=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam === salem_ is now known as _salem === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun [05:24] mcphail: Ping [05:27] mcphail: My template is completely broken, the whole thing can be simplified to the point where run.sh is no longer necessary, but until https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsdl2/+bug/1448544 is resolved things won't work anyway I think [05:27] Launchpad bug 1448544 in libsdl2 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] SDL_Init() crashes on the bq Aquaris E4.5 phone" [Undecided,New] [06:30] good morning [06:42] dholbach: morning! [06:45] hey sturmflut2 [07:09] balloons, bzoltan, I have qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu 3.1.1+15.04.20150420.1-0ubuntu2 but still don't have the new html5 template with the cool tests [07:09] am I doing it wrong? === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [07:27] Good morning! [07:36] dholbach: let me check it [07:38] dholbach: I just copied the qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu - 3.1.1+15.10.20150514-0ubuntu1~0vivid2 to the SDK PPA [07:39] dholbach: wait a sec .. it is conflicting [07:40] dholbach: The qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu - 3.1.1+15.10.20150514-0ubuntu1~0vivid2 was many days ago released in the SDK PPA [07:43] bzoltan, oh... I just had the staging ppa... could that be the issue? [07:44] dholbach: It is indeed the issue [07:45] so I would need to enable both(?) [07:48] dpm, does the help app show up in German for you? [07:48] Hi bzoltan. I would like to create a ubuntu 14.10 click chroot on ubuntu 14.04. The command I use is "sudo click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-14.10 create" [07:49] However, the kit creation fails: "E: Unable to locate package qtsensors5-dev" [07:49] Do you have an idea what I could do? [07:50] dholbach, I haven't tried, let me change the language of my phone and reboot, just a minute [07:51] thanks dpm === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN [08:03] dpm, it doesn't work for me - neither on the desktop, nor on the phone [08:03] dholbach, same here, interface is in English [08:04] ok [08:05] https://bugs.launchpad.net/help-app/+bug/1456929 [08:05] Launchpad bug 1456929 in Ubuntu Help App "Translations don't show up on the phone" [High,Triaged] [08:06] dpm, starting this on the desktop with the ubuntu-html5-app-launcher I get http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11240590/ [08:06] which leads me to believe that it's a but for dbarth_'s team [08:07] dholbach, it is. Looking at the first line, it does not detect the language correctly [08:07] dholbach, I thought they had fixed that bug [08:08] dbarth_, alex-abreu: ^ [08:08] is that unity-webapps-qml? [08:08] or is it oxide? [08:14] dbarth_, I assigned this to https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-webapps-qml/+bug/1456929 [08:14] Launchpad bug 1456929 in Ubuntu Help App "Translations don't show up on the phone" [High,Triaged] [08:14] thanks for confirming dpm [08:49] checking [08:50] dholbach: The staging is for development releases. I would disable it. [08:50] danielbe: what version of the qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu package do you have? [08:50] dholbach: you use navigator.language if i remember [08:51] dbarth_, yes [08:51] userLocale = navigator.language || navigator.userLanguage; [08:51] dbarth_, ^ [08:51] bzoltan: I create the kit chroot from the command line on a amazon AWS server running the official ubuntu 14.04 LTS image. [08:53] danielbe: You need to enabled the SDK PPA -> `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa` [08:53] bzoltan: Here is the result when running "sudo click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-14.10 create": http://paste.ubuntu.com/11135043/ [08:53] danielbe: and apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade [08:56] bzoltan: will dist.upgrade not upgrade the server to 15.04? [08:59] danielbe: :) No, the apt-get dist-upgarde is a legendary misunderstood command... it does not upgrade your distro to a _different_ release. It is upgrading the actual release. The diff compare to the upgrade is that it pulls kernel upgrades and upgrades packages installed from PPAs [09:00] bzoltan hehe :-) [09:01] danielbe: for more details `man apt-get` and just /dist-upgrade [09:02] dholbach: the variable is correctly set afaict; testing oxide 1.7.8 currently on vivid dev-proposed from yesterday [09:02] ie it says fr-FR [09:03] however, i still see the english text in help-app [09:03] dbarth_, you can branch lp:help-app and run "make launch" in there [09:09] bzoltan: it worked. Thanks! [09:12] danielbe: Good to hear :) [09:16] * bzoltan dreams of a Control panel -> developer mode ON/OFF what triggers an add-apt-repository sdk PPA and apt-get install sdk :) [09:42] oSoMoN_: as far as i see the ctr issue is not due to 1.7.8; it is the same with the standard arale image [09:59] does anybody know when this will finally be fixed ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1309042 I still cant use the calendar on my phone because of this [09:59] Launchpad bug 1309042 in Ubuntu Calendar App "Calendar sync only syncs the default calendar" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [10:01] dbarth_, and CTR works here on my krillin with 1.7.8 [10:04] sturmflut2: thanks for getting back to me about the SDL framework. I'd come to the same conclusions but think it is fixable. I've had a build working on the device and I'm going to try to recreate that [10:08] popey: ^ sturmflut2's sdl build has the same problems you have been seeing. I'm following up a hunch I have about the way SDL copes with dynamic libraries. Hopefully make some progress tonight [10:12] mcphail: super [10:12] mcphail: i had a play yesterday, and build sdl2 with the mir options enabled, and then dpkg -i'ed the debian package on my phone but it still didn't work. [10:14] popey: SDL_INIT_VIDEO is behaving unpredicatably. It isn't finding Mir. I'm going to make a debug build of both tonight and single step [10:16] k [10:16] SDL probes for the video libraries at runtime, so it can fail even if it is built with Mir support [10:17] The interesting thing is my previous build worked for a dummy app, and sturmflut2 got his build working once [10:18] knowing it is possible makes it more agonising [10:22] yeah [10:24] balloons: when you're about, I could do with some help with failing ap tests. [11:02] dholbach, so one thing that I did for the workshop was to create developer live ISOs with the SDK, a click chroot and cordova-cli & tools. Do you think we could put a link to it on the developer training pages? Or perhaps host it somewhere else? [11:02] dholbach, right now they live at http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/ISO/ === oSoMoN__ is now known as oSoMoN [11:15] dpm: how well did it run off USB? [11:16] popey, pretty well for my use case, but then I was only running cordova-cli commands. I did start Qt Creator and it was reasonably quick, but I didn't start creating QML apps [11:17] ok [11:23] Hi everybody. I have a question: is it OK to use "qmlproject" template for creating new project for 15.04? Or is it better to use "cmake" or "qmake"? [11:24] mivoligo, I think either bzoltan or zbenjamin might be able to help on that question ^ [11:24] dpm: thanks [11:26] dpm, sure, no objections [11:33] mivoligo: i would suggest to use qmake project type. It will be easier to extend it tlater with qml plugins and it is easier to add translations. Choose qmlproject only for prototyping or if you are 100% sure that you will be happy with QML+JS only without i18n [11:34] bzoltan: hmm... for 14.10 I was able to add i18n to qmlproject [11:35] bzoltan: but I'll go with qmake as you suggest [11:39] dbarth_, so any idea why it might be broken? [11:41] t1mp: can you re-approve this branch? I synced with staging due to a conflict https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/newJsonApiCheck/+merge/235830 [11:47] kalikiana: did you rerun qmlapicheck.sh as well? we have some new API in staging now [11:55] hey there [11:55] I get those warnings in wily/qtcreator when trying to run something on the device [11:55] "desktop_Exec (samecards): found unexpected Exec with architecture 'all': ./qtc_device_debughelper.py"" [11:55] is that expected/known? [11:55] the program doesn't start, not sure if that's the issue though [11:55] bzoltan, ^ do you know? [11:56] it also displays warnings about ""QtMultimedia/plugins.qmltypes:0:0: only one import expected" and about the debug profile not being for distribution [11:57] (but I'm not trying to distribute, just to local test) [11:57] t1mp: yes, the .api is updated also [11:57] seb128: I do not think it is an issue.. after all it is a warning. [11:58] bzoltan, any idea how to debug why the app is not showing on the device? [11:59] kalikiana: ok. happroved [11:59] seb128: you can check if you use a minimalistic qml app with the very same manifest and apparmor file [12:00] bzoltan, check what? the project I'm trying with is a small one which I've published in the click store and not touched since, it should be working [12:00] seb128: does it run on the desktop? [12:00] yes [12:01] seb128: what version teh device image is? wily or 14.09? [12:02] seb128: do you have the right framework? Anyway the QtC has few windows atthe bottom... the app output and the issues usually show the logs [12:02] 14.09 [12:02] yes, I've the right framework [12:02] well, I mentioned the things I saw in the logs [12:02] seb128: so the fw should be ubuntu-sk-14.10 [12:02] that's what I'm using [12:03] seb128: is the project public? I can test and see [12:04] bzoltan, it doesn't have to do with the project, I tried on several ones, I guess something wrong in wily/the machine/user config/device [12:04] those are cmake + translation ones [12:04] not sure how to debug though [12:09] seb128: if you would pastebin the content of the "Application output" and "Compile output" [12:11] bzoltan, shrug, my device went flat over lunch, doing that in a bit, need to charge some before [12:11] sorry for trying to help though ;-) [12:12] seb128: :) [12:12] seb128, do you know somebody who can approve these strings? https://translations.launchpad.net/help-app/trunk/+pots/help/fr/+translate?show=new_suggestions :) [12:13] rpadovani, do you know somebody who can approve these strings? https://translations.launchpad.net/help-app/trunk/+pots/help/it/+translate?show=new_suggestions :) [12:13] dpm, do you know somebody who can approve these strings? https://translations.launchpad.net/help-app/trunk/+pots/help/es/+translate?show=new_suggestions :) [12:14] dholbach, I have permissions, but I'm not officially part of the team, so I don't want to thread on anyone's toes. I think it'd be good to send an e-mail to ubuntu-translators, and I'm sure the Spanish team will approve them in a matter of minutes :) [12:16] dholbach, dpm can === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:16] seb128, ^ good luck with that :-P [12:17] dholbach, ^_^ [12:17] ok guys... it was worth a try :) [12:20] bzoltan, shrug, sorry I started to type something and changed my mind, it was meant as "thank you for trying to help though" ... ;-) [12:20] seb128: I parsed it :) no worries, ping me if you need help [12:20] bzoltan, sure, thanks === dbarth_ is now known as dbarth [12:35] dholbach: nope, not yet [12:37] dbarth, does it look to you like a problem with the app or with the html5 app launcher or something? [12:40] dpm, hum... looked like the training material links went to https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/community/blog/training/ - no wonder I couldn't find it [12:41] dholbach, oh, weird [12:42] I moved it to its proper place again [12:43] the page will need some changes though to use your images [12:43] hum hum [12:43] dholbach: for me oxide and the container are initialized with the right variables afaict [12:43] I'm not sure if I'll get around to that today [12:43] let me file a bug [12:44] dpm, https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-ubuntu-com/+bug/1457027 [12:44] Launchpad bug 1457027 in Ubuntu Developer Portal "Use http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/ISO/ on /community/training" [Undecided,New] [12:45] dholbach, it's not that urgent, I was just mentioning it as something that might be worth doing [12:46] yes, I agree [12:46] ok cool then [12:46] I'll mark it as high importance [12:47] great, thanks [12:53] dholbach: simple error in the code [12:53] dholbach: you try to load that file: [12:53] GET file:///opt/click.ubuntu.com/help.ubuntucoredev/0.2/www/index.fr-FR.html [12:54] which does not exist [12:54] index.fr.html exists though [12:56] huh...?! [12:57] dpm, ^ [12:59] dbarth, thanks for your help [13:12] dholbach, drop a mail to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClaudioArseni [13:33] balloons: do we have any autopilot experts? [13:53] popey, experts for? [13:53] stupid QML question, but in https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/qml/tutorials/building-your-first-qml-app/, I see that the Column in popover is using height: .height instead of bottom: parent.bottom, do you know why? Does the columns needs an explicit width but not an explicity width? [13:53] the relevant snippet is at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11245271/ [13:55] balloons: bug 1457051 [13:55] bug 1457051 in Ubuntu Calendar App "test_weekview.TestWeekView.test_day_to_week fails on trunk" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1457051 [13:56] balloons: running calendar AP tests from trunk, I get about 9 failures every time. So I can't upload to the store as a result. [13:58] popey, is this on your device or ? [13:59] ahh indeed i see it is. [14:00] balloons: yes, my nexus 7 [14:00] been battling these all morning [14:00] about ready to push a merge that rips out all autopilot tests for all the good they are [14:01] running other tests which fail sometimes, pass sometimes. [14:02] popey, the standard for these tests is the jenkins run during build. It doesn't say much about it working on the device. I'm happy to have the conversation again in our call if you wish [14:03] they sometimes fail during build [14:03] biab [14:03] thats what I'm tryin to confirm [14:03] but _different_ tests fail _differently_ so I have zero confidence anywhere [14:04] testtools.matchers._impl.MismatchError: Color(56, 180, 74, 255) == Color(56, 180, 74, 255) [14:04] for example [14:15] bzoltan, hum, so after recharging the phone and reboot things work, dunno what was wrong but thanks anyway for replying ;-) [14:15] those warnings are still displayed so indeed they were not the issue [14:15] seb128: black magic it is :) [14:27] popey, you can't hit a non-existent target. I would push the app [14:27] :) [14:39] An I right in thinking if I run "apt-get install" in a click chroot terminal opened by the "run" command, everything will go back to virgin state when I log out? [14:47] (it took over 2 hours to set up the chroot last night due to my dreadful internet connection and I don't want to have to set up a fresh chroot if I can avoid it) [14:49] hmm [14:49] surely it keeps everything? [14:50] zbenjamin: will know more :) [14:50] popey: I've read different things in different blogs. The guide in the Ubuntu SDK pages suggests if you use the "run" invocation everything will go away (which is what I want) [14:51] ahh [14:52] but I read another blog which hinted that wasn't the case [14:52] balloons, can you reply to vthompson's question on https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/grooveshark-remove/+merge/259632? [14:57] dholbach, sure [14:58] thanks balloons! === oSoMoN__ is now known as oSoMoN [15:18] mcphail: well afaik it _should_ go back if its in run. At least in the parts that are covered by the overlayfs. So changes in /home and /tmp are persistent [15:19] zbenjamin: brilliant. That's what I hoped! [15:19] mcphail: but you can try yourself [15:20] mcphail: log into run, then touch a file in , lets say /etc or /usr, logout. In the next session it should be gone [15:20] zbenjamin: don't worry - I won't hold it against you if it doesn't work :) Just needed a bit of reassurance. Spent more time wrestling with chroots than being productive last night [15:21] mcphail: err, yeah i know the chroots are a pain. [15:22] zbenjamin: I'm beginning to get the hang of things (maybe even like them). They're just a bit opaque. All the click stuff is a bit opaque wrt documentation, help files, bash completion etc [15:25] mcphail: yep i know === salem_ is now known as _salem [16:02] mcphail: the click chroots are not like pbuilder builders... if you install there packages then they will stay there === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [16:05] zbenjamin: I am not sure if I understand you .. if you log in to the click chroot with maint and apt-get install then the package will be installed for real === _salem is now known as salem_ [16:15] bzoltan: no if you log in with click chroot RUN they won't [16:15] bzoltan: the overlayfs will revert all changes to the rootfs [16:18] zbenjamin: ehh.. of course.. with run [16:18] * bzoltan should EOD === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [17:25] zsombi: updated https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/noCopyPass/+merge/259497 [17:26] kalikiana: is the common test only tests 1.2, right? [17:27] kalikiana: I wonder wether should we dupe tat as well... [17:27] zsombi: yep. I added the 13 suffixed for 1.3 [17:27] oh yes [17:27] sorry [17:28] kalikiana: naming convention for the test... [17:28] kalikiana: ok, fine, happroving [17:28] zsombi: as an example we have tst_page13.qml as well [17:29] so that's what I went with [17:29] yep, fine [17:29] cool [17:29] thanks [17:29] happroved === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [17:50] hey guys, do you know of a high end tablet that I can install ubuntu desktop on and use for development? [17:50] learner: asus t300chi [17:50] I need something with a high res (at least 1080p if not more) and a good graphics that can support compiz [17:52] Hey i try to get into app developement (wanna help with the calendar app), i got the sources from the bazaar repo but i can't find a project file for the sdk [17:52] Is this deployed somewhere else or do i need to create my own project? [17:53] kalikiana, that seems interesting [17:57] Masternoob: have you tried opening the CMakeLists.txt file in the top level folder with QtCreator? [17:57] that works...thank you :) [17:58] what about teclast x10HD [18:01] Masternoob: your welcome :) [18:42] When i try to build the calendar app i get "INTLTOOL_MERGE-NOTFOUND: not found", does anyone know how to fix this? [18:46] Masternoob: Do you have intltool installed in your chroot? (my logs start from your question above and thereby I might have missed something) [18:51] i guess not, doesn't this happen automatically? How do i install it? [18:53] Masternoob: Tools->Options->Ubuntu and then click on the maintain button of a kit you're using [18:53] Masternoob: and then install by "apt-get install intltool" [18:54] Masternoob: Background info on this, the chroot you're using to build your click package is missing the intltool which is necessary to generate the .pot files (translations) and is thereby complaining about it. Installing it in the chroot should fix it. [18:57] Hmm, the package was missing but i still get the same error [19:04] hmm strange [19:05] Masternoob: are you trying to build and run this on your laptop or on the phone/emulator? [19:05] on my pc [19:06] Masternoob: try installing the package on your pc then..the chroots are needed only when you are trying to build against a different arch [19:06] which doesn't seem to be in this case [19:06] it is installed on my pc [19:08] not sure then what could be causing that error [19:09] hmmm i will try to investivate this further tomorrow...need to go now === aaron is now known as ahoneybuni === ahoneybuni is now known as ahoneybun [19:29] Hi all, I have never developped anything but i am looking for some help would like to port an app from meego to UT https://gitorious.org/meego-ux/meego-app-satk/source/6296ebb569697c5a80ee6b518ccf8c331d7cb840:doc/sim_toolkit_design_draft.txt#L7 [19:30] Would like to port Sim toolkit to UT [19:30] because i get this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+bug/1323837 [19:30] Launchpad bug 1323837 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Sim toolkit is not available on UT" [Wishlist,Triaged] [19:40] nik90: ping [19:40] mivoligo: pong [19:41] nik90: I don't know if you noticed but there's bug in Timer when you set it for few hours and it ends after midnight [19:42] nik90: the Alarm is set in 6 days [19:42] and some hours [19:42] mivoligo: hmm...if you give me more details to reproduce it, I can test it out. I usually set timers for less than an hours and so haven't hit the bug. [19:43] nik90: set it now for 10 hours for example [19:43] * nik90 tries [19:44] mivoligo: yup ... it set it for 27th May 07:43 [19:44] instead of 21st May 07:43 [19:44] nik90: yes, and I have no idea why that is [19:45] mivoligo: where in the code do you set the alarm date? let me take a look at it [19:46] nik90: I'm passing end timer date to alarm.date and in console.log it is fine http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mpredotka/timer/trunk/view/head:/Main.qml#L284 [19:46] nik90: but somehow Alarm gets it wrong [19:48] mivoligo: hmm so console output correctly shows 10 hrs later date..but alarm.date gets it wrong? strange [19:48] nik90: yep, check in your log [19:50] hmm yes console shows the correct time [19:50] nik90: is the alarm.date taking only hours and minutes from Date into consideration or something? [19:51] mivoligo: no it should take the whole date object into consideration..it is really strange that it is a full 7 days later.. [19:51] s/should/does [19:52] nik90: BTW: is Date in your log GMT? [19:52] or your local? [19:53] mivoligo: well it reads Thu May 21 07:43 GMT +0200 [19:53] which is local [19:53] ok [19:54] nik90: I'm going AFK for some time, please let me know if you have any ideas what might be the problem, will be back later :) === gcollura_ is now known as gcollura [19:55] mivoligo: sure. I will also try to check with zsombi tomorrow since this is a rather interesting problem that I would like to know the answer to as well ;) === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun [20:39] nik90: mivoligo: is it the same problem as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1442518 ? [20:39] Launchpad bug 1442518 in Ubuntu Clock App "Enabling alarm after midnight schedules it for the next day" [High,Confirmed] [20:42] mcphail: no that's a different bug local to the clock app === aaron is now known as Guest85752 === Guest85752 is now known as ahoneybun [20:58] mzanetti, ping === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun [21:09] nik90: thanks === salem_ is now known as _salem [21:10] sturmflut2: making very little progress with the sdl thing. Still getting segfaults in SDL_INIT_VIDEO with my build of sdl. Is your segfault similar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11249985/ ? [21:14] nik90: I've added "console.log(alarm.date)" before and after "alarm.save()". Output after "alarm.save()" shows the wrong date. So I guess there's something wrong with the save function in the Alarm code [21:15] mivoligo: true..I am checking the docs to see why it might do that [21:16] nik90: have a link to alarm code somewhere? [21:17] mivoligo: clock's? [21:17] mivoligo: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/utopic-3.0/view/head:/app/alarm/EditAlarmPage.qml#L62 [21:17] nik90: is it part of the clock? [21:18] sry I meant clock app's? that's the link to the code [21:18] I mean the Alarm component [21:18] mivoligo: oh no the Alarm component is part of the SDK. I was checking the API docs [21:18] ah, ok [21:20] mivoligo: as long as the alarm.date is set to a time in the future, it should work as expected according to the docs. Considering that the alarm.date printed in the console is as expected, this has to be a bug in the sdk. [21:21] mivoligo: otherwise it should spit out alarm error codes which doesn't happen either [21:22] mivoligo: curious, but when did this bug start? [21:22] nik90: it was there all the time [21:23] nik90: but I've noticed it maybe 3 days ago as one don't set so long timers very often :) [21:24] :) [21:26] nik90: do you know if I can somehow change the icon for the alarm in the dropdown list? [21:26] mivoligo: definitely not in RTM..but I hear this is something that vivid will support in order to accomodate 3rd party apps and also reminders app etc. [21:27] nik90: great [21:27] mivoligo: Although since you are using the Alarms API it might be hardcoded in the SDK. [21:27] mivoligo: whereas if you used the QtOrganizer API you can set what you want [21:28] nik90: true, but I've no idea how to use it :) [21:28] mivoligo: if you present a compelling use-case in a bug report to the SDK project, that can be changed through a API in the Alarms API. But that said the earliest that might happen is in Ubuntu.Components 1.3 or 2.0 [21:28] nik90: Alarms is easy [21:33] nik90: oh, one more thing if you have time [21:33] yeah shoot [21:33] mivoligo: I am just hacking on fahrplan atm [21:34] nik90: as my app is not working in 15.04 properly, could you pull the code, change imports and check if it will work then? [21:35] mivoligo: change imports to UC 1.2 ? [21:35] nik90: yes [21:35] mivoligo: sure [21:36] nik90: great :) [21:37] nik90: I wonder if that is the reason of Alarms not working in 15.04 [21:38] mivoligo: well clock app did not migrate to UC 1.2 yet and alarms still work on vivid for it. [21:38] from what I followed, UC 1.2 Alarm changes were made in the background, but mostly performance fixes..either way rather than speculate I will test it out and let you know [21:39] nik90: thanks [21:39] nik90: I have to finish. Have a good night o/ [21:39] mivoligo: nite o/ [22:13] mcphail: any luck this evening? :) [22:15] popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11249985/ - No :( [22:16] popey: I see there is a GBA emulator in the store built with SDL1.2. No idea why that should work. Experimenting with it just now [22:18] :( [22:18] time for a mir bug report perhaps with a step-by-step process [22:18] maybe also tak libsdl2 [22:19] bschaefer: (in #ubuntu-touch, but not here) may be worth pinging - he maintains the mir/sdl support [22:21] popey: i'm almost tempted to switch to the emscripten javascript build of SDL in a webapp :) [22:21] hah, i tried that too [22:22] with scummvm [22:22] * popey trundles off to bedlington [22:24] Gah - the GBA emulator works as well! How does that happen? === _salem is now known as salem_ [22:33] jdstrand, around? [22:34] davidcalle: for a moment [22:35] jdstrand, ok, quick question : can two apps bundled in the same click, share data (eg. a db file)? [22:36] davidcalle: yes [22:37] davidcalle: see https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/platform/guides/app-confinement/ (Runtime environment) [22:39] jdstrand, so I understand it's different for the case of a scope + an app (if I read correctly https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/+bug/1384286) [22:39] Launchpad bug 1384286 in click-reviewers-tools (Ubuntu Vivid) "add directory allowing scopes and apps to share data" [High,In progress] [22:39] davidcalle: that is correct [22:40] davidcalle: that is because scopes run in the background potentially without the users knowledge [22:40] jdstrand, do scope devs have anything specific to do to enable that (like a special policy group?) [22:41] davidcalle: scopes can read from the app directory in @{HOME}/.local/share/@{APP_PKGNAME}/ [22:41] davidcalle: they just can't write to it === salem_ is now known as _salem [22:42] jdstrand, and the app can't read @{HOME}/.local/share/unity-scopes/leaf-net/@{APP_PKGNAME}/* [22:43] that is correct [22:45] jdstrand, thanks! There is a scopes design guide coming soon, and I wanted to have a better understanding of that. [22:48] np