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| natefinch | rick_h_: I don't suppose you're actually online? | 01:57 |
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| schkovich | hi guys! where could i find more information on state-port and syslog-port? im setting firewall on juju state-server. a bit more understanding on services exposed on those two ports would be helpful. | 10:41 |
| schkovich | x248aGent£ | 11:04 |
| stub | Design question. A client charm is related to the PostgreSQL charm, and needs to use a PostgreSQL extension. eg. it needs to tell the unit to install a package from a PPA. | 12:51 |
| stub | Should the client charm be allowed to instruct the PostgreSQL charm to add the PPA and install the package? Or do I need to also have a subordinate charm that does the package installation? | 12:52 |
| stub | subordinate seems messy (although trivial, as it would be a 3 line install hook and a pile of boilerplate to keep charm-proof happy) | 12:53 |
| stub | But allowing a client service to instruct the db to install arbitrary packages from arbitrary locations? That seems a security problem. | 12:54 |
| stub | Well, the third option is to have the operator specify the ppa and package to install in the PostgreSQL service's config. I'm guessing that is the best option. | 12:55 |
| stub | (and I can now block the client until the operator has actually done it) | 12:56 |
| lazyPower | cory_fu: ping | 13:33 |
| cory_fu | Hey | 13:33 |
| lazyPower | greetings, can you join me in#juju-gui for a minute? Frankban is asking about some specifics w/ SF that i'm not familiar with | 13:33 |
| marcoceppi | lazyPower: tell him to join us over here ;) | 13:40 |
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| schkovich | is there a way to setup to which interface on machine n juju ssh n will be connect eg configure ssh proxy on the state server? | 15:57 |
| lamont | I have a subordinate-charm question, which I suppose I could just code up and see, but it's not clear from the docs.. | 16:12 |
| lamont | if I have subordinate charms A and B, and A needs some info from B, is there a relation there? | 16:13 |
| marcoceppi | lamont: both are subordinates? | 16:17 |
| marcoceppi | presumably attached to the same primary? | 16:18 |
| lazyPower | lamont: you can write a relationship that will allow them to exchange data, but you cannot deploy a subordinate to a subordinate. | 16:18 |
| lamont | yes, same primary, both subord | 16:18 |
| lamont | lazyPower: so I need to create a relationship for them to share info, just like they're real charms and everything. (DOH) | 16:19 |
| lamont | that would go a long way to explaining WHY THE CHARM ISN'T DOING WHAT THE AUTHOR THOUGHT | 16:19 |
| lazyPower | lamont: correct - adding a relationship/interface to do that data-exchange should be teh asme process as any other charm :) | 16:19 |
| lazyPower | lamont: can i ask what you're trying to do so i have more context? | 16:20 |
| lamont | hp-health thinks it's getting data from nrpe-external-master | 16:20 |
| lamont | and it's all lies | 16:20 |
| lamont | (it shows up as blank hostnames in the nagios files that are exported) | 16:20 |
| lazyPower | thats fun | 16:21 |
| lamont | I can see we're going to need to work on your understanding of the definition of "fun" :p | 16:21 |
| lazyPower | yeah if you need to proxy information through - i ran into this w/ the docker/flannel-docker stuff | 16:21 |
| lazyPower | i'm using flannel-docker to proxy info directly to docker (docker manages the docker config - no exceptions) - so teh subordinate is acting as an informatoin proxy and a payload delivery mechanism | 16:21 |
| lazyPower | the mechanics are a bit alien at first glance | 16:22 |
| lazyPower | it sounds like you have some of the same requirements for behavior in this particular setup | 16:23 |
| lamont | hrm... and which is the primary charm there? | 16:28 |
| lamont | properly, the main charm could proxy the nagios hostname from n-e-m and just populate it into all the other subordinate relations | 16:29 |
| lamont | or n-e-m could write it to a file :D | 16:29 |
| lamont | even though that feels wrong | 16:29 |
| lamont | n-e-m needs a good rewrite from scratch | 16:30 |
| lazyPower | lamont: thats highly dependent on context, and which is the manager of the concerns | 16:30 |
| lazyPower | http://blog.dasroot.net/2015-charm-encapsulation.html | 16:30 |
| * lamont will do some reading | 16:35 | |
| lamont | and, of course, lp:charms/trusty/nrpe is the perfect place to begin this quest | 16:43 |
| tvansteenburgh | jw4: you around? | 16:55 |
| jw4 | tvansteenburgh: yes, but OTP for a bit | 16:56 |
| jw4 | tvansteenburgh: feel free to ask and I'll try to multitask :) | 16:56 |
| tvansteenburgh | jw4: afaict, the Action.ListAll api does not return info about actions run on subordinates | 16:58 |
| tvansteenburgh | jw4: wanted to check with you before filing a bug | 16:59 |
| tvansteenburgh | jw4: subordinate actions also don't seem to send any updates to the AllWatcher | 17:02 |
| jw4 | tvansteenburgh: hmm - I don't know of a specific concept of subordinate actions, but I assume you mean actions on subordinate units? | 17:07 |
| tvansteenburgh | jw4: yes | 17:08 |
| rick_h_ | natefinch: heads up I'm around now if you still need anything | 17:08 |
| jw4 | tvansteenburgh: actions and the actions watcher don't know about subordinates, so if you query actions on a unit it doesn't know to look for subordinates | 17:08 |
| jw4 | tvansteenburgh: seems like a viable candidate for a bug report | 17:09 |
| natefinch | rick_h_: was wondering why there's no link to the juju blog on the top of jujucharms.com | 17:09 |
| natefinch | rick_h_: most of core didn't even know there was a blog | 17:09 |
| tvansteenburgh | jw4: thanks for confirmation, will file bug | 17:09 |
| rick_h_ | natefinch: because the blog isn't updated/big enuogh to warrant a link at the top :) and the homepage/community shows recent posts | 17:09 |
| jw4 | tvansteenburgh: cool | 17:09 |
| rick_h_ | "Latest from the blog" | 17:10 |
| natefinch | rick_h_: fair enough. It looks like it's all external posts... do we have the ability to have our own posts hosted on jujucharms.com? | 17:10 |
| rick_h_ | natefinch: so this is from the aggregator with things tagged juju I thought? /me dbl check. https://jujucharms.com/community/blog | 17:11 |
| rick_h_ | natefinch: you'd have to check with the web team where/how the aggregation is pulled in. | 17:11 |
| natefinch | rick_h_: ok, thanks | 17:11 |
| natefinch | gah, I hate exceptions | 17:16 |
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| lazyPower | wwitzel3: hey have you ever seen this happen before? | 18:03 |
| lazyPower | http://i.imgur.com/7CGtl8k.png | 18:03 |
| lazyPower | wwitzel3: it appears I managed to trap 2 executing hooks at the same time | 18:03 |
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| bac | tvansteenburgh: ping | 18:39 |
| tvansteenburgh | bac: pong | 18:41 |
| lamont | what does relation-ids want for an argument? interface name? | 20:17 |
| lamont | yeah. relation-name | 20:18 |
| * lamont goes back to headscratching | 20:18 | |
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| tvansteenburgh | jw4: fyi https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1457205 | 20:31 |
| mup | Bug #1457205: Subordinate charm Action data not reported by API <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1457205> | 20:31 |
| jw4 | thanks tvansteenburgh | 20:31 |
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