[05:44] <Anoniem4l> good morning kerato
[05:45] <kerato> hi
[05:45] <Anoniem4l> ti leei?
[05:46] <kerato> edw piksimo
[05:46] <kerato> akoma den hr8a me phran apo ta moutra
[05:46] <Anoniem4l> :(
[05:46] <Anoniem4l> edw arxhse na vrexei (kavala)
[06:20] <Anoniem4l> o/ kilon
[06:20] <kilon> aloha
[06:20] <kilon> pos pame ?
[06:20] <Anoniem4l> sto piksimo kai sti zesth
[06:21] <kilon> zesti ?
[06:21] <Anoniem4l> yeah
[06:21] <Anoniem4l> poly zesth
[06:21] <kilon> poy eisai ?
[06:21] <Anoniem4l> kavala
[06:21] <kilon> !!!!!
[06:21] <Anoniem4l> :p
[06:21] <kilon> ego eimai athina kai den zestenomai
[06:21] <Anoniem4l> kala eisai...
[07:43] <NikTh> Καλώς τα παιδόπουλα.
[08:12] <Anoniem4l> hello salih-emin / salih_
[08:20] <salih_> hello
[08:20] <Anoniem4l> wb talos-mintgr
[08:22] <talos-mintgr> hello
[08:30] <assurbanipal> kalhmera
[08:30] <Anoniem4l> kalhmeres
[08:30] <assurbanipal> einai kaneis me xfce? ta para8uria giati dinoun mono 1 pixel margin gia na kanei grab to mouse gia resize? paizei kapou kana setting?
[08:32] <kerato> na pareis megalyterh o8onh re file
[08:37] <salih-emin> κλασικός kerato όπως πάντα.
[08:37] <salih-emin> :)
[08:37] <salih-emin> assurbanipal, μακάρι να ήξερα αλλα έχω την εντίπωση οτι δεν έχει τέοι setting
[08:38] <assurbanipal> kerato: xa,kalo. sovara twra.. exei idea kaneis apo ta themes?mporw apo ekei na to peira3w isws?
[08:38] <kerato> an evazes allo theme
[08:38] <salih-emin> assurbanipal, δεν νομίζω το theme
[08:38] <assurbanipal> dokimasa ta hdh egatesthmena alla tpt
[08:38] <kerato> sto openbox 8ymamai exei ena tetoio lalaki
[08:38] <kerato> alla sto xfce nomizw oxi
[08:39] <assurbanipal> kerato: xubuntu exw perasei
[08:39] <salih-emin> ναι και εγω απο όσο κοίταξα
[08:39] <salih-emin> δεν βρίσκω κάτι
[08:39] <assurbanipal> de nomizw pws trexei openbox apo katw
[08:39] <assurbanipal> se openbox px mporeis na ta ftia3eis monos s apo ta configs twn themes auta (apo oti 8umamai). eixa kapote openbox
[10:05] <assurbanipal> fainetai einai xfwm theme issue to 1 pixel margin grab twn para8urwn sto xfce http://superuser.com/questions/436541/how-do-you-increase-the-resize-border-thickness-in-xubuntu-12-04
[10:17] <salih-emin> assurbanipal, ενδιαφέρον
[11:14] <harispc> hey guys
[11:32] <harispc> hi geothom230
[11:33] <geothom230> geia sou harispc
[11:33] <geothom230> ti paizei vouva to kanali
[11:34] <harispc> lol
[11:34] <geothom230> apo oti vlepw statistika to ubuntu-gr kanali paei gia kleisw enw ama deis to antoistixo xeno exei polli prama giati einai international fasi
[11:35] <harispc>  to xero to ellhniko chanell ei nai dead
[11:35] <Anoniem4l> yep
[11:36] <harispc> Anoniem4l proth fora grafeis epeita apoa rketo kairo
[11:37] <Anoniem4l> no
[11:37] <Anoniem4l> egrapsa kai prin apla den isoun edw
[11:37] <Anoniem4l> :p
[11:37] <geothom230> enas grafei ton allon kalo 8-)
[11:38] <geothom230> anoniem4l:mipos eixes kamia askisi ergastiriou me thema openssl
[11:38] <Anoniem4l> geothom230: ahahahah autoi den kseroun na kanoun hash se md5
[11:38] <Anoniem4l> gia pes ti thes?
[11:40] <geothom230> thelw na kanw pistopoiitika cer root ca kai issuing ca kai meta na parw xronosfragida apo empisti pigi kai na ypograpso ilektronika ena pdf.theloi tis entoles sto openssl
[11:40] <geothom230> ayta ta oliga
[11:41] <geothom230> einai apo ton konstantino ranto
[11:41] <Anoniem4l> lol wtf
[11:41] <Anoniem4l> pou ton kses autona?
[11:42] <geothom230> ama eisai gatoni ola ta vriskeis
[11:42] <geothom230> :-D
[11:42] <Anoniem4l> lel googlares kathigites mou?
[11:43] <geothom230> kai apo to mit tous xeroun olous tous daskalous tou kosmou
[11:43] <geothom230> ti soi linuxas eimai eeee
[11:44] <Anoniem4l> o rantos prepei na einai sineta prepon
[11:44] <Anoniem4l> an kai den exw kanei polla mathimata me auton
[11:44] <Anoniem4l> fenete wraios tupos padws
[11:44] <Anoniem4l> aptous ligous sto tei
[11:46] <geothom230> oxi einai allanakos sta diktya kai to ektymao ayto se anthropous pou einai prota anthropoi kai meta epistimones
[11:46] <Anoniem4l> geothom230: tha se voithisw se ligo afou faw
[11:46] <Anoniem4l> :X
[11:46] <Anoniem4l> brb
[11:46] <geothom230> ok
[11:50] <harispc> lol
[11:54] <geothom230> ti leei allo harispc
[11:54] <geothom230> poios ithele na stisei home server
[11:55] <harispc> ti home server helete?
[11:56] <simosx> exei kaneis xchat?
[11:56] <harispc> mpa
[11:57] <simosx> o salih egrapse xtes gia home server me developer board.
[12:00] <harispc> den to eida
[12:01] <geothom230> na me pali ekane enimerosi o kernel
[12:02] <Anoniem4l> wb sec teliwnw to fai
[12:02] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2616-1: Linux kernel vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2616-1/> || USN-2615-1: Linux kernel (Utopic HWE) vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2615-1/> || USN-2614-1: Linux kernel vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2614-1/> || USN-2613-1: Linux kernel (Trusty HWE) vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2613-1/> || USN-2612-1: Linux kernel (OMAP4) vulnerabilities <http://www
[12:10] <geothom230> 8-)
[12:11] <harispc> lol
[12:11] <Anoniem4l> loipon geothom230
[12:11] <Anoniem4l> ti thes na kaneis sign akribws? pdf arxeio?
[12:12] <geothom230> nai miso na sou steilo kati gia na katalaveis
[12:12] <Anoniem4l> episis giati openssl kai oxi gpg?
[12:12] <geothom230> http://iiwm.teikav.edu.gr/ii/attachments/article/1301/%CE%95%CE%A1%CE%93%CE%91%CE%A3%CE%99%CE%91%20%CE%9C%CE%91%CE%98%CE%97%CE%9C%CE%91%CE%A4%CE%9F%CE%A3%20%CE%91%CE%A3%CE%A6%CE%91%CE%9B%CE%95%CE%99%CE%91.pdf
[12:13] <geothom230> giati i askisi ergastiriou ayto thelei to pires to pdf tis askisis
[12:15] <geothom230> to katevases to pdf?
[12:16] <Anoniem4l> to diavazw twra
[12:23] <Anoniem4l> pfff egw me gpg kserw na douleuw, w8
[12:24] <geothom230> se diskolepse?
[12:24] <geothom230> kalo to gpg mporw na to kanw kai egw kai se openssl
[12:25] <talos-mintgr> http://askubuntu.com/questions/147379/how-do-i-digitally-sign-a-pdf
[12:25] <geothom230> alla ayto me ta pistopoiitika einai kali askisi
[12:26] <geothom230> talos-mintgr:file mou linouxa ayto to xerw mporeis na mou peis pos tha kanw ta pem der diladi .cer katalixi
[12:27] <geothom230> kai pos perneis tin xronosfragida gia na to valeis sto progrmma ayto diladi pou mou esteiles to link
[12:27] <simosx> to openssl leitoyrgei me "pistopoiitika X.509". To gpg  me "kleidia PGP".
[12:28] <Anoniem4l> ^
[12:28] <simosx> xronosfragida=timestamp, google is your friend.
[12:28] <simosx> PEM, DER, TXT, metatrepontai me entoles, kai pali me to google vriskeis polles selides poy ta ejigoun.
[12:29] <Anoniem4l> If you created everything yourself, or if the certificate authority
[12:29] <Anoniem4l> was kind enough, your certificate is a raw DER thing in PEM format.
[12:29] <Anoniem4l> https://www.openssl.org/docs/HOWTO/certificates.txt
[12:29] <Anoniem4l> --> to PEM format den einai DER?
[12:32] <Anoniem4l> oxi den einai
[12:32] <Anoniem4l> openssl x509 -inform PEM -in cacert.pem -outform DER -out certificate.cer
[12:32] <Anoniem4l> malista
[12:32] <Anoniem4l> w8 na sou kanw ola ta cmd
[12:32] <geothom230> oxi ta pem pistopiitika einai gia apache server koinos gia linux enw ta der(*.cer)einai gia windows server ktl
[12:33] <geothom230> egw epeidi den exw windows kai douleuo ubuntu ta kanw apo to ubuntu
[12:34] <geothom230> aytin tin entoli pou edwses tin evala alla den ekane tipota
[12:34] <Anoniem4l> den ekane tipota dioti metatrepei .pem se .cer
[12:34] <Anoniem4l> source: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/131334/obtain-cer-file-from-pem-file
[12:34] <simosx> einai kalo na matheis tin entoli pou typwnei to pistopoiitiko se morfi anagnwsimi apo ton anthopo (-text). wste na jereis ti exei mesa to arxeio.
[12:35] <geothom230> lew mia ikasia mipos prepei na to kanw se windows environment gia na to parei
[12:35] <geothom230> anoniem4l:to ekana kai ayto kai tipota
[12:36] <Anoniem4l> o.O to answer einai marked san swsto
[12:36] <Anoniem4l> w8
[12:36] <geothom230> ti einai to w8
[12:36] <geothom230> windows8 exeis
[12:38] <simosx> to DER einai binary, to PEM einai text (encoded). den exei diafora to ena apo to allo. oli i douleia ginetai apo Ubuntu (oxi Mint).
[12:40] <geothom230> simosx:i askisi leei ayto sou stelnw to link na deis http://iiwm.teikav.edu.gr/ii/attachments/article/1301/%CE%95%CE%A1%CE%93%CE%91%CE%A3%CE%99%CE%91%20%CE%9C%CE%91%CE%98%CE%97%CE%9C%CE%91%CE%A4%CE%9F%CE%A3%20%CE%91%CE%A3%CE%A6%CE%91%CE%9B%CE%95%CE%99%CE%91.pdf
[12:46] <geothom230> simosx:to diavases?
[12:47] <geothom230> ayta ta oliga thelei
[12:49] <Anoniem4l> loipon
[12:50] <Anoniem4l> 1sec
[12:51] <simosx> einai vata kai me tin ergasia ma8aineis pragmata. kane tin prospatheia.
[12:54] <Anoniem4l> h askhsh se 1 grammh:
[12:54] <Anoniem4l> openssl genrsa -out ca.key 2048 && openssl req -new -x509 -days 7300 -key ca.key -out ca.crt && touch ca.pem && cat ca.crt >> ca.pem && cat ca.key >> ca.pem && openssl x509 -inform PEM -in ca.pem -outform DER -out ca.cer && openssl genrsa -out ia.key 2048 && openssl req -new -key ia.key -out ia.csr && openssl x509 -req -days 1835 -in ia.csr -CA ca.crt -CAkey ca.key -set_serial 01 -out ia.crt && openssl pkcs12 -export -out ia.p12 -inkey
[12:54] <Anoniem4l> ia.key -in ia.crt -CAfile ca.crt
[12:54] <Anoniem4l> http://pastebin.com/QThhqMcK
[12:54] <Anoniem4l> apotelesma:
[12:54] <Anoniem4l> niemal@tromos:/tmp/cert$ ls
[12:54] <Anoniem4l> ca.cer  ca.crt  ca.key  ca.pem  ia.crt  ia.csr  ia.key  ia.p12
[12:54] <Anoniem4l> exeis ta panta
[12:54] <Anoniem4l> me to ia.p12 upografeis ena pdf meta
[12:55] <Anoniem4l> geothom230 ^^^
[12:55] <geothom230> nai paraklw akouw
[12:55] <Anoniem4l> h lush sou :p
[12:55] <geothom230> ola ayta kai me der pou to thelei
[12:55] <Anoniem4l> yeap
[12:56] <Anoniem4l> to apotelesma einai auto: http://i.imgur.com/6I0YbIo.png
[12:56] <Anoniem4l> douleuei 100% se mena
[12:57] <geothom230> nai alla einai se pem kai oxi se *.cer
[12:57] <geothom230> edw ti ginetai
[12:57] <Anoniem4l> einai kai se cer
[12:57] <Anoniem4l> :D
[12:57] <Anoniem4l> einai kai sta duo ksanadesto
[12:57] <Anoniem4l> :p
[12:57] <geothom230> misw
[12:57] <Anoniem4l> operating system pou douleuei 100%:
[12:57] <Anoniem4l> Linux tromos 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:58] <geothom230> nai to ca.cer
[12:58] <Anoniem4l> epeidh exei problhma an to kanw me ti mia .cer to kanw prwta pem kai meta to metatrepw
[12:58] <Anoniem4l> meso logismikou openssl
[12:59] <geothom230> apo windows i apo linux mixanima?
[12:59] <Anoniem4l> linux profanos
[12:59] <Anoniem4l> Debian
[12:59] <Anoniem4l> kai douleuei se windows meta me to PKCS12 tupou arxeio
[12:59] <geothom230> gamaei to debian
[12:59] <Anoniem4l> nai to agaphmeno mou einai
[12:59] <geothom230> tora xronosfragida kai xronosimansi pos tha ta vrw ayta
[13:00] <Anoniem4l> sec
[13:07] <Anoniem4l> geothom230: openssl ts -query -data "ia.p12" -cert -sha256 -no_nonce -out request.tsq
[13:07] <geothom230> einai i xronosfragida ?
[13:07] <Anoniem4l> nai se morfh hash SHA-2, 256 bit
[13:08] <Anoniem4l> alla den eimai sigouros pio arxeio vazeis
[13:08] <Anoniem4l> as poume egw twra evala to issue authority PKCS12
[13:08] <Anoniem4l> logika vazeis to pdf
[13:08] <geothom230> kai ipegrapses to pdf
[13:08] <Anoniem4l> sto telos upgrafeis to pdf
[13:08] <Anoniem4l> me kapio logismiko
[13:09] <geothom230> jsignpdf exw gia na ypograpso to pdf
[13:10] <Anoniem4l> sec na dw ta docs
[13:14] <geothom230> anoniem4l: ena dwraki gia na kaneis pistopoiitika sto debian http://gnomint.sourceforge.net
[13:21] <Anoniem4l> geothom230: java -jar JSignPdf.jar -kst PKCS12 -ksf my_certificate.pfx -ksp myPrivateKeystorePassword -ka cert23 -e -opwd xxx123 -upwd 123xxx -pr DISALLOW_PRINTING mydocument.pdf
[13:22] <geothom230> aa to etrexes apo termatiko kai oxi apo to java runtime kali fasi
[13:22] <Anoniem4l> e nai etsi einai ta linux :)
[13:22] <Anoniem4l> giafto maresoun epeidh exoun tromero CLI (command line interface)
[13:22] <geothom230> kai tora to pdf exei xronosfragida kai ta loipa
[13:23] <geothom230> nai se auto symfono
[13:23] <geothom230> diladi me ayto teleionei i askisi
[13:23] <Anoniem4l> vasika to CLI einai tou GNU kai oxi to linux san llinux
[13:24] <Anoniem4l> teliwnei nai, ksexasa to -tsct parameter pou einai gia to timestamp
[13:24] <geothom230> kai egw douleuo termatiko poli me entoles diktyou pio poli
[13:24] <geothom230> diladi
[13:26] <Anoniem4l> vasika -tscf
[13:26] <Anoniem4l>  -tscf,--tsa-cert-file <file>            path to keystore file, which contains
[13:26] <Anoniem4l>                                          private key used to authentication
[13:26] <Anoniem4l>                                          against TSA server, when CERTIFICATE
[13:26] <Anoniem4l>                                          authentication method is used
[13:27] <geothom230> diladi den einai teleiwmeni
[13:27] <Anoniem4l> an kai pali ta docs den to dieukrinizoun
[13:27] <Anoniem4l> http://jsignpdf.sourceforge.net/uploads/JSignPdf.pdf
[13:27] <geothom230> apo to libreoffice pou exo exei kati gia digital signatures
[13:27] <Anoniem4l> selida 25+
[13:28] <geothom230> miso
[13:28] <Anoniem4l> selida 27+ anaferei TSA (timestamp authentication) pou auto mas endiaferei
[13:29] <Anoniem4l> alla den leei tipota peri importation tis stampas pou vgalame pio prin meso openssl
[13:29] <Anoniem4l> opote logika tha vgazei ti stampa mono tou kai den xriazete parameter pou na dieukrinizei kati peri stampas xronou
[13:29] <Anoniem4l> ara teliwsame tin askhsh :p
[13:30] <geothom230> tha to trexw olo ayto to martsoulionei kai vlepoume
[13:30] <Anoniem4l>  -ts,--tsa-server-url <URL>              address of timestamping server (TSA).
[13:30] <Anoniem4l>                                          If you use this argument, the timestamp
[13:30] <Anoniem4l>                                          will be included to signature. (For
[13:30] <Anoniem4l>                                          testing purposes you can try following
[13:30] <Anoniem4l>                                          URL
[13:30] <Anoniem4l>                                          http://dse200.ncipher.com/TSS/HttpTspSe
[13:30] <Anoniem4l>                                          rver)
[13:31] <geothom230> alla ama trexeis se java run time gui to programma jsignpdf sou leei to arxeio pou exei to timestamp kai to arxeio pdf pou theleis na ypograpseis digital
[13:31] <Anoniem4l> opote einai to -tscf
[13:31] <Anoniem4l> den uparxei kati allo
[13:31] <Anoniem4l> -tscf,--tsa-cert-file <file>
[13:32] <geothom230> thelei to url tou  mallon des kati pou vrika san paradeigma http://www.yap.gov.gr/index.php/aped/timestamping-service.html
[13:32] <geothom230> pos pernei to timestamp
[13:32] <Anoniem4l> yeap
[13:32] <Anoniem4l> to -ts, --tsa-server-url pou anefera ligo pio panw
[13:33] <Anoniem4l> to JSignPdf dinei san timestamp server to http://dse200.ncipher.com/TSS/HttpTspServer
[13:33] <Anoniem4l> (sta documentation, selida 27)
[13:33] <geothom230> nai
[13:33] <Anoniem4l> pio prin meso openssl vgalame timestamp monoi mas
[13:34] <Anoniem4l> mporoume eite na valoume to timestamp to diko mas me to -tscf h na kanoume request gia timestamp meso tou -ts sto .gov.gr h to ncipher.com/../..
[13:34] <Anoniem4l> kalo programa to JSignPdf alla einai java distixos
[13:35] <Anoniem4l> den maresei katholou h java :(
[13:35] <geothom230> diladi to timestamp gia na katalavw daskale mporoume na to kanoume apo to openssl monoi mas
[13:35] <Anoniem4l> nai
[13:35] <Anoniem4l> stin ousia to timestamp server kanei kati analogo
[13:35] <geothom230> nai xronotrexei to pistopoiitiko
[13:35] <Anoniem4l> https://www.digistamp.com/technical/software-alternatives/using-openssl-to-request-timestamps/
[13:36] <geothom230> swstos o lykos
[13:36] <Anoniem4l> :D
[13:37] <geothom230> lyke lyke gamises aououou...
[13:37] <Anoniem4l> ahahahah
[13:37] <Anoniem4l> to google doulepse gia mena :p
[13:38] <geothom230> exei ta panta re esi alla opos prin ama doulepseis swsta to cli tote eisai o megas arxitekton
[13:38] <Anoniem4l> nai fusika
[13:39] <geothom230> aytin askisi kratatin mporei na sou xreiastei stin sxoli einai sto mathima ΠΡΟΣΤΑΣΙΑ ΚΑΙ ΑΣΦΑΛΕΙΑ ΣΥΣΤΗΜΑΤΩΝ ΥΠΟΛΟΓΙΣΤΩΝ
[13:39] <geothom230> synithos tetoia bazei
[13:39] <Anoniem4l> nai dustixws den to xw parei to mathima :p
[13:39] <geothom230> pantos pires mia idea to ti vazei
[13:40] <geothom230> kai to ekanes epityxos
[13:40] <geothom230> tsakale
[13:40] <Anoniem4l> nai an kai eimai adithetos sto concept tou mathimatos
[13:40] <Anoniem4l> me tetio titlou mathimatos tha borouse na kanei poly pio endiaferon pragmata
[13:40] <Anoniem4l> opos einai h analysh siberiforas malware, forensics, firewalls, ktl
[13:40] <geothom230> kai omos ama deis i mama nsa ayta ta pistopoiitika exei valei sto mati kai xeri na ta dialysei einai kalo ayto
[13:40] <Anoniem4l> titlo*
[13:41] <Anoniem4l> em afou h NSA exei kanei to SHA-2
[13:41] <Anoniem4l> episis to SHA-2 se sxesh me allous analogous algorithmous exei pio kalh taxitita
[13:41] <Anoniem4l> se kanei na anarotiese giati axaxaxxaxaaxxa
[13:41] <geothom230> koitaxe ama thes penetration testing piramatisou me metsploit,kali,kai etc
[13:41] <Anoniem4l> kserw na kanw manual pentesting :p den xriazomte tetiou eidous logismika :)
[13:41] <geothom230> kai to dhs code me 4096key
[13:41] <Anoniem4l> xriazome*
[13:42] <Anoniem4l> episis kserw kalh python, opote an thelw kati to grafw egw
[13:42] <geothom230> egw to mathaino to nypio
[13:42] <geothom230> egw tora mathaino to nypio python
[13:42] <geothom230> einai dyskolo na matheis python?
[13:43] <Anoniem4l> no, h python einai h kaluterh glwssa gia na matheis prwth kata ti gnwmh mou
[13:43] <Anoniem4l> epeidh einai eukola adilipti logo tou syntax
[13:43] <Anoniem4l> einai pio language-oriented, otan lew language enow human language
[13:43] <Anoniem4l> san logikh
[13:43] <Anoniem4l> sec
[13:43] <geothom230> se vlepo se kamia defcon i blackhat las vegas this summer www.defcon.org and www.blackhat.com
[13:44] <Anoniem4l> ahahahaha
[13:44] <Anoniem4l> kapia stigmh sti zwh mou tha ithela na paw sto defcon
[13:45] <Anoniem4l> alla daksi den eimai toso kalos programatisths
[13:45] <geothom230> egw piga sto  blackat 20 2012 me 1200$ eida wraia pragmata
[13:45] <Anoniem4l> ooooo
[13:45] <Anoniem4l> poly kalo kai to blackhat, exw dei diafora videakia
[13:45] <Anoniem4l> des ligo python: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29481088/how-can-i-tell-if-a-string-repeats-itself-in-python?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=so-facebook
[13:46] <geothom230> file mou debianista na xereis oti synexeia mathainoume san akarsika diktya eimaste
[13:46] <Anoniem4l> sigoura
[13:47] <geothom230> pantos na xereis oti kaneis tha to petyxeis me opoiodipote skopo kai tropo
[13:48] <geothom230> arkei prota na eisai anthropos kai meta eppagelamtias se opoiodipote epaggelma
[13:48] <Anoniem4l> makari... twra ftiaxnw ena mikro CMS/site me ena filo gia ena mathima san ergasia pou thelw na to poulhsw mpas kai vgalw tipota
[13:49] <Anoniem4l> alla exw ena problhma, den kserw me ti tomea na asxolithw
[13:49] <geothom230> stin psarokostaino xwris na thelw na se pikranw einai dyskola na vreis kapoion na to pouliseis alla egw sou eyxomai ama mporeis na to pouliseis tha eisai poli alani
[13:49] <Anoniem4l> den einai asxhmo to site :p
[13:50] <geothom230> egw vlepw panta tis megales agores giati exei poli kosmo pou thelei na dei ti eftiaxes gia na to parei ama to goustarei
[13:51] <Anoniem4l> nai.. egw padws thelw na asxolithw me back-end development
[13:51] <Anoniem4l> asxeta tou site pou einai kati pou proekipse twra
[13:51] <Anoniem4l> prin auto den eixa asxolithei toso me front-end
[13:52] <geothom230> edw kaname kati parametropoiiseis se ena kineziko magazi kai mas rotousan oi kinezoi pos to kaname milame oi anthropoi theloun na mathanoun alla panta o kopos amoivete alla ama eisai tis koinotitas tou linux einai like a beer
[13:52] <Anoniem4l> axaxaxxaax
[13:53] <geothom230> siga siga ginontai ola kai efoson exeis tin gnosi tou programmatismou min fobase tipota vour gia ton patsa
[13:53] <Anoniem4l> etsi einai, h pliroforia einai polytimh, h gnwsh einai dynamh, kapioi to exoun katalavoi kai to krivoun wste na xoun autoi tin dunamh :)
[13:53] <Anoniem4l> katalavei*
[13:55] <geothom230> i lexi pliroforiki exei polles ennoies alla kanenas den mporei na katanoiisei ama xeris kai stin arxaiotita eixan llinux panarxaio kai me laptop programmatizan ayta den ta xerei o kosmos i kaliteri kryptografysi einai sta arxaia ellinika giati exoun mathimatiki ypostasi kai programmatizan me algorithmiki pythagoreia exisosei.egw ayto simera mou to esteilan se email kai epatha kokomploko ston egkefalo
[13:58] <Anoniem4l> eixa akousei apo ena filo pou eixe sti sxolh tou ena analogo mathima, kati me lekshs kai arithmous, kai mou eipe oti oi arxaioi eixan sindesi tis ellhnikes leksis me cipher
[13:59] <Anoniem4l> me cipher dhladh to connection pou eixe h mia leksh me tin allhn den htan mono eniologiko alla kai mathimatiko
[13:59] <Anoniem4l> mistiria pragmata ahhahaha
[14:01] <geothom230> orai einai mou aresoun aytes oi faseis giati eixan oraia ypologistika systimata stin arxaiotita ti na mas kanei o quantum ypolosgistis emeis exoume Pythagora
[14:01] <Anoniem4l> ee nai etsi einai
[14:02] <Anoniem4l> genika exw katalavei oti ama thes na grapseis kalo kwdika thelei tromera mathimatika se simio ptixiou apo panepistimio
[14:02] <geothom230> sxetiko einai ayto
[14:03] <Anoniem4l> eixa lavei meros se ena challenge pou eixe kanei h google, kai meta apo ena simio den ginotan xwris tromeres gnwseis mathimatikon... eixa paei sto ##math edw sto freenode kai pali me to zori katalavaina ti eprepe na kanw
[14:03] <Anoniem4l> wait na sou deiksw ti puzzle mou eixan valei
[14:03] <geothom230> eixa ena filo pou eimstan synexeia sto internet cafe egw prospathousa na mathw diktya cisco kai aytos programatze o keratas se assebly
[14:05] <Anoniem4l> http://pastebin.com/Vb0L29xw
[14:05] <Anoniem4l> h lush tou eksou problhmatos mou fanike para poly poliplokh
[14:05] <geothom230> https://weakdh.org/imperfect-forward-secrecy.pdf
[14:06] <geothom230> Fix my phone, minion!
[14:06] <geothom230> axaxaxaxaxaa kalo kai ayto
[14:06] <Anoniem4l> exw dokimasei na kanw reverse engineer diafora binaries (milodas peri assembly) kai mou fanika para poly diskolo....
[14:06] <Anoniem4l> fanike*
[14:06] <Anoniem4l> prepei na ksereis ta operating system internals kala
[14:07] <Anoniem4l> h glwssa h assembly den einai kai kati tromera disnoito
[14:07] <Anoniem4l> to thema einai na kses to operating system pou trexei tin assembly kai auto einai to duskolo :(
[14:07] <Anoniem4l> nai eixe humour h google :p
[14:09] <geothom230> aytos epaize to pliktrologio gia plaka me assembly kai mou elege se emana ferto se mena na to programmatiso kai sto ekane se xrono de te
[14:09] <Anoniem4l> bravo tou
[14:09] <Anoniem4l> gia ti epoxh milame omos?
[14:10] <geothom230> tora to paidi vrisketai stin ollandia se mia etairia
[14:12] <Anoniem4l> wres wres tha ithela na eixa genithei kamia 10 xronia prin na prolavena ta operating systems pio apla kai na epeza mazi tous me assembly :D
[14:13] <Anoniem4l> kerato: esu mou eleges gia epoxes MS-DOS kai assembly?
[14:13] <Anoniem4l> h o kilon htane?
[14:14] <kilon> ego imoyn
[14:14] <Anoniem4l> yeap
[14:14] <Anoniem4l> wraies epoxes e?
[14:14] <Anoniem4l> pffffff
[14:15] <geothom230> egw prolava se disketes tis bell to unix alla pote den irthan sta xeria mou
[14:15] <kilon> i assembly itan poly apli
[14:15] <kilon> tora einai ena makrinari mexri to olympo
[14:16] <Anoniem4l> ahahaa etsi akribws kilon
[14:17] <kilon> piga na matho assembly gia macos kai moy leei
[14:17] <kilon> "asto megale den to exeis, pigene gia kafe"
[14:17] <kilon> kai piga gia kafe
[14:17] <Anoniem4l> xaxaxaxaxaax
[14:17] <geothom230> anoniem4l:file mou debianista se eyxaristo gia tin politimi boitheia kai soy euxomai na paei kala to project sou me to cms gia na pareis ta fragkakia sou giati to axizeis
[14:18] <Anoniem4l> geothom230: na se kala :) kai egw to elpizw na ginei kati
[14:18] <kilon> ithele i kathe entoli align the stack kai paparies
[14:18] <geothom230> den thelei agxos
[14:18] <geothom230> kai egw to exw to gamimeno to agxos
[14:23] <Anoniem4l> pio poly piesh para agxos
[14:23] <Anoniem4l> pleon o programatismos einai toso mainstream pou exei poly lao sto xwro ergasias
[14:24] <Anoniem4l> kai einai duskola ta pragmata
[14:30] <kilon> den thelei kopo
[14:30] <kilon> thelei
[14:30] <kilon> psixofarmaka
[14:30] <Anoniem4l> XAXAAXXA
[14:32] <kilon> ekatsa na matho prosfata kai assembly gia Z80
[14:32] <kilon> gia na programmatiso se amstrad cpc 6128
[14:33] <kilon> not that bad
[14:33] <Anoniem4l> >not that bad
[14:33] <Anoniem4l> xaxaxaxa
[14:33] <kilon> se sxesi me to macos , 10 fores pio eykoli
[14:33] <Anoniem4l> makes sense :p
[14:34] <kilon> pistevo einai kalo na ksekinas me apli platforma
[14:34] <kilon> miloysa me ena paidi kai kati paromoio moy eipan oti kanoyn sto panepistimio
[14:34] <kilon> nomizo kai ekei tin z80 didaskan
[14:35] <geothom230> amiga commondore tin thimaste katholou?
[14:39] <Anoniem4l> genithika ligo meta apo otan epapse na kukloforei :p
[14:45] <simosx> asm is back, https://github.com/nemasu/asmttpd
[14:45] <geothom230> tin epoxi pou gennithikes itan mia xara ta paidia pou geniountai tora exoun xasei tin mpala8-)
[14:45] <Anoniem4l> isxiei, oso paei xirotereuei to kako
[14:45] <kilon> kai i amiga z80 i kati paromoio einai
[14:46] <kilon> nai alla tote i assembly itan mainstream
[14:47] <kilon> tora pleon exei ena soro glosses me poly kales epidoseis
[14:47] <kilon> tote i assembly i tipota
[14:47] <kilon> tora elaxistoi xrisimopoioyn assembly
[14:48] <kilon> kai na soy po , akoma kai tote na kaneis programma se assembly itan xali mayro
[14:48] <kilon> pio apli
[14:48] <kilon> all den epave na einai assembly
[14:52] <Anoniem4l> e daksi, ta operating system internals htane poly pio apla omws
[14:55] <kilon> nai alla
[14:55] <kilon> protimo ton python moy
[14:55] <Anoniem4l> o pythonas panta se kouvalaei sti plath tou
[14:56] <Anoniem4l> mono pou mporei na paei ligo arga
[14:56] <Anoniem4l> alla kouvalaei
[14:56] <kilon> ama argei to rixneis mia vivliothiki python se C kai paei sfera
[14:57] <Anoniem4l> veveos, uparxoun diaforoi tropoi optimization
[14:57] <kilon> to na grafeis assembly einai san na kaneis eksorkismo
[14:57] <Anoniem4l> axaxaxxaaxaxxaax
[14:57] <kilon> se xilious daimonismenous
[14:57] <kilon> taytoxronos
[14:57] <Anoniem4l> simfwnw apolytos
[14:58] <kilon> python einai san an aploneis ladi se victoria secret modelo
[14:58] <Anoniem4l> :D
[14:58] <kilon> alla ama thes low level
[14:58] <kilon> Assembly is the way
[14:59] <Anoniem4l> more like inline assembly, kati C kai ASM h C++ kai ASM
[14:59] <kilon> poly pio aplo
[14:59] <kilon> alla apo tin stigmi poy yparxei i C , dyskolo na protimiseis assembly
[15:00] <Anoniem4l> nai isxiei
[15:00] <Anoniem4l> to kentro (C)entre einai to balance
[15:00] <Anoniem4l> ASM <-> C(entre) <-> python ktl
[15:01] <kilon> apo oso ksero akoma kai oi drivers ginontai se C
[15:01] <Anoniem4l> linux kernel = C
[15:01] <Anoniem4l> :D
[15:02] <kilon> ego poy asxoloyme me blender, gia 3d graphica, poy i taxytita paizei tairastio rolo, to 75% einai C/C++/ObjC kai 25% python
[15:02] <kilon> katholoy assembly apo oso ksero
[15:03] <Anoniem4l> e nai pleon megala project se assembly den uparxoun
[15:04] <Anoniem4l> megala project tou tupou operating system ktl
[15:04] <Anoniem4l> uparxoun men
[15:04] <Anoniem4l> alla den exoun ola ta fwta panw tous
[15:05] <Anoniem4l> kilon: asxolise me 3dstudiomax?
[15:05] <geothom230> kilon:kane kamia tainia me ton programmatismo stin arxaia ellada tha xesteis sto talaro i' tin bitconia
[15:05] <kilon> 3dsmax ksekinisa to 1999
[15:05] <kilon> alla pleon mono blender
[15:06] <geothom230> einai kalo to blender
[15:06] <Anoniem4l> kilon: o aderfos mou kanei didaktoriko panw sto 3dstudiomax, ena plugin, gia arxitektoniki
[15:06] <kilon> geothom230: apo xesimo allo tipota
[15:06] <geothom230> axaxaxaxaxaaaa
[15:06] <geothom230> mpa se kalo amana ksana ipasin
[15:07] <kilon> ti epathes ?
[15:07] <geothom230> tpt
[15:09] <geothom230> tha sas steilw gia douleia stin akixampara se ligo
[15:09] <Anoniem4l> xaxaaxxaaxax
[15:10] <geothom230> tha sas erxontai ta mikra anime japs epanw sas kai eseis tha prepei na programatisete se 5 lepta kwdiak
[15:10] <geothom230> kwdika ithela na pw
[15:14] <geothom230> tha sas kanw dwro ayto http://www.google.gr/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcsteps.gr%2F1308-choosing-the-perfect-monitor%2F&ei=t6RcVf75M4TdUdz9gHg&bvm=bv.93756505,d.d24&psig=AFQjCNEDcuAQx6E4GhAEqyjFtJNtusDNjA&ust=1432221229185690 ston anoniem4l kai ton kilon
[15:15] <geothom230> mipos ekana lathos miso
[15:16] <Anoniem4l> mallon
[15:16] <Anoniem4l> :p
[15:17] <geothom230> http://cdn.pcsteps.gr/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/miscellaneous_hardware_choosing_a_monitor_multiplemonitors.jpg ela ayto einai
[15:17] <geothom230> ena aplo tyiko ergastiri programmatisti
[15:17] <kilon> geothom230: exo imac, apo monitor eimai mia xara
[15:17] <kilon> tzi tzi
[15:17] <Anoniem4l> twra exw 3 othones, 1 laptop me othoni kai 2 othones me desktop
[15:18] <geothom230> poso to pires
[15:18] <Anoniem4l> kalokeraki tha parw kenourgio pc
[15:18] <Anoniem4l> mporei na parw kai kama othoni :p
[15:18] <Anoniem4l> kamia*
[15:18] <geothom230> aaa esis me xeperasate eimai akoma stin arxi ege
[15:18] <kilon> ton imac ?
[15:18] <geothom230> nai
[15:19] <kilon> 2000 eyro
[15:19] <geothom230> ooooohhh i kardia mou
[15:19] <kilon> me tin 27'' othoni retina
[15:19] <geothom230> kala einai poses inches
[15:19] <geothom230> tora thew ta xapia mou
[15:19] <kilon> nai alla ego toys kratao toys ypologistes
[15:20] <geothom230> darwin kernel kai den simazevete
[15:20] <kilon> o proigoymenos ton eixa 7 xronia
[15:20] <geothom230> kali fasi
[15:20] <kilon> aytos exeis analysi 2560 x 1440
[15:20] <geothom230> mi les alla katarew
[15:20] <kilon> giati ?
[15:21] <kilon> edo evgale 5k monitor
[15:21] <geothom230> piece of art is apple
[15:21] <Anoniem4l> to desktop mou einai 7-8 xronon
[15:21] <kilon> vasika 5k imac o opoios einai pio ftinos kai apo 4k montitor :D
[15:21] <geothom230> exei zfs filesystem na paw ston tafo pio grigora
[15:21] <geothom230> kala einai kai ta dekstop
[15:22] <kilon> Anoniem4l: etsi imoy kai ego, 7 xronia ton ixa ton allaksa perisi
[15:22] <kilon> nai den me volevei o laptop
[15:22] <kilon> exo ena macbook air kai pianei skoni
[15:22] <kilon> kai einai super voliko
[15:22] <geothom230> kanto dwro ston anoniem4l
[15:22] <kilon> kai android tablet
[15:22] <geothom230> technofrek
[15:22] <kilon> :D
[15:23] <kilon> an to eperna doran sigoyra tha to ekana dorean
[15:23] <kilon> :D
[15:23] <geothom230> eimaste gia kamia defcon.org
[15:23] <kilon> ti einai toyto ore ?
[15:23] <Anoniem4l> xaaxaaxxa
[15:23] <Anoniem4l> kilon: hacking conference
[15:23] <geothom230> einai ola ta kala paidia pou pigainoun team kai ginetai tou koutrouli o gamos
[15:24] <kilon> a nai arkei na min ksexaso na valo to kalodio stin mpriza
[15:24] <Anoniem4l> axxaxa
[15:25] <kilon> geothom230: ti glossa programmatismoy vasanizeis ?
[15:25] <kilon> ego python kai Pharo
[15:26] <Anoniem4l> egw kserw C/C++, python, PHP, BASH, twra teleftea paizw me CSS/HTML kai javascript
[15:26] <geothom230> egw mpira kai pitogyro gnorizw
[15:26] <geothom230> axaxaxaxaaa
[15:26] <Anoniem4l> :P
[15:27] <geothom230> html5,nypiaka python kai bash script alla pio poli mou arexoun ta diktya se epipedo blackhat.com
[15:27] <Anoniem4l> epikindinh h javascript pou lete magkes
[15:27] <kilon> eiste asteria kai asteries
[15:28] <Anoniem4l> axxaxaxa
[15:28] <geothom230> eseis eiste theoi me ayta pou xerete me vraxikiklosate
[15:28] <kilon> to mono epikindino tis JS einai oti tha se kanei na sympathiseis kai tin assembly
[15:28] <Anoniem4l> kai pou ta kserw to esodima mou einai 0$ auth ti stigmh
[15:28] <Anoniem4l> opote tzampa ta kserw
[15:28] <Anoniem4l> kilon XAXAXAXAXA
[15:29] <kilon> den nomizo oti pio frankenstein glossa apo tin JS na yparxei
[15:29] <Anoniem4l> isxiei
[15:29] <kilon> an kai akouo kosmo na paramulaei gia tin Combol
[15:29] <Anoniem4l> lol
[15:30] <geothom230> mazepte apo douleies tou kwlou kai kante ena taksidakis stin defcon tha sas anoixei i eppagelamtiki drastiriotita sas
[15:30] <kilon> to epiko me tin JS einai to kalytero vivlio tis einai "Javascript the good parts"
[15:30] <kilon> meta apo ayto , den yparxei sxolio
[15:30] <geothom230> yparxei re paidia i pascal kai i delphi
[15:30] <geothom230> ?
[15:30] <kilon> apo Delphi erxomai
[15:30] <kilon> gamei
[15:31] <kilon> kai akoma exei mpoliko kosmo
[15:31] <Anoniem4l> episis arketa malware pezoun se delphi
[15:31] <kilon> tora exei kai analogo open source, Free Pascal + Lazarus
[15:31] <kilon> http://www.lazarus-ide.org/
[15:32] <kilon> to opoio einai kai symvato me Delphi
[15:32] <kilon> stin ousia to .NET apo Delphi ksekinise
[15:32] <kilon> o idios typos ta eftiakse kai ta dyo apla se diaforetikes etaireies
[15:33] <Anoniem4l> episis kati eixe parei to mati mou gia .NET se linux
[15:33] <kilon> meso MONO
[15:33] <kilon> apo oso ksero doyleyei alla den exei poly kosmo
[15:33] <kilon> paizei episeis kai se iOS
[15:33] <kilon> kai macos
[15:33] <kilon> den eimai sigoyros gia android omos
[15:33] <kilon> alla logika
[15:34] <geothom230> kali fasi o lazaros devra exo
[15:34] <kilon> einai kopia toy Delphi
[15:34] <kilon> remkae vevaia alla akoloythaei pista
[15:35] <kilon> ego xrisimopoio kati analogo , alla se dynamic language
[15:35] <kilon> fantasoy an pername to Delphi kai to mixarame me Python
[15:35] <kilon> Pharo
[15:35] <kilon> http://pharo.org/
[15:35] <Anoniem4l> idea den exw apo delphi
[15:36] <kilon> i oysia einai oti exeis ena IDE poy paei xeri xeri me tin glossa
[15:36] <kilon> gia R.A.D (Rapid Application Development)
[15:36] <kilon> vevaio o pharo kanei kai live coding, diladi programmatizeis mia efarmogi eno i efarmogi soy trexei
[15:37] <Anoniem4l>  Create a class (by Kilon)
[15:37] <Anoniem4l> Instance variables (by Kilon)
[15:37] <Anoniem4l> Workspace variables (by Kilon)
[15:37] <Anoniem4l> kilon autoprosopos?
[15:37] <Anoniem4l> XAXAXA
[15:37] <kilon> einai diladi san zontanos organismos
[15:37] <kilon> eimai diasimos , eimai i paris hilton ton glosson programmatismoy
[15:37] <Anoniem4l> xaxaxaxaxaxa
[15:37] <Anoniem4l> sovara
[15:37] <Anoniem4l> esu eisai?
[15:37] <Anoniem4l> axaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
[15:37] <kilon> ego
[15:38] <Anoniem4l> nice
[15:38] <kilon> o enas kai monadikos kilon
[15:38] <Anoniem4l> >Playlist for all Kilon Tutorials
[15:39] <kilon> nai vazan ena ena ta tutorials kai toys leo "palikaria exo ftiaksei playlist"
[15:39] <Anoniem4l> ama einai simptosi auto pou egine twra einai poly tragiko
[15:39] <Anoniem4l> xaxaxaaxxaxaxaxa
[15:39] <kilon> ti symptosi ? an kai ola se ptosi einai se aytin tin xora
[15:40] <Anoniem4l> oh shit
[15:40] <Anoniem4l> twra eida to youtube acc
[15:40] <Anoniem4l> esu eisai
[15:40] <Anoniem4l> lol
[15:40] <kilon> me ksereis prosopika ?
[15:40] <Anoniem4l> no
[15:40] <kilon> a ok
[15:40] <Anoniem4l> lol
[15:40] <Anoniem4l> apla einai ellhnas + nickname kilon
[15:41] <Anoniem4l> == 90% esu
[15:41] <Anoniem4l> watching your tuts now
[15:41] <kilon> ama kaneis google "kilon" ta perissoterao koryfaia links eimai ego
[15:42] <geothom230> eeeee who are u called KILON???? emmmmm
[15:42] <geothom230> GOD is speaking tou u my friend KILON!!!!
[15:43] <kilon> o_O
[15:43] <geothom230> o kilon se rolo moysi me tis deka entoles tis C...
[15:43] <kilon> Geia soy Thee, Thee den exeis ton theo soy
[15:44] <geothom230> GEia sou paidi mou...
[15:44] <kilon> nomizo oti prepei na mioseis tis mpyres
[15:44] <geothom230> oxi re esi mia xara einai
[15:45] <Anoniem4l> axaxxaaxxaaxax
[15:45] <geothom230> root:chmod:777 127.0.0.1
[15:45] <geothom230> tha pao sto spi ti mou 127.0.0.1
[15:45] <kilon> password: PrepeiNaMiosoTisMpyres
[15:46] <geothom230> donttrustkilon.trojan
[15:46] <geothom230> axaxaxaxaxaxaxaa
[15:47] <kilon> :|
[15:47] <Anoniem4l> twra me IPv6 to 127.0.0.1 tha xathei :'(
[15:47] <geothom230> mpouaxaxaxaxaxa
[15:47]  * kilon update his code
[15:47] <Anoniem4l> ::1
[15:47] <Anoniem4l> ^
[15:48] <kilon> poy to eidate to 127.0.1
[15:48] <kilon> sto video moy ?
[15:48] <Anoniem4l> egw den to da pouthena, apla to commentara epeidh to eida apo ton geothom230
[15:49] <Anoniem4l> watching this atm
[15:49] <Anoniem4l> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol5ivaEATLQ
[15:49] <geothom230> simera irthe sto irakleio o richard stallman
[15:49] <kilon> oraios
[15:50] <kilon> o agios stallman
[15:50] <Anoniem4l> kalh fash to dot sto telos
[15:50] <Anoniem4l> san protash
[15:50] <geothom230> vre tzanampeti kilon pou to evrikes aytin tin fasin
[15:51] <geothom230> o faros tis alexandroupolis einai
[15:51] <geothom230> i o faros tis alexandreias
[15:51] <kilon> Anoniem4l: akrivos, kai genika i glossa miazei me agglika xoris na einai verbose
[15:51] <kilon> geothom230: ton pharo ?
[15:52] <geothom230> yeap
[15:52] <kilon> imoyn sto kanali #emacs edo sto irc
[15:52] <geothom230> awesome
[15:52] <kilon> giati mathaina emacs kai common lisp kai rotisa ta palikaria ekei
[15:53] <kilon> "paidia oraio to emacs den leo alla moy ti dinei to text based interface , that itan poly oraio o emacs na eixe GUIS"
[15:53] <geothom230> lisp eida stin tainia chappie robot kali fasi
[15:53] <kilon> kai enas moy protine to Squeak
[15:53] <geothom230> kai exei ubuntu sta computers tous
[15:53] <geothom230> texniki noimosini
[15:53] <kilon> den eixa idea apo Smalltalk
[15:53] <kilon> kai apo to Squeak perasa sto Pharo
[15:54] <kilon> lisp para poly kali
[15:54] <kilon> alla me tin common lisp epesa se poly snobaria
[15:54] <kilon> toys elega moy aresei o python
[15:54] <kilon> ilithio me anevazen kai me katevazan
[15:54] <kilon> oxi oloi
[15:55] <kilon> alla eixe poly snobarisma
[15:55] <kilon> san glossa i lisp einai foveri
[15:56] <kilon> kai alitheia na legetai otan matheis lisp kseneroneis me tis alles glosses programmatismoy
[15:56] <kilon> an den evriska ton Pharo tha emena common lisp, i Clojure
[15:57] <kilon> kai xrisimpoio ton Pharo mazi me python
[15:57] <kilon> kai eimai kalymenos
[15:58] <Anoniem4l> emena maresei para poly to C syntax kai to python syntax
[15:58] <Anoniem4l> eidika to C mou exei afisei psixologika
[15:58] <Anoniem4l> lol
[15:58] <kilon> gia ayto min matheis lisp :D
[15:58] <kilon> gia na synexisoyn na soy aresoyn
[15:58] <kilon> aaa
[15:58] <kilon> leo kai ego
[15:59] <kilon> giati o python se dyskoleyei ?
[15:59] <Anoniem4l> no oute kan
[15:59] <Anoniem4l> to antitheto
[15:59] <Anoniem4l> lol
[15:59] <kilon> pinete poly edo mesa
[15:59] <Anoniem4l> apla maresei pio poly to C syntax epeidh mou kathete poly kala sto mati
[15:59] <kilon> san tsimpla ena pragma
[15:59] <Anoniem4l> axXAXA
[15:59] <geothom230> http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/
[16:00] <Anoniem4l> xaxaxaxaax
[16:00] <Anoniem4l> xaxaxaa
[16:00] <geothom230> ti pineis kai den mas dineis kilon
[16:01] <kilon> to feggari
[16:01] <Anoniem4l> moonshine
[16:01] <geothom230> ayto einai tis lilith pare ta kouvadakia sou kai se allon planiti pane
[16:02] <Anoniem4l> axaxaxax kilon egw exw na piw 2-3 mhnes
[16:02] <Anoniem4l> twra gia ton geothom230 den kserw
[16:02] <Anoniem4l> axxaaxxa
[16:02] <kilon> exete kana project poy doyleyete ?
[16:02] <geothom230> noop
[16:02] <Anoniem4l> ena website
[16:02] <kilon> link ?
[16:02] <Anoniem4l> pou mou vgazei ti psuxh
[16:02] <Anoniem4l> den einai uploaded pouthena
[16:03] <Anoniem4l> otan einai ready tha sou deiksw :)
[16:03] <kilon> kala min thimoneis
[16:04] <geothom230> kai gamw ton dithiravo kaname simera kali  fasi
[16:04] <Anoniem4l> mia mikrh dwsh: http://puu.sh/hUh01/f006a1c6f8.png
[16:04] <kilon> oraio fainetai
[16:05] <Anoniem4l> kaloutsiko einai
[16:05] <kilon> moy aresoyn i stroggyles gonies
[16:05] <kilon> kai skia
[16:05] <kilon> mia xara
[16:06] <Anoniem4l> http://puu.sh/hUh6R/0cc6e6e6fc.png
[16:06] <kilon> tha mporoysa na fantasto ton eayto moy web designer
[16:06] <Anoniem4l> ahahaaahh
[16:06] <kilon> fantazomai einai template ayto
[16:06] <kilon> den to eftiakses apo to miden
[16:06] <kilon> ortho ?
[16:06] <Anoniem4l> no
[16:06] <Anoniem4l> ola apo to 0
[16:06] <Anoniem4l> ola omos
[16:06] <kilon> !!!
[16:06] <Anoniem4l> ektos apto slider
[16:07] <kilon> a ekanes poly kali douleia
[16:07] <kilon> eyge
[16:07] <Anoniem4l> http://puu.sh/hUh9E/2b728b6fa1.png
[16:07] <Anoniem4l> den eimai monos
[16:07] <Anoniem4l> mazi me ena filo
[16:07] <kilon> vale kena metaksi ton koytion kai ton labels
[16:07] <Anoniem4l> sto register exw ajax validator gia username/em-mail
[16:07] <Anoniem4l> e-mail*
[16:08] <Anoniem4l> http://puu.sh/hUhe4/79dda00297.png
[16:08] <geothom230> mpravo kali doulitsa ekanes
[16:08] <Anoniem4l> einai ergasia gia tin sxolh
[16:08] <Anoniem4l> alla exw valei pneumatika dikeomata gia na mi mou tin fane
[16:09] <geothom230> parakalw ton kyr doctor kilon na pei kati
[16:09] <Anoniem4l> kai tin poulhsw kapws
[16:09] <Anoniem4l> kai na*
[16:09] <Anoniem4l> http://puu.sh/hUhkJ/38cdf62b97.png
[16:10] <kilon> ti na po ? to eipa
[16:10] <Anoniem4l> http://puu.sh/hUhn0/a302268f70.png
[16:11] <Anoniem4l> douleuw twra gia search implementation kai comments
[16:11] <Anoniem4l> o filos mou kanei improve to overall design
[16:12] <Anoniem4l> epishs einai compatible se kathe resolution
[16:13] <Anoniem4l> http://puu.sh/hUhwJ/2a3b5176c1.jpg
[16:14] <Anoniem4l> thelei douleia akoma.
[16:16] <kilon> βημα βημα
[16:16] <geothom230> anoniem4l: mrpavo sou pantos tha to vreis eisai gatoni
[16:16] <Anoniem4l> makari
[16:16] <Anoniem4l> alla den thelw na asxolithw epagelmatika me web-design
[16:16] <Anoniem4l> maresei to back-end dev
[16:17] <geothom230> ligo apo ola einai kala
[16:17] <Anoniem4l> nai sigoura
[16:17] <Anoniem4l> giafto asxoloume epeidh einai kalo na exeis mia idea apola
[16:19] <kilon> εχει ψωμι το web design στην Ελλάδα ?
[16:19] <Anoniem4l> den paizei rolo
[16:19] <Anoniem4l> genika exei psomi to web-design
[16:20] <kilon> καλα εξω λιγο πολύ ολα τα ψηφιακα εχουν ψωμί
[16:20] <Anoniem4l> yep
[16:20] <Anoniem4l> kilon: eksoteriko eisai?
[16:20] <geothom230> stin ellada den axizei me ayta pou kanetai kalytera sto exoteriko kai tha vgalete gousta trela kai me gkomenes
[16:20] <kilon> απο οσο ξερω μια στατική ιστοσελίδα κάνει καπου στο 1000 ευρω
[16:20] <kilon> δεν ειναι άσχημα
[16:21] <Anoniem4l> an tin poulhseis apoklistika
[16:21] <Anoniem4l> nai
[16:21] <kilon> ναι
[16:21] <Anoniem4l> egw skeftome na to paw alliws me licenses
[16:21] <kilon> στο Τζατζικιστάν είμαι
[16:21] <Anoniem4l> what the hell
[16:21] <Anoniem4l> loll
[16:21] <Anoniem4l> yoghurt ftw
[16:22] <kilon> είναι διπλα στο Πιταγυροσταν
[16:22] <geothom230> apo athina einai o kilon
[16:22] <kilon> ήμουν Αγγλία 5 χρόνια
[16:22] <geothom230> tyxerakia
[16:22] <kilon> εφαγα συννεφιά και γύρισα
[16:22] <geothom230> sto launcaster isoun mipos
[16:23] <kilon> τυχερος που είμαι Αθήνα ή που πήγα αγγλία ?
[16:23] <geothom230> England
[16:23] <kilon> όχι ήμουν κοντά στο λονδίνο
[16:23] <geothom230> suburbs
[16:23] <kilon> Chelmsford 3 χρόνια , St. Albans 2 χρόνια
[16:23] <geothom230> aaa den ta xerw
[16:23] <kilon> το δεύτερο ειναι κάτω απο το Luton
[16:23] <Anoniem4l> kalh fash to eksoteriko
[16:24] <Anoniem4l> exw paei barkelonh me 7hmerh sto lukeio
[16:24] <kilon> η οργάνωση των Άγγλων είναι επική
[16:24] <Anoniem4l> brb
[16:25] <kilon> το Chelmsford είναι μητρόπολη του Essex
[16:25] <geothom230> barkeloni katalonia la sa grada familia idrabaxo
[16:25] <Anoniem4l> si mon hermano
[16:26] <Anoniem4l> lol
[16:26] <kilon>  hola
[16:26] <geothom230> o kilon richard the king with weapons of C
[16:26] <geothom230> gracias senior
[16:26] <Anoniem4l> kilon on the pharon with C grade of weapons
[16:26] <geothom230> hola
[16:26] <kilon> den grafo C kardia moy
[16:26] <Anoniem4l> kilon on the pharon with C grade of weapon*
[16:26] <Anoniem4l> rhyme ^^^^
[16:26] <geothom230> axaxaxaxaxaxaa
[16:26] <Anoniem4l> axxaxaxaaxxa
[16:26] <kilon> Φαρος
[16:26] <geothom230> eimaste trelokomeia gmt
[16:27] <Anoniem4l> axxaaxaxax
[16:27] <Anoniem4l> brb
[16:28] <kilon> etsi etsi einai to pio ftino
[16:28] <kilon> tsampa trela
[16:29] <geothom230> ti einai mayro kai se akolouthaei?
[16:29] <kilon> to xali moy
[16:29] <kilon> ?
[16:29] <geothom230> axaxaxaxaa nai
[16:30] <geothom230> ti einai prasino kai anevokatebainei
[16:30] <geothom230> ?
[16:30] <kilon> o @#$% toy Hulk ?
[16:30] <geothom230> ena mpizeli mesa se asanser
[16:30] <geothom230> kalo eeee
[16:31] <kilon> ti einai kokkino kai trexei ?
[16:31] <geothom230> ee
[16:31] <geothom230> pcbsd
[16:31] <kilon> i omeleta
[16:32] <geothom230> axaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa afou den einai kokkino
[16:32] <kilon> giati mipos trexei ?
[16:32] <geothom230> ouxaxxaxaxaxaaa
[16:32] <kilon> pos den mas exoyn kickarei kai banarei kai ksanakickarei , den gnorizo
[16:33] <geothom230> afou den yparxei moderator
[16:33] <geothom230> mon botakia exei
[16:33] <kilon> eleytheria
[16:33] <geothom230> i thanatos
[16:34] <kilon> :D
[16:34] <kilon> ti leei to irakleio ?
[16:34] <geothom230> athina apo peristeri se kovw na eisai
[16:34] <kilon> konta epeses
[16:34] <geothom230> aigalew
[16:34] <kilon> petroypoli imoyn
[16:34] <geothom230> kali perioxi alla egw pigaina mpoyrnazi
[16:34] <geothom230> exw oraia pipinia
[16:35] <kilon> to exo faei me to koytali
[16:35] <geothom230> exei oraia pipinia
[16:35] <kilon> ellada eimaste pantoy oraia pipinia exei
[16:35] <geothom230> salonik exeis erthei katholou
[16:35] <kilon> perissotero i eparxia
[16:35] <kilon> nai exo anevei dyo fores
[16:36] <geothom230> eparxia einai orai sto metsovo
[16:36] <Anoniem4l> back
[16:36] <kilon> exo erata me ta xania
[16:36] <geothom230> me ena laptop na kaneis ton guru sta bouna
[16:36] <kilon> me vlepo na tin kano gia ekei
[16:36] <geothom230> kriti me ton ipsiloroti
[16:37] <kilon> protima beach bar katastaseis
[16:37] <kilon> I am son of the beach
[16:37] <Anoniem4l> lleuta magkes, me leuta pame padou
[16:37] <geothom230> to exw barethei pia thelw se vouna me ta paidia tis nyxtas lykous
[16:38] <kilon> ti na ta kaneis ta lefta stin kriti
[16:38] <geothom230> pane agia napa
[16:38] <Anoniem4l> kala kai ta vouna alla xwris internet den pame pouthena
[16:38] <kilon> exo ena soro filoys kriti xoris lefta kai pernane mia xara
[16:38] <geothom230> ftixneis diko sou
[16:38] <geothom230> tou tsampa i mana den pethane telika
[16:38] <kilon> exo 100 kb/s syndesi edo, i giagia moy exei 1 mb/s sta xania
[16:39] <geothom230> kritikatsi to kopeli mas
[16:39] <Anoniem4l> thelw kapia mera na exw google fiber
[16:39] <Anoniem4l> den me niazei tipota allo
[16:39] <geothom230> i tsikoudiea kai ta rakomela mou aresoun
[16:39] <geothom230> party me ouza
[16:39] <Anoniem4l> to experience tou 1 GB/s prepei na einai monadiko
[16:39] <geothom230> anoniem4l:
[16:39] <kilon> na se po me 400 kb/s eimai mia xara
[16:40] <Anoniem4l> egw den pinw tipota pleon
[16:40] <geothom230> anoniem4l:tha se steilw palo alto ekei pou imoun prin 2 xronia sto googel village tsampa ola
[16:40] <Anoniem4l> axxaxaxaxa
[16:40] <Anoniem4l> lol geothom230
[16:41] <Anoniem4l> axxxx to tsigaro prepei na kopso mono
[16:41] <Anoniem4l> pfff
[16:43] <geothom230> egw to ekopsa efosonn tin epatha
[16:44] <Anoniem4l> :(
[16:44] <Anoniem4l> posa xronia kapnizes?
[16:44] <geothom230> edw kai 5 xronia eimai clean up
[16:44] <Anoniem4l> egw kapnizw apo 15 kai eimai 21
[16:44] <geothom230> 3 paketa 25aria san arapis 12xronia
[16:45] <Anoniem4l> egw strifta aforologita, 2,5eu 50grams apo skopia old holdborn aspro
[16:45] <Anoniem4l> toulaxiston den xanw lefta apo auto
[16:45] <Anoniem4l> alla kai pali poly kako kanei stin ugeia
[16:45] <geothom230> xaneis tin ygeia sou omos
[16:45] <Anoniem4l> nai auto akribws
[16:47] <geothom230> kai egw apo magkia klania kai eksaptisi xekinisa to kwlotsigaro kai me miose se polla alla tora niotho pio kalytera afou tin pathaineis meta bazeis myalo thes den thes
[16:48] <Anoniem4l> daksi na se pw tin alithia egw goustarw to tsigaro se ena vathmo
[16:48] <Guest4785> Γεια σας. Στην προσθαφαίρεση προγραμμάτων μου βγάζει το μνμ Υπήρξε αποτυχία στο σύστημα διαχείρισης λογισμικού. Παρακαλούμε ελέγξτε για κατεστραμμένα πακέτα με τον διαχειριστή πακέτων Synaptic, για τα δικαιώματα του αρχείου και την ορθότη
[16:48] <Anoniem4l> den to kana pote gia pozeria
[16:49] <Anoniem4l> alla den einai katholou kalo, niwtho tin diafora akoma kai sth skepsh tou egkefalou, tin epiroh pou exei/kanei
[16:49] <geothom230> o kathenas xerei kala ton eauto tou den tha ton valw egw myalo
[16:49] <Anoniem4l> sxedon kathe mera sikonome to prwi kkai lew den tha kapnisw kai olo lew ade akoma mia mera
[16:49] <Anoniem4l> tragikh katastash :p
[16:50] <geothom230> ayto exei mpei sto aima sou opos me exigise o doctor
[16:50] <Anoniem4l> koita, mia periodo prin kana xrono gia 1 vdomada den eixa fragka gia tipota oute gia tsigara, kai tin evgaza me 1 tsigaro max tin mera
[16:50] <geothom230> otan epatha polikystikitida ta eida ola kai penikillini megaton to katapolemesa kai etsi zw tora kai se milao
[16:51] <Anoniem4l> nai men eixa uperedash alla htan apodekto se ena vathmo, dhladh aneta to koveis ama to pareis apofash
[16:51] <geothom230> to tsigaro einai ethistiko kai ama to steritheis ginese thirio to exw perasei kai ayto to stadio
[16:51] <Anoniem4l> Guest4785: pio einai to problhma sou akribws?
[16:52] <Anoniem4l> nai isxiei u uperedash kai to tsitoma nevron
[16:52] <Anoniem4l> h*
[16:57] <kilon> etsi einai kai ego pote den kapnisa alla ksero pos ethistiko einai
[16:57] <kilon> eixa thyo me fimatiosi kai miso pneymona kai pali kapnize
[16:58] <talos-mintgr> 9η εβδομάδα χωρίς μια τζουρίτσα, απο προηγούμενη κατηγορία αράπη, μαυρου σκύλου, και ταμ-ταμ-ταμ
[16:59] <Anoniem4l> pwpwpw prepei na to kopso epigodos
[16:59] <Anoniem4l> etsi prepei na me varesei h trela na to parw apofash
[16:59] <kilon> einai thema na fas to palouki
[16:59] <kilon> eykolo den einai
[16:59] <kilon> kaka ta psemata
[17:02] <talos-mintgr> Απλά μια μερα ξύπνησα και είπα οχι για κανένα ιδιαίτερο λόγο. Και πριν 2 μέρες είχα πάρει 2κιλά καπνό χύμα
[17:05] <Anoniem4l> nice talos-mintgr
[17:10] <geothom230> Ήταν μιά  πάμπλουτη Ξανθιά επιχερηματίας. Κάποια στιγμή, της τυχαίνει μια στραβή και χάνει τα πάντα. Απελπισμένη, πηγαίνει  σε μια γέφυρα με σκοπό να βάλει τέρμα στη ζωή της. Εκεί που είναι  έτοιμη να πέσει στο κενό, την αρπάζει ένα χέρι και 
[17:10] <geothom230> - Κορίτσι  μου, λέει ο γέρος. Τι είναι αυτό που πας να κάνεις; Τρελάθηκες;
[17:10] <geothom230> - Τι θες ρε γέρο; Παράτα μας.
[17:10] <geothom230> - Κορίτσι μου, ξέρεις ποιος είμαι εγώ; Ο Αϊ-Βασίλης. Ίσως μπορώ να σε βοηθήσω!
[17:10] <geothom230> - Ασε με, ρε Αϊ-Βασίλη! Είχα λεφτά, είχα αμάξια, γκόμενους, λούσα ! Τώρα δεν έχω τίποτα.
[17:11] <talos-mintgr> Min lete sexistika. Μας ακούει το Euaki
[17:12] <Anoniem4l> axaxaxaxxaax
[17:12] <geothom230> exceeding flooding efage o pidgin dexometha attack
[17:13] <geothom230> Oraios o programmatismos alla kai to gelio exei alli xari
[17:13] <Anoniem4l> geothom230: ti soi diktia ksereis an dexese attack? :p
[17:14] <geothom230> kanenas re file mou den einai secure einai o kanonas tis astoxias kai tis apotyxias
[17:14] <Anoniem4l> egw pali trefw mia diaforetikh apopsh
[17:14] <talos-mintgr> Τι καλός netadm είναι ένας που δεν έχει ποτέ δεχτεί attack?
[17:14] <Anoniem4l> pisteuw oti to insecurity einai enas mythos
[17:15] <geothom230> kai oi admin tin patane
[17:15] <Anoniem4l> SYN proxy + rate limit
[17:15] <Anoniem4l> best you can do
[17:16] <geothom230> ama xtypane synexeia ta ssl key i mama nsa einai pantou
[17:16] <Anoniem4l> mi usareis SSL
[17:16] <Anoniem4l> :p
[17:16] <geothom230> edw  ton tor ton esteile sta tartara i mama nsa
[17:16] <Anoniem4l> TLS 1.2 + strong certs
[17:16] <kilon> gia pes to anekdoto
[17:17] <Anoniem4l> episis to tor einai american government project
[17:17] <geothom230> kai ayto einai paixnidaki tis mama nsa
[17:17] <Anoniem4l> exei backdoors mesa
[17:17] <geothom230> to tor to kataskevase to poleiko naytiko tis amerikis gia ypotithemeni epikoinonia
[17:17] <Anoniem4l> yep
[17:18] <Anoniem4l> alla kai pou egine open-source project pali exoun backdoors mesa
[17:18] <Anoniem4l> epitides
[17:18] <kilon> poleiko naytiko ? giati oxi to tropiko naytiko ?
[17:18] <Anoniem4l> lol
[17:18] <geothom230> alles gut
[17:18] <kilon> mas tin eida tora oi vorioi eksipnakides
[17:19] <Anoniem4l> ti kalutero apo 10.000 seires C!!!
[17:19] <talos-mintgr> 10.000 σειρές σε VHDL
[17:19] <kilon> 10.001 ?
[17:19] <geothom230> ayto to eidate ti paizei https://iguru.gr/2015/05/20/47401/logjam-ssl-vulnerable/
[17:19] <Anoniem4l> AXXAAX VHDL
[17:25] <Anoniem4l> kalh h sizitisi paides, efuga gia upnous, tha ta poume ksana aurio :)
[17:26] <geothom230> https://iguru.gr/2015/05/18/47344/phuctor-cracks-rsa-4096-bit-keys/
[17:30] <geothom230> https://www.secnews.gr/93330/%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B1%CF%80%CE%AC%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%84%CE%B1-%CE%B5%CF%81%CF%89%CF%84%CE%AE%CE%BC%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%B1-%CF%85%CF%80%CF%8C%CE%B8%CE%B5%CF%83%CE%B7-%CE%B3%CE%B9%CE%B1-%CE%B1%CF%83/
[17:33] <geothom230> tespa
[17:40] <geothom230> https://letsencrypt.org/