mode to communicate via the serial connection otherwise should show up as a USB disk I believe
[03:42] <wafflejock> batabatu, are you using this for android development?
[03:43] <batabatu> hmm I did try debugging mode and got the same result
[03:43] <batabatu> not really for development
[03:43] <batabatu> I'm trying to use a program to change settings on my phone
[03:43] <batabatu> and that program requires me to enter the serial port that the phone is connected to
[03:44] <batabatu> a seemingly simple bit of information which I haven't been able to find
[03:44] <_unreal_> hello, what is the comand for listing your video card?
[03:44] <Ben64> batabatu: just type "dmesg" and see what comes up, don
[03:44] <Ben64> 't grep
[03:44] <_unreal_> lspci or dmesg?
[03:44] <Ben64> _unreal_: might pop up in both, but i'd recommend "lshw -C VIDEO"
[03:45] <batabatu> Ben64, tried that too, not sure how to interpret it
[03:45] <_unreal_> lswh command not found
[03:45] <batabatu> New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[03:45] <batabatu> does that correspond to /dev/ttyS3?
[03:45] <Ben64> _unreal_: read again
[03:45] <wafflejock> _unreal_, lshw
[03:45] <_unreal_> lshw command not founbd
[03:45] <_unreal_> heh
[03:45] <wafflejock> _unreal_, lspci -k will show it along with the loaded kernel module
[03:46] <Ben64> _unreal_: ok so you're not running ubuntu, what are you running
[03:46] <wafflejock> thought lshw was always around?
[03:46] <_unreal_> dsm
[03:46] <_unreal_> dsl
[03:46] <_unreal_> i'm just trying to list the video card so I can find a driver
[03:46] <Ben64> _unreal_: so don't ask for support in the #ubuntu channel
[03:47] <sammie> whats the difference between man and info pages
[03:47] <_unreal_> there is no dsl chan......
[03:47] <_unreal_> time
[03:47] <Ben64> thats not our problem, maybe try ##linu
[03:47] <Ben64> ##linux *
[03:48] <sammie> is the answer the same in all linux ditro
[03:48] <sammie> distro
[03:49] <sammie> ???
[03:49] <Ben64> sammie: nope
[03:49] <_unreal_> omg..... lspci |grep VGA gives me intel vga compatable video card
[03:49] <sammie> then y ##linux
[03:49] <_unreal_> gurrrr
[03:50] <sammie> ping
[03:50] <al2o3-cr> man info || info man
[03:50] <al2o3-cr> ^^ sammie
[03:50] <haxor_> ping
[03:51] <sammie> ah good thinking thnx :)
[03:54] <sammie> whats the difference between the freenode and ubuntu servers
[03:55] <haxor_> big difference
[03:55] <al2o3-cr> sammie: stop acting daft
[03:55] <sammie> seriously/
[03:56] <Ullarah> If only there was something on the internet that allowed you to search for certain information like that.
[03:56] <Ben64> sammie: what do you mean freenode and ubuntu servers
[03:56] <haxor_> if only the web had a search engine
[03:56] <Ullarah> haxor_, let's invent one! /s
[03:56] <haxor_> we'll call it yahoo!
[03:57] <Ullarah> Great name! Did you just come up with that?
[03:57] <haxor_> it just popped into my mind.  good isnt it
[03:57] <N3X15> Oh yeah?  Well, mine's gonna be called duckduckgo.  Because ducks.
[03:57] <haxor_> ducking hell
[03:57] <Ben64> stop
[04:12] <xrosnight> hello
[04:13] <xrosnight> what networking manager do you guys use? on your linux?
[04:13] <siddharth030> i want to make .sh file to elf
[04:14] <SchrodingersScat> !why
[04:14] <siddharth030> because i want user to just click and run
[04:14] <Nando3> you want to create shellcode??
[04:14] <siddharth030> .sh will start apache will start mysl and also browser
[04:14] <siddharth030> ya Nando
[04:14] <siddharth030> but i want user to click a software
[04:14] <siddharth030> not elf file
[04:14] <siddharth030> i mean elf
[04:15] <SmileyChris> i'm trying to get elasticsearch running as a service (on 15.04) and having problems
[04:15] <SmileyChris> standard apt-get install
[04:15] <SmileyChris> I can run the /usr/share/elasticsearch/bin/elasticsearch binary fine (and elasticsearch runs)
[04:15] <SchrodingersScat> !info shc | siddharth030 and it's actually in the repos
[04:16] <SmileyChris> but the service doesn't seem to work... `systemctl status elasticsearch` says: Active: active (exited) [...]
[04:17] <SmileyChris> also from status: Process: 5016 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/elasticsearch start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
[04:17] <SmileyChris> is this some weird unfinished systemd transitional issue?
[04:18] <Nando3> @siddharth030 you can test run shellcode made by vivid, find it in google
[04:19] <SmileyChris> (alternatively, is there a better place to ask this?)
[04:22] <SmileyChris> solved: needed to edit /etc/defaults/elasticsearch (and then fixing some permissions problems after initially running it as root)
[04:34] <Guest35420> \whois LinuxUser
[04:43] <aremis> Hello.  I've been trying to play minecraft for quite a while and it refuses to work.  I'm in Ubuntu 15.04 and I have tried the Iced Tea java and now I have the official java files in my /usr/java folder.  When trying to connect in the mojang launcher it throws me a bunch of SSL errors and other errors. In the technic launcher it tells me it cannot connect to auth.minecraft.net.  I can get on the website and none of the services are
[04:43] <aremis> down and resetting my router does nothing.  Also the Ubuntu firewall is not active, I have checked.
[04:47] <xrosnight> HELP! xfce4 indicator icons disappear! in ubutnu 14.04! after removing Unity DE and installing the Xfce4 DE.   How to fix this? thanks!!
[04:50] <aremis> :P  I never really had a problem with that personally.  However XFCE is installed and tries to use a config that isn't there.  I haven't used XF in a while but the icons menu should be in with the deskrop pictures settings.  If not it will be in the all settings dingus.  You should be able to fix it there.
[04:50] <sorvastas> hi all
[04:50] <Toir33> What is the best way to kill a process? #kill -15 , or -1?
[04:51] <xrosnight> Toir33:  Kill -9
[04:51] <aremis> pkell -9 <process>
[04:51] <aremis> kill***
[04:52] <Toir33> ok thanks
[04:52] <xrosnight> aremis:    nm-applet disapears.
[04:52] <xrosnight> that does not happen in 12.04
[04:54] <aremis> I'm inherently an arch user so the best i can say is fuck with everything until it works.  That's what I do.  Try restarting.  If that doesn't work dig into the options.  Since XFCE is actually managed it doesn't have 80 menus for everything like KDE.
[04:56] <xrosnight> Aremis117:  hey i use Archlinux as well.  the reason why i am using ubuntu for instead now is to be less painful. but that failed.
[04:57] <Aremis117> Ubunto is honestly a pain in my ass.  Not as much as windows is.  At least in arch I can play some bloody minecraft
[04:58] <Aremis117> I regret my decisions of running ubuntu on my desktop
[04:59] <xrosnight> Aremis117:  if you have to re-install an OS. what's your choice then, and why?
[05:01] <xrosnight> Aremis117: i have just fixed that... you have to enable indicator plugin in the panel settings  if alternating to Xfce4 from Unity
[05:02] <tgm4883> Aremis117: you couldn't get minecraft to work in Ubuntu?
[05:02] <Aremis117> Nope
[05:02] <tgm4883> what was the problem?
[05:02] <Aremis117> tgm4883:  I cannot connect to the servers
[05:02] <Aremis117> Hello.  I've been trying to play minecraft for quite a while and it refuses to work.  I'm in Ubuntu 15.04 and I have tried the Iced Tea java and now I have the official java files in my /usr/java folder.  When trying to connect in the mojang launcher it throws me a bunch of SSL errors and other errors. In the technic launcher it tells me it cannot connect to auth.minecraft.net.  I can get on the website and none of the services are
[05:02] <Aremis117> down and resetting my router does nothing.  Also the Ubuntu firewall is not active, I have checked.
[05:03] <tgm4883> Aremis117: odd, I just connected fine a few days ago
[05:04] <Aremis117> As stated I get SSL errors in the mojang launcher
[05:04] <Jagst3r15> is there any way to see how much memory MySQL is using on a server?
[05:04] <Aremis117> use top
[05:04] <tgm4883> Aremis117: I use multimc to launch, but I don't see why it would be different
[05:05] <Aremis117> also xrosnight:  I have been looking at GhostBSD, I enjoy arch, netrunner is decent, haven't tried redhat, love suse, fedora is shit, why would I touch windows, light OSX on fire
[05:06] <Aremis117> tgm4883:  I imagine that the way to launch has nothing to do with the actual connection
[05:07] <tgm4883> Aremis117: yep, IDK. I run it with OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.5.5) (7u79-2.5.5-0ubuntu1)
[05:07] <xrosnight> do you guys use nautilus as the file manager or others ?     ( nautilus has no feature of viewing splitting( Button F3) the current working  dirtectory any more. it sucks)
[05:07] <tgm4883> Aremis117: 32 or 64 bit
[05:07] <Aremis117> xrosnight:  I prefer thunar.  I hate gnome :P
[05:08] <Aremis117> tgm4883:  64 bit i7.  Again, i doubt that it has anything to do with much but networking
[05:09] <xrosnight> Aremis117:  im also using thunar. but nautils just sucks ... I am liking the KDE one -- dolphin.
[05:09] <Nandoe> i like xfce
[05:09] <xrosnight> Nandoe: me too.
[05:09] <xrosnight> Nandoe: what networking manager (GUI) do you use?
[05:10] <Nandoe> I use wicd
[05:10] <Aremis117> Dolphin is very pleasent
[05:10] <Nandoe> that's more simple
[05:11] <Nandoe> yes, dolphin beautiful environment but my hardware too old to use kde.. hehe
[05:11] <xrosnight> Aremis117:  yeah. Dolphin is the best i guess. So handful
[05:11] <xrosnight> Nandoe:  then xfce or lxde
[05:12] <Aremis117> I still prefer thunar
[05:12] <Aremis117> Caja is ok
[05:12] <xrosnight> Aremis117: im going to uninstall nautilus now
[05:12] <Nandoe> that's right @Aremis117
[05:13] <tag> http://sprunge.us/TVPM
[05:13] <tag> yelp...just going crazy-town
[05:14] <Nandoe> when I first ubuntu, I like gnome 2.x version
[05:15] <Nandoe> gnome 3.x more heavy for my pc
[05:17] <Nandoe> @xrosnight i like xfce
[05:17] <Aremis117> I found mate recently
[05:17] <Aremis117> My life is complete
[05:18] <xrosnight> Aremis117:  im going to reboot the PC now
[05:19] <Nandoe> Mate is good environment, like gnome classic
[05:19] <Aremis117> gl
[05:20] <xrosnight> Nandoe: KDE is really good. if your PC is really capable.
[05:21] <xrosnight> Even the KVIrc is much better than Xchat.
[05:21] <xrosnight> the IRC client
[05:21] <sizel> hi
[05:21] <Nandoe> hmm.. I agree with you
[05:21] <Nandoe> hi sizel
[05:22] <Nandoe> I haven't try kvirc
[05:22] <sizel> how can i subscribe linux kernel maillist
[05:24] <ki7mt> hello all, I should know this but Im brain locked at the moment, what the other command line check for version info as opposed to lsb_release ?
[05:24] <Nandoe> what your means subscribe maillist kernel.org?
[05:24] <EriC^^> ki7mt: cat /etc/issue ?
[05:24] <ki7mt> EriC^^, Thanks
[05:24] <EriC^^> no problem
[05:27] <sizel> I have sent email  to majordomo@vger.kernel.org with content " subscribe linux-kernel", but there is not any responses.
[05:29] <xrosnight> switching to KDE now
[05:29] <lili> I want your opinion on IRC clients available for Ubuntu.
[05:29] <xrosnight> see you guys soon :D
[05:30] <lili> What clients are available?
[05:40] <agent_white> lili: Do you prefer GUI or TUI?
[05:40] <agent_white> Nevermind, already gone. :P
[05:42] <notanoldman> Anyone here have a launchpad account?
[05:43] <notanoldman> I've found a bug if someone wants to submit it.
[05:45] <Guest55870> good day
[05:45] <notanoldman> In Ubuntu 15.04 with qemu-kvm setting KSM_ENABLED=1 or =AUTO in /etc/default/qemu-kvm does not start ksmd.  If you echo 1 > /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/run and restart qemu-kvm it works.
[05:46] <Guest55870> cant install mysql on 15.04
[05:46] <Guest55870> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:46] <Guest55870>  mysql-client : Depends: mysql-client-5.5 but it is not going to be installed
[05:46] <Guest55870>  mysql-server : Depends: mysql-server-5.5 but it is not going to be installed
[05:46] <Guest55870> I have tried lots of stuff and google search is not helping
[05:47] <Guest55870> tried:  aptitude install mysql-server:
[05:47] <Guest55870> tried:  apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client
[05:47] <Guest55870> any ideas
[05:51] <HashNuke> Noticed that $TMPDIR is not set on Ubuntu 14.04. When write shell scripts, do I use /tmp or is there anything else I should be using?
[05:52] <HashNuke> ah found it. mktemp. thanks
[05:57] <inf> Hi all, systemd always asks me for my LUKS passphrase (?!) when using systemctl start ..., any guesses? (kubuntu upgraded since 13.04 or something like that)
[05:59] <haxor_> have you tried putting water on it?
[06:01] <inf> haxor_: it's all lennartd now, i have no power
[06:01] <haxor_> hmmmm
[06:01] <haxor_> more water?
[06:07] <inf> >systemd-cryptsetup@crypt\x2dlvm.service                                                   loaded activating start     start Cryptography Setup for crypt-lvm
[06:07] <inf> well...
[06:15] <haxor_> i like candy
[06:16] <EriC^^> who doesn't?
[06:16] <haxor_> the devil... the devil does not like candy...
[06:18] <haxor_> what happens when my ubuntu becomes bunted...
[06:24] <EriC^^> haxor_: what happens?
[06:25] <haxor_> bunted hell...
[06:25] <haxor_> its all bunted up
[06:26] <Ben64> haxor_: define 'bunted'
[06:26] <haxor_> >.<
[06:27] <cfhowlett> haxor_, for the record: no detailz = no helpz
[06:27] <haxor_> its ok now. I have re-bunted it and now its buntu again
[06:28] <haxor_> all good
[06:28] <Ben64> haxor_: if you want to be off topic, do so in #ubuntu-offtopic , don't play here
[06:28] <haxor_> otay
[06:36] <RoBo_V> seems like wakeonlan works after sudo halt not after sudo shutdown -h now. But thing is my system freezes during halt when going down.
[06:48] <danteVergil> alguien habla espanol
[06:48] <Seveas> ola danteVergil
[06:48] <Seveas> !es
[06:50] <bojan> I have one lvm partition mounted on /mnt and it has some directories and files with acl permission applied on user basis...I want to make users not to delete the main directories inside the /mnt
[06:53] <Seveas> bojan: chattr +i /mnt will make it impossible to add/remove any files/folders in /mnt
[06:53] <bojan> Seveas:Can u explain clearly??
[06:53] <notanoldman> http://www.tecmint.com/chattr-command-examples/
[06:54] <ki7mt> Anyone know off hand if zsync works over SSH similar to rsync ?
[06:54] <notanoldman> I don't know.  I started using btrfs and send receive and haven't looked back
[06:55] <_nedR> Hello my friend tried to install some package, his ubuntu partition is filled to 100% and now he cannot boot into it
[06:55] <Seveas> bojan: that's about as clear as I can make it. For more details, see the manpage for chattr.
[06:55] <notanoldman> btrfs is the best thing since sliced bread
[06:55] <_nedR> we tried to clean from ubuntu advanced option it freed 8mb but even that is gone after booting
[06:57] <bojan> Seaveas:Yes its clear and i have done that
[06:59] <roundcirle> hi, trying to install rose compiler, can someone who installed rose successfully please tell me where to find the configure script?
[06:59] <roundcirle> thanks
[06:59] <_nedR> Went into root terminal, tried to delete some files but it is saying something about being a read-only file system
[07:00] <Ben64> _nedR: went into root terminal how
[07:00] <_nedR> Ben64, thanks for reply through recovery mode in grub
[07:01] <Ben64> _nedR: then you need to mount it read-write, 'mount -o remount,rw /dev/null /'
[07:04] <roundcirle> well got it
[07:17] <michagogo> Something really weird is happening to me. A few minutes ago, I was trying to find out what was in a .tar.gz file.
[07:18] <michagogo> I downloaded it into /tmp, `tar xf`'d it, then looked around with ls and file
[07:18] <_nedR> Ben64, i got in, uninstalled some stuff and now booted back in ubuntu.. Thanks
[07:18] <michagogo> Bash was giving me a weird error when I tried to tabcomplete, so I was using *s
[07:18] <michagogo> (there wasn't much in there)
[07:19] <michagogo> A couple times, it crashed, and popped up a window about Terminal crashing.
[07:19] <cfhowlett> michagogo, please stop using
[07:19] <cfhowlett> !enter
[07:21] <michagogo> Then I tried to do something else, it crashed silently, and I did it again and it crashed, this time saying something about an internal Ubuntu error. It suggested rebooting, so I rebooted, opened a terminal, and noticed that my environment variables didn't automatically get set. Now, when I run `ls -a` in ~, it just crashes silently.
[07:22] <michagogo> Does anyone have any idea what might be happening, or how I could try finding out?
[07:25] <Seveas> michagogo: where did you download this tar.gz from?
[07:25] <michagogo> Seveas: it's a detached signature for Bitcoin Core
[07:25] <michagogo> https://bitcoincore.org/cfields/bitcoin-0.10.2/signature.tar.gz
[07:26] <michagogo> (yes, it's a trusted source, I'm pretty sure it's not malware)
[07:26] <cfhowlett> michagogo, ehhhh, no.  items in the repos are "trusted".  packages outside the repos ... ain't.
[07:26] <michagogo> cfhowlett: huh? I mean *I* trust it
[07:27] <michagogo> I don't mean from the perspective of the system
[07:27] <matthew_kim> can anyone view an image with w3m-img pakage on gnome-terminal? I've just installed w3m-img but it doesn't work
[07:27] <Seveas> hmm, can't connect to bitcoincore.org to download and check it out
[07:31] <michagogo> Seveas: odd, works for me atm
[07:32] <Seveas> michagogo: I'm on a rather sucky 3g connection :) But it worked eventually and there's nothing odd in the file. I think it's unrelated to your issues.
[07:32] <michagogo> Seveas: yeah, I would think so
[07:32] <michagogo> Is there any chance it had to do with me working in /tmp?
[07:33] <Seveas> highly unlikely
[07:33] <michagogo> And, is there any way I could try figuring out what's making it crash?
[07:33] <Seveas> is your ~/.bashrc missing?
[07:33] <Seveas> and what crashes if you do ls -a ~?
[07:33] <michagogo> The Terminal
[07:33] <michagogo> It just closes
[07:34] <michagogo> No, `less .bashrc` works
[07:34] <Seveas> try from a vt (ctrl+alt+f1 to switch to it, alt+f7 to switch back)
[07:35] <michagogo> That works
[07:35] <Seveas> hmm.
[07:35] <michagogo> Is there a way I can try tracking what makes Terminal crash exactly?
[07:35] <michagogo> Or even, what it's actually doing?
[07:35] <Seveas> in the terminal window, first open a new bash shell (just type bash) and then do the ls thing.
[07:36] <Seveas> if that doesn't crash the terminal, it's bash that crashes. Otherwise it's the terminal emulator.
[07:36] <lala> Hello there. I seem to have uninstalled some software using the Ubuntu Software Center. Now I seem to be unable to open System Settings.
[07:36] <lala> I tried to restart Ubuntu.
[07:36] <lala>  HexChat: 2.10.1 ** OS: Linux 3.19.0-16-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "vivid" 15.04 ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2557M CPU @ 1.70GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.70GHz ** RAM: Physical: 976.6MiB, 30.1% free ** Disk: Total: 13.7GiB, 61.6% free ** VGA: VMware SVGA II Adapter ** Sound: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI ** Ethernet: Intel Corporation 82545EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller ** Uptime: 11m 36s **
[07:36] <Seveas> lala: then reinstall it :) (sudo apt-get install unity-control-center)
[07:37] <lala> Seveas: Okay. I'll try that.
[07:37] <Seveas> also, don't spam with useless irc client scripts.
[07:37] <michagogo> Okay, WTF? Now the problem mutated
[07:37] <michagogo> I can run `ls -a` and it works
[07:37] <michagogo> but when I do it a second time the window closes
[07:37] <Seveas> that's actually what I expected
[07:38] <Seveas> so bash is crashing, that's a fun one. Try sudo apt-get install --reinstall bash
[07:38] <michagogo> same with `ls -l`, which was working fine
[07:38] <michagogo> Seveas: no, you misunderstand
[07:38] <michagogo> this is even the case when I reopen the window and *don't* run another bash
[07:38] <Seveas> oh
[07:38] <Seveas> damn.
[07:39] <Seveas> try creating a new user. See if it crashes for that user.
[07:42] <michagogo> okay, created new account
[07:42] <michagogo> rebooting just for good measure
[07:43] <mengtu> hello
[07:44] <mengtu> ping
[07:44] <mengtu> ??
[07:46] <mengtu> hello
[07:47] <michagogo> Seveas: it happened again
[07:47] <michagogo> but only after a handful of `ls -a`s, not just 2
[07:47] <michagogo> The first time it said that Terminal closed unexpectedly
[07:48] <michagogo> And both times that I just did it it said that Ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error
[07:49] <michagogo> It says that the terminal "crashed with SIGABRT in g_assertion_message()
[07:49] <michagogo> "
[07:49] <michagogo> And both "internal error" boxes say that unity-scope-loader crashed with SIGABRT in __gnu_cxx::__verbose_terminate_handler()
[07:50] <michagogo> Any idea what might be going on?
[07:50] <Dedi> hi
[07:50] <michagogo> Correction: I did get a second (seemingly identical) Terminal crash box
[07:50] <Dedi> any suggestion of lightweight linux distro...I am using toshiba l310
[07:52] <k1l_> !lubuntu | Dedi
[07:55] <Dedi> what about lxle vs lubuntu? which one is good..?
[07:56] <Dedi> I`ve used lubuntu, sometime my laptop goes black because of heating, i guess...
[08:02] <michagogo> Oh, and one single `ls -la` triggers the crash
[08:04] <tsushi> Someone know an easy to setup log analyzer ? I tried to install Graylog
[08:04] <tsushi> But, now i just wanna kill myself
[08:04] <iptable> michagogo, 1. check if you have enough ram, 2. check another terminal (xterm or something, you may need to install it), 3. run memtest (need reboot to grub), 4. run fsck
[08:05] <iptable> tsushi, what logs?
[08:05] <michagogo> iptable: I have 3034 MB of RAM, and it's in a VM. And yes, I already tried xterm and it's fine.
[08:06] <tsushi> Good question lol. Both for networking gear and another linux server
[08:06] <iptable> tsushi, tried logwatch?
[08:06] <tsushi> nah, only been wrestling with graylog so far
[08:07] <tsushi> i'll check it out
[08:07] <iptable> tsushi, there is also nagios for log monitoring. try both then.
[08:07] <iptable> michagogo, so we know it's that particular terminal emulator that's faulty. tried reinstalling? apt-get install --reinstall ...
[08:07] <michagogo> eep, fsck is giving a scary warning
[08:07] <tsushi> okay, thanks
[08:07] <michagogo> I guess I need to unmount the fs
[08:08] <michagogo> so... reboot from the iso?
[08:08] <michagogo> iptable: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-terminal?
[08:08] <michagogo> I'll try that
[08:09] <iptable> michagogo, it's possible somehow it's got corrupt, in which case I would also run a full fsck and smart test (install smartmontools and run smartctl -a to see if overall disk status is passed). Could be bad sectors.
[08:09] <michagogo> Reinstalled gnome-terminal, still happening
[08:10] <michagogo> iptable: is memtest/smartctl relevant in a VM? I'd assume not.
[08:10] <iptable> michagogo, fsck should be done in offline mode, so yes. boot from liveCD and perform an fsck. there is a switch to make it not repair errors but just report them to begin with if you want (man fsck).
[08:11] <iptable> michagogo, fsck is relevant. memtest is too (VM could be allocated faulty RAM bits). smartctl, depends. if you have bad sectors on the physical HDD, then yes, most relevant. You need to run memtest and smartctl on physical host though.
[08:11] <michagogo> Okay, booting from the iso to fsck in the vm
[08:11] <michagogo> Host is Windows.
[08:12] <iptable> michagogo, ugh, liveCD the host, install and run smartmontools (smartctl -a), and reboot liveCD into memtest. let it do 5 passes.
[08:12] <michagogo> Erm, i tried running fsck
[08:13] <jpentland> I have some problems with APT and DPKG - does anyone know what could be up? http://pastebin.com/VXZWcXff
[08:13] <michagogo> it just printed "fsck from util-linux 2.20.1" and exited
[08:13] <iptable> michagogo, should memtest, smartctl and fsck not fix your issue, then the problem is most likely somewhere else, within the VM installation. I would try then to: remove gnome-terminal from /var/cache/apt, run apt-get install --reinstall again, or even purge and install instead to make sure binaries are gone (assuming gnome-terminal purge will not try to remoe hell load of stuff as dependency)
[08:14] <iptable> jpentland, gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[08:14] <michagogo> iptable: looks like SMART status on the host is OK
[08:14] <iptable> jpentland, as stated by the error, you have no space left on device. df -h to see. you will notice that /boot partition (as you put it on a separate partition and made it too small) is full.
[08:14] <jpentland> iptable, oh its my /boot partition
[08:14] <michagogo> iptable: and how do I run fsck from the livecd?
[08:15] <jpentland> iptable, so "apt-get autoremove" will remove old kernels and make space for the new one?
[08:15] <iptable> michagogo, fsck /dev/sdX
[08:15] <michagogo> Ah
[08:15] <michagogo> Actually, makes sense that it wouldn't do anything :P
[08:15] <iptable> jpentland, theoretically
[08:16] <iptable> jpentland, if not, you will have to run dpkg -l |grep linux, and remove the relevant linux-image kernels (all except what is currently running from uname -a).
[08:16] <michagogo> hm
[08:16] <jpentland> iptable, ok thanks
[08:16] <michagogo> iptable: it said "permission denied while trying to open /dev/sda", and said I must have r/w access to the fs or be root
[08:16] <iptable> michagogo, yes. sudo
[08:16] <michagogo> So I added sudo, and now it says that it's in use
[08:17] <iptable> michagogo, exact error please
[08:17] <iptable> oh
[08:17] <michagogo> "/dev/sda is in use.\ne2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting."
[08:17] <iptable> michagogo, fsck /dev/sdX i.e. your partition too.
[08:17] <iptable> michagogo, fsck /dev/sda1 for example
[08:17] <michagogo> ah
[08:18] <iptable> michagogo, fdisk -l /dev/sda to see your partitions
[08:18] <iptable> scan 'em all
[08:18] <michagogo> there/s sda1, sda2, sda5
[08:18] <iptable> apart from swap, that will be pointless ;)
[08:18] <michagogo> um, that was very fast
[08:19] <michagogo> /dev/sda1: clean, ######/####### files, #######/######## blocks
[08:19] <iptable> michagogo, I need to run, but following fsck, still do: remove /var/cache/gnome-terminal, reinstall gnome-terminal using apt-get, login as another user (create another user) and try gnome terminal (could be your user profile is damaged causing this, need to test that), run smartctl on host and memtest on host.
[08:19] <iptable> michagogo, clean means it's good
[08:19] <michagogo> Was that supposed to work instantly?
[08:20] <danieel> anybody who got knowledge of UbuntuTouch?
[08:20] <michagogo> iptable: I already tried in a new user account, so shouldn't be the profile
[08:20] <somsip> !touch | danieel
[08:20] <michagogo> I'll try the purge thing
[08:20] <danieel> somsip: i need some rather interactive approach :)
[08:21] <somsip> danieel: the irc channel for touch may have interactive people in it
[08:21] <iptable> michagogo, /var/cache/apt/ is where apt cache for deb packages is. you need to remove gnome terminal from there. otherwise you could be reinstalling a broken version
[08:21] <iptable> michagogo, are you running ubuntu/gubuntu/lubuntu/what?
[08:21] <danieel> thanks
[08:21] <k1l_> danieel: that channel is where the specialists are.
[08:21] <michagogo> iptable: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[08:22] <michagogo> (upgraded from 12.04 a while back, I think)
[08:22] <iptable> michagogo, ok, standard ubuntu, not some lubuntu/xubuntu or other variant? also, did the issue start after the upgrade?
[08:22] <michagogo> No
[08:22] <michagogo> Issue started just now, upgraded a long time ago
[08:23] <iptable> michagogo, silly question, df -h shows you got space on both partitions still free?
[08:23] <michagogo> The issue started after I unpacked a .tar.gz into /tmp and was looking around with file and ls
[08:23] <michagogo> Though I don't know if that's just a coincidence
[08:24] <iptable> michagogo, as asked, do you have space on your partitions? pls provide output of df -h in pastebin
[08:24] <iptable> could be full /tmp :D
[08:24] <michagogo> Okay, as soon as gnome-terminal reinstalls
[08:25] <iptable> michagogo, /tmp will be a virtual filesystem that is VERY small. you are not supposed to do that there from what I remember
[08:27] <michagogo> iptable: cannot remove /var/cache/apt/gnome-terminal, no such file/dir
[08:27] <iptable> michagogo, you need to be a bit inventive
[08:27] <iptable> michagogo, cd /var/cache/apt ; ls |grep gnome-terminal
[08:28] <iptable> michagogo, ls /var/cache/apt/archives even
[08:28] <michagogo> that dir only has apt-file, archives, pkgcache.bin. srcpkgcache.bin
[08:28] <michagogo> in archives there are a bunch of debs, is it there?
[08:28] <iptable> michagogo, feel free to remove all files from that dir
[08:28] <michagogo> okay, got it
[08:31] <michagogo> Okay, wiped cache, reinstalled, still crashes
[08:31] <michagogo> Getting df -h now
[08:31] <michagogo> Here's the output:  https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/UJJsuCwz
[08:33] <jpentland> iptable, ok autoremoved worked although it took longer than usual - thanks
[08:34] <michagogo> iptable: so nothing's full. Also, that tarball is about .1 MB
[08:34] <iptable> jpentland, no worries
[08:34] <iptable> michagogo, can you sudo rm -rf /tmp/* ; sudo shutdown -r now
[08:34] <iptable> michagogo, and test again
[08:34] <iptable> michagogo, test using a different user
[08:34] <michagogo> iptable: already using a different user
[08:35] <iptable> michagogo, try agnother one now that it's reinstalled
[08:35] <michagogo> Okay
[08:35] <michagogo> It's rebooting now (though, doesn't that clear /tmp anyway?)
[08:36] <michagogo> I'll test in crashtest, and if it still crashes I'll create crashtest2
[08:36] <iptable> michagogo, not on your system
[08:37] <michagogo> Okay, still crashing
[08:38] <michagogo> Okay, almost same problem in a new user
[08:38] <michagogo> This time is takes 2 runs of `ls -la`
[08:39]  * michagogo is confused
[08:39] <Guest42524> bom dia...
[08:40] <michagogo> !pt | Madelyn
[08:40] <Madelyn> tks :*
[08:41] <michagogo> iptable: Is there any way to try and get some kind of trace or dump that someone could use to figure out wtf is going on?
[08:42] <iptable> michagogo, yes, you can enable crash dumps for it or run it with strace (strace gnome-terminal) to see
[08:43] <iptable> michagogo, though I don't play with those so either google or ask for someone to assist with those. It's the last thing you can do apart from a reinstall
[08:43] <michagogo> (BTW, I first realized this was happening when I noticed my automatic environment variables weren't set after I rebooted after that tgz thing, so I ran `ls -a` and it crashed)
[08:44] <iptable> michagogo, I will bet it's some library that gnome-terminal uses
[08:44] <michagogo> whoa
[08:45] <michagogo> Ran strace gnome-terminal | tee gnome-terminal-strace
[08:45] <michagogo> Tons of text flying by
[08:45] <michagogo> Seeing lots of "Resource temporarily unavailable"
[08:45] <iptable> michagogo, ah, if you messed up your variables, that could cause gnome-terminal to crash. DO check env.
[08:45] <iptable> michagogo, which resource? what is it trying to access
[08:46] <michagogo> iptable: no, I didn't change anything in the environment any time resently
[08:46] <michagogo> recently
[08:46] <michagogo> Um
[08:46] <iptable> michagogo, you need to check strace or do a crash dump and gdb analyze it. one of those will tell you where it's failing. I REALLY need to go now.
[08:46] <michagogo> Isn't `| tee filename` supposed to write output to that filename?
[08:50] <cromag> Hi, i am trying to get my apps ungrouped when switching between them. https://askubuntu.com/questions/432022/disable-gnome-compiz-task-switcher-grouping this i have tried without luck, even after reboot.. Any ideas ? :)
[08:52] <michagogo> Here's the strace output: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/YMUxYDWe/term-strace-err
[08:57] <Number5> Hello guys, I have an Asus Eeepc 901 just collecting dust. I'd like to install the latest suitable ubuntu so my son can play with. What's the best distro to install? I googled a bit and found out that Eeebuntu is discontinued, but EasyPeasy's website is still alive. I hope you have some nice recommendations.
[08:57] <k1l_> !lubuntu | Number5
[08:58] <k1l_> that first atom cpus are really really slow. so lubuntu is the best bet on ubuntu basis
[08:58] <Number5> ubottu, thnx, but I need a bistro specially tweaked for Eeepc 901 model. Eeebuntu and Easypeasy was specially tweaked for it.
[08:59] <Number5> oooh :P
[08:59] <Dedi> Number5, xubuntu anyone?
[09:00] <iptable> michagogo, open("/tmp", O_RDWR|O_EXCL|O_DIRECTORY|O_NOATIME|0x400000) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[09:00] <iptable> open("/tmp/vte51IMYX", O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0600) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[09:00] <Number5> k1l_, It's not like I want the latest of the late OS. I have no problem if it's a bit old, as long as it is tweaked well for Asus 901.
[09:00] <iptable> michagogo, ^ fiddled with and changed permissions of /tmp then?
[09:00] <k1l_> Number5: since that devices are really old (and really slow) there are no special distros anymore. and since this is #ubuntu we stick to the official ubuntu releases. therefore try the lightweight Lubuntu
[09:00] <michagogo> iptable: nope.
[09:00] <Number5> Dedi, no that's too heavy.
[09:00] <k1l_> Number5: Lubuntu is tweaked for old and slow hardware. so yes
[09:00] <michagogo> Well, not knowingly... Might `tar xf` change permissions of cwd? o_O
[09:00] <iptable> michagogo, by the sound of the above, yes. looks like your untarring did somrthing
[09:01] <iptable> michagogo, drwxrwxrwt   1 root root  888 May 19 09:58 tmp
[09:01] <Dedi> Number5, sorry if it doesnt fit your needs...
[09:01] <Number5> k1l_, hmm ok thnx, I'll check it out.
[09:01] <iptable> michagogo, ls -l / <- check it shows the above
[09:01] <Number5> Dedi, you don't have to apologise :)
[09:01] <michagogo> god dammit
[09:01] <Dedi> seriously what make a distro lightweight?
[09:02] <michagogo> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Y4KPmkt6/
[09:02] <k1l_> Dedi: the used desktop, the settings it comes with. just read about Lubuntu. the bot just gave the link
[09:02] <michagogo> so... chmod 777 /tmp?
[09:02] <Number5> k1l_, I know that Asus 901 is old and slow, but it's awesome to learn bash scripting, wget websites and get images and stuff. Nice hacks for my son of 9 years old.
[09:02] <Dedi> the Desktop Environment?
[09:03] <michagogo> and chown root /tmp and chgrp root /tmp?
[09:03] <citroniks>  /msg NickServ identify 1234
[09:03] <k1l_> citroniks: change that pw to a stronger one :)
[09:03] <iptable> michagogo, sudo chmod 1777 /tmp
[09:03] <michagogo> what's the 1?
[09:04] <iptable> michagogo, temp flag
[09:04] <michagogo> Ah
[09:04] <Dedi> I have same problem, my laptop frequently make noise when I use it...
[09:04] <iptable> michagogo, notice rwxrwxrwt
[09:04] <Dedi> it heats..
[09:04] <iptable> michagogo, then sudo chown root:root /tmp
[09:04] <iptable> Dedi, all electronics with fans make noise when you use them
[09:05] <michagogo> Does this look right? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/LLJ44u0y/
[09:05] <Dedi> ha...ha..I mean too much noise...
[09:05] <iptable> michagogo, yup.
[09:05] <Night_Elf> Dedi: Maybe bad GPU drivers. Does the same thing happen if you are on text mode only and remain such for some time?
[09:06] <iptable> michagogo, you *may* need to reboot now if gnome-terminal still doesn't work. a LOT of things weren't running properly due to lack of /tmp
[09:06] <michagogo> iptable: just spammed a bunch of `ls -la`
[09:06] <michagogo> it's working
[09:06] <michagogo> thank you SO much for your help...
[09:06] <Dedi> I am using toshiba l310...
[09:06] <iptable> michagogo, mkdir ~/tmp/sometar ; cd ~/tmp/sometar ; tar xf /some/where/file.tar
[09:06] <citroniks> k1l_, how to change pw im new
[09:06] <iptable> michagogo, that will normally help fix th issue of tar having permission set to ..
[09:06] <Dedi> frequently happen when browsing...
[09:07] <michagogo> iptable: yeah, I expect I'll remember that for next time
[09:07] <Dedi> can I install for example xfce for crunchbang(the os I am using now)?
[09:07] <iptable> michagogo, tar can set . and .., so keep the tar file below 1 dir for safety if you don't know what it is. glad we solved it :)
[09:07] <Night_Elf> Dedi: More often when you browse flash content sites, or javascript content sites?
[09:08] <iptable> Dedi, sound-cancelling-headphones?
[09:08] <Dedi> flash, like youtube, using Iceweasel 20.0
[09:08] <michagogo> iptable: as am I. Again, I can't thank you enough
[09:08] <iptable> michagogo, no worries
[09:08] <michagogo> At annoying as it was to lose 2 hours to this, it would have been much worse to have to reinstall and set the VM up from scratch
[09:09] <Night_Elf> Dedi: You might ned to check what flash player you're using. Adobe or gnash, for example.
[09:09] <Dedi> adobe I guess...
[09:09] <Night_Elf> Dedi: Ubuntu has Iceweasel? Wow!
[09:09] <iptable> Dedi, flash is very buggy, but that would be your CPU fan spinning. 1. buy compressed air and clean up your fan using that. 2. install chrome/chromium and enjoy youtube and other sites via HTML5. 3. buy faster laptop if  you can,, 4. DO check what flash player you are using as Night_Elf suggested, 5. make sure you installed GPU drivers
[09:10] <iptable> Dedi, actually, FIRST make sure you have GPU drivers installed if you are running ATI/nvidia, not the default opensource ones. you will not get GPU performance on nvidia/ati unless you use their proper drivers. so your CPU could be doing GPUs job
[09:11] <Dedi> my laptop is using intel...I ll try chrome/chromium then...
[09:13] <Night_Elf> Dedi: actually, when that fan noise appears, do you have high cpu load ?
[09:14] <Dedi> yes, like 10 % and 500 MB of 1 GB ram...
[09:18] <Night_Elf> Dedi: 10% of cpu load is not that bad. My laptop starts to fan-up when cpu load goes around 70%
[09:18] <k1l_> Dedi: crunchbang is dead and not supported here anyway
[09:19] <Dedi> I guess my RAM is very low, yes, cruncbang is not supported, but i think it lightweight, so why dont give it a try...
[09:20] <k1l_> Dedi: because its #ubuntu in here. if you want to talk about crunchbang see their support channel or try ##linux
[09:20] <Dedi> every time i send text it says ##linux :Cannot send to channel
[09:20] <Dedi> I dont know why...
[09:20] <Dedi> thats why I am here...he..he..
[09:21] <k1l_> maybe you need to register or you are banned. see #freenode for help with channels
[09:21] <_Stifler> you need to register your nick, Dedi
[09:22] <SirVashan> hey all. i have a question regarding ubuntu 15. does it handle touch screen? and if so, is there any issues with drivers?
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> SirVashan: wich device are you trying?
[09:22] <k1l_> SirVashan: yes, but that depends on the actual hardware used
[09:23] <SirVashan> @ lotuspsychje I'd like to dual boot on Acer Aspire V5 MS2377
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> SirVashan: thats a touch laptop or a tablet?
[09:24] <mcphail> SirVashan: try out the live USB and see if it works
[09:25] <SirVashan> mcphail: Thanks. I'll try the live demo. As long as Ubuntu is capable. didn't want to waste my time.
[09:25] <SirVashan> lotuspsychje: Yeah, it's a touch laptop.
[09:26] <mcphail> SirVashan: it is the quickest way to check. Works well with my wife's Dell touchscreen laptop
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> SirVashan: if it works report back to us ok
[09:26] <SirVashan> mcphail: lotuspsychje: great. thanks guys.
[09:26] <Guest55153> hi
[09:27] <Guest55153> i have doubt about raspberry pi supported bluetooth
[09:37] <Flo_K> hello
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> Flo_K: welcome, what can we do you for?
[09:38] <Flo_K> lotuspsychje: i'm looking for a good app menu editor on ubuntu 15.04
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> Flo_K: apt-cache search menu editor
[09:49] <Apk-Ssl> hello
[09:49] <Mehrzad> What should I do in order to upgrade gtkmm sdk opn ubuntu 12.04
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> !info gtkmm
[09:51] <atomtm> Hi there ! Is there any way I can configure my box to act as ntp server , but sending my local time ,i.e UTC time +timezones +DST ?
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> Mehrzad: whats the packagename
[09:51] <Mehrzad> libgtkmm I guess
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> !ntp | atomtm
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> !info libgtkmm precise
[09:52] <solsTiCe> atomtm: so you want your ntp server to send bogus time stamp ?
[09:52] <atomtm> solsTiCe, bogus?
[09:52] <Mehrzad> !info libgtkmm-3.0-dev
[09:52] <atomtm> solsTiCe, what do you mean by that ?
[09:53] <solsTiCe> atomtm: why do you want it to send your local time ?
[09:53] <k1l_> Mehrzad: you will need to look out for a ppa for that
[09:53] <Mehrzad> So, what terminal commands should I enter to install version 3.14?
[09:53] <atomtm> solsTiCe, I need it for an application
[09:54] <atomtm> solsTiCe, the important part is to send local time
[09:54] <atomtm> brb in 30 min
[09:54] <zen_> WOW, Ubuntu 14.04 is burning up my cpu's :( is 14.10 a better choice?
[09:55] <zen_> i tried P-senser, nvidia-prime. have it set to powersave.. still burning up :(
[09:57] <iptable> zen_, burning up CPUs? install official nvidia driers
[09:57] <iptable> drivers even
[09:58] <iptable> zen_, not just prime.
[09:58] <zen_> i did
[09:58] <iptable> zen_, are they running? dd they compile? lsmod |grep -i nvidia
[09:58] <zen_> and thermald as well
[09:58] <iptable> check above lsmod
[09:58] <iptable> and then what do sensors say? what's the current temp.
[09:59] <zen_> nvidia               9704627  71
[09:59] <zen_> drm                   255469  6 i915,drm_kms_helper,nvidia
[09:59] <iptable> zen_, ok, what's the temp, what's the machine spec
[09:59] <zen_> current temp is 70c with 1-2% load
[10:00] <zen_> Intel® Core™ i3 CPU M 380 @ 2.53GHz × 4
[10:00] <iptable> zen_, fan running really fast or not?
[10:00] <zen_> GeForce GT 540M/PCIe/SSE2
[10:00] <iptable> zen_, if you run top, what does it say about CPU use, what's using it?
[10:00] <zen_> yes.. the fan speeds up very fan and runs way more then it used to in inbuntu 12
[10:01] <zen_> xorg and plugin contain from firefox uses the most
[10:02] <Apk-Ssl> hello
[10:02] <iptable> zen_, if you kill firefox, is it still an issue?
[10:02] <iptable> zen_, also, LOAD is NOT in %
[10:02] <Apk-Ssl> who here is a pc espert ?
[10:02] <Edisto> does unity free unused memory without having to use commands?
[10:03] <zen_> but even with very low loads i get insane temp
[10:03] <iptable> zen_, load of 2 means 200% CPU use (more or less, loads more factors involved there, but take that as a rough guide assuming no network or HDD problems are involved)
[10:03] <k1l_> Edisto: ram or disk space?
[10:03] <Apk-Ssl> .o who here is a pc espert ?
[10:03] <Edisto> ram
[10:03] <iptable> zen_, so, if you kill firefox and wait 5 minutes, what's the temperature?
[10:03] <k1l_> !ask | Apk-Ssl
[10:03] <zen_> thx for the help iptable.. im a little new to linux still
[10:03] <k1l_> Edisto: yes.
[10:03] <zen_> if i kill firefox its still an issue yes
[10:04] <iptable> zen_, typically, I need you to kill firefox and tell me what happens to the temperature
[10:04] <k1l_> Edisto: see linuxatemyram.com for an explanation on how linux uses the ram and why a "full ram" is not the same as you know it from windows.
[10:04] <iptable> zen_, also once you ill firefox, check with top to see what is using the CPU again.
[10:05] <iptable> zen_, also check free ram with free -m (shows in MB). and once done, check if you run xubuntu/lubuntu/ubuntu gnome 14.04 if this is still an issue or just with official main ubuntu. (boot from liveCD/liveUSB to test). We will then know what we are troubleshooting.
[10:06] <zen_> cpu usage dropped to 4% after killing firefox.. temp is still 70c
[10:06] <zen_> xorg is on top
[10:06] <iptable> zen_, where you getting % from?
[10:06] <iptable> zen_, from top output?
[10:07] <Edisto> k1l: thanks. Was trying to figure why my system was slowing must have been gimp and flash plugin from firefox
[10:07] <zen_> from psenser
[10:07] <iptable> ugh
[10:07] <iptable> zen_, ok, apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:07] <iptable> zen_, as root
[10:08] <zen_> em:          3722       2069       1653         29        293        919
[10:08] <iptable> zen_, once done reboot to new kernl (just reboot) and chek again. if issue persists, give us output from top (first full page), full output from dmesg, and output from free -m - all in a pastebin.
[10:08] <zen_> sry.. free mem
[10:09] <iptable> zen_, we don't work with cutouts, full output in passtebin
[10:09] <zen_> ok thanks abunch Iptable, brb
[10:09] <iptable> zen_, I might not be here, but someone else should pick up
[10:10] <iptable> zen_, to clarify, I believe something may be wrong with compatibility of kernel module which handles CPU timing and sleeps
[10:11] <zen_> oki thanks alot ip
[10:11] <zen_> ill do the dist-upgrade
[10:12] <zen_> but i should have the newest.. brb
[10:19] <Pathfinder> Hey guys how do I set netcat to connect to a specific ip via a specific port using a username and password?
[10:23] <yh> On shutdown, is a stop sent to all services started by init.d ?
[10:23] <yh> Disclosure: already asked this on #debian but nobody seems interested in deviating from their existing conversation :)
[10:25] <devhack> leave
[10:25] <ktechmidas> yh: I think it's a SIGTERM then a SIGKILL
[10:26] <ktechmidas> but that's every process, each process should be able to deal with a SIGTERM
[10:26] <DazPetty> hey, I just created RSA keys on my laptop and desktop, and now I can access either without the need for password
[10:27] <DazPetty> I want to know how does PAM work with this?
[10:27] <DazPetty> I dont understand why my system lets this happen? PAM still think I require password and google auth
[10:27] <zen_> iptable, if u are still here. http://pastebin.com/J5rZd6ip
[10:28] <ktechmidas> DazPetty: key auth isn't dealt with by PAM
[10:28] <zen_> i just did a fresh install from 14.04 lts so dist-upgrade didn't do anyting
[10:28] <ktechmidas> DazPetty: key auth actually bypasses the PAM auth module :)
[10:29] <DazPetty> ah
[10:29] <zen_> iptable, feel very free to pm me, if the pastebin outputs tells you anything
[10:32] <devhack> window
[10:33] <yh> ktechmidas: is it not /etc/init.d/servicename stop that gets called, rather than a signal ?
[10:34] <iptable> zen_, apart from firefox, rest looks normal
[10:34] <iptable> WHAT did you open in firefox?
[10:35] <zen_> 2 tabs
[10:35] <zen_> no flash or anything
[10:35] <iptable> zen_, 2 tabs of what? flash?
[10:35] <zen_> playing flash does make it very hot
[10:36] <iptable> zen_, paying flash makes my core i7 hot
[10:36] <zen_> just the pastebin site and a blank one
[10:36] <iptable> zen_, doesn't look right, shouldn't be that load for 2 tabs of nothing. try xubuntu/lubuntu/ubuntu gnome, see what happens then.
[10:36] <iptable> zen_, also do try to check bios settings for acpi/apic
[10:37] <iptable> zen_, pm me when you checked (livecd/usb check will do).
[10:37] <zen_> i just don't understand how it got worse after i went with a fresh install. it was not this bad on ubuntu 12
[10:37] <zen_> oki.. that take some time to get the distros down.. but many thx.. wilml do
[10:37] <zen_> will*
[10:38] <zen_> u want the same outputs. running the other distroes?
[10:38] <iptable> zen_, yes
[10:38] <zen_> ok :)
[10:38] <iptable> zen_, did you fresh install or upgrade?
[10:38] <zen_> fresh install
[10:38] <iptable> zen_, ok
[10:38] <iptable> gotta go
[10:39] <zen_> see you mate. and thx again
[10:39] <Deepfriedice> Hey. I've recently run into an issue where I lose HDMI video signal after logging in on Kubuntu 14.10 (64bit). I can swich to other VTs and still get an image, but trying to view the graphical desktop just cuts straight to the monitors "HDMI No signal" message.
[10:39] <Deepfriedice> I've tried going through some of the system logfiles, but none of them seem to show anything weird. Any idea where else I can look?
[10:42] <brine_> what is the best ubuntu shell around
[10:42] <brine_> need to change my interface
[10:42] <brine_> any help
[10:42] <cfhowlett> brine_, "best" is subjective.  the one that works for you is best.
[10:42] <feneco_> :D
[10:43] <brine_> i know but just one to know what you also think is the best
[10:43] <cfhowlett> brine_, default works fine IMHO
[10:46] <calimero_82> hi, sometimes evince-thumbanailer crashes, what's the problem? thanks
[10:47] <calimero_82> what is evince-thumbnailer?
[10:47] <bluenemo> hi guys. I'm trying to use kvm on a server system via virt-manager, which tells me "No hypervisor options were found". I installed qemu-kvm on the server and executed kvm-ok, which says its ok. Kernel modules are loaded, no strange log messages when I restart service libvirt-bin.
[10:52] <bluenemo> ah got it
[10:53] <loganlee> hello
[10:57] <brine_> any new software out
[10:57] <brine_> any mind blowing software out yet
[10:57] <cfhowlett> brine_, ubuntu and linux have THOUSANDS of packages so, merely statistically, yes there's "new" software all the time
[10:58] <g0tcha> hey guys, anyone here has oidentd working with IPv6 by any chance?
[11:03] <Deepfriedice> Can anyone here help me with my video issue?
[11:04] <cfhowlett> Deepfriedice, details, people, the details!
[11:04] <Deepfriedice> Sure.
[11:04] <Deepfriedice> I've recently run into an issue where I lose HDMI video signal after logging in on Kubuntu 14.10 (64bit). I can swich to other VTs and still get an image, but trying to view the graphical desktop just cuts straight to the monitors "HDMI No signal" message.
[11:04] <Deepfriedice> I've tried going through some of the system logfiles, but none of them seem to show anything weird. Any idea where else I can look?
[11:07] <muresanvlad> Hello guys! I have a big problem.I cant install CodeLite because some libs are missing and I dont know how to fix it
[11:08] <muresanvlad> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:08] <muresanvlad>  codelite : Depends: libhunspell-1.3-0 (>= 1.3.3) but 1.3.2-6ubuntu2 is to be installed
[11:08] <muresanvlad>             Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.9) but 4.8.2-19ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:08] <muresanvlad>             Depends: libwxbase3.0-0 (>= 3.0.2) but it is not going to be installed
[11:08] <muresanvlad>             Depends: libwxgtk3.0-0 (>= 3.0.2) but it is not going to be installed
[11:08] <muresanvlad>             Recommends: lldb (>= 3.4) but it is not installable
[11:11] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[11:12] <yellabs-r2> when logged in with ssh , and the terminal is busy installing software , can i switch to an other console ( terminal ) ?
[11:14] <Deepfriedice> yellabs-r2: Look into "screen".
[11:15] <Deepfriedice> It's a tool for doing exactly that type of thing.
[11:16] <popey> muresanvlad: how are you installing codelite?
[11:19] <yellabs-r2> ok
[11:22] <Ned_> When using 14.04 I used i3 (window manager) and ran gnome-settings-daemon so that things like global media volume keys worked nicely (i.e. used the gnome daemon for it). While I can run unity-settings-daemon (or gnome-settings-daemon) in 15.04, it seems the volume keys don't work (although they do if I actually log in to unity). Anyone have any ideas on that ?
[11:56] <muresanvlad> Has anyone managed to install codelite?
[11:57] <Xatenev> fast question, im using ubuntu, if i drag a window to the border to maximize it, i have to stop moving the mouse for like 1 second to maximize it. if i move the mouse too fast after dragging the window to the border its not maximizing, is that due to a configuration issue or do i just have to change my window manager away from compiz?
[11:57] <Xatenev> dunno if u understand what im asking :p
[11:58] <Johnny_Linux> try it without compiz enabled
[11:59] <Johnny_Linux> ive never used unity, so, maybe thats not possible
[11:59] <Xatenev> Johnny_Linux: ok thanks
[12:00] <Xatenev> what are u using?
[12:00] <Johnny_Linux> mate
[12:03] <ioria> muresanvlad, it's not in the repo ?
[12:03] <muresanvlad> hm>
[12:03] <muresanvlad> hm?
[12:03] <ioria> !info codelite
[12:04] <ioria> muresanvlad, you have to select source , maybe
[12:04] <muresanvlad> Ah,now I get what you mean.I tried to install it from repo and from software center but it gives me the errors I listed above.
[12:04] <hjem> hello guis
[12:04] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:05] <Johnny_Linux> mornin
[12:05] <ioria> muresanvlad, no,it's ok
[12:05] <ioria> muresanvlad, let me try
[12:05] <muresanvlad> okay!
[12:05] <muresanvlad> Thanks
[12:05] <hjem> u guys suck
[12:06] <hjem> no i kidding
[12:06] <Uzzi> vi è la possibilità di lanciare un processo in una sessione video di un utente, da una sessione ssh remota?
[12:06] <cfhowlett> hjem, take your jokes elsewhere please.
[12:06] <sgo11> hi, my wireless network card "Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200" is very unstable. (ubuntu 14.04). the card keeps turning off randomly and I have to reboot my laptop to fix this issue. I did google. Many posts about this problem since the year 2012. there is also a bug: Bug #1180787 which is opened on 2013. Some talk: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1919003.html The same issue in Archlinux: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=197233
[12:06] <Uzzi> oj sorry
[12:07] <yh> cfhowlett: levity is good for the soul
[12:07] <sgo11> Do I have any chances to fix this issue? thanks.
[12:07] <cfhowlett> yh, random insults are against the guidelines.
[12:07] <cfhowlett> !guidelines
[12:08] <muresanvlad> sgo11: your problem sounds like it can be only fixed by a dev
[12:08] <ioria> muresanvlad, it's ok    did you install gcc & company ?
[12:08] <sgo11> muresanvlad, the problem exists from 2012 until now. maybe it's hopeless. :)
[12:09] <muresanvlad> ioria: I have gcc installed
[12:09] <muresanvlad> what do you mean by "company"
[12:09] <muresanvlad> ?
[12:10] <ioria> muresanvlad, purge codelite ,  install build-essential , and reinstall codelite
[12:10] <sgo11> maybe, I should just buy a USB wireless network card. but the speed of a USB wifi card will be slow...
[12:11] <muresanvlad> ioria: done
[12:11] <ioria> muresanvlad, you cannot have done already :-P
[12:12] <muresanvlad> ioria: I have done the command : sudo apt-get install build-essentail some time ago
[12:12] <muresanvlad> http://www.pasteall.org/58537
[12:12] <muresanvlad> ioria: http://www.pasteall.org/58537
[12:13] <ioria> muresanvlad, oh.... that's another story....
[12:13] <k1l> muresanvlad: "apt-cache policy codelite"
[12:14] <muresanvlad> k1l: sudo apt-cache policy codelite - http://www.pasteall.org/58538
[12:16] <k1l> muresanvlad: there you go. the 3rd party repo from codelite is the issue here. tell them to fix the depencies to match the proper vivid packages
[12:17] <bazhang> !info codelite
[12:17] <k1l> muresanvlad: if that is a vivid install at all. or is it a 14.04?
[12:17] <ioria> k1l : i have just installed it....
[12:17] <ioria> sorry
[12:18] <ioria> muresanvlad, gcc -v   and g++ -v ?
[12:18] <k1l> muresanvlad: "lsb_release -d" gives you what?
[12:19] <robhol> Does this crontab line do something unexpected?  */5 * * * * /path/script.py >/path/asd.log 2>/path/errors.log      I was expecting stuff (python script print()s it) in asd.log, errors in errors.log, but nothing shows up anywhere even though the script itself works when invoked manually
[12:20] <valentin_> channel
[12:20] <muresanvlad> k1l: Description:	elementary OS Freya
[12:20] <k1l> muresanvlad: ok, then ask the elementary guys to  fix their stuff, too.
[12:20] <ikonia> yay, elementary
[12:20] <k1l> !elementary | muresanvlad
[12:20] <ioria> muresanvlad, oh....
[12:21] <muresanvlad> what should I tell them?
[12:21] <muresanvlad> what exactly should I tell them*
[12:21] <k1l> (this is why we say you should ask the proper support if its not a ubuntu you are  running. just waisting time finding out its not ubuntus fault....)
[12:22] <cfhowlett> muresanvlad, pro-tip:  ask freya about freya issues.
[12:23] <muresanvlad> Their irc channel is not so active like this.And to be honest I did not know it's an issue related to Freya,cfhowlett
[12:24] <cfhowlett> muresanvlad, as you are running elementary OS, it IS their issue.  not supported here.  sorry.  I assume there are multiple support options.  If you need more than they offer, consider your choice of OS>
[12:25] <Xatenev> Johnny_Linux: Ok im using mate aswell now
[12:25] <Xatenev> Johnny_Linux: works a lot better now^^
[12:25] <Johnny_Linux> ok
[12:32] <snowly> hello folks, i have trouble changing an applications icon on unity launcher. the application is started through another one so there is no .desktop file for it afaik.
[12:34] <snowly> is there a way to change the icon or group the window with the parent application so that i have either the desired icon for the child app or have it under the parents icon in launcher?
[12:40] <lv_> i'm trying to pin a specific kernel version and still run aptitude full-upgrade --- i pinned in /etc/apt/preferences, verified with apt-cache policy linux-image-virtual, but still the kernel upgrades -- any ideas?
[12:41] <lv_> is somehow the kernel exempt from pinning? is there a better way to do this?
[12:42] <b4tm4n> i'm setting up a virtual server that will have two hard drives.  one will be for the OS (ubuntu server) and the other is going to be used for storage (databases and etc).  A colleague suggested I set up the data drive as a logical volume rather than creating a partition.  Does that mean i need to use LVM?
[12:42] <nosdaemon> Is there anyone how make this work when you have em0 and dual nic? My net install stops att select network. d-i netcfg/choose_interface select auto
[12:42] <nosdaemon> I try to change to em0
[12:43] <nosdaemon> But it didnt work
[12:44] <nosdaemon> b4tm4n: Yes, I think so.
[12:45] <b4tm4n> nosdaemon, but i don't really need a logical volume group.  I'm not trying to combine multiple disks into one and i'm not trying to do any striping.
[13:06] <AlexPortable> My touchscreen seems inverted, what can I do to fix it?
[13:06] <AlexPortable> If I press the top right, it presses the top left on the monitor, if I press the right bottom, it presses the top right
[13:09] <AlexPortable> I tried installing sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-evtouch
[13:09] <AlexPortable> but there is no package for this
[13:10] <davidczr> do  guys know about the "fistiniere" ?
[13:11] <cfhowlett> davidczr, off-topic.  play somewhere else please.
[13:12] <PigDude> I’m running an Ubuntu VM via VMWare. ntpd seems to crash on this VM whenever it is paused for some time (whether by pausing the image in VMWare, or by suspending the host OS which has the same effect). (on `sudo service ntpd stop` I get “start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 1248: No such process”, for instance). What logs can I look at to troubleshoot this?
[13:12] <PigDude> The VM is Ubuntu 12.04
[13:13] <ikonia> PigDude: the process is killed at pause
[13:13] <ikonia> because you can't keep a time server running
[13:13] <ikonia> so it can't kill it because the process the pid file is referencing is gone
[13:13] <PigDude> i don’t understand, i never have this issue when suspending a linux host OS
[13:13] <PigDude> (meaning, not a VM)
[13:14] <PigDude> i’ve also never had this issue with a VM before. i just wanted to find out why ntpd was crashing
[13:14] <AlexPortable> Using xinput_calibrator can't help me either
[13:15] <ikonia> PigDude: because time dies
[13:17] <PigDude> was hoping for some other info ... man ntp says I can pass -l $log_path, so I guess I can patch init.d/ntp ... but i expected this to be logged somewhere. your explanation also doesn't make sense ikonia, like i pointed out, i've never had this issue when suspending a Linux OS before, physical or virtual
[13:17] <ikonia> why would -l help ?
[13:18] <PigDude> because it would allow me to specify a log file location, being unable to find any log now, or relevant messages in dmesg, syslog, etc.
[13:18] <PigDude> why *wouldn't* it help?
[13:18] <ikonia> what has the log file got to do with anything ?
[13:18] <PigDude> are you trolling me?
[13:18] <ikonia> no
[13:18] <PigDude> well can you offer some useful advice?
[13:18] <ikonia> PigDude: I have
[13:18] <PigDude> "because time dies" is an idiotic explanation
[13:18] <ikonia> there is nothing idiotic about it
[13:19] <ikonia> it's just high level
[13:19] <PigDude> ok bugger off
[13:19] <ikonia> tone it down
[13:19] <ikonia> there is no need to be rude
[13:19] <PigDude> well i'd appreciate some real help
[13:19] <cfhowlett> PigDude, drop the attitude please
[13:19] <ikonia> I can offer me detail if you explain where you are in debugging
[13:19] <ikonia> so you understand why the error is actually erroring right ?
[13:19] <MrAristo> "it's just high level" - Obviously that didn't help him, so it's not useful.
[13:20] <ikonia> the question was "why do I get this error"
[13:20] <PigDude> no it wasn't!
[13:20] <ikonia> the answer is "because time/ntp is dead"
[13:20] <PigDude> the question was *how do i investigate this*.
[13:20] <PigDude> colored with an assumption that logfiles would be the answer
[13:20] <ikonia> ok - so you understand why you are getting the actual error right ?
[13:21] <digitsm> Hello
[13:21] <PigDude> of course i do ikonia, i'm just teasing you all
[13:21] <digitsm> I have an ubuntu server in Europe, but personally I live in asia
[13:22] <digitsm> Should I set timezone of my server to EU's timezone, or can I set to be my living timezone?
[13:22] <TheNumb> digitsm: I always set them to my timezone.
[13:22] <digitsm> TheNumb, Oh, so I won't get any problem in the future?
[13:22] <TheNumb> digitsm: It's *your* server after all ;-)
[13:22] <TheNumb> digitsm: everything will work just fine.
[13:23] <TheNumb> It's just a timezone.
[13:23] <PigDude> digitsm: i set to the host timezone or UTC. you can export TZ in your bashrc for local timezone, etc.
[13:24] <digitsm> TheNumb, I am not sure whether a different timezone than your geographical timezone can make a problem or not?
[13:24] <digitsm> For example problems in SSL, some communications, etc.
[13:25] <mcphail> digitsm: the timezone is different, but the _time_ is the same. Set it to what suits you best and be heppy. Everything will be fine
[13:25] <digitsm> mcphail, Hmmm. Thanks
[13:26] <mcphail> digitsm: if the server was only being used by you, you'll probably prefer your own timezone. If it is being shared by your European colleagues, you can set to UTC or have a fight :)
[13:29] <digitsm> mcphail, Hmmm. No it's only mine. It's  a personal VPS
[13:29] <kopele> any ideia how to install kasteroids ? :d
[13:30] <cfhowlett> !info kasteroids
[13:30] <kopele> it`s an old game on kde
[13:30] <kopele> i remember it from 6-7 years ago
[13:30] <mcphail> digitsm: the VPS is "yours", though.
[13:32] <TheNumb> kopele: it's dead.
[13:32] <digitsm> mcphail, I never had any vps before. I am excited about abilities it can bring to me
[13:33] <mcphail> digitsm: enjoy it, and enjoy running Ubuntu on it
[13:33] <kopele> TheNumb, damn :D
[13:34] <kostkon> !find kasteroids
[13:35] <chintan> hi
[13:36] <chintan> i have issue when do call in skype. when someone share screen with me from windows i can not see clear screen
[13:36] <chintan> any one have solution for this ?
[13:42] <hamid9041> hi all
[13:42] <hamid9041> any body
[13:42] <hamid9041> ??
[13:43] <asdasdasda> yep
[13:43] <cfhowlett> !ask | hamid9041
[13:43] <hamid9041> hi
[13:43] <hamid9041> i have problem with adding repos to ubuntu
[13:43] <hamid9041> im from iran
[13:43] <cfhowlett> !repos | hamid9041,
[13:43] <cfhowlett> !farsi | hamid9041
[13:44] <hamid9041> ok thanx
[13:46] <hamid9041> sorry guys
[13:46] <hamid9041> but no one answered me
[13:46] <hamid9041> there
[13:46] <hamid9041> ok
[13:46] <hamid9041> so
[13:46] <cfhowlett> hamid9041, what version of ubuntu do you have?\
[13:47] <hamid9041> the latest lts
[13:47] <hamid9041> 14.04.2
[13:47] <cfhowlett> hamid9041, good.  what repo are you adding?
[13:47] <hamid9041> universe
[13:47] <hamid9041> let me tell u
[13:48] <hamid9041> even when i try it from app center it tells me check ur internet connection
[13:48] <cfhowlett> hamid9041, "it..."   ????
[13:49] <hamid9041> do u think its because of censorship
[13:49] <hamid9041> i mean adding the repo
[13:49] <cfhowlett> hamid9041, iran?  possible.
[13:49] <hamid9041> i mean should i use vpn or somthing
[13:50] <cfhowlett> hamid9041, WHICH repo?
[13:50] <hamid9041> and if yes
[13:50] <cfhowlett> hamid9041, if you have vpn, use it.
[13:50] <hamid9041> how can i set a vpn/proxy
[13:50] <cfhowlett> !vpn | hamid9041
[13:50] <mcphail> hamid9041: maybe - you could try a different mirror first: the one you are using may not have universe
[13:51] <hamid9041> explian more mcphail
[13:51] <hamid9041> what do u mean by mirror
[13:52] <hamid9041> i checked it
[13:52] <hamid9041> i mean the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[13:55] <hamid9041> but the problem is first i need to add repo
[13:55] <hamid9041> i mean universe repo
[13:55] <mcphail> hamid9041: under /etc/apt/sources.list (and the sources directory) will be files listing your mirrors for the repositories. That is set up when you install, but you can switch to other mirrors from elsewhere in the world
[13:55] <hamid9041> then i can install pkges from it
[13:55] <SNow> Hi, I have ubuntu 15.04 and when I do ip -6 addr add 2A03:280:6000::2/64 dev eth0
[13:55] <hamid9041> ahhha thats interesting
[13:55] <SNow> I get operation not permitted
[13:55] <ciccio> someone up to help with a permission issue
[13:55] <ciccio> ?
[13:55] <hamid9041> how can i change the mirror
[13:55] <hamid9041> ?
[13:55] <jellow> !ask | ciccio
[13:55] <MrElendig> SNow: as root?
[13:55] <EriC^^> ciccio: what's up?
[13:55] <MrElendig> ciccio: permission denied
[13:55] <ciccio> lol
[13:55] <SNow> MrElendig: yes
[13:56] <ciccio> ok the thing is that i have a drive mounted in /media/xxx/
[13:59] <ciccio> and need to set up a web-server with apache, i symlink from /var/www to /media/xxx/yyyy/my/public/folder and, after enabling the site i get 403 permission denied
[13:59] <ciccio> so I try to login with www-data (the user apache uses to connect to the server) and discovered that that user cannot access /media/xxx
[13:59] <ciccio> i suspect it is a permission problem. any idea?
[13:59] <aikidouke> so i believe i pulled a bonehead move adding myself to groups and am no longer in sudoers. How do I re-add myself?
[13:59] <ciccio> these are the permissions for the /media/xxxx: drwxr-xr--+
[14:03] <aikidouke> n/m sorry, I RTFM
[14:03] <aikidouke> :)
[14:09] <ssalenik> Hi, not sure if its the best place to ask, but I added my google account to my addressbook via gnome(ubuntu?)-online-accounts in 14.04.. later I upgarded to 14.10 and the account seemed to be gone, so I added it again. But now sometimes when my addressbooks load I get 2 sets of google contacts leading me to believe that the first addressbook is still there, just not recognized by the updated version of goa. What would be the best way for me to
[14:09] <ssalenik> delete the old addressbook?
[14:25] <metallic> a
[14:26]  * metallic rolls 2 6-sided dice: 2 5
[14:26] <metallic> sorry people if you read odd things from me :/ I am getting used to pidgin
[14:26] <nothingmuch> I recently bought a lenovo w550s laptop, and installed xubuntu which has been working fine for several days. since this afternoon the system fails to boot, it seems to hang before init/upstarts gets going, on both the installed system and the live cd. ctrl alt del reboots it. on the live cd switching to tty output from the splash screen works and it hangs after the nouveau drivers load, on the installed version ti hangs after discovering the trackpad (th
[14:26] <nothingmuch> random pool message shows up a bit after that) and switching with ctrl-alt-f1 etc just puts escape sequences on the screen. recovery mode fails in the same way, never getting past that point either
[14:26] <nothingmuch> heh, just as i was going to speculate that it’s btfs a message showed up on the screen
[14:26] <nothingmuch> how do i avoid mounting it so that I can reinstall?
[14:26] <mcphail> nothingmuch: May not help, but I had a similar problem a few months ago. It was related to windows-specific "fast boot" options in the bios. All sorted when I switched those off. Worth a look?
[14:26] <nothingmuch> i tried fiddling with those bios parameters, it doesn’t seem to make a difference
[14:26] <mcphail> nothingmuch: ok
[14:26] <nothingmuch> i had issues with the internal battery, so i pulled out the external one to test
[14:26] <nothingmuch> ==> unclean shutdown
[14:26] <nothingmuch> and btfs just confirmed my suspicions ;-)
[14:26] <nothingmuch> i was just too impatient to notice it before
[14:29] <mengtu> hello
[14:29] <mengtu> who?
[14:29] <hamid9041> hi
[14:29] <nothingmuch> adding the arg break=premount let me go into fdisk and zap the offending partition so i can reinstall
[14:29] <hamid9041> how to change mirror in ubuntu
[14:29] <xangua> hamid9041: software center, edit menu, sources
[14:29] <Voyage>  how to write automated scripts for linux with max possibilities and control?
[14:29] <nothingmuch> Voyage: i think you need to be a bit more specific than that… you mean scheduled tasks?
[14:29] <Elysia> Voyage: look up a bash tutorial and become master of all things.
[14:29] <asdkjh> Hello, I just installed Xubuntu 14.04 and the highest screen resolution I can get is 1024x768 which is pretty low, I tried modifying the xorg.conf file but it didn't work, I tried this command: xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1280x1024 --rate 60, my screen flashed and I didn't get any error, but the resolution didn't change at all.. any thoughts? thanks!
[14:29] <Voyage> nothingmuch,  you know scripts that would do stuff that I do in commandline. rsync ssh, copy files, change configs, connect to another server, do stuff, return back. what ever.......
[14:29] <asdkjh> sorry, I got this error: xrandr: cannot find mode 1280x1024
[14:29] <Voyage> Elysia, ^
[14:29] <Voyage> nothingmuch,  Elysia  so bash is one option or bash is the only best option?
[14:29] <Elysia> Voyage: yeah, that's mostly just a shell/bash file.  it's just a series of instructions
[14:29] <nothingmuch> Voyage: what Elysia said… your command line is a scripting envrionment
[14:29] <Voyage> nothingmuch,  Elysia  ok. any other ways?
[14:29] <nothingmuch> if you want to flash back to the 80s then you can learn csh/tcsh, otherwise bash is pretty much standard
[14:29] <Elysia> Voyage: was there something unsatisfactory with bash?
[14:29] <nothingmuch> zsh is perhaps nicer as an interactive shell but will make little difference for programming
[14:30] <Elysia> Voyage: there are things you can install that offer GUIs, but without clear purpose, it is hard to recommend or judge what you need.
[14:30] <Voyage> Elysia,  nothingmuch  I just heard that doing this with python is smarter?
[14:30] <Elysia> well, nearly every programming language allows you to call command line (os) functions and interact with them in your own way.
[14:30] <Elysia> but your question is overly vague and it need not be.  I suggest you just ask what you'd like to achieve.
[14:31] <nothingmuch> it depends on the task at hand… python, perl, ruby, etc are more general purpose programming languages, all of which have numerous libraries for calling out to external commands, and doing much more complicated interprocess communication etc… shell scripting is optimized for that task in the language itself
[14:31] <nothingmuch> you can also write shell scripts that use python or any other languages, or write programs in those languages that use shell scripts
[14:31] <nothingmuch> it all depends on what you know and what you’re trying to achieve
[14:32] <nothingmuch> it sounds like you’re trying to automate administration, in which case maybe you’d rather look at a tool for managing installations/deployment
[14:32] <Voyage> nothingmuch, k
[14:32] <kryptsec> hi
[14:33] <kryptsec> lel
[14:33] <Elysia> yo kryptsec
[14:33] <kryptsec> hi
[14:35] <Voyage> Elysia,  Nothing4You  can anyone give an example of things that cannot be done by bash and we need python to do so?
[14:36] <mcphail> Voyage: floating point arithmetic
[14:36] <Voyage> mcphail,  hm ok. thats on that python can do and bash cant?
[14:37] <mcphail> yes
[14:37] <Voyage> pcarrier,  can we mix pythong scrypt in bash file?
[14:37] <Elysia> are you just randomly highlighting people
[14:38] <Elysia> i think it might be time you do some research for yourself. I'm not sure if we're getting anywhere to the core of your question
[14:39] <Nothing4You> Voyage: no
[14:39] <Nothing4You> i cannot help you
[14:46] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[14:50] <linuxuz3r> hi
[14:52] <kokut> so if i give permission of a folder to a group all the members of the group have permissino right?
[14:57] <Ntemis> help me fix 14.04 please
[14:59] <Apple314> Hello all. Running ubuntu 14.10 64, all is well, but I dont understand why there is dhcpclient sitting on 2 random ports, besides port 68. Thanks in advance.
[14:59] <Ntemis> i have distro packages issues please someone help me out switch back to my trusty name http://pastebin.com/5q71za7r
[15:00] <Ntemis> can someone tell me how to fix this issue?
[15:02] <hasan> hi all. I am missing websrvmng from plesk. any hints where I can find it? which package does it belong to?
[15:05] <ioria> Ntemis did you install a ppa ?
[15:06] <Ntemis> ioria: aha :(
[15:06] <Ntemis> fixed
[15:06] <Ntemis> edited /etc/lsbrelease
[15:07] <Ntemis> now ubuntu center works ok
[15:07] <ioria> Ntemis yep    take a look : http://askubuntu.com/questions/147279/importerror-no-module-named-peppermint-after-installing-ice-from-peppermint
[15:07] <k1l> Ntemis: what ubuntu is that? or is it some other os?
[15:07] <Ntemis> deepin china  os
[15:08] <Ntemis> was tryint to install a package from them
[15:08] <Ntemis> and f** up my system
[15:08] <k1l> Ntemis: well, that sort of trouble is expected if you have a non official ubuntu version
[15:08] <Ntemis> even grub has deepin in kernel selection
[15:09] <ioria> Ntemis what you mean ? ^o^
[15:09] <islandmonkeee> Hi all, I have a Lenovo Z500 with a combo jack. Today I bought a splitter so I could record input from my synthesiser, but I am having no luck. The only indication that ALSA is finding something is that when I turn the volume on the microphone setting down, the noise that comes with the splitter decreases (this is not really a problem its a bit of loose connection). I have no problems with hearing what is coming
[15:09] <islandmonkeee> through my synth via the splitter though.
[15:09] <Ntemis> k1l: my ubuntu is official
[15:09] <Ntemis> 14.04
[15:09] <Ntemis> bootloader is edited with deepin name
[15:09] <Ntemis> ioria:
[15:10] <ioria> Ntemis ok
[15:10] <PanV> Heyo
[15:10] <k1l> Ntemis: you said you changed lsb-release and installed deepin packages
[15:10] <Ntemis> no
[15:11] <Ntemis> installed a deepin package from ppa and THAT edited my lsb*
[15:11] <PanV> I am a new Ubuntu user and I really like it by now. But... I really need help spicibng ubuntu. Could I have some help?
[15:11] <Ntemis> and grub
[15:11] <PanV> *spicing
[15:11] <Ntemis> add peper
[15:11] <islandmonkeee> Output of aplay -L, list of devices and aplay -l: http://pastebin.com/3fkrf0Jm
[15:11] <PanV> Could you explain me what are those? Or I shall google it? :P
[15:12] <PanV> Oops soz.
[15:12] <Ntemis> my laptop with vivid has reboot freezes with systemd, any fixes ahead?
[15:12] <ioria> Ntemis i don't trust so much ppa .... too much trobles
[15:12] <Ntemis> ioria: yeap seems like it
[15:12] <islandmonkeee> PanV: So you wish to customise the appearance of Ubuntu?
[15:12] <hjf> is it possible to enable root logins via ssh? I'm using ubuntu on Amazon EC2. I need to be root. NOT sudo root. i need to port forward a low port and that can only be done by root
[15:12] <ioria> *trubles
 my laptop with vivid has reboot freezes with systemd, any fixes ahead? : Try Werewolf. :)
[15:13] <Ntemis> werewolf?
[15:14] <blorg> Ubuntu 15.10
[15:14] <k1l> blorg: Ntemis 15.10 is earliest alpha. that is not gonna help a regular user
[15:14] <Ntemis> is out?
[15:14] <PanV> Excuse me, could I interrupt one of you, or pm you about my problem, because my problem is not that important than Ntemis's seems.
[15:14] <islandmonkeee> PanV: I asked you what you wanted!
[15:14] <PanV> Oops sorry I didnt see it
[15:14] <PanV> I am a new Ubuntu user
[15:15] <PanV> everything works perfect by now
[15:15] <PanV> but I want to.. "spice" it up
[15:15] <blib> does anyone know of a good GPS I can buy that will work with ubuntu and is USB?
[15:15] <linuxuz3r> hi
[15:15] <PanV> any suggestions?
[15:15] <linuxuz3r> xD
[15:15] <islandmonkeee> PanV: In what fashion? In terms of looks/eye candy or something different?
[15:16] <Ntemis> PanV: here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice
[15:16] <PanV> I think in terms of looks
[15:16] <islandmonkeee> Hi all, I have a Lenovo Z500 with a combo jack. Today I bought a splitter so I could record input from my synthesiser, but I am having no luck. The only indication that ALSA is finding something is that when I turn the volume on the microphone setting down, the noise that comes with the splitter decreases (this is not really a problem its a bit of loose connection). I have no problems with hearing what is coming
[15:16] <islandmonkeee> through my synth via the splitter though.
[15:16] <islandmonkeee> Output of aplay -L, list of devices and aplay -l: http://pastebin.com/3fkrf0Jm
[15:16] <nandoe> Ubuntu 15.10 code name werewolf? I waiting for final release :D
[15:16] <PanV> I like werewolfs, I prefer Unicorns....... -.-
[15:17] <Ntemis> am looking forward for next LTS release my self
[15:17] <PanV> Ntemis, I am not sure this was exactly I was looking for.
[15:17] <Ntemis> i was teasing you man
[15:17] <islandmonkeee> PanV: Ah, a good tool for that is Unity Tweak Tool: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/unity-tweak-tool/
[15:17] <PanV> ik :P
[15:17] <Ntemis> you should try google for themes/icons
[15:17] <hjf> is it possible to enable root logins via ssh? I'm using ubuntu on Amazon EC2. I need to be root. NOT sudo root. i need to port forward a low port and that can only be done by root
[15:17] <islandmonkeee> PanV: But yes, of course, you can always install custom themes as well
[15:17] <PanV> Ntemis, UBUNTU HAS CUSTOMIZABLE THEMES?!?!?
[15:18] <PanV> the *
[15:18] <Ntemis> Search for noobslab ;)
[15:18] <PanV> noobslab is... installer for themes?
[15:18] <Ntemis> i have it look like a mac OS my self
[15:18] <Ntemis> with MATE 1.8.2
[15:18] <islandmonkeee> PanV: No, that's a PPA
[15:18] <islandmonkeee> http://www.maketecheasier.com/gtk-themes-for-linux/
[15:19] <PanV> Unity Tweak Tool seems interesting, thank you for your help. If I need anything else I will post here
[15:19] <pavlos> hjf, http://askubuntu.com/questions/469143/how-to-enable-ssh-root-access-on-ubuntu-14-04
[15:19] <Ntemis> PanV: check this out http://www.noobslab.com/2015/05/mbuntu-y-macbuntu-transformation-pack.html
[15:20] <PanV> omg... thank you so much.
[15:20] <xangua> worst theme ever Ntemis
[15:20] <Ntemis> PanV: http://www.noobslab.com/2015/05/all-icon-sets-are-now-available-for.html
[15:20] <ricard> I installed the kernel 3.16.0-37 putting sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-utopic because sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I did not update anything
[15:21] <PanV> I prefer Unity Tweak tool, but thanks, I will have a look at it
[15:21] <Ntemis> xangua: i cherry-pick what i install and tweak over to suit my taste
[15:21] <Ntemis> example i use cairo dock my self
[15:21] <Johnny_Linux> you dont need all that to make it look like a mac, cairo-dock and a couple wallpapers do a better job.
[15:21] <k1l> PanV: just go on the hunt for screenshots of ubuntu desktops or theming pages. most guys write down what they used so you can get that too if you liked it
[15:21] <hjf> pavlos: Permission denied (publickey).
[15:22] <PanV> :) Thanks.
[15:22] <ricard> please help
[15:22] <PanV> I thought I was screwed with that Desktop. Now I am saved and can customize it even more. Screw you Mac and Windows! :D UBUNTU rocks
[15:23] <islandmonkeee> Hi all, I have a Lenovo Z500 with a combo jack. Today I bought a splitter so I could record input from my synthesiser, but I am having no luck. The only indication that ALSA is finding something is that when I turn the volume on the microphone setting down, the noise that comes with the splitter decreases (this is not really a problem its a bit of loose connection). I have no problems with hearing what is coming
[15:23] <islandmonkeee> through my synth via the splitter though.
[15:23] <islandmonkeee> Output of aplay -L, list of devices and aplay -l: http://pastebin.com/3fkrf0Jm
[15:23] <PanV> *Too complicated for me* and I thought I had some skill with computers.
[15:24] <ricard> I installed the kernel 3.16.0-37 putting sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-utopic because sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I did not update anything
[15:25] <k1l> ricard: what ubuntu are you running?
[15:25] <k1l> ricard: and what is the issue?
[15:25] <ricard> 14.04
[15:25] <PanV> Wait, can I change the "where the bar with programs" is?
[15:25] <k1l> PanV: with unity its on the left side.
[15:25] <xangua> PanV: no
[15:26] <k1l> PanV: but you could run another launcher bar or use another desktop
[15:26] <PanV> I can change it kil?
[15:26] <PanV> Oh wait.
[15:26] <PanV> Thanks
[15:26] <blib> does GlobalSat BU-353-S4 USB GPS  work on ubuntu? Is there an easy way to check?
[15:27] <ricard> I've done well
[15:29] <ki7mt> ricard, I dont understand your problem, you installed a kernel manually, is it not working or something?
[15:29] <k1l> ricard: if you installed 14.04 or 14.04.1 you will need to install that enablement stack kernel like you did. just 14.04.2 comes pre installed with 3.16
[15:30] <k1l> ricard: butbe aware of the shorter support from that kernel
[15:30] <k1l> !enablementstack | ricard
[15:31] <cyking> Is there anyone that can assist me with a kernel bisect / bug report?  Please?
[15:31] <hremd> hi folks
[15:32] <A1F4> hello
[15:32] <ricard> do not use the same desktop and everything is fine but I want to know if I have done well
[15:32] <ricard> do not use the same desktop and everything is fine but I want to know if I have done well
[15:32] <hremd> there is some issue with lubuntu root pass does not work in terminal  and when I want to install extra language support via settings it says it cant do it and adviced sudo apt-get install -f
[15:32] <hremd> whats the easiest way to reset user sudo pass
[15:33] <Blueking> forgot passwd ?
[15:33] <k1l> hremd: sudo pass is the same as user pass
[15:33] <hremd> kll yes however user claims she changed it via GUI
[15:34] <hremd> now it works via logon in terminal no
[15:34] <k1l> then its still the same for her when she wants to use sudo
[15:34] <sh0t> HI guys can anyone tell me what's wrong with this very simple Makefile: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11227062/ i get Makefile:9: *** missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?).  Stop.
[15:34] <sh0t>  when i try to make
[15:34] <flaburgan> hi guys, just log in on the wiki.ubuntu.com for the first time, looks like I can't edit this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/diaspora
[15:34] <hremd> kll I have tried it I can login with it
[15:34] <hremd> however sudo does not work
[15:35] <hremd> so perhaps simply reset it somehow without reinstall
[15:35] <k1l> there is no root password. its always the users password. only thing is the user needs permission to use sudo
[15:35] <hremd> kll correct
[15:35] <hremd> and that same pass does not work in terminal when use sudo there
[15:35] <k1l> is she in the sudo group?
[15:36] <mcphail> sh0t: The error message tells you your problems...
[15:37] <hremd> kll sudo:x:27:niina
[15:37] <hremd> seems like it
[15:37] <mcphail> sh0t: Makefiles are specific about whitespace - the "indents" for the recipes have to be tabs instead of spaces
[15:37] <Midoshi27> I have an ubuntu web server and I just checked auth.log... I'm getting mutliple failed attempts for login from some unknown ip address on random ports for ssh2. I looked up the IP address... some China Telecom Jiangsu company. I'll be blocking them with iptables but is there more I should do to prevent them from even attempting to crack into my server?
[15:38] <t3kg33k> Greetings all
[15:38] <PanV> Heyop
[15:38] <hremd> kll any more ideas?
[15:38] <t3kg33k> Any Conky experts here?
[15:38] <pbx> Midoshi27, that's not an ubuntu question per se but it's a common problem.
[15:38] <sh0t> yeah mcphail thanks do u know how i can fix it
[15:38] <sh0t> ?
[15:39] <Midoshi27> pbx: can you still help me? Or direct me in the right direction?
[15:39] <hremd> I could enable root temp however I need sudo pass to work for it too
[15:39] <hremd> lol
[15:39] <SchrodingersScat> !info fail2ban | Midoshi27
[15:39] <t3kg33k> I want to display the Desktop Environment name with my Conky and I can't find the variable
[15:39] <mcphail> sh0t: change the spaces to tabs. Make sure your editor doesn't cheat and switch them back to spaces
[15:39] <SchrodingersScat> Midoshi27: maybe if you host enough freedom, you will get banned on great firewall, solves problem on their end?
[15:40] <Midoshi27> ubottu: thanks robot!
[15:40] <flaburgan> anyone to explain me how the wiki works?
[15:40] <mcphail> sh0t: btw, that is a fairly useless makefile. It won't detect and rebuild an individual component when a single source file changes. You'd have been as well just writing a shell script
[15:40] <flaburgan> who has write permission on wiki.ubuntu.com/diaspora?
[15:40] <hremd> kll maybe visudo is corrupt_
[15:40] <pbx> Midoshi27, sounds like you're doing the right things.  block ip ranges if the failed attempts annoy you. for hardening, you could turn off password auth and just use ssh keys. e.g. https://www.debian-administration.org/article/530/SSH_with_authentication_key_instead_of_password
[15:41] <sh0t> thanks mcphail %s/^ \{8}/^V<Tab>/ this worked
[15:41] <Brayden5234> Hello
[15:41] <k1l> hremd: well. now it depends what the user did there.
[15:41] <Brayden5234> I have a support question.
[15:41] <mcphail> sh0t: a lot of editors do stupid things like converting tabs to spaces. Causes endless frustration
[15:42] <reetbear> Brayden5234: ask and see
[15:42] <Brayden5234> Is it possible to run Ubuntu off of a 3tb external hard drive? But like when you make changes or download something when you are running ubuntu it saves if you shutdown the computer?
[15:42] <mcphail> sh0t: (of course, the real problem is "make" being specific about whitespace. That was always a bad design)
[15:42] <hremd> kll imo she used gui to change user pass
[15:42] <hremd> and it backfired
[15:42] <al2o3-cr> Brayden5234: sure
[15:43] <hremd> I cant open visudo as it needs sudo lol
[15:43] <Brayden5234> How?
[15:43] <hremd> maybe boot for live cd and change visudo from there?=
[15:43] <mcphail> Brayden5234: I was just reading a blog from popey explaining this process...
[15:43] <hremd> from
[15:43] <k1l> !password | hremd
[15:43] <hremd> kll password does not work :D
[15:44] <Brayden5234> Oh really mcphai? Can you give me the link please? Thank you.
[15:44] <popey> Brayden5234: yeah, you can do that - as mcphail says http://popey.com/blog/2015/03/25/making-a-portable-persistent-ubuntu-usb-stick/
[15:44] <k1l> hremd: afaik changing the password in gui works. dont know what was done or where it failed.
[15:44] <popey> Brayden5234: I used a usb stick but you can do it with a hard drive in a caddy
[15:44] <Brayden5234> Thank you guys so much :D
[15:44] <popey> np
[15:44] <k1l> hremd: the bot mentions the lost password link. see that
[15:44] <mcphail> popey: I wasn't stalking you, honest :)
[15:44] <popey> hah
[15:45] <reetbear> Brayden5234: helpful
[15:45] <Brayden5234> So when I install Java or install a game on the ubuntu running off the hard drive and I turn off the computer and turn it back on it will save?
[15:45] <mcphail> Brayden5234: yes
[15:45] <hremd> kll ty
[15:45] <hremd> its clear now
[15:45] <sh0t> yeah mcphail it seems to be an issue as i keep reading
[15:45] <Brayden5234> Awesome just what I was looking for :D
[15:45] <sh0t> is cmake something better?
[15:46] <mcphail> sh0t: cmake isn't a replacemant for make. It replaces autotools. You still use make at the end
[15:46] <reetbear> Brayden5234: mcphail he's running a hard drive not a thumb drive
[15:46] <mcphail> reetbear: that doesn't change anything
[15:46] <sh0t> ok mcphail thanks i still have to read a lot about these tools
[15:47] <sh0t> thanksa gain.
[15:47] <b4tm4n> is there a difference between mkfs /dev/sdb and mkfs /dev/sdb1
[15:47] <Brayden5234> Yeah I need to put it on a 3.0 USB 3TB external harddrive
[15:47] <mcphail> sh0t: worthwhile learning how to write a proper makefile. It makes life a lot easier. And I'd recommend the autotools book (?by caldicott) if you want to learn how to automate the process
[15:48] <mcphail> sh0t: john calcote, not caldicott
[15:49] <mcphail> sh0t: http://www.nostarch.com/autotools.htm
[15:49] <reetbear> Brayden5234: set bios or efi to boot from that drive. Install normal to that drive
[15:49] <ki7mt> ^That is a good autotools book
[15:50] <Brayden5234> Reetbear why send those messages to me? He sent racial and hatful personal messages to me. :(
[15:50] <b4tm4n> same here
[15:50] <Brayden5234> Why? What did I do?
[15:51] <reetbear> Brayden5234: that is a stinking slandering lie
[15:51] <reetbear> b4tm4n: you liar
[15:51] <b4tm4n> reetbear, right, we're ganging up on you...
[15:52] <xangua> take it elsewhere
[15:52] <M4ca> Hi... why there isn't the Chromium 45 in the repos?? I have the version 41
[15:52] <b4tm4n> is it possible to create a logical volume without lvm?
[15:53] <Brayden5234> Guys these are the messages reetbear sent me for no reason. http://i.imgur.com/vDLSopg.png
[15:54] <Brayden5234> Reetbear you are a lier, can someone ban him? Well I really do not know how these chat's work but if a mod could it would be nice.
[15:54] <PanV> 1 op is online, 1845 are online. I think about... 90% is afk.
[15:54] <PanV> Including the op
[15:55]  * PanV is bored.
[15:55] <ki7mt> There are many more ops in the channel than one, they just don't have channwl ops assigned to the all the time, which is the right way to be.
[15:56] <k1l> guys, he is made gone. so lets focus back on support. if there is further pm harassment while he is not in this channel anymore report to #freenode for network staff to handle that
[15:56] <Brayden5234> Alright thank you k1l sorry for getting off-topic.
[15:58] <Brayden5234> Alright so I must have Ubuntu or a linux OS to do what I said above?
[15:58] <Brayden5234> The guide here: http://popey.com/blog/2015/03/25/making-a-portable-persistent-ubuntu-usb-stick/      is a guide for linux. What about windows?
[15:59] <k1l> Brayden5234: for windows support ask in ##windows
[15:59] <PanV> Support: I want to get some themes with the help of NoobsLab. MacBuntu OS Y Theme, Icons and cursors... but I cannot install those.
[15:59] <PanV> i have installed ppa:noobslab/themes
[16:00] <youdmaniw> Brayden5234: no
[16:00] <Brayden5234> Alright will do k1l
[16:00] <mcphail> Brayden5234: you can try installing onto the USB drive directly from an install USB stick
[16:01] <Brayden5234> mcphail what? I didn't follow that sorry.
[16:01] <k1l> PanV: what ubuntu are you on? "lsb_release -d"
[16:01] <PanV> 14.04
[16:01] <daftykins> Brayden5234: do you also have a flash drive spare? you can boot that and install to this external HDD.
[16:01] <PanV> Lts
[16:01] <PanV> 14.04.2
[16:01] <ki7mt> Windows installed on USB stick? Don't think that is possible (may be wrong), even if it were, would be old-dog slow
[16:01] <mcphail> Brayden5234: download ubuntu, put the installer on a USB stick, reboot into the installer and choose to install onto your external USB drive. It often works, but sometimes needs some tweaking
[16:01] <Brayden5234> ooohhhhhhh that is brilliant daftykins! Does it really work though?
[16:02] <PanV> ki7mt, it is possible, since it is on a drive.
[16:02] <k1l> PanV: so what package do you want to install now?
[16:02] <daftykins> Brayden5234: well i'm suggesting installing properly, not any of this persistence rubbish
[16:02] <ki7mt> He said Stick .. not drive
[16:02] <youdmaniw> Brayden5234: your drive will appear as a internal drive
[16:02] <reisio> it's possible, but not fun
[16:02] <PanV> I have installed ppa:noobslab/themes
[16:02] <reisio> Microsoft isn't really a fan of flexibility
[16:02] <Brayden5234> Alright yeah that makes sense that you
[16:02] <reisio> dunno why, they could just charge for it
[16:02] <jost> Hi... I just updated from XUbuntu 14.04.2 to 15.04. Now my VPN connection does not work any longer, although the configuration stayed the same. Can someone help me debug it? Here is the relevant part of the syslog: http://dpaste.com/119XH1Z
[16:02] <PanV> but I cant get the mbuntu-y-ithemes-v5 or
[16:02] <PanV> mbuntu-y-icons-v5
[16:02] <reisio> probably because they only bought the OS, and don't know the full ramifications
[16:02] <cowbacon> you can also do it in virtualbox. attach usb hdd to vm. install to the usbhdd
[16:03] <daftykins> Brayden5234: i'm referring to Ubuntu there of course, you can't do this with Windows.
[16:03] <youdmaniw> jost: one word. SYSTEMD
[16:03] <k1l> PanV: its only v4 in that ppa for 14.04
[16:03] <Brayden5234> Yeah I want to do it with ubuntu not windows
[16:03] <PanV> So.. I cant have it?
[16:03] <Brayden5234> I want to put Ubuntu on an external hard drive
[16:03] <k1l> PanV: see this list. its sorted for the 14.04 version already: https://launchpad.net/~noobslab/+archive/ubuntu/themes?field.series_filter=trusty
[16:03] <EriC^^> Brayden5234: do you currently have ubuntu installed?
[16:03] <PanV> Thanks
[16:03] <jost> youdmaniw: ok... how to fix it?
[16:03] <daftykins> Brayden5234: yes so put it on a flash drive first.
[16:03] <reisio> Brayden5234: that you can plug into random boxes?
[16:03] <Brayden5234> No I have windows 8
[16:03] <PanV> Brayden5234, you can install I think Ubuntu on any drive.
[16:04] <Brayden5234> So put ubuntu with unetbootin on a flash drive. Boot my PC with that then plugin my harddrive and install ubuntu on to it?
[16:04] <daftykins> don't use unetbootin, use UUI from pendrivelinux.com
[16:04] <Brayden5234> Oh alright
[16:04] <PanV> Brayden5234, use UNetBootIn, I did this on Windows 8. Then launched the USB Stick, chose "Try Ubuntu without installing" and in the desktop there is an icon
[16:04] <Brayden5234> Why?
[16:04] <PanV> daftykins, in windows 8 it is better
[16:05] <PanV> I believe it is a better solution.
[16:05] <Guest8000> If I have 3 servers and I wish them to have the same date & time down to microseconds, is ntpdate the way to do it?
[16:05] <daftykins> Brayden5234: yep, then boot "try ubuntu" and come on webchat from here - because you'll need to make two critical changes to make this work properly and not mess with your Windows install
[16:05] <daftykins> PanV: "it" ?
[16:05] <daftykins> unetbootin is not better than UUI :)
[16:05] <PanV> ? UNetBootIn
[16:05] <PanV> than pendrivers
[16:05] <Brayden5234> Alright will do. Be back on here later
[16:05] <PanV> Well, it worked fo rm
[16:05] <BluesKaj> jost,  "The synchronous pptp option is NOT activated" is there an option to activate that?
[16:05] <PanV> for me better
[16:05] <youdmaniw> Jost all scripts are handled by systemd now, not upstart. Subunit in version 15.04 just threw it in without changing the scripts
[16:05] <daftykins> PanV: so you're claiming you used both programs and UUI caused trouble?
[16:06] <PanV> I claim I used Pendrivers.
[16:06] <PanV> but it didnt work for me good.
[16:06] <daftykins> i don't know what that is.
[16:06] <PanV> but UNetBootIn helped me.
[16:06] <PanV> it installed and launched the USB stick
[16:06] <daftykins> ok well that's all well and good, but you're one user - versus all the people we regularly help :)
[16:06] <BluesKaj> youdmaniw, dunno about pptp vpn but openvpn is not affected by systemd
[16:06] <jost> BluesKaj: nothing that I can see
[16:06] <youdmaniw> Jost all scripts are handled by systemd now, not upstart. UBUNTU version 15.04 just threw it in without changing the scripts
[16:06] <PanV> I just tell my opinion, I dont make a war.
[16:07] <PanV> If you want use Pendrivers, perhaps the problem was..
[16:07] <PanV> oh s* the problem was me.
[16:07] <PanV> My hard drive of 500 GB wasnt appereantly supported, both of programs.
[16:07] <PanV> so I used an 8 GB usb with UNetBootIn
[16:07]  * PanV says My Fault!
[16:08] <daftykins> don't even really know what you mean by "pendrivers"
[16:08] <omgitsmit> "pendrive" maybe?
[16:08] <PanV> oops
[16:08] <nandoe> hi all, anyone know how to connect vpn from ubuntu?
[16:08] <PanV> pendrive
[16:08] <daftykins> nandoe: network manager
[16:08] <skweek> it's like, I'm thinking drivers.. i'm trying to type pendrive... pendrivers came out
[16:08] <daftykins> !vpn
[16:08] <PanV> wait... I am confused.
[16:09] <nandoe> thanks
[16:09] <teward> nandoe: through Network Manager provided you have the VPN plugins for it installed
[16:09] <youdmaniw> nandoe: run chrome. Add extension
[16:09] <omgitsmit> youdmaniw: no
[16:10] <PanV> omg.. here isn't support anymore. Here is WarZone lol
[16:10] <youdmaniw> nandoe: vpn extension in Firefox or chrome
[16:10] <linuxuz3r> hi
[16:10] <daftykins> PanV: can you take the non-support chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[16:10] <linuxuz3r> hey daftykins
[16:10] <PanV> Sorry
[16:10] <omgitsmit> nandoe: don't trust your VPN through a browser, plus that wont be system wide.
[16:10] <omgitsmit> nandoe: follow the proper way to setup a VPN on your system.
[16:11] <daftykins> linuxuz3r: do i know you?
[16:11] <nandoe> @omgismit: ok
[16:12] <youdmaniw> omgitsmit: only if you run another extension like flash.
[16:12] <nandoe> @omgsmit: btw, I tried connect VPN via OpenVPN, I use vpn from vpnbook.com
[16:12] <nandoe> but I have a problem
[16:13] <omgitsmit> nandoe: i too run openvpn that i installed myself on a home server
[16:13] <nandoe> IP address has change but why I cannot access website blocking from my provider?
[16:14] <PanV> Excuse me. sudo (auto remover command)? please?
[16:14] <youdmaniw> nandoe: how about TOR
[16:14] <omgitsmit> youdmaniw: tunnelbear and such is great for a quick private browsing connection, but i would never trust a BROWSER to handle my most sensitive company data
[16:14] <EriC^^> PanV: sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[16:14] <omgitsmit> youdmaniw: plus, im sure this user wants to use the VPN for something other than just a browser.
[16:15] <PanV> Thanks EriC^^
[16:15] <EriC^^> np
[16:15] <omgitsmit> nandoe, test with a "what is my ip" website. make sure your actually using the vpn.
[16:15] <omgitsmit> nandoe: if its a connection issue, please pastbin your errors from the logs
[16:15] <nandoe> @youdmaniw: I also try TOR browser, but still many website blocking from my provider
[16:15] <omgitsmit> pastebin*
[16:16] <EriC^^> nandoe: if you're using tor the websites can't know your provider
[16:16] <EriC^^> nandoe: maybe it's a browser setting or something?
[16:16] <omgitsmit> nandoe: EriC^^: unless the tor node they happent o be using is also not allowed to browse said wesbite
[16:17] <EriC^^> omgitsmit: yeah, nandoe try pressing on new identity under options
[16:17] <jost> Ok, I searched a bit through the logs, and this could be the problem: error> [1432052107.082741] [platform/nm-linux-platform.c:1714] add_object(): Netlink error adding 192.168.130.0/24 via 192.168.130.1 dev ppp0 metric 1024 mss 0 src user: Unspecific failure
[16:18] <jost> can someone tell what that error message indicates?
[16:18] <kokut> Hello, i changed the permission of my /var/www/ folder i now i cant save files i'm editing in sublime text for example, anyone knows which user should i add to the group that has permission over the files?
[16:18] <Midoshi27> Installed fail2ban 10 minutes ago, have already jailed 4 ip addresses
[16:18] <omgitsmit> jost: "Unspecific failure" - gotta love that detail
[16:18] <jost> omgitsmit: I do. Really.
[16:18] <daftykins> kokut: ls -al /var/www/ | pastebinit
[16:19] <youdmaniw> kokut: run your text editor as root
[16:19] <nandoe> My connection to vpn is no problem, but I read from documentation vpn to route all traffics networks need ethernet bridging. I stuck until here
[16:19] <daftykins> youdmaniw: no that is TERRIBLE advice
[16:19] <omgitsmit> jost: custom /etc/network/interfaces?
[16:20] <omgitsmit> nandoe: did you add your routes?
[16:20] <kokut> youdmaniw: no man i just want to add the user that is running the text editor to the group that has permission over the folder
[16:20] <daftykins> kokut: run the above please
[16:20] <kokut> daftykins: it doesn't say anything i didnt know, www-data is 4096 in the web-content group
[16:21] <kokut> that has permission in /html/
[16:21] <jost> omgitsmit: nope, at least I didn't get any notification while upgrading, and it also looks unmodified (content: \nauto lo\niface lo inet loopback)
[16:21] <somsip> nandoe: vpnbook does not support all traffic unless you are paying for it. The free account is limited
[16:21] <daftykins> kokut: yes but *I* want to see it in order to help :)
[16:21] <omgitsmit> jost: eh, thought i might as well ask haha
[16:21] <kokut> daftykins: can i just have two users with permission there? like my main user and www-data ?
[16:21] <nandoe> Maybe no, can you give me reference how to ethernet bridging? I read from documentation from openvpn still confuse
[16:22] <omgitsmit> jost: they might ask for a hardware pastebin, if you want to have that ready
[16:22] <daftykins> kokut: sigh. own the files as www-data:www-data then add your user to the www-data group, then add write permissions on the path for www-data - which i can confirm by seeing the pastebin i asked for :)
[16:23] <daftykins> sorry *group write permissions
[16:24] <ioria> jost if you have static ip, try automatic
[16:24] <omgitsmit> ioria: jost: no custom networking, brand new install
[16:24] <jost> ioria: everything works via dhcp
[16:24] <jost> Just found this: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733296#c4
[16:24] <omgitsmit> l ask haha
[16:24] <omgitsmit> [09:22] <       kokut>| daftykins: can i just have two users with permission there? like my main user and www-data ?
[16:24] <omgitsmit> [09:22] <      nandoe>| Maybe no, can you give me reference how to ethernet bridging? I read from documentation from openvpn still confuse
[16:25] <omgitsmit> woops
[16:25] <omgitsmit> thats what i get for trying to click a link ;)
[16:26] <omgitsmit> jost: so... you're missing a route?
[16:26] <omgitsmit> that seems trivial
[16:26] <jost> omgitsmit: the workaround there just worked... I remove the gateway from the routing config
[16:26] <omgitsmit> odd
[16:27] <jost> omgitsmit: thanks for the support
[16:27] <omgitsmit> jost: i did none of the sort!
[16:32] <omgitsmit> man, xubuntu 15.x is really nice
[16:33] <reisio> omgitsmit: twss
[16:34] <omgitsmit> reisio: i respect a woman that knows her distros ;)
[16:35] <reisio> you know what, so do I
[16:35] <reisio> I respect all women, in fact
[16:35] <reisio> they have interesting parts
[16:37] <omgitsmit> merp, is there no software center GUI rolled with xubuntu?
[16:38] <reisio> omgitsmit: there should be a GUI package manager frontend, but it's not software center
[16:38] <reisio> you can install software center, though
[16:38] <reisio> but it'll gnome up your xfce
[16:38] <reisio> a little more
[16:39] <stephenjudkins> i am running `openjdk-8-jre-headless` on vervet and am getting `java.security.InvalidAlgorithmParameterException: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty` whenever I attempt to make an https connection in Java
[16:39] <reisio> actually it might have software center after all :p
[16:39] <stephenjudkins> is this a known issue?
[16:39] <reisio> stephenjudkins: Java™ being incredibly insecure is
[16:39] <xangua> actually software center comes preinstalled in xubuntu
[16:39] <reisio> you'd probably have to go into the jvm prefs and say "hey, let's been even less secure!"
[16:39] <stephenjudkins> reisio: what do you mean?
[16:39] <reisio> xangua: hey look at you, catching up :p
[16:40] <reisio> stephenjudkins: ?
[16:40] <stephenjudkins> reisio: whatever
[16:41] <jKaideN> hey guys, just setting up Ubuntu 14.04, i don't have physical access to the server, so i had to install the OS remotely via cpanel and they had the OS for ubuntu
[16:41] <jKaideN> but I'm not sure if it's the latest version, should i be doing a do-release-upgrade
[16:41] <jKaideN> ?
[16:41] <omgitsmit> jKaideN: would it harm anything if you did?
[16:41] <OerHeks> 14.04 is the latest LTS.
[16:41] <reisio> well, the real question is would you have to spend time/money you don't have to undo it if it broke
[16:42] <jKaideN> OerHeks, there's like 14.04.2 ?
[16:42] <omgitsmit> +1 reisio
[16:42] <OerHeks> jKaideN, yes, update brings you to 14.04.2
[16:42] <omgitsmit> "If it aint broke, upgrade it"
[16:42] <reisio> not sure I'd bother, though
[16:42] <reisio> if you're using cpanel, your whole system is already that much less secure/unreliable
[16:42]  * reisio shrugs
[16:42] <omgitsmit> reisio: eh, that's arguable
[16:43] <jKaideN> reisio, it's not as if everything is pre-configured. It's just an ISO they they hold
[16:43] <turbo_> Fuck you canonical Buguntu
[16:44] <omgitsmit> jKaideN: reisio: tin foil hat me says "Do i trust this ISO?"
[16:45] <jKaideN> omgitsmit, how else can I install it then?
[16:45] <omgitsmit> jKaideN: if they give you shell access to kvm, i would just roll my own ubuntu install.
[16:45] <omgitsmit> assuming that's the hypervisor they're using
[16:45] <ColonelPanic001> anyone happen to know how long it typically takes to get a new releases mirror reviewed?
[16:45] <jayjo> I'm trying to use matplotlib (python) on an ubuntu server, what is an X11 header?
[16:46] <ColonelPanic001> not a big deal really, but my mirror was registered on April 2, and is still "pending review"
[16:46] <ColonelPanic001> shut up and take my mo...er, bandwidth
[16:46] <omgitsmit> jayjo: X11 header files, usually needed to compile stuff
[16:46] <reisio> it's not really arguable
[16:46] <reisio> a webUI has root access to your system
[16:46] <reisio> this webUI did not come from a .deb
[16:47] <jKaideN> omgitsmit, its ILO2 access. How can i prompt my own/custom ISO through this ?
[16:47] <omgitsmit> reisio: my cpanel does not have root, it only conrtols physical stuff like power management and networking
[16:47] <omgitsmit> jKaideN: you may have to contact them first
[16:47] <reisio> omgitsmit: which it does by having root
[16:48] <omgitsmit> reisio: root to the host system, but not to the guest vm
[16:48] <jayjo> omgitsmit: what is an X-server? What are the search terms to read up on this? Is it jsut an apt-get...? I have a private machine so I can put what I need on it to get matplotlib running
[16:48] <jKaideN> omgitsmit, oh is it Virtual Media ?
[16:48] <reisio> VM, oh lord
[16:48] <reisio> basically just look at http://web.archive.org/web/20051230181349/http://www.cpanel.net/images/header.swf
[16:48] <reisio> zoom in on her lips
[16:48] <reisio> that explains cpanel
[16:50] <Pici> omgitsmit: you only have access to cpanel? or do you have real cli access?
[16:51] <omgitsmit> Pici: shell access
[16:51] <omgitsmit> cpanel only controls physical power connections, not hypervisor or system operations
[16:51] <omgitsmit> i thought it would be more "secure" that way
[16:52] <Pici> omgitsmit: I got confused who was asking what somewhere, nevermind me ;)
[16:52] <Pici> jKaideN: How are you trying to install matplotlib?
[16:53] <jKaideN> Pici, what ?
[16:53] <Pici> jKaideN: I'm just being terrible at irc today.  Sorry.
[16:53] <Pici> jayjo: How are you trying to install matplotlib?
[16:55] <jayjo> I originally did it unsuccessfully via pip, now I used apt-get install python-matplotlib and it installed properly
[16:55] <Pici> jayjo: okay
[16:56] <jayjo> but matplotlib still wants to diplay the graphics
[16:57] <jKaideN> guys anyone have experience with ILO2 (HP Integrated Lights-Out 2) ?
[16:57] <Pici> jKaideN: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[16:57] <jKaideN> ta
[16:57] <jayjo> it's not an installation issue I don't believe, it requires something to write graphics when it can't display and it's X11
[16:58] <Pici> jayjo: This is for something that you're writing in python yourself?
[16:59] <Brayden5234> Hey guys do you remember my problem?
[17:00] <IrfanAlam> not able to play audio and video
[17:00] <Brayden5234> I am on the USB and the hard drive is plugged in... What next
[17:00] <IrfanAlam> The playback of this movie requires a MPEG-4 AAC decoder plugin which is not installed.
[17:01] <Brayden5234> Guys anyone on that remembers my problem?
[17:01] <reisio> I for one, do not
[17:02] <wafflejock> Bray90820, nope write it all in one line or give us a pastebin if it's a long explanation
[17:02] <Brayden5234> I am trying to install Ubuntu 15.04 on a external hard drive via running the try ubuntu on a USB stick
[17:02] <nemith> I can't seem to figure out how to map the caps lock key to ctrl on 15.04.  Any clues?
[17:03] <wafflejock> nemith, haven't tried 15.04 yet but you may want to check out xbindkeys I've used it for some key mapping stuff before
[17:03] <Brayden5234> Someone said it would be possible choosing the external hard drive to install it to it.
[17:06] <wafflejock> nemith, ah take it back just looked that up again, recall now I was just using that for keybindings to do various operations for the window manager, not mapping keys
[17:07] <nemith> yeah looks like I can run commands to key bindings
[17:07] <nemith> hmm
[17:07] <wafflejock> nemith, you try this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/149971/how-do-you-remap-a-key-to-the-caps-lock-key-in-xubuntu
[17:08] <Brayden5234> Hello guys, sorry I went off line for a second.
[17:08] <Brayden5234> Any thoughts on my problem/idea?
[17:08] <reisio> which'n?
[17:08] <wafflejock> Brayden5234, no worries, no replies came in so far
[17:09] <Brayden5234> Oh alright
[17:09] <wafflejock> reisio, Brayden5234 is trying to install via a USB live image to an external USB drive
[17:09] <nemith> wafflejock: i though so
[17:09] <wafflejock> if I understood correct, but isn't seeing the external
[17:09] <nemith> let me try again
[17:10] <Brayden5234> Yeah, so basically.... I am right now running Ubuntu 15.05 off of try ubuntu and trying to click the install icon on the desktop and install ubuntu to an external hard drive
[17:10] <wafflejock> Brayden5234, I can maybe help with checking your devices that are hooked up and checking if the external is mounted or if we can mount it manually, but I'm not familiar with the process for installing to an external drive
[17:10] <al2o3-cr> Brayden5234: why don't you just install ubuntu fully on the external hd
[17:10] <Brayden5234> Thats what I am trying to do.
[17:11] <Brayden5234> I do not know how though.
[17:11] <nemith> wafflejock: yeah that doesn't work for whatever reason
[17:11] <al2o3-cr> Brayden5234: the same way you would an internal one
[17:11] <al2o3-cr> just make sure you install grub to the external drive
[17:11] <Brayden5234> Oh really? So just choose the external hard drive and install?
[17:11] <al2o3-cr> Brayden5234: yeah
[17:11] <Brayden5234> How do I do that?
[17:12] <Brayden5234> Install grub I mean.
[17:12] <al2o3-cr> Brayden5234: sudo fdisk -l # check to see what your ext drive is
[17:12] <OerHeks> Brayden5234, start live session, mount that hdd, and start install ?
[17:12] <al2o3-cr> Brayden5234: the installer will do that
[17:13] <wafflejock> nemith, what does this show setxkbmap -query ?
[17:13] <Brayden5234> So that is it? Basically click the install ubuntu icon on the desktop and choose to install it on the external?
[17:13] <wafflejock> nemith, there's some more details on xkb here https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/769644-hacking-your-linux-keyboard-with-xkb and a link in there for xmodmap think thats the other one I was thinking of earlier
[17:13] <reisio> Brayden5234: should ask you where you want to install grub
[17:13] <al2o3-cr> Brayden5234: yeah but make sure you pick the external one
[17:14] <Brayden5234> Alright. Awesome thanks guys :D
[17:14] <Brayden5234> Also one more question? What IRC program on Ubuntu do you guys use?
[17:14] <reisio> worst case, you re-boot the live OS and fix it
[17:14] <al2o3-cr> Brayden5234: I use weechat :)
[17:14] <wafflejock> Bray90820, hexchat
[17:14] <reisio> I use hexchat for GUI, and irssi for not
[17:14] <wafflejock> Brayden5234, ^^
[17:14] <dprc> IrfanAlam, try installing: gstreamer1.0-libav
[17:15] <reisio> weechat's okay for not GUI, too
[17:15] <Brayden5234> Which is the best user friendly interface?
[17:15] <wafflejock> Brayden5234, hexchat is pretty simple and lightweight
[17:15] <Brayden5234> Basically the easiest one to use for a noob?
[17:15] <zykotick9> Brayden5234: which is the best colour?
[17:15] <Brayden5234> Alright I will try that one thanks :D
[17:16] <wafflejock> Brayden5234, Quassel has it's own DB for backing the logs so you get longer history but it's heavier and more to manage than it's worth IMO
[17:20] <charlie_sanders> Hi all, trying to install some libraries with "sudo apt-get install libc6-i386 libstdc++6-i386", but get the error "lib32gcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed" , trying to install lib32gcc1 and all the dependencies gets me nowhere,, it finally ends in  "libc6-i386 : Depends: libc6 (= 2.19-10ubuntu2) but 2.19-10ubuntu2.3 is to be installed" , how do I get these libs ??
[17:22] <charlie_sanders> also what happened to the ia32-libs package in 14.10 ??
[17:22] <charlie_sanders> And why is no one in here it's usually very busy
[17:22] <blakwire> hi guys, I have installed ubuntu 14.0.4.2 on my usb stick, everything is perfect expect I am trying to use my vpn connection to connect to internet through my college network, which doesn't work
[17:23] <OerHeks> charlie_sanders, try sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libstdc++6:i386
[17:23] <blakwire> in windows I can connect just fine, but in ubuntu I can only connect to a hotspot, but my internet vpn doesn't work
[17:23] <OerHeks> charlie_sanders, ia32-libs are depreciated, ubuntu is multiarch since 12.04
[17:23] <OerHeks> just add :i386 to the package.
[17:24] <ioria> charlie_sanders, i think you need multi-arch
[17:24] <charlie_sanders> http://pastebin.com/5mcnTmVd is is the error , something is really broken it seems
[17:24] <charlie_sanders> OerHeks, ^
[17:24] <blakwire> is there a way to convert a windows 8.1 vpn connection to an ubuntu vpn?
[17:24] <al2o3-cr> ioria: OerHeks just said ubuntu is multiarch since 12.04
[17:24] <OerHeks> charlie_sanders, did you update before installing?
[17:24] <BluesKaj> blakwire, ubuntu on a USB live media ?
[17:24] <charlie_sanders> yes :(
[17:25] <blakwire> BluesKaj: yes, why?
[17:25] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch
[17:25] <jKaideN> OerHeks, ok I've just opened a ticket to my server hoster. Meanwhile i'll be doing the "do-release-upgrade"
[17:25] <blakwire> BluesKaj: and it has presistence space enabled
[17:25] <BluesKaj> do you have the vpn script installed etc
[17:25] <blakwire> BluesKaj: i dunno what you talking about
[17:26] <BluesKaj> which vpn protocol , blakwire?
[17:26] <blakwire> in windows?
[17:26] <BluesKaj> on ubuntu
[17:26] <charlie_sanders> OerHeks, that page just talks about ia32-libs, which is what I want.  ioria how do I do multi-arch ?
[17:26] <blakwire> BluesKaj: don't know
[17:27] <blakwire> I tried pptp
[17:27] <blakwire> but did not connect
[17:27] <al2o3-cr> charlie_sanders: like OerHeks said with :i386 at the end of the package name
[17:27] <blakwire> I know it must have a pretty easy procedure, but I am stupidly missing it
[17:28] <ioria> charlie_sanders, what are you trying  to achieve ?
[17:28] <blakwire> BluesKaj: is that what you were asking me?
[17:29] <charlie_sanders> al2o3-cr, ioria, I'm trying to run android studio, which requires  lib32stdc++6 , but every combination of packages I put it comes back with broken dependencies
[17:29] <BluesKaj> blakwire, install pptp-linux?
[17:29] <Maendir> I was thinking to change in full OpenSUSE after trying it for 5 days on a secondary drive. Any opinions?
[17:30] <BluesKaj> Maendir, no polls please
[17:30] <blakwire> BluesKaj: can't actually connect to the internet with my  ubuntu  without a vpn
[17:30] <Maendir> BluesKaj, done :)
[17:30] <zen_> iptable, you in?
[17:31] <ioria> charlie_sanders, how are you installing it ?
[17:31] <gaandubuntu> help
[17:31] <charlie_sanders> sudo apt-get install -y libc6:i386 libgcc1:i386 libstdc++6:i386 libz1:i386 , this is the output http://pastebin.com/hWSn4XyC
[17:32] <BluesKaj> bla sorry i don't understand your setup then... you haven't told me enough about it to help you
[17:32] <BluesKaj> blakwire,^
[17:32] <charlie_sanders> it looks like it really doesnt want libc6 in both amd64 and i386 versions
[17:32] <ioria> charlie_sanders, no, i meant ... android studio
[17:33] <charlie_sanders> ioria, it's already installed, when I start the config tool it dies with "Unable to run mksdcard SDK tool"
[17:33] <ioria> charlie_sanders, how you installed  android studio ?
[17:34] <blakwire> is my ubuntu already prepackaged with pptp and pptp-setup packages? cause the university webpage says linux users should do "step 1 =yum install pptp pptp-setup" as the first step
[17:34] <charlie_sanders> ioria, by running the install script
[17:35] <blakwire> and then pptpsetup --create vpnconnection --server 192.168.23.200 --username *** --password
[17:36] <aeon-ltd> blakwire: well if you try installing does it tell you that you are reinstalling?
[17:36] <BluesKaj> blakwire, I asked you earlier which vpn client and server you're using
[17:36] <ioria> charlie_sanders, from here http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html ?
[17:36] <al2o3-cr> blakwire: sudo apt-get install network-manager-openvpn network-manager-pptp network-manager-vpnc and use network manager
[17:37] <charlie_sanders> ioria, yeah I think I got it, I already have lic6 in a 64 bit version, it won't install them both
[17:37] <BluesKaj> al2o3-cr, he's using pptp
[17:37] <al2o3-cr> BluesKaj: you can use pptp through network manager
[17:38] <BluesKaj> al2o3-cr, yeah , but openvpn isn't what he needs
[17:38] <al2o3-cr> then just sudo apt-get install network-manager-pptp
[17:39] <al2o3-cr> nice to have all though
[17:40] <al2o3-cr> then create a new vpn add your server username password
[17:40] <ioria> charlie_sanders, apt-cache policy lib32ncurses5 ?
[17:50] <gaandubuntu> Just installed ubuntu. Why is the brightness setting resetting to max on every bootup. How can I make it stick?
[17:51] <Gevox> Hello, i suddenly found my server rebooted and i need to know the reason of this reboot. I have ran last -d reboot
[17:51] <Gevox> and i got the following message reboot   system boot  0.0.0.0          Tue May 19 17:54 - 19:46  (01:51)
[17:51] <Gevox> can somebody help me discovering the reason behind this reboot?
[17:53] <jnxd> can somone help me? I am trying to install ubuntu 15.04 on my device, but it seems to be stuck on "creating ext4 FS for /boon on SCSI1..."
[17:53] <EriC^^> gaandubuntu: you have to add a startup app that sets it
[17:53] <daftykins> jnxd: /boot ? did you create a separate partition for /boot, or use encryption?
[17:53] <jnxd> the former
[17:54] <daftykins> jnxd: is Ubuntu to be the only OS?
[17:54] <jnxd> daftykins: I had it this way ubuntu 14.04
[17:54] <jnxd> daftykins: I plan to install fedora 22 when it comes
[17:54] <jnxd> for now it is the only OS
[17:55] <daftykins> i'd say a separate /boot is a waste of time these days
[17:55] <jnxd> is it? Please elaborate
[17:55] <daftykins> there's not much else to say really, don't make a separate /boot - it'll only become a maintenance chore
[17:56] <jnxd> hmm
[17:56] <daftykins> anyway as per why the installer is stopping there, can you give anymore detail as to what type of system this is?
[17:56] <jnxd> it's an HP laptop. pretty much mid-range
[17:57] <kokut> Hello, how can i change the location where ubuntu is getting the packages? instead of us.archive to use es.archive
[17:57] <daftykins> jnxd: booting 15.04 as EFI or legacy?
[17:57] <daftykins> kokut: by selecting a different mirror from system settings -> software and sources
[17:58] <kokut> daftykins: k lemme try
[17:59] <jnxd> I'm confused as to how it is booting. I installed 14.04 as legacy. THen kubuntu 15.04 and when the opton came, I asked to continue with UEFI. Now UG is giving the same option saying there's already a compatibility mode one installed
[17:59] <daftykins> jnxd: sounds messy, is there any data on there you're trying to keep?
[18:00] <jnxd> daftykins: yes, though its not in the same partitions that I am using
[18:00] <daftykins> jnxd: so you're preserving a /home ?
[18:00] <jnxd> I mean that I'm going to use as / and /home/
[18:01] <jnxd> no
[18:01] <daftykins> jnxd: sounds like you're going mixed mode legacy install -> installing on top with EFI - you're gonna have a bad time
[18:01] <daftykins> are you in a live session on this system right now?
[18:01] <jnxd> Help me undo everything and start over please
[18:01] <jnxd> yes, live session
[18:02] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[18:02] <daftykins> run the above please :>
[18:03] <jnxd> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:03] <daftykins> you have a package manager of some kind open
[18:03] <jnxd> this is SOME boss fight
[18:04] <daftykins> you'll need to close it
[18:04] <jnxd> the installer
[18:04] <jnxd> I cant close it
[18:04] <molimetal> buenas a todos!
[18:04] <daftykins> jnxd: reboot
[18:04] <daftykins> molimetal: #ubuntu-es
[18:04] <jnxd> daftykins: cya in a while
[18:04] <molimetal> os voy a hacer una pregunta, compañeros. Qué versión de MAME es la mejor para ubuntu studio?
[18:05] <daftykins> !es
[18:08] <reisio> subtle
[18:08] <Guest60172> i am running a live session and the USB drive is mounted at /cdrom, but only root can write to it. can i make my user have write access?
[18:09] <reisio> Guest60172: what for?
[18:09] <Guest60172> it's a big drive so i want to save files to it
[18:09] <Guest60172> and not in the casper-rw file
[18:09] <daftykins> that's not how you write to the flash drive
[18:10] <jnxd> daftykins: could you repaste the install commands?
[18:10] <reisio> Guest60172: well, ideally you make another partition to store things on
[18:10] <Guest60172> well my casper-rw is only 4 gb, so want so save movies to the whole fat 32 drive and read in windows
[18:10] <Guest60172> oh
[18:10] <reisio> if it's unpartitioned space you can do it from the live OS, probs
[18:11] <Guest60172> I understand that windows can only see the 1st partition on a removable drive
[18:11] <reisio> I don't know about that
[18:11] <reisio> but it's also not likely to matter
[18:11] <reisio> you can make the storage partition the first if you want, though
[18:11] <daftykins> jnxd: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[18:11] <Guest60172> ok
[18:12] <hzut> hi
[18:12] <daftykins> Guest60172: definitely wrong on that one
[18:12] <Guest60172> cause right now i have the whole 32 gb drive formatted as fat32 with a 4gb casper-rw file for linux
[18:12] <kokut> Hello, i'm trying to connect my desktop via wifi and its not resolving for some reason, i just notice in the router admin that its showing the same name for my desktop twice with 2 different network ips
[18:12] <reisio> Guest60172: uhuh...
[18:12] <reisio> make another partition for storage if you want
[18:12] <daftykins> kokut: yes one lease per OS
[18:12] <Guest60172> cool
[18:12] <kokut> daftykins: what?
[18:12] <reisio> some of the usb imaging tools will even do it for you if you tell it to
[18:13] <doo-doo> turd
[18:13] <hzut> Hi - Please, let me know a good successor for emule?
[18:13] <kokut> daftykins: it keeps showing 2 ips for my desktop man
[18:13] <daftykins> hzut: for obtaining what?
[18:13] <daftykins> kokut: gonna need more info than that to go on really
[18:13] <cyking> anyone using ubuntu mate 15.04?  what happened to Gvfs ? how can i located my samba mounts ?
[18:13] <jnxd> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11229473/
[18:14] <cyking> http://askubuntu.com/questions/620584/gvfs-folder-location-in-ubuntu-mate-15-04  < all i can find
[18:14] <daftykins> jnxd: ok, so do you need any data that's on this 1TB Hitachi right now or can you start from scratch?
[18:15] <jnxd> daftykins: I need the ones in 6 and 7
[18:15] <kokut> daftykins: i think ill just turn my router on and off because it keeps showing my desktop twice even after disconnecting the wifi/ethernet
[18:15] <daftykins> jnxd: ok you're going to need to boot 15.04 in legacy mode and install like that then, attempting EFI won't work
[18:15] <kokut> daftykins: well now it only shows it once
[18:16] <daftykins> kokut: ok
[18:16] <kokut> daftykins: but its not even connected
[18:16] <daftykins> kokut: i am not getting a support question from what you're saying :)
[18:17] <Happzz> trying to fsck /dev/sda, getting /dev/sda is in use. i umounted /dev/sda, /dev/sda1. still getting the is in use error.
[18:17] <Happzz> ideas?
[18:17] <Happzz> i've booted from a live cd.
[18:17] <daftykins> Happzz: type "mount" and check if it's in use or not
[18:17] <daftykins> also ensure your terminal is not on a mount point of any of the mounted partitions
[18:17] <jnxd> daftykins: Okay
[18:17] <Brayden5234> I am trying to install ubuntu on an external hard drive and when I choose the hard drive it says "No root file system is defined.
[18:17] <Brayden5234> Please correct this from the partitioning menu."
[18:18] <jnxd> how do I do that?
[18:18] <daftykins> !efi | jnxd see here for the difference between legacy and EFI boot
[18:18] <daftykins> Brayden5234: yes you need to set up some partitions on that disk - is it blank right now? nothing on it you need to keep?
[18:19] <Brayden5234> Yeah it is formatted blank. What now?
[18:19] <daftykins> Brayden5234: the ubuntu installer has an option of 'use entire disk' or 'something else' - which did you pick?
[18:19] <hzut> Hi - Please, let me know a good successor for emule?
[18:19] <daftykins> hzut: as i already asked, what do you want it for?
[18:19] <Brayden5234> That is for the computers hard drive, that is not an option for an external hard drive
[18:20] <daftykins> Brayden5234: quit the installer, run it again and see if you get to the 'something else' option so you can partition manually.
[18:20] <OerHeks> hzut, emule provides piracy software and music/films, offtopic for #ubuntu.
[18:20] <Brayden5234> That is where I am at daftykins
[18:20] <daftykins> and for Freenode :)
[18:21] <daftykins> Brayden5234: so how big is this disk? do you want some space for ubuntu and some other space for storage that Windows can access too, or?
[18:21] <Brayden5234> No just 100% ubuntu. And it is 3TB
[18:22] <daftykins> ok because that's a lot of space
[18:22] <Brayden5234> Haha yeah it is
[18:22] <daftykins> Brayden5234: so the window should show /dev/sda and /dev/sdb yes?
[18:22] <daftykins> where sdb is the 3TB hopefully
[18:22] <Brayden5234> dev/sdd
[18:22] <daftykins> oh ok
[18:22] <EriC^^> Brayden5234: you need to make a gpt partition if you want 2+TB partitions
[18:23] <daftykins> so in that window you should be able to select to create new partitions?
[18:23] <Brayden5234> How do I do that?
[18:23] <Brayden5234> Yes I can daftykins
[18:23] <daftykins> or better yet a new partition table on the disk to start with
[18:23] <EriC^^> Brayden5234: open gparted > create new partition table, gpt or something along those lines
[18:23] <daftykins> which is what will offer the GPT format as EriC^^ suggests
[18:23] <Brayden5234> Yes it says new partition table
[18:23] <EriC^^> try to see if the installer can do that first as daftykins said
[18:24] <hzut> I want to say protocol P2P and no emule for piracy using, ok?
[18:24] <daftykins> hopefully it offers msdos + GPT
[18:24] <daftykins> hzut: sorry, still a forbidden topic. try a different IRC network
[18:24] <hzut> I am lookink for the successor of P2P proptocol and tools?
[18:25] <hzut> Thanks
[18:25] <hzut> Have a good day
[18:25] <KWhat_Work> wtf provides /etc/mysql ?
[18:25] <daftykins> mysql-server is a meta package which will install MySQL server 5
[18:28] <Happzz> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/pJcdvCqo/1432060061.JPG
[18:28] <Happzz> that's after fsck from livecd.
[18:29] <daftykins> boot back into live
[18:29] <Happzz> and?
[18:29] <daftykins> and give me a "sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[18:30] <Brayden5234> Ok on gpart I choose create new partition table and which should I choose?
[18:30] <Brayden5234> gpt?
[18:30] <daftykins> GPT yes
[18:30] <daftykins> did you boot ubuntu as EFI or not?
[18:30] <daftykins> !efi
[18:31] <daftykins> see there for the difference
[18:31] <Brayden5234> I am confused what?
[18:31] <daftykins> there are two modes of booting ubuntu installation media, legacy and EFI
[18:31] <daftykins> see the above link to say which one you did
[18:32] <EriC^^> Brayden5234: open a terminal and type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[18:32] <Brayden5234> alright one sec
[18:32] <EriC^^> Brayden5234: just tell us if it says it doesn't exist
[18:33] <Brayden5234> it says no such file or directory
[18:33] <EriC^^> ok, good
[18:33] <Happzz> daftykins sec
[18:33] <Brayden5234> alright
[18:33] <EriC^^> Brayden5234: if you need to boot it on another machine that has uefi enabled, you'll have to enable legacy mode/ccsm and then boot it
[18:33] <Brayden5234> No root file system is defined.
[18:33] <Brayden5234> Please correct this from the partitioning menu.
[18:34] <Brayden5234> It is giving me that error when I try to install
[18:34] <EriC^^> Brayden5234: you have to make the root partition and a swap if you want
[18:34] <EriC^^> swap is up to you, mostly
[18:34] <Brayden5234> How?
[18:34] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to share files between two ubuntu computers connected to a router via wifi?
[18:34] <Brayden5234> How do I make the root partition?
[18:35] <Brayden5234> dropbox kokut
[18:35] <EriC^^> Brayden5234: create new partition > ext4 > mountpoint "/"
[18:35] <EriC^^> use all the space if you don't want a swap
[18:35] <k1l> kokut: use the samba share option
[18:35] <kokut> Brayden5234: nope
[18:35] <k1l> kokut: or use a usb stick :)
[18:35] <AvengerLives> kokut: sshfs also works
[18:35] <EriC^^> Brayden5234: also, at the bottom, set the bootloader to your usb's name
[18:36] <daftykins> kokut: scp
[18:36] <daftykins> though i suspect you want a GUI friendly way? :)
[18:36] <kokut> are you kidding that ubuntu doesnt have a nautilus option to use the network? i can browse windows computers easily with my ubuntu laptop
[18:36] <AvengerLives> kokut: you can also run a command like: nautilus ssh://<username>@<second_computer's_ip_address
[18:37] <kokut> but i want to use nautilus man
[18:37] <AvengerLives> that will do exactly what you want
[18:37] <mcphail> kokut: press ctrl-l in nautilus and you can type the url
[18:37] <kokut> ssh is much slower i have to type the names of the folder in the same exact way etc
[18:37] <AvengerLives> no
[18:37] <user0> how to install flash player for firefox and chromium-browser?
[18:37] <AvengerLives> nautilus ssh://<username>@<second_computer's_ip_address
[18:37] <Happzz> daftykins the dude im trying to help had to go. sorry for the bother. i'll be back with the info you asked later tonight.
[18:38] <daftykins> Happzz: oh so this was a middle man job, mmk - don't do that in future please :)
[18:38] <kokut> AvengerLives: and what do i put in username
[18:38] <AvengerLives> that gives you open access to the other system within the confines of that user's permissions
[18:38] <xAndreLopesx> hi ubuntu chat
[18:38] <scrope> hi
[18:38] <kokut> what do i put in the user man
[18:38] <AvengerLives> the user account that you use on the other machine
[18:39] <xAndreLopesx> im accessing an ubuntu server though ssh and when i try to execute a file, it says : command not found
[18:39] <daftykins> kokut: the username... :D
[18:39] <EriC^^> xAndreLopesx: which file?
[18:39] <daftykins> xAndreLopesx: a script?
[18:39] <xAndreLopesx> i have a file named : haar.exe
[18:39] <xAndreLopesx> so i cd to the folder.. and
[18:39] <xAndreLopesx> typed : haar.exe
[18:39] <EriC^^> =|
[18:39] <mcphail> xAndreLopesx: are you prepending the command with "./"?
[18:39] <AvengerLives> I use that command all the time without any speed issues btw
[18:39] <daftykins> that's a Windows executable. you can't run those directly on Linux.
[18:39] <xAndreLopesx> hm...
[18:40] <xAndreLopesx> i see
[18:40] <AvengerLives> you are only limited by your intranet bandwidth
[18:40] <daftykins> what is it?
[18:40] <daftykins> AvengerLives: network :P
[18:40] <daftykins> not intranet
[18:40] <xAndreLopesx> so i need to get a ubuntu executable
[18:40] <xAndreLopesx> right?
[18:40] <scrope> what are your change permission?
[18:40] <AvengerLives> you are correct
[18:40] <AvengerLives> sorry
[18:40] <EriC^^> xAndreLopesx: yeah, what does it do?
[18:41] <xAndreLopesx> opencv haartraining
[18:41] <kokut> AvengerLives: you don't have permission to access the requested location
[18:41] <user0> I just saw that I did update and the apt-get upgrade. then opened muon and there was a button highlghted "full upgrade" . I clicked and still some packages showed as upgradable. Why did apt-get upgrade didnt covered that?
[18:42] <kokut> daftykins: any tips?
[18:42] <daftykins> kokut: you're already receiving help
[18:42] <mcphail> xAndreLopesx: You cant just use "scriptname" as a command, anyway. By default, the current directory is not in your user's $PATH so the shell will not see the script in that directory. Instead, use "./scriptname"
[18:42] <scrope> maybe error try apt-get autoremove
[18:42] <kokut> daftykins: i was also receiving help from u m8
[18:42] <xAndreLopesx> ok
[18:42] <scrope> okey
[18:42] <daftykins> kokut: too many cooks spoil the broth
[18:43] <mcphail> user0: a normal "apt-get upgrade" will not upgrade packages which uninstall other packages as part of the process. For a full upgrade, run "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[18:44] <AvengerLives> kokut: on what I'm calling the second machine (the one to grab the files from), are they located in the home directory of the user for that system?
[18:44] <user0> mcphail,  thanks
[18:45] <kokut> i'm trying nautilus sftp://username@192.168.1.11/
[18:45] <Brayden5234> I think it is stuck on creating ext4 file system
[18:45] <daftykins> Brayden5234: give it time
[18:45] <AvengerLives> kokut: in the event that they are in a different location, it is likely that the permissions of that location are not accessible to the user you are loggin in as
[18:45] <user0> how to install flash player for firefox and chromium-browser?
[18:46] <Brayden5234> Go to adobes website
[18:46] <Brayden5234> pretty easy
[18:46] <Brayden5234> it tells you how at the download page
[18:46] <kokut> AvengerLives: operation not supported :ssh
[18:46] <daftykins> Brayden5234: not correct
[18:46] <AvengerLives> the user on 192.168.1.11 must have proper access permissions for the directory as well as the files you wish to transfer
[18:46] <mcphail> user0: ubuntu provides a flashplayer installer script which you should use
[18:46] <AvengerLives> ok
[18:47] <AvengerLives> kokut: make sure openssh-server is installed on the 192.168.1.11 machine
[18:47] <AvengerLives> use apt-get
[18:47] <AvengerLives> best to have it on both so this will work both ways in the future
[18:47] <psycomp> Is this the best Linux distro for a normal PC to replace windows? Excluding the chromeOS that isn't a full-blown OS
[18:47] <psycomp> I guess
[18:47] <psycomp> Sorry I'm new
[18:48] <mcphail> user0: I can't remember the package name, but it is brought in if you install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:48] <Brayden5234> Nothing has happened. I think it froze
[18:48] <kokut> AvengerLives: package 'openssh-server' has no installation candidate
[18:48] <AvengerLives> psycomp: it's a matter of personal preference... Mint is another option
[18:48] <daftykins> psycomp: depends what you do
[18:49] <psycomp> daftykins: General computing. Like browsing, programming and games now and then. Which is best for me?
[18:49] <mcphail> psycomp: the beauty of Linux is you can try them all and choose what works best for you. Ubuntu is a pretty safe bet
[18:49] <AvengerLives> kokut: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[18:49] <daftykins> psycomp: what games do you play? some are available via Steam but not all
[18:49] <Brayden5234> in the more details of the installer it says: 'NULL' failed
[18:50] <AvengerLives> kokut: it's in the ubuntu repos for sure
[18:50] <psycomp> daftykins: ah don't worry. Nothing very demanding, I saw these games are already available for Linux
[18:50] <psycomp> mcphail: Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, MATE, which one is appropriate?
[18:51] <mcphail> psycomp: I prefer default Ubuntu. You can install one and switch to the others very easily
[18:51] <AvengerLives> psycomp: I concur
[18:52] <daftykins> !pm
[18:52] <psycomp> My machine is fairly decent, so should run them all according to the system requirements, so hardware specs aren't a problem
[18:52] <Brayden5234> I would say Ubuntu is the best IMOP
[18:53] <mcphail> psycomp: When you switch to Linux you have the freedom to try them all. Most people spend a few eeks switching between distros and desktops to see what suits them. The choice can be overwhelming
[18:54] <psycomp> mcphail: To be honest I wouldn't have the time to spend too much time worrying about that, that's why I thought Ubuntu would be a safe bet..
[18:54] <mcphail> psycomp: standard Ubuntu has become the Linux benchmark. It is an excellent choice
[18:54] <Brayden5234> Ubuntu looks the sexiest... Also has more support.
[18:55] <psycomp> Brayden5234: Yes support was one of the primary reasons. There is a great amount of info for ubuntu compared to other distros...
[18:55] <dubey> Has anyone successfully implemented Two factor authentication on ubuntu Gnome ?
[18:55] <Brayden5234> Yeah exactly.
[18:55] <psycomp> mcphail: Does Ubuntu work well with Android for transferring files?
[18:55] <dubey> I am following http://labs.packetverify.com/guides/using-google-two-factor-authentication-for-ubuntu-login/
[18:55] <mcphail> psycomp: yes
[18:56] <dubey> not working for me
[18:56] <Brayden5234> Yes it does
[18:56] <Brayden5234> Android phones works great with Ubuntu
[18:56] <psycomp> Brayden5234: Does Ubuntu use GNOME?
[18:56] <mcphail> psycomp: also makes a good platform for developing Android apps, if you like programming
[18:56] <dubey> After doing all the steps when i logout/reboot the system, it doesn't even recognize my correct password
[18:57] <Brayden5234> Ubuntu is light wieght as well
[18:57] <Brayden5234> weight
[18:57] <mcphail> psycomp: GNOME is an option, but by default Ubuntu uses Unity
[18:57] <psycomp> mcphail: That's precisely one of the uses I would like to use Ubuntu for :)
[18:58] <pbx> my mouse pointer disappeared on wake.  how might i get it back short of rebooting?
[18:58] <psycomp> Can Ubuntu be customized like windows? the desktop and that stuff...
[18:58] <mcphail> psycomp: perfect
[18:58] <reisio> pbx: replug it in?
[18:58] <reisio> pbx: and then look into disabling usb power saving
[18:58] <pbx> reisio, laptop, trackpad.  14.04 unity FWIW
[18:58] <daftykins> pbx: laptop? try ctrl+alt+F1 then alt+F7 to switch back
[18:58] <mcphail> psycomp: of course. You have limitless choice, even changing the whole desktop manager if you wish
[18:59] <pbx> daftykins, mode switch did it. nice. thanks
[18:59] <reisio> hahahah
[18:59] <reisio> best hack ever would be pm-utils chvt 1 and back to 7
[18:59] <mcphail> psycomp: make a live USB stick and give it a try. If you like it, install
[18:59] <reisio> lawl
[18:59] <psycomp> mcphail: And hardware support is provided out of the box right?
[18:59] <blorg> psycomp : Ubuntu is 200 times more customizable than anything you tired before :P
[19:00] <Brayden5234> Ubuntu is by far one of the most customizable OS's there is.
[19:00] <mcphail> psycomp: for most things, yes. There are still some sticky patches. That's why it is worth trying a live USB first
[19:00] <Brayden5234> I mean you can completely change the look and feel of Ubuntu if your wish
[19:00] <al2o3-cr> Brayden5234: i'll think you'll find that is arch
[19:00] <psycomp> Do most people here use Unity?
[19:00] <Brayden5234> Haha yeah
[19:01] <reisio> psycomp: I'd wager so, given it's default
[19:01] <mcphail> psycomp: you may need to install some things like proprietary graphics drivers, but Ubuntu tries to make that easy for you
[19:01] <blorg> nope i'm gnome :)
[19:01] <psycomp> blorg: Is there much difference between Unity and GNOME?
[19:01] <blorg> much
[19:01] <daftykins> psycomp: i don't even use ubuntu desktop :P
[19:01] <reisio> psycomp: "Unity" is mostly GNOME
[19:02] <reisio> the difference is in the very top level of the UI
[19:02] <reisio> if you want your own feel for the differences, try both
[19:02] <mcphail> psycomp: it is easy to install unity, gnome, KDE and whatever else. You just pick between them at login
[19:02] <blorg> yeah, try them.
[19:02] <mcphail> psycomp: if you choose Ubuntu with Unity, you don't need to reinstall to switch to GNOME
[19:03] <Brayden5234> There are also many themes for Ubuntu... Unity is very customizable though
[19:03] <psycomp> Ok everyone. I'll download and try the default Ubuntu for now, see how it fares and if I can get used to it ;)
[19:03] <mcphail> psycomp: enjoy, and ask here if you run into problems
[19:03] <psycomp> Brayden5234: I read that Unity was known for not being so customizable as others...
[19:03] <psycomp> like KDE or xfce
[19:03] <Guest93011> Hello guys, I have a problem with printing I can't print more than one docoument in a row, after I print one I have to close and open the printer for it to continue printing. My printer is HP Deskjet D4200 series
[19:03] <Brayden5234> KDE is the best for themes
[19:04] <mcphail> psycomp: KDE is prob the most customisable, but it take customisation to the extreme. Too much for me
[19:04] <Brayden5234> The ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI8 (0,0,0) (sdd) failed.
[19:04] <Brayden5234> I got that error trying to install ubuntu to an external hard drive
[19:05] <Brayden5234> What to do?
[19:05] <kokut> i'm trying to access with nautilus to my other computer in the network that's also running ubuntu but i'm having a lil hard time with ssh, anyone knows the right way to call nautilus with ssh for networks browsing with root privileges?
[19:05] <psycomp> I see. Thanks everyone for your enlightening support. I will create the liveUSB now
[19:06] <Brayden5234> Guys any idea on what I said above?
[19:06] <zorak8> hi, i just installed an ubuntu server in an old laptop to use over ssh
[19:06] <daftykins> Brayden5234: use gparted instead to make them
[19:06] <mcphail> Brayden5234: does your external HDD have enough power to spin correctly? Do you need external power?
[19:06] <daftykins> zorak8: ok...?
[19:06] <zorak8> but when i close the screen of the laptop i lost the ssh conection
[19:06] <zorak8> until i open the laptop again
[19:06] <daftykins> zorak8: mm, don't do that :)
[19:07] <daftykins> root: it's unsafe to come on here as root!
[19:07] <Brayden5234> Yeah the external hard drive is a 3tb hard drive, it uses external power
[19:07] <daftykins> Guest5934: ^
[19:07] <Brayden5234> Alright I will use gparted instead of the installation one.
[19:08] <zorak8> how can i configure the power options to only turn off the screen when is closed?
[19:08] <AvengerLives> kokut: you didn't say root privs before. If you want to login as root you will need to edit your ssh config.  Never a good idea btw.  just grant your primary user the proper permissions and go from there
[19:08] <daftykins> Happzz: just a heads up, that friend of yours hard disk looked faulty - so don't let them attempt any further fsck operations as it'll likely make it worse! :)
[19:08] <blorg> brayden what are you trying to do?
[19:09] <Brayden5234> Install ubuntu on an external hard drive
[19:09] <blakwire> hi folks I am experiencing the worst level of pain in the ass and the head and neck, I am trying to install Ubuntu 14 on my virtualbox inside a windows 8.1 host, I get this error message Fast TSC Calibration Failed
[19:09] <blakwire> what should I do?
[19:09] <daftykins> blakwire: power off the VM and check 3D acceleration is enabled under graphics
[19:09] <blakwire> ok, w8
[19:09] <daftykins> !u
[19:10] <blakwire> daftykins: no it is not
[19:10] <daftykins> it's a polite request to not type like that :)
[19:10] <al2o3-cr> blakwire: yes it is
[19:10] <Brayden5234> I am getting errors with my hard drive now
[19:10] <blakwire> daftykins: no it is not enabled under graphics
[19:10] <daftykins> blakwire: oh, then enable it...
[19:11] <doo-doo> feces
[19:11] <blakwire> it is turned off
[19:11] <daftykins> greyed out? you need to power off the VM first.
[19:11] <Brayden5234> It says output/input error
[19:11] <daftykins> !ops | doo-doo inappropriate spamming
[19:11] <blakwire> ok, let me see how it goes on, I got it enabled
[19:11] <Brayden5234> It is saying on my hard drive /dev/sdd: unrecognised disk label
[19:11] <Brayden5234> What to do?
[19:12] <daftykins> what reported that?
[19:12] <compdoc> Brayden5234, install gparted and create one
[19:12] <compdoc> Brayden5234, is there data on the drive?
[19:13] <blorg> brayden did you wipe your drive first? Gparted is ggod for that... Use a live USB, unmount/delete/reformat any partition not wanted.
[19:13] <compdoc> or is this a new drive?
[19:13] <Brayden5234> Input/output error during read on /dev/sdd getting this when I try to create a partition tabel
[19:13] <daftykins> Brayden5234: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | tail | pastebinit
[19:14] <blakwire> daftykins : now 3d is enabled but the installation would not go on, just like it was before
[19:14] <daftykins> blakwire: how did you download? check the ISO isn't corrupted
[19:14] <blakwire> daftykins : you there?
[19:14] <daftykins> !md5 | blakwire
[19:14] <blakwire> daftykins
[19:14] <daftykins> blakwire: yes you gave me 5 seconds to respond.
[19:14] <daftykins> blakwire: show some patience.
[19:15] <Brayden5234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11230368/
[19:15] <blakwire> daftykins : I did check it, it works just fine if the machine boot from the DVD.
[19:15] <daftykins> Brayden5234: something is up with your disk.
[19:15] <Brayden5234> What does that mean haha
[19:15] <daftykins> blakwire: check what? you are not being clear
[19:15] <Brayden5234> This is a brand new external hard drive
[19:16] <blakwire> daftykins : the md5sum
[19:16] <blakwire> daftykins : the iso is not currpt
[19:16] <Brayden5234> I have only transfered a few movies on it before. No heavy use.
[19:16] <mcphail> Brayden5234: you are _sure_ it is getting power to spin?
[19:16] <zorak8> how can i configure the power options to only turn off the screen when is closed?
[19:16] <zorak8> with the cli
[19:16] <Brayden5234> Yeah the hard drive is spinning
[19:16] <daftykins> blakwire: so are you installing from a DVD, or the mounted ISO?
[19:17] <blakwire> daftykins : I am installing from a mounted iso, I mean I also burned the iso file on an actuall dvd and it works fine
[19:17] <blakwire> so the iso is fine
[19:17] <ioria> Brayden5234, i don't know your issue, but when i did it turned out that i could only install on 1 primary partition disk, and not a partitioned one. don't know why
[19:17] <blakwire> is there a way to help with this issue?
[19:18] <mcphail> Brayden5234: there is spinning and there is spinning properly. Check/replace both wires (USB and power)
[19:18] <daftykins> blakwire: alright. delete and recreate your VM
[19:18] <blakwire> daftykins : did that a million times
[19:18] <blakwire> already
[19:18] <daftykins> a million and one time lucky then
[19:19] <blakwire> daftykins : I am kind of sensing you are trying to mock me in someway... is that true?
[19:19] <daftykins> no it's called light hearted humour, it's used to cope with the tough tasks of sysadmins lives day to day
[19:20] <blakwire> oh it is painful and distressing while I am trying to solve an actual issue
[19:20] <Adasser> Yeah, not sure though...
[19:21] <daftykins> blakwire: i think that's a bit of a dramatisation. further help can be had in #vbox
[19:21] <blakwire> it does not feel like light hearted humor over here, btw I didn't know we could horse around, and tell jokes on this channel... shall I start?
[19:21] <ioria> kokut you have to be sure that openssh-server is installed on your other machines
[19:21] <daftykins> blakwire: goodbye then
[19:21] <blakwire> :) ok...
[19:21] <blakwire> you take care
[19:22] <kokut> ioria: i just managed to do it but it was extremely slow so i'm going to use a usb stick
[19:22] <ioria> Brayden5234, then do 'Connect to server'
[19:22] <ioria> Brayden5234, it's slow ?
[19:22] <ioria> sorry
[19:22] <ioria> kokut it's slow ?
[19:22] <zorak8> how can i configure the power options to only turn off the screen when is closed with the cli?
[19:23] <kokut> ioria: yea, now i'm compressing the files to put them in the pendrive but it's stuck in the middle of the operation like something went wrong... could it have a permissions issue?
[19:24] <mcphail> zorak8: not sure the CLI does that by default, but I might be wrong. Is your BIOS sending a message to suspend when the lid is closed?
[19:24] <ioria> kokut ssh is more  practicable
[19:24] <Brayden5234> I had the external hard drive plugged into an extension cord so it is working now plugged into the wall lol.
[19:24] <ioria> kokut samba is better
[19:25] <mcphail> Brayden5234: thought so!
[19:25] <Brayden5234> Haha how did you know?!
[19:25] <mcphail> Brayden5234: many years of problems with external USB drives. Power is always the problem
[19:26] <NGuerrero> * NGuerrero sa
[19:26] <NGuerrero> wrong chat
[19:26] <ioria> mcphail, true, i lost one week to understand that i needed a double usb cable
[19:26] <Brayden5234> Haha
[19:26] <Guest93011> Though when I run things like hp-check It continues??
[19:27] <mcphail> Yes - the problem is the controller doesn't need much power and appears to work correctly. But when the disk needs to spin for a while it all goes horribly wrong
[19:27] <Brayden5234> Damn managed to format it partition it as ext4 and now it is saying Input/output error during read on /dev/sdd
[19:28] <ioria> Brayden5234, but it's related to i/o error not with the failed installation, i'm afraid
[19:28] <Brayden5234> What does that mean?
[19:28] <Ben64> Brayden5234: usually a bad drive
[19:28] <mcphail> Brayden5234: your probably still needing power. Is your USB connection going through a powered hub?
[19:28] <Brayden5234> What?! Bad drive?
[19:29] <Brayden5234> No the hard drive is plugged into the desktop directly
[19:29] <Ben64> thats usually what io error means
[19:29] <ioria> Brayden5234, if i may, save what you have on that drive and wipe it
[19:29] <Brayden5234> I want to wipe it. Nothing is on it
[19:30] <ioria> Brayden5234, movies ?
[19:30] <Brayden5234> Nope nothing
[19:30] <AvengerLives> Brayden5234: Go for it then.  Also once you have conduct a SMART sacn to determine the health
[19:30] <Brayden5234> I already formatted it
[19:30] <mcphail> Brayden5234: in my experice it boils down to 3 things (in this order): 1) bad power, 2) bad cables, 3) bad disk
[19:30] <ioria> Brayden5234,  sudo parted -l
[19:32] <Brayden5234> Model: ATA ST3250410AS (scsi)
[19:32] <Brayden5234> Disk /dev/sda: 250GB
[19:32] <Brayden5234> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[19:32] <Brayden5234> Partition Table: msdos
[19:32] <Brayden5234> Disk Flags:
[19:33] <Brayden5234> Whoa I am so sorry
[19:33] <jnxd> daftykins: Okay, legacy boot also doesn't seem to work
[19:34] <blorg> brayden5234 what is your problem? If you hve any.
[19:34] <novelty> Hi. im fairly new to ubuntu and linux and am trying to install digikam on 14.04 LTS server. This question may be more general than to just this application... I managed to install the package on the command line. Do I need to install a GUI on ubuntu for it to run or does the install integrate the necessary parts required to operate?
[19:34] <Brayden5234> I did not mean for that to happen.. I thought it would put it in a paragraph
[19:34] <Brayden5234> http://pastebin.com/0hRJPdhk
[19:35] <OerHeks> novelty, yes, you need a gui.
[19:35] <Brayden5234> What does that mean, thats what terminal said when I typed that sudo parted -l
[19:35] <kokut> for some reason i'm randomly losing internet access in my desktop connected via usb stick en tho it's connected to the network, is there anything i can try?
[19:36] <ioria> Brayden5234,  it's sdd  your external ?
[19:36] <novelty> thanks OerHekx. I installed LXDE-CORE this morning. but haven't had a chance to experiment much since then. Will that suffice or do specific programs need components from specific GUI?
[19:36] <Brayden5234> Yes sdd is external
[19:37] <ioria> Brayden5234,  and you cannot wipe it from live ?
[19:37] <daftykins> Brayden5234: so again, fire up gparted and partition that disk as GPT and create some partitions :)
[19:37] <OerHeks> novelty, that might work yes
[19:38] <Brayden5234> Gparted isnt showing the hard drive anymore
[19:38] <daftykins> reboot
[19:38] <Brayden5234> It basically is telling me it isnt plugged in
[19:39] <jaapio> hi, does somebody here know any package that supports the asus transformer series?
[19:39] <blakwire> folks I need to change the boot parameters of the live DVD boot loader to something like this: "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 rd.luks=0 KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet clocksource=acpi_pm" how should I do that ?
[19:39] <ioria> Brayden5234,  it's a dock, the usb cable is single or double ? what ?
[19:39] <jnxd> daftykins: I'm now backing up the contents of the HDD. Better start from scratch. Instructions?
[19:40] <le_compere_toura> HI
[19:40] <le_compere_toura> Please Help me
[19:40] <Brayden5234> Its a usb 3.0 and has a weird connection port
[19:40] <blakwire> jnxd : I would probably not want to listen to daftykins, he is all about lightening the heart and all
[19:41] <le_compere_toura> I am looking for a successor of P2P protocol and amule tool Please?
[19:41] <daftykins> jnxd: after backup? "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda" then run install when booting EFI
[19:41] <daftykins> le_compere_toura: changing your name will not help, your topic is still not welcome here. please stop.
[19:41] <jaapio> I'm looking for a driver that supports the screen-brightness buttons on my keyboard
[19:41] <le_compere_toura> ok
[19:42] <kokut> for some reason i'm getting randomly disconnected form the internet in my desktop connected via usb dongle, is there anything i can try?
[19:42] <OerHeks> hzut, le_compere_toura please NOT AGAIN, emule provides piracy software and music/films, offtopic for #ubuntu.
[19:42] <novelty> OerHeks I think I eventually would like to try and use the individual program from an offsite machine running OS X via ssh forwarding and X11 without installing it. From what I've read, this sounds feasible. Is this possible/the best method to do this?
[19:43] <OerHeks> novelty, ssh -X user@<ip> -p Mypassword
[19:45] <ioria> Brayden5234,  can you change port ?
[19:49] <blakwire> can someone give a list of all the options available for "clocksource=" option of the bootloader ??
[19:52] <jose__> ?
[19:53] <OerHeks> blakwire, i know 2 of them, clocksource hpet or acpi_pm
[19:53] <ruviaro>  
[19:53] <novelty> OerHeks, cool. That's what I read. Thanks for confirming. Now for a really basic questions... do I need a display manager such as gdm or kdm to run LXDE?
[19:54] <OerHeks> novelty, gdm and kdm are old, current is lightdm
[19:55] <novelty> OerHeks, good to know. I will definitely need this to run everything, including the X11 interface offsite?
[19:56] <OerHeks> novelty, if you want to run digikam, i guess so
[19:57] <novelty> OerHeks, I'll give that a try. thanks
[19:58] <b4tm4n> normally, i use uid and gid options in fstab to auto mount a file system. however, ext4 does not support this.  What is the best way to provide a user with permission?
[19:59] <daftykins> b4tm4n: set them on the file system
[19:59] <b4tm4n> daftykins, how do you do that?
[19:59] <daftykins> or just mount as "auto,user" options
[19:59] <daftykins> sudo chown user: /path/on/mounted/ext4/
[20:00] <b4tm4n> daftykins, oh, so just chown after the mount?
[20:00] <daftykins> yip
[20:01] <b4tm4n> daftykins, the mount options are confusing to me so i've just been using defaults.  if i use the "user" option that implies noexec.  is defaults ok?
[20:01] <jaapio> I found that some function keys on my keyboard don't work. they are not reported xev?
[20:02] <daftykins> b4tm4n: see how you get on. things can be changed
[20:02] <daftykins> gotta run, back later
[20:05] <jnxd> daftykins: you had mentioned a way to start from scratch. Can you elaborate on that? That seems to be the only option available to me.
[20:07] <zzxc> How does one disable vi mode for terminal
[20:10] <zeeb> why has the mouse sensitivity slider never worked on ubuntu?
[20:10] <zeeb> so insane
[20:12] <zzxc> figured it out to disable set -o vi you just have to do set +o vi
[20:12] <johnjohn101> how?
[20:15] <zeeb> mouse control in ubuntu is too horrible to use...back to windows
[20:15] <zeeb> sucks that the settings are half broken as well
[20:16] <Dumle29> Hey there. I want to use my media keys to controll an extension in chrome. This works just fine in windows, but ubunto (gnome) seems to catch it before chrome gets it. Any way to allow me to use this key for other programs than the ones gnome recognize as media players?
[20:17] <docmur> My server just rebooted and now when we try to boot we get a "General Filesystem Error enter maintance mode",  when w do that we can see the / and it's fine.  We can run a fsck and it's fine.  I use a GPT parition table, and I have 1MB at the front for Grub, then 4TB for /, what should I check, becaue I can't find reason this should happen, going to older releases doesn't fix anything.
[20:23] <VlanX> Hello guys... Anyone knows how to fix the grub of ubuntu 14.04 after I accidently inserted a FreeBSD disk at the startup? Now ubuntu wont boot up by any mean....
[20:24] <EriC^^> VlanX: what do you mean by inserted a freebsd disk at the startup?
[20:28] <tato> hi
[20:29] <tato> im a new user
[20:29] <VlanX> EriC^^ it means that it was already inside the dvd reader when ive swapped on the machine. Of course ubuntu 14.04 is still on the ssd but i probably have messed up the grub i guess
[20:29] <niklas_e> I am helping a friend who has problem with ubuntu. It is some problem updateing.
[20:30] <EriC^^> VlanX: no, just remove it from the dvd, or set the dvd's boot priority to be lower
[20:30] <EriC^^> niklas_e: what's the problem?
[20:30] <DexterF> hi. if I copy firmware to /lib/firmware, will it stay or would any upgrades overwrite/delete them, say kernel upgrades or the like?
[20:32] <VlanX> Eric^^ unfortunately the dvd is already out. It must have wrote stuff to the mbr or something like that. Is there a guide on how to recover it?
[20:33] <EriC^^> VlanX: do you have an ubuntu live usb?
[20:33] <niklas_e> it says a lot  of "failed to fetch http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/ubuntu&ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/source  Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 194.71.11.69 80]
[20:33] <niklas_e> and a lot of simmular
[20:33] <EriC^^> niklas_e: which ubuntu version is he using?
[20:33] <EriC^^> 13.04?
[20:33] <niklas_e> 13.10
[20:33] <OerHeks> !saucy
[20:34] <EriC^^> ok, it's unsupported, he should upgrade
[20:34] <Pici> you have a & where a / should be. also ^
[20:34] <VlanX> Eric^^ no but i have the ubuntu dvd
[20:34] <niklas_e> is lts 13.10
[20:34] <EriC^^> VlanX: ok, boot it
[20:34] <k1l> niklas_e: no
[20:34] <k1l> niklas_e: 12.04, 14.04 (and 16.04 will be) lts
[20:35] <k1l> niklas_e: 13.10 sources are shutdown. you need to change them to upgrade to 14.04. see the bots message:
[20:35] <k1l> !eolupgrades | niklas_e
[20:35] <Asmodee> what would you think if someone was telling he would need 10 hours to install a ubuntu server on a nas ?
[20:35] <VlanX> Eric^^ I belive i will need to type smth on the console right?
[20:36] <yuciyuar> hi. is it ok using php 5.5 on ubuntu 12.04?
[20:36] <EriC^^> VlanX: yeah
[20:36] <EriC^^> VlanX: after it boots
[20:36] <niklas_e> Thanks.
[20:37] <dina_> OK, I'll ask it here: I try to make my old Lexmark Z815 work on Xubuntu, but cannot find the CUPS files on the internet. Does anyone have them?
[20:37] <VlanX> Eric^^ I had to leave my parents house where this pc is so I will be able to do this only tomorrow. Could you please give me a hint on what thus command is or how to look for it?
[20:38] <Garheade> yuciyuar: I don't see a reason why not.
[20:38] <Garheade> yuciyuar: see here for help installing | http://askubuntu.com/questions/109404/how-do-i-install-latest-php-in-supported-ubuntu-versions-like-5-4-x-in-ubuntu-1/109544#109544
[20:38] <niklas_e> Thanks ;)
[20:38] <niklas_e> That explained a lot
[20:39] <EriC^^> VlanX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[20:39] <EriC^^> VlanX: follow the guide from step 6 probably, sudo fdisk -l or sudo parted -l ....
[20:40] <VlanX> Thanks so much EriC^^ means a lot
[20:40] <EriC^^> VlanX: if you're using uefi you need to mount the fat32 efi partition to /mnt/boot/efi before chrooting
[20:40] <EriC^^> VlanX: no problem
[20:41] <yuciyuar> sudo apt-get upgrade, upgrades distro or repo?
[20:42] <k1l> yuciyuar: neither
[20:42] <yuciyuar> so?
[20:42] <EriC^^> yuciyuar: it upgrades the packages that are installed
[20:42] <k1l> yuciyuar: on ubuntu it just upgrades packages
[20:42] <EriC^^> yuciyuar: without the kernel, and some others maybe
[20:42] <bazhang> yuciyuar, perhaps you meant dist-upgrade
[20:42] <yuciyuar> i mean if it will upgrade from 12.04 to 12.04.x its bad for me
[20:43] <k1l> yuciyuar: why is it bad?
[20:43] <yuciyuar> my ati card driver, supporting up to 12.04.1
[20:43] <k1l> yuciyuar: 12.04.2 is "just" a pointrelease. think of it like a servicepack from windows. its a summarized updates state.
[20:44] <k1l> yuciyuar: why exactly? because of the kernel? you can stick to the main kernel version it was shipped with
[20:44] <yuciyuar> k1l, yes, kernel i guess
[20:45] <yuciyuar> im new to linux, and dunno settings deeply
[20:46] <k1l> yuciyuar: to install updates you need to run the apt-get update commmand to get the updated package list from the servers. but the apt-get upgrade program will update the packages on your system then. but it will not change the kernel version
[20:46] <DexterF> yuciyuar: what ati card is that? (by the way, technically should be an AMD card unless it is really, really old)
[20:47] <Asmodee> my ati card is ati and is only 8 years
[20:47] <yuciyuar> k1l, i tried, and it updated to 12.04 to 12.04.5 with upgrade
[20:48] <k1l> yuciyuar: yes. that is correct.
[20:48] <k1l> yuciyuar: so does the card stil work?
[20:48] <yuciyuar> DexterF, ati mobility radeon hd4570
[20:48] <yuciyuar> it works with 12.04
[20:49] <DexterF> should be perfectly supported by the open drivers in any recent or semi-recent linux.
[20:49] <k1l> yuciyuar: you said you updated your 12.04 which made it 12.04.5 which is actually as intended
[20:49] <leonardo__> hello
[20:50] <yuciyuar> DexterF, open source drivers work well, but i cant tweak such as contrast settings
[20:50] <yuciyuar> and its really necessary for my lcd to reduce contrast
[20:51] <neorpheus> hello there, anyone know  where i might find some info about relocating programs from the package manager to another partition/hdd? im not entirly sure what im looking for hence my google foo is failing
[20:51] <DexterF> yuciyuar: and in .5 the binary ati/amd driver does not support that chip anymore?
[20:51] <yuciyuar> i can only tweak contrast with amdccc
[20:51] <k1l> yuciyuar: so does that card work after you upgraded the 12.04 install: yes or no?
[20:51] <yuciyuar> DexterF, yes, up to 12.04.1
[20:52] <DexterF> yuciyuar: xcalib --contrast [percentage] -- alter
[20:53] <DexterF> absolutely can be done, might not be as gui-click-slider as amdccc, given
[20:53] <k1l> yuciyuar: so did you try it?
[20:53] <DexterF> welcome to the console :)
[20:53] <yuciyuar> k1l, try what
[20:53] <k1l> yuciyuar: you said you updated your 12.04 install. is that right?
[20:54] <k1l> (so it became a 12.04.5, which is intended)
[20:54] <yuciyuar> yeap  i did
[20:54] <k1l> so you actually have a 12.04.5 now?
[20:54] <yuciyuar> but i format and install again to 12.04
[20:54] <k1l> what is "lsb_release -d" and "uname -a" then?
[20:55] <guest2121212> hey daftykins^, you here?
[20:55] <neorpheus> i guess im asking if there is some way to set up a /usr /bin /etc and what not on /dev/sda2 instead of the default locations on /dev/sda1 which ubuntu created during install
[20:55] <guest2121212> i left my laptop sitting overnight and when i just checked it, it seems to have finished installing the desktop, but still sitting at the command line thing where i typed the commands to install the desktop last night
[20:55] <yuciyuar> k1l, Description:	Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[20:55] <guest2121212> is it safe to reboot the system or should i put in another command?
[20:55] <k1l> yuciyuar: you cant stay on 12.04 without running updates. actually your system will have security issues that a 9 year old can use.
[20:56] <k1l> yuciyuar: so what was the issue on 12.04.5?
[20:56] <k1l> yuciyuar: did it change the kernel?
[20:57] <guest2121212> EriC^^: ^ are you here as well? or Bashing-om ^ ?
[20:57] <EriC^^> guest2121212: what's up?
[20:58] <guest2121212> i think the desktop finished installign (its me again), im sitting back at that command line area where i had input the command previously, i just want to make sure i can reboot and dont have to input any other commands first
[20:58] <k1l> yuciyuar: i still try to get to know what the issue is. besides "amd says only up to 12.04.1" because that is not really a technical reason. the .1 , .2 ,.3 .... releases are just servicepacks states. they only have a new kernel if you make a clean install with them or manually change the kernel
[20:58] <DexterF> will ubuntu on a fresh install detect SSD by itself and apply trim@boot time, noatime n fstab and such itself?
[20:59] <yuciyuar> k1ll, i'll give link
[20:59] <k1l> DexterF: iirc it will make a cron trim thingy once a week. yes
[20:59] <bekks> DexterF: Trim will be applied, noatime will not be applied.
[21:00] <EriC^^> guest2121212: yeah you should be able to reboot
[21:00] <k1l> yuciyuar: i dont mind what amd/ati says. i want to hear what it was when you tested the upgrade (which is just an update actually).
[21:01] <guest2121212> ok, just like, turning the thing off and on with the power button, right? no need to reboot via command?
[21:01] <EriC^^> guest2121212: no, don't do that
[21:01] <b00b00> hello
[21:01] <Bashing-om> guest2121212: I just arrived, playing catchup .. OK, booting to a terminal, at the terminal what results ' sudo service lightdm start ' ?
[21:02] <EriC^^> guest2121212: always reboot using the menu or sudo reboot
[21:02] <guest2121212> oh man
[21:02] <guest2121212> that explaisn so much
[21:02] <guest2121212> ok so i should just go hit sudo reset on it now right?
[21:02] <EriC^^> sudo reboot, it won't harm, let it boot into the new kernel
[21:03] <EriC^^> you did type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade as daftykins suggested, right?
[21:03] <yuciyuar> k1l, i used update manager, and click update as i remember
[21:03] <b00b00> i am trying to create a script to install nagios as auto install, how can i do it so nagios will receive postfix, admin pass and so on needed details when installing from within the script? thanks
[21:03] <Bashing-om> guest2121212: Will not hurt to 'sudo shutdown -r now ' and see what results . A hard reboot from button is a bad bad thing ! as it leaves files open and liable to file system corruption .
[21:04] <guest2121212> ok, will do
[21:04] <yuciyuar>  even i dont remember i used upgrade
[21:04] <Pathfinder> b00b00: Lol...wanted to ask the exact same thing
[21:04] <b00b00> Pathfinder: good, lets create a channel dedicated for that :)
[21:04] <k1l> yuciyuar: like i explained. that apt-get upgrade command is actually doing an update. and you need to do that to get security updates.
[21:05] <k1l> yuciyuar: so i still dont know why you dont want to run that updates besides someone saying its only supported up to 12.04.1. which technically is wrong without any further reason
[21:05] <guest2121212> haha, so
[21:05] <guest2121212> remember that black screen with the blinking cursor? its back
[21:06] <EriC^^> guest2121212: boot using nomodeset
[21:06] <yuciyuar> k1l, the reason is that. nothing more; Automated installer and Display Drivers for Xorg 6.9 to Xserver 1.12 and Kernel version up to 3.4
[21:06] <k1l> yuciyuar: see this picture: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2BAC8-Support.A12.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support that are the available kernel versions. but you dont need to upgrade to 3.13. you still can run with 3.2
[21:07] <k1l> yuciyuar: see above.
[21:07] <guest2121212> i'll try to, like i said last night, the black screen shows up whenever i turn the thing on, im trying to maybe get to grub by a boot device
[21:07] <guest2121212> what was the command again
[21:07] <EriC^^> hold shift to get grub
[21:07] <wafflejock> guest2121212, tap shift to see the grub boot menu if you aren't already getting to it, e to edit, add nomodeset where you see quiet or nosplash, x to boot
[21:08] <EriC^^> press e, add nomodeset
[21:08] <guest2121212> ok so the only boot option i can get is the usb
[21:08] <guest2121212> which
[21:08] <guest2121212> wait a minute
[21:08] <yuciyuar> k1l, u're right, if i can disable updating kernel and xorg properly, i will try
[21:08] <guest2121212> I'M AT MY DESKTOP
[21:09] <Pathfinder> b00b00: Haha..cool..lol..what would the name even be ... :o !!!
[21:09] <guest2121212> i just have to boot from usb for some reason
[21:10] <guest2121212> i cant believe its finally fixed
[21:10] <k1l> yuciyuar: read the page i linked: "Anyone running an original Precise stack will NOT be automatically updated to the new Trusty HWE stack. Users can electively choose to install the Trusty enablement stack meta package if they wish to do so."
[21:11] <yuciyuar> k1l, right, i didnt choose, but anyway it updated to 12.04.05
[21:11] <yuciyuar> :d
[21:11] <k1l> yuciyuar: so you did that upgrade manually last time. if you have a 12.04 or 12.04.1 install it will stay on the "old" kernel and x stack.
[21:11] <k1l> yuciyuar: its is called 12.04.5 every time
[21:11] <yuciyuar> and i didnt know how to manually choosing and didnt checked what it make update
[21:12] <k1l> yuciyuar: its not naming the kernel or x stack. dont mix that
[21:12] <Bashing-om> yuciyuar: Background: Existing restricted drivers from AMD won't work either, because they require X-server v1.12 and Ubuntu 12.04.2 ++ uses X-server v1.13 ; That's because, starting with Ubuntu 12.04.2, the X-server version was updated to a newer version that is now incompatible with the HD 2x/3x/4x series AMD cards. Terminal command ' X -version ' to determine the x-server version.
[21:12] <k1l> yuciyuar: every 12.04 install will be named 12.04.5 now. no matter if the old kernel or the new kernel is used.
[21:13] <yuciyuar> Bashing-om, right
[21:14] <yuciyuar> k1l, i get you. i'll try
[21:15] <yuciyuar> in fact, i dont really need 12.04 if i can tweak lcd contrast via an open source driver
[21:16] <yuciyuar> the reason why i use this version is, amdccc work and i can tweak lcd contrast with it
[21:16] <k1l> yuciyuar: not running the updates is not an option because you will not have security updates like shellstorm or heartbleed then.
[21:16] <OerHeks> yuciyuar, twesk contrast on the lcdmonitor itself?
[21:17] <yuciyuar> btw, i rly need for twak contrast, not brightness setting, coz my lcd making humming noise if i reduce via brightness
[21:18] <yuciyuar> OerHeks, i use laptop and it doesnt have any contrast button
[21:18] <OerHeks> oh i c
[21:23] <b00b00> Pathfinder: i asked here because of apt-get, i assume if we install (compiling) .tar.gz version, so it easier
[21:24] <b00b00> but longer install ofcourse
[21:26] <docmur_2> I had an update go back and now when I try to chroot into my 12.04 install i get: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-close.c: 759: _dl_close: Assertion `map->l_init_called' failed!
[21:26] <docmur_2> how do I fix this
[21:26] <daftykins> docmur_2: what was the actual command that resulted in that message?
[21:27] <docmur_2> chroot /mnt/root which is the mounted corrupted root file
[21:27] <daftykins> mechanical disk?
[21:27] <docmur_2> ya
[21:27] <daftykins> can you check the SMART info from it first before going any further?
[21:28] <docmur_2> I was able to chroot it until it tried to access /dev/pts and then it crapped the bed
[21:28] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX | pastebinit
[21:28] <pmp6nl> Hey, eye of gnome doesnt appear to be displaying jpgs correctly. If I convert from tif to jpg eog displays the jpg with less color. This doesnt happen with other viewers. Any ideas? Thanks
[21:28] <docmur_2> and okay I'll check smart
[21:28] <daftykins> obviously where sdX is the disk
[21:29] <docmur_2> doing that now
[21:29] <docmur_2> have to install it first
[21:31] <docmur_2> http://pastie.org/10197475  The disk doesn't support smart according to the tool
[21:31] <daftykins> docmur_2: "HP" is this a server?
[21:32] <daftykins> oh that looks like a RAID.
[21:32] <daftykins> heh
[21:32] <docmur_2> yes the disks are raided, we have 8 disks functioning as 1
[21:32] <docmur_2> sorry should of mentioned that
[21:32] <docmur_2> :-)
[21:32] <daftykins> indeed you should! what is the HBA?
[21:32] <daftykins> is it software or hardware RAID?
[21:32] <docmur_2> Hardware Raid
[21:33] <daftykins> is it in a good state? not degraded?
[21:33] <docmur_2> should be fine, was working up until this morning, we've done a fsck on it with only 0.9 non continous
[21:34] <daftykins> you mentioned /dev/pts access - did you mount all of the required extras after mounting the RAID's / ?
[21:35] <docmur_2> mount -o bind /dev/ /mnt/root/dev;  mount -t proc proc /mnt/root/proc;  mount -o bind /run /mnt/root/run/;  mount -o bind /dev/pts /mnt/root/pts
[21:35] <docmur_2> then chroot /mnt/root
[21:36] <daftykins> does the live USB version match the host installed version?
[21:37] <docmur_2> The live cd version is the same, should I move from live 12.04 to live 14.04
[21:37] <daftykins> nah just hoping they matched closely
[21:37] <Bashing-om> yuciyuar: What you can do is install 12.04.1 from: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/ . Do Not enable the HardWare Enablement stack, update and upgrade as nornal, you will remain on the supported Xserver version . ( I too fall into that catagory, so I do know ) .
[21:38] <MadHatter42> hello
[21:38] <MadHatter42> i'm trying to add a custom kernel module
[21:38] <MadHatter42> (its a simple hello world really)
[21:39] <MadHatter42> its for an asingment
[21:39] <k1l> Bashing-om: he did install a 12.04 and was just irritated since its called 12.04.5 after the regular upgrade no matter what kernel it got.
[21:39] <MadHatter42> but the kernel that i downloaded has a different structure from the one i was working on my lab
[21:39] <docmur_2> what about removing /mnt/root/dev/pts?
[21:40] <MadHatter42> when i try to compile my kernel i get a
[21:40] <MadHatter42> undified reference to sys_hello
[21:40] <Bashing-om> guest2121212: Still setting pretty ?
[21:40] <daftykins> docmur_2: mmm don't think so, what's the plan after getting it mounted?
[21:40] <guest2121212> havent checked it in a while, but yeah, if i run into any problems i'll be back!
[21:40] <daftykins> MadHatter42: may be better in ##linux since technically your query is not ubuntu OS support
[21:40] <docmur_2> once we get it to chroot then I can continue with the apt-get dist-upgrade which should sort this issue out
[21:40] <Bashing-om> k1l: ;) .. Then he should be good .
[21:40] <daftykins> ah yeah bad update you sad, my bad
[21:41] <MadHatter42> daftykins, i was using ubuntu 12
[21:41] <MadHatter42> but my the later version of the kernel have this weirder dir structure
[21:42] <daftykins> MadHatter42: yes but your query is not of Ubuntu support :)
[21:42] <MadHatter42> daftykins, asking in #linux
[21:42] <MadHatter42> thnx
[21:43] <MadHatter42> daftykins, ever compiled a custom kernel ?
[21:43] <MadHatter42> just asking
[21:43] <skinux> Ubuntu keeps wanting me to install updates, but every time I try it tells me to check my internet connection. This makes no sense as the internet is working fine, I'm on a high-speed cable connection.
[21:43] <daftykins> docmur_2: i guess you can try, i think i'd just start looking up your initial error online
[21:43] <k1l> skinux: please show in a pastebin "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[21:45] <luisalonsocn> Hi all. I have a Lenovo Ultrabook u310 on a distro based on ubuntu 14.0, and my laptop running too hot
[21:45] <LeEarl> yo
[21:45] <LeEarl> guys does office 2013 work on ubuntu 12/14 ?
[21:45] <skinux> https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/4f8bf98b41fe915d04df
[21:45] <daftykins> luisalonsocn: 14.04?
[21:46] <k1l> skinux: holy moly. you are mixing raring and trusty repos. and maverick ones.
[21:46] <daftykins> ouch
[21:46] <skinux> Well, I'm not doing that on purpose.
[21:46] <k1l> skinux: please show a "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[21:47] <skinux> I updated the Gist
[21:48] <edisto> are there any gui programs that monitor and kill processes that you can call with commands like ctrl+alt+delete when you're frozen?
[21:49] <Johnny_Linux> try htop
[21:49] <daftykins> skinux: wow you've been through a lot of upgrades on the same system huh? or just kept some old PPAs
[21:49] <OerHeks> skinux, my best advise:  do a fresh install.
[21:49] <skinux> Must be a few old PPAs
[21:49] <skinux> No, I'm not doing a fresh install.
[21:50] <edisto> Johnny_Linux: thx
[21:50] <skinux> I'm guessing the connection errors are because it's trying to pull from repositories that no longer exist.
[21:50] <k1l> skinux: see at your sources.list file. on line 62 and 63 its a maverick source.
[21:50] <Johnny_Linux> k
[21:50] <k1l> skinux: then the nemh-gambas3-trusty ppa doesnt exist anymore
[21:51] <k1l> skinux: and the ia32-libs-raring is just a very bad idea anyway
[21:52] <skinux> I'll remove any sources entry which shows as ignored in the apt output.
[21:52] <skinux> That should resolve it.
[21:52] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[21:52] <skinux> How come security and us.archive repos for trusty don't work?
[21:53] <k1l> skinux: they do
[21:53] <skinux> Hmm. Because they are ignored as well.
[21:53] <k1l> skinux: ign is not err
[21:54] <k1l> ign means: no new stuff
[21:54] <skinux> Oh, okay.
[21:59] <skinux> Well, there is no reference to raring in apt sources.list, so it must be PPAs and I don't know how to get a list of installed PPAs nor remove them.
[22:00] <e4946> I'm new to this
[22:00] <daftykins> skinux: the commands k1l gave you were how, they are stored in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[22:00] <e4946> can you tell me how this works
[22:01] <e4946> no one
[22:01] <e4946> ok bye
 skinux: then the nemh-gambas3-trusty ppa doesnt exist anymore <k1l> skinux: and the ia32-libs-raring is just a very bad idea anyway
[22:01] <daftykins> e4946: this channel is ubuntu OS support only, you can ask how the IRC network of freenode works by visiting the channel ("room") #freenode - "/join #freenode" to get there.
[22:01] <e4946> I will be back later
[22:01] <OerHeks> e4946, step one, bepatient.
[22:01] <daftykins> step #1 failed.
[22:01] <skinux> Yes, but I don't know how to remove PPAs.
[22:01] <k1l> skinux: easiest way is open the system settings: updates and software, then the 3rd tab
[22:02] <skinux> wait...maybe it's apt-remove-key
[22:02] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[22:02] <daftykins> skinux: ok but that is why you phrase a question asking how isn't it
[22:05] <docmur> this is still docmur_2, I'm going to see if using Ubuntu 14.04 will let me chroot
[22:05] <daftykins> i don't think that's a worthy approach but hey, it won't hurt
[22:05] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to configure a FTP server in ubuntu that uses a username and password ?
[22:06] <daftykins> kokut: do not use FTP, still stuck on this file sharing between two networked PCs thing huh?
[22:07] <tgm4883> FTP very bad
[22:07] <kokut> daftykins: nope i resigned and used a usb stick
[22:07] <kokut> which is stupid because i'm on the same network
[22:07] <daftykins> damn
[22:07] <tgm4883> kokut: both linux machines?
[22:07] <kokut> anyways i need to connect via ftp to the web server from outside the network too so
[22:07] <kokut> tgm4883: ubuntu in both yea
[22:08] <tgm4883> kokut: why not use scp?
[22:08] <daftykins> kokut: yes, so SSH + SCP
[22:08] <tgm4883> SFTP FTW
[22:08] <k1l> kokut: ssh gives sftp login. but sshfs is slower on network due to overheat. easiest would be samba which is somewhat faster. fastest is nfs.
[22:08] <kokut> might give it a try, now i need to find a way to configure ftp like you use with hosting providers and stuff
[22:08] <daftykins> someone suggested kokut browse the second system via nautilus with SFTP earlier, but was unable to help get it working i believe
[22:09] <OerHeks> filezilla works great to connect to a ftp-service
[22:09] <daftykins> kokut: no, FTP is a really bad idea. are you trying to share hosting with other people?
[22:09] <kokut> daftykins: in the future yes
[22:09] <tgm4883> kokut: really, use SFTP, not FTP
[22:09] <kokut> now i just need to get my own websites going
[22:09] <tgm4883> unless you like your passwords in plaintext
[22:09] <daftykins> kokut: with my respect the hurdles that you've been tripping up on so far show that this is a great undertaking.
[22:10] <daftykins> and likely unwise.
[22:11] <kokut> daftykins: i know man i just want to get my websites going then ill have time to worry about security
[22:12] <daftykins> i'm afraid that you're doing it backwards
[22:12] <daftykins> because if you achieve what you want to achieve, you won't go back for the extras :)
[22:12] <daftykins> it's the human condition, you need to learn it properly first time
[22:12] <tgm4883> kokut: I'm not sure what would be difficult about installing ssh and then connecting to it with something like filezilla
[22:12] <awktion> ~_~;
[22:13] <kokut> tgm4883: mkay let me try
[22:13] <luisalonsocn> daftykins: sorry for afk. Yes 14.04
[22:13] <kokut> tgm4883: u have any guides
[22:14] <daftykins> luisalonsocn: and what situation leads you to consider it's overheating / getting too hot? just physical case temperature vs. windows?
[22:14] <Jordan_U> kokut: sftp is actually easier to setup than FTP. That's partly because everyone knows that putting an FTP server on the public internet is a terrible idea, no matter how "temporary".
[22:14] <tgm4883> kokut: any guides for what? Step 1) Install ssh "apt-get install ssh" on the server. Step 2) connect to it with something like filezilla
[22:16] <Jordan_U> kokut: tgm4883: While installing filezilla from Ubuntu's repositories is perfectly safe, the fact that their sourceforge download for Windows includes malware prevents me from ever recommending it.
[22:18] <tgm4883> Jordan_U: what malware?
[22:19] <daftykins> there's WinSCP for Windows anyway
[22:19] <tgm4883> or any other sftp client.
[22:20] <OerHeks> I thought download.com is corrupted, not sourceforge :-(
[22:20] <barnex> Soooo... How do you guys keep track of multiple servers running multiple things?
[22:20] <tgm4883> barnex: define keep track of
[22:20] <barnex> I'm thinking maybe a mind map or some kind of UML-like diagram?
[22:21] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: Sourceforge's own malware, that they pay projects to give to their users. http://trac.filezilla-project.org/ticket/8888 (Note that the developers refuse to fix this problem, they're doing it intentionally for money).
[22:21] <barnex> tgm4883: well, knowing which service is where and which vm is located on which real machine
[22:21] <barnex> what domains point to where etc
[22:21] <barnex> General human-readable information
[22:22] <tgm4883> Jordan_U: bummer
[22:23] <luisalonsocn> daftykins: I was using distro based on Ubuntu 12.04 and my battery and temperature ran good, only I had problem with overheating when I playing video games. One month ago, I migrate to a distro based on Ubuntu 14.04 and my laptop is overheating all time.
[22:23] <tgm4883> barnex: I used lucidchart in the past for that
[22:24] <tgm4883> luisalonsocn: moral of the story, don't migrate to distro's based on ubuntu ;P
[22:24] <Jordan_U> luisalonsocn: This channel doesn't support "distributions based on Ubuntu". It only supports Ubuntu.
[22:24] <daftykins> luisalonsocn: is this Mint or elementary or some such?
[22:24] <daftykins> Jordan_U beats me to it ^_^
[22:25] <daftykins> -s
[22:31] <linuxuz3r> hi
[22:31] <docmur> Using 14.04 didn't help, but it was worth a try, not I'm doing a fsck to see if that helps
[22:32] <linuxuz3r> docmur: what do you need fsck for
[22:32] <daftykins> corrupted RAID
[22:32] <linuxuz3r> ok
[22:32] <docmur> when I try to chroot I get root@ubuntu:~# chroot /mnt/root/
[22:32] <docmur> Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-close.c: 759: _dl_close: Assertion `map->l_init_called' failed!
[22:32] <Bashing-om> linuxuz3r: Hello, A ubuntu support question ?
[22:32] <docmur> Which happened during a apt-get update
[22:32] <linuxuz3r> ok
[22:32] <linuxuz3r> oh
[22:33] <linuxuz3r> check your sources
[22:33] <docmur> and now I can't chroot into the root again
[22:33] <docmur> I have it side running a live cd right now
[22:33] <linuxuz3r> you cant chroot even on ubuntu live usb?
[22:33] <docmur> well I'm on live cd, but no
[22:33] <linuxuz3r> ok
[22:33] <docmur> I was chrooted in and then ran the apt-get update and it crash with that message
[22:33] <docmur> now I can't get back in
[22:34] <EriC^^> try to restart the live usb
[22:34] <linuxuz3r> i dont know how to trouble shoot raid but you raid a ubuntu install
[22:34] <docmur> It's not a raid issue, Ubuntu can see the root data, just something got corrupted in the process
[22:35] <docmur> it's a data corruption, not a raid issue
[22:36] <EriC^^> docmur: it's probably to do with the live usb, as chroot just runs /bin/bash from the install i think
[22:38] <linuxuz3r> why would you raid a root directory
[22:38] <docmur> fair but I have to figure out how to get around this error and whats causing it
[22:38] <luisalonsocn> daftykins: elementary :P
[22:38] <linuxuz3r> is that even a good practice
[22:38] <docmur> Hardware raid
[22:40] <ironhoof> I accidently had the ATI-update drivers installed, and it updated the update had some problems but it still seems to work, but the driver it updated too has skinning issues, is there a way to gt the old drivr back? I tried switching it back from updates to fixed, but it keeps the old driver it seems.
[22:41] <daftykins> ironhoof: you mean AMD, manual download or packages from default repos?
[22:41] <ironhoof> I used the drivers in settings, so which ever that uses.
[22:41] <daftykins> fglrx packages then
[22:42] <daftykins> go back in there and try switching to the other, it should offer you fglrx and fglrx-updates
[22:44] <ironhoof> fglrx-updates is the one i had on, it did update the driver it gave me has issues, so I switched to to fix where I thought I had it, when it did install though it said something about replacing a document gave me a window keep-replace i put the password in, and it didnt proceed, so i rebooted and fixed the packes through dkpg. I was kind of wanting the original driver back though.
[22:44] <HoloIRCUser> Hello there. I am having some trouble with my TTY after installing the package kubuntu-desktop. Can anyone help me?
[22:44] <kokut> so i connected to my web server via sftp and i'm getting the home folder instead i want to get the /var/www/ folder
[22:45] <daftykins> kokut: yes so browse to it, .. goes up
[22:45] <linuxuz3r> hi kokut
[22:45] <HoloIRCUser> Unless I boot into sddm or open KDE, my Ctrl + Alt + FX hotkey will not open any TTY
[22:45] <kokut> daftykins: i know but i just want to be on the /www/ folder when i connect
[22:45] <daftykins> ironhoof: yeah so pick the other one?
[22:45] <kokut> linuxuz3r: hi man
[22:46] <daftykins> kokut: so set that up in the program... honestly you will need to begin thinking for yourself :)
[22:46] <kokut> daftykins: what program?
[22:46] <daftykins> whatever one you're using to connect
[22:46] <ironhoof> Has the same issue, but it didnt prior, im wondering if i should use the open driver, and purge reinstall it again.
[22:46] <kokut> daftykins: i dont know if you can do that in filezilla
[22:46] <daftykins> ironhoof: worth a go, just run sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[22:47] <daftykins> kokut: _yes_ read the readme/manual for the program it will describe how
[22:47] <SchrodingersScat> kokut: if it's sftp then you just need sftp server.com:/var/www/
[22:47] <ironhoof> alright.
[22:48] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: didnt work
[22:48] <SchrodingersScat> did on my machine, what did you do?
[22:49] <kokut> daftykins: k found it in advanced tab :) ty anyways
[22:49] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: dont worry i went to the advanced tab in filezilla and set the directory there
[22:50] <TyrfingMjolnir> Doing a dist-upgrade from lucid to precise
[22:51] <TyrfingMjolnir> WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed.
[22:51] <TyrfingMjolnir> This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
[22:51] <TyrfingMjolnir>   lzma (due to dpkg)
[22:51] <daftykins> TyrfingMjolnir: you cannot dist-upgrade like that
[22:51] <daftykins> it is not supported
[22:51] <TyrfingMjolnir> How to fix?
[22:51] <daftykins> (i'm assuming you mean you edited sources.list and are running a dist-upgrade)
[22:52] <daftykins> TyrfingMjolnir: tell me what you ran first
[22:52] <TyrfingMjolnir> :%s/lucid/precise/g
[22:52] <daftykins> yes very bad idea
[22:52] <daftykins> cancel the current process then revert
[22:52] <TyrfingMjolnir> I have always done like that
[22:52] <enki> fast & fourius 7
[22:52] <daftykins> TyrfingMjolnir: it's not supported :)
[22:52] <HoloIRCUser> How can I modify a package's purge script?
[22:52] <daftykins> 'here be dragons' etc
[22:52] <TyrfingMjolnir> How can I revert?
[22:53] <daftykins> TyrfingMjolnir: like i just said, cancel then edit the sources.list back again
[22:53] <HoloIRCUser> sddm's purge script is broken and I would like to modify it manually
[22:54] <TyrfingMjolnir> daftykins: and then?
[22:54] <tgm4883> TyrfingMjolnir: and then update the proper way
[22:54] <Guest69739> what
[22:54] <OerHeks> HoloIRCUser, did you stop lightdm before purging that displaymanager?
[22:54] <Guest69739> who
[22:54] <daftykins> TyrfingMjolnir: sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:54] <Guest69739> hey yall
[22:54] <daftykins> TyrfingMjolnir: after backing up
[22:55] <Guest69739> what is that porn
[22:55] <OerHeks> !ot | Guest69739
[22:55] <TyrfingMjolnir> ImportError: No module named GnuPGInterface
[22:55] <HoloIRCUser> No, but I want to keep lightdm
[22:55] <Guest69739> p
[22:55] <Guest69739> o
[22:55] <Guest69739> r
[22:55] <Guest69739> n
[22:55] <OerHeks> HoloIRCUser, that is not what i asked, and purging sddm does not remove lightdm.
[22:56] <HoloIRCUser> It's working well, the problem is whatever KDE has installed that is taking the TTY as a hostage
[22:56] <OerHeks> Normally one would stop a service before romving components.
[22:56] <daftykins> Jordan_U: do you have a moment for Guest69739 ? :)
[22:56] <HoloIRCUser> I guess it is sddm
[22:56] <TyrfingMjolnir> https://bpaste.net/show/61d45ab1e3a6
[22:57] <Guest69739> who am i
[22:57] <Guest69739> ping
[22:57] <Guest69739> lj
[22:57] <HoloIRCUser> Should I try to remove lightdm again? I don't think it's what's causing the problem
[22:57] <agent_white> Guest69739: Pong
[22:57] <HoloIRCUser> GDM also fails to use the TTY
[22:58] <Guest69739> hewhat
[22:58] <Guest69739> holoiruser
[22:58] <Guest69739> someone
[22:58] <hexafraction> I'm trying to resize an NTFS partition with small inconsistencies, and am in a difficult spot because the partition has loads of data that I'd prefer not to have to format away, but I no longer have a windows *installation* from which to run a disk check which ntfsresize insists upon. Is there a way to force ntfsresize to do its actions?
[22:59] <hexafraction> Will -f be a good way to go about this?
[23:00] <OerHeks> HoloIRCUser, no, stop lightdm, by going to ctrl alt f1, login, sudo service stop lightdm, then remove sddm and start your gui again with ctrl alt f7
[23:00] <OerHeks> or reboot
[23:01] <HoloIRCUser> I actually can't use Ctrl Alt FX, that's the problem
[23:03] <OerHeks> HoloIRCUser, why not? else i have no clue how to fix it.
[23:03] <TyrfingMjolnir> sudo do-release-upgrade takes med here: https://bpaste.net/show/61d45ab1e3a6
[23:03] <HoloIRCUser> I have no idea. After installing kubuntu-desktop, that function stopped working altogether
[23:04] <Guest69739> hey i need help with alice 2.4
[23:04] <HoloIRCUser> Seems like booting into sddm does the trick, but I want to use lightdm
[23:04] <docmur> it appears it's ld.so which is broken
[23:04] <docmur> does anyone know how to fix that from a live cd?
[23:05] <HoloIRCUser> Oh wait, finally managed to fix it.
[23:05] <HoloIRCUser> After purging sddm by fixing its script, it removed the sddm group and now lightdm can manage TTY again
[23:08] <rusticplague> hello
[23:09] <reisio> 'lo
[23:09] <rusticplague> TDDIRC
[23:09] <rusticplague> #TDDIRC
[23:10] <rusticplague> set height 7"
[23:10] <rusticplague> <img src="">
[23:10] <rusticplague> / hello
[23:10] <rusticplague> testing
[23:10] <rusticplague> ^^
[23:10] <rusticplague> *
[23:10] <rusticplague> * 000)))
[23:10] <rusticplague> (hello)
[23:11] <rusticplague> print "hello"
[23:11] <rusticplague> #ubuntu
[23:11] <Jordan_U> rusticplague: Please stop.
[23:11] <ruth> hi, guys, we have two computers each with a headset. We want to talk to each other on the headsets. We thought Mumble would work, but we can't get it to work right. Does anyone know what to do?
[23:13] <docmur> This is the data from the apt-get update, if it helps http://pastie.org/10197576
[23:14] <rusticplague> exit
[23:14] <SchrodingersScat> ruth: mumble should work, are you both connected to the same server?
[23:14] <rusticplague> can someone please tell me the command to leave current chat room?
[23:15] <Jordan_U> rusticplague: /part
[23:15] <EriC^^> rusticplague: /quit or /part to just leave the channel
[23:15] <rusticplague> thank you
[23:16] <ruth> Well, we don't know what server to get, but other people are connected to it. How do we get our own server?
[23:16] <ruth> We tried one and other people were connected to it.
[23:18] <SchrodingersScat> ruth: if you want to run your own server, install mumble-server on a machine you can both connect to.
[23:21] <TyrfingMjolnir> Following this approach: https://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-04-from-ubuntu-10-04-via-the-terminal/ giving me this: https://bpaste.net/show/a0d247927915 how to fix?
[23:23] <CryptoSiD> is vivid still the last ubuntu version?
[23:23] <SchrodingersScat> !vivid | CryptoSiD
[23:23] <SchrodingersScat> CryptoSiD: yes
[23:24] <CryptoSiD> no testing ver?
[23:24] <Jordan_U> TyrfingMjolnir: While that guide seems to be fine, you should never use a blog post when there is official documentation available.
[23:24] <CryptoSiD> wily is the last version:)
[23:24] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu+1 | CryptoSiD
[23:25] <yeats> TyrfingMjolnir: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1767358&page=2&p=12219409#post12219409 might help
[23:26] <TyrfingMjolnir> yeats: and we are on
[23:26] <CryptoSiD> ho sorry didnt knew about ubuntu+1
[23:26] <CryptoSiD> :D
[23:28] <SchrodingersScat> CryptoSiD: yeah, alpha/beta is offtopic here, feel free to have fun with those guys though :)
[23:28] <CryptoSiD> im just addicted to updates so:D
[23:28] <vanna> Hello
[23:28] <vanna> why i'm update cannot install on store
[23:29] <shudon> hi all :) what video card should i buy if i want opengl 4.2+ with an open source driver? (good performance might be nice, too...)
[23:29] <shudon> use my nick to reply, gotta brb 5 minutes :)
[23:29] <saberros1776> yo
[23:32] <nagerst> i am having problems with bumblebee, i have followed the official install guide, but nothing seems to work for me. I have tried reinstalling the entire os several times.
[23:33] <blue403> what happens with a shell background process that requires input from stdin?
[23:34] <lillinuxandmacgu> I am currently running ubuntu 15.04 on a macbook pro 2011 (not my only linux laptop, the rest are on PCs) and I am having problems getting the trackpad to work properly, anyone got any ideas. Its a late 2011 macbook pro i7
[23:34] <bekks> blue403: It wont get input, because it is in background.
[23:34] <blue403> bekks: but it's running
[23:35] <bekks> blue403: It runs because it waits for input.
[23:36] <shudon> back
[23:36] <blue403> what does it mean that a process is in the background?
[23:39] <bekks> blue403: Imagine having two sheets of paper, you're writing on. The sheet in the background "waits for input", because the is a question printed on it. As long as that sheet is behind the foreground sheet, it "waits".
[23:40] <LeEarl> blue403, it means it is not in the foreground ;D
[23:41] <blue403> bekks: well.. the bg process is running afaik.
[23:41] <LeEarl> blue403, it simple laymen terms it means it is running but u cant see it. Just like your tummy is digesting food but u r not seeing it
[23:41] <blue403> bekks: if the bg process prints, it gets printend to the console. But what about input?
[23:41] <bekks> blue403: Of course. "Running" means, the background sheet of paper exists,
[23:41] <Buffy> That awkward moment when you realize you're a version behind
[23:42] <Buffy> Fuck
[23:42] <LeEarl> blue403, u saw the processes of food input and output but never digestion.
[23:42] <LeEarl> so digestion is happening in the background
[23:42] <bekks> blue403: you cannot input stuff on the background sheet of paper / the background process.
[23:42] <blue403> LeEarl: is the bg process in running or blocked?
[23:42] <bekks> It is RUNNING and WAITING for input.
[23:42] <LeEarl> of course running
[23:43] <LeEarl> bekks why u keep asking?
[23:43] <blue403> bekks: what if it's just in a for loop, then it isn't waiting for input.
[23:43] <LeEarl> what is going on there?
[23:43] <bekks> LeEarl: I am not asking.
[23:43] <LeEarl> sorry I mean blue403
[23:43] <blue403> LeEarl: but if it happens to be waiting, it means that it has done a system call to read, right?
[23:43] <bekks> blue403: If something in that loop waits for input, it waits for input.
[23:43] <bekks> blue403: forget system calls.
[23:43] <blue403> bekks: and how'll that be noticed in the shell?
[23:44] <LeEarl> blue403, it does whatever it is intended to do
[23:44] <bekks> blue403: It doesnt get noticed on the foreground sheet, that there is a question to be answered on the background sheet.
[23:44] <LeEarl> blue403 u need an app to show the running processes
[23:45] <LeEarl> or programs
[23:45] <bekks> blue403: It is like pinning a sheet of paper with a question on it to your living room wall. you can walk around it, look at it, laugh at it, but never answer it. It still is pinned there and waits in despair.
[23:46] <blue403> are you guys trolling?
[23:46] <blue403> I'm asking kernel specific implementations
[23:46] <bekks> blue403: You did not.
[23:46] <bekks> you asked about background processes.
[23:46] <LeEarl> blue403, http://hisham.hm/htop/
[23:46] <LeEarl> blue403, is this #kernel ?
[23:47] <brainwash> !kernel
[23:47] <bekks> background processes are nor kernel specific, but happen in userland.
[23:48] <bekks> The kernel itself is a big "program" with a hive of threads doing specific things.
[23:51] <Angi12> hola como estan
[23:52] <Jordan_U> blue403: A program that tries to read from stdin when there is nothing to be read will block on that read. If a program is in the background then there is nothing to be read from stdin.