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intrbizyay, I have sheepdog up and running00:17
daftykinshow long until you're on one man and his dog?00:19
intrbizwell I guess I might be able to borrow on of those boston dynamics creations00:20
* OerHeks takes a ride on his chihuahua, yipeee!00:57
daftykinshahaha00:57
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mappsmorming04:36
zmoylan-pio/04:46
MooDoomorning07:04
diploMorning all07:20
MooDoohowdy diplo07:33
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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.07:35
SuperMattg'day mates07:36
MooDoohowdy howdy howdy07:37
brobostigonmorning SuperMatt and MooDoo07:38
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Weights and Measures Day! 😃08:31
* directhex measures JamesTait 08:33
JamesTaitHow many cubits?08:34
MooDoo1.21 jiggawatts isn't it08:37
popeyMorning slackers08:37
MooDoomorning ;)08:37
brobostigongigawatts, MooDoo08:40
kjvarleyGot a weird apache2 problem after doing updates last night. All of my virtualhosts have stopped working.10:38
kjvarleyChrome reports ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED for them10:39
kjvarleyMy entries are still present in /etc/hosts and here is the content of my /var/log/apache2/error.log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11242632/10:40
diploThey're not errors, just notices, basically just sayings its restarted. Could set the servername to drop that one10:49
diploSo no sites work at all ?10:50
kjvarleydiplo: Correct10:50
kjvarleyIt's weird, because I ahven10:50
kjvarleyIt's weird because I haven't changed the virtualhost files10:50
diploWas it a big update? or just a security one, changes from apache 2.2 -> 2.4 had some major config changes10:50
kjvarleyIs there a way to view what I updated last ?10:51
kjvarleyGot it10:52
diploMaybe, not sure of that.. I'll check.. can check your apache configs I think by apache2 -t10:52
kjvarleySoftware centre lets you view it10:52
diploAh is this running locally then ?10:52
kjvarleyYeah, sorry I forgot to say10:53
kjvarleyHere's the error from apache2 -t http://paste.ubuntu.com/11242824/10:53
kjvarleyThe APACHE_LOCK_DIR variable is set in /etc/apache2/envvars tho10:54
diploNot seen that before, that is set in /etc/apache2/envvar10:54
diploDoes that exisit on yours10:54
kjvarleyYeah it seems to10:55
kjvarleyMy /etc/apache2/envvars http://paste.ubuntu.com/11242834/10:55
diplohttp://askubuntu.com/questions/452042/why-is-my-apache-not-working-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-14-0410:56
kjvarleyI have disabled the default config tho10:57
kjvarleyVia sudo a2dissite 000-default10:57
kjvarleyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11242874/10:59
diploAh, reading another post.. it is because you haven't defined servername apprently10:59
diploadd localhost to servername in apache2.conf or your preferred fqdn11:00
diploI've not had that on mine, odd11:00
diplohttp://serverfault.com/questions/558283/apache2-config-variable-is-not-defined11:02
diploWas the post, mines not set either though11:02
diploBut... I updated today.. not sure if that was a apache update though11:02
diploHmm tis confusing as others are putting down different reasons, your site.conf is set to /var/www or /var/www/html ? as that seems it could be the issue too. Also why I may not have seen it as I change my DocumentRoot to something completely different than /var/www11:04
kjvarleyI'm not using the default config11:07
kjvarleymy web roots are in /srv11:07
kjvarley/srv/domain.localhost/public_html11:08
kjvarleyI've managed to get it to show me something11:08
kjvarleyBut now the magento install is saying invalid PHP version. Saying 5.3.0 or newer...But I'm on 5.611:08
kjvarleyIt's odd11:09
diploDoes sound like something is odd about your install11:12
diplophp -v returns the same ?11:12
kjvarleySorted11:13
kjvarleyAdded this to the virtualhost11:14
kjvarley<Directory />11:14
kjvarley  Options FollowSymLinks11:14
kjvarley  AllowOverride All11:14
kjvarley  Require all granted11:14
kjvarley</Directory>11:14
kjvarleyOoops sorry for the spam...11:14
kjvarleyI think I removed the newrelic php module and that disabled PHP. But that wasn't causing the virtual host issue11:15
kjvarleyFixed now anyway :)11:15
diploThat change is the 2.2 -> 2.4 apache thing I mentioned earlier, but I got a completely different error from memory11:18
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kjvarleyHaha thanks for your help diplo :)11:21
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* diddledan picks his nose15:59
diddledanquiet in here today15:59
popeydavmor2 isn't around, that's why16:00
diddledanaah16:00
zmoylan-pimaybe we could clone davmor2 to davmor3...16:00
diddledanooh good idea16:00
zmoylan-pia backup16:00
zmoylan-pior davmor2 could get an apprentice to fill in for their absences16:02
diddledanso what pet projects are folk working on? I'm personally messing about with polymer webcomponents16:02
diddledanzmoylan-pi: an intern will do a reasonable job plus they never sleep16:03
diddledando interns get paid?16:04
zmoylan-piall the coffee and biscuits they can stomach16:05
zmoylan-pirich tea and digestive biscuits and instant coffee16:05
diddledanlol, chrome's omnibar - I wrote "do interns" and the top suggestion was "do interns get paid?"16:05
zmoylan-pian occasional custard cream...16:05
diddledanI'm assuming a custard tart is something NSFW16:11
zmoylan-pitescos do a very nice custard donut16:11
diddledanthe french refer to custard as "creme anglais"16:11
diddledanas in "english cream"16:12
diddledanone of my polymer webcomponents contributions: http://diddledan.github.io/validate-string/16:13
diddledana utility component16:13
diddledanI even wrote a testsuite for it : http://diddledan.github.io/validate-string/test/16:14
diddledanthat was the first time I have ever done Test Driven Development16:14
diddledanI impressed myself16:15
shaunoo/16:15
diddledanI think I probably would have been bashing my head for longer than I did if I hadn't had the testsuite16:15
diddledanallo shauno16:15
shaunoevening cupcake16:15
diddledanhow are you sweetheart?16:15
shaunohm.  how come it only creeps me out when you do it16:16
diddledanlol16:16
diddledanfor some reason I come-across creepy no matter what I say - it's a gift I guess16:17
shaunoI'm panicking.  or packing.  I'm not sure what the difference is at this point16:17
diddledangoing away?16:17
shaunokinda.  spending 3 days sailing offshore16:18
diddledaneep16:18
diddledanwill you be able to remain civilised (connected)?16:18
shaunoso my bag so far has socks and dramamine16:19
diddledanif there's one thing you want when you're at sea, it's to be intertted16:19
diddledaninternetted*16:19
diddledanyou only need socks - other clothes are overrated16:20
shaunojust one of those "I should have put more thought into this" moments :)16:20
diddledanmay want something waterproof16:20
diddledane.g. a boat16:20
shaunoanyhow, projects .. my pi thing is gathering dust waiting for me to get the faceplate cnc'd16:21
diddledanand probably a rubber ducky for when you fall in16:21
shaunoit mostly works, it just looks like it all fell out of a shoebox and accidentally worked16:22
diddledanlol16:22
shaunothis does seem to be a trend with the pi though.  it's very difficult to do anything that doesn't look like a spider16:23
diddledana dead spider!16:24
diddledanor maybe a colony of dead spiders16:24
shaunoI did get some pigtails to dress it up though.  that's helping a lot16:25
bashrcmorning16:25
shaunoevening bashrc16:27
daftykinshrmm just ordered an Amazon FireTV stick for £20 delivered - should be fun for a tinker17:10
daftykinsespecially with Kodi installed 8D17:10
shaunohm.  pulled two chips and put them Somewhere Safe.  looks like I'll have to order new ones :(17:45
daftykinsdamn.17:50
daftykinsthat'll teach you for being careful!17:50
shaunoI took pics to keep track of which way around they went on the board.  I should have took one of where I put them!17:50
daftykins:D17:57
zmoylan-pidon't worry, once you open the packet the new ones come in, you'll remember :-)18:03
ChunkzZis this a pure uk channel?18:10
daftykinsin what sense?18:11
daftykinsi don't think anyone demands proof of ID ;)18:11
ChunkzZlmao18:11
ChunkzZcan anyone recommend a car for cheap insurance in the uk?18:11
intrbizChunkzZ: http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/insurance/car-insurance-groups/18:14
ChunkzZyeah, not what I was looking for.18:15
daftykinsbrb going to the insurance company next door for help with Ubuntu18:17
daftykins:D18:17
ChunkzZhence why I asked daftykins no need to be an arse18:18
daftykinsoh that's what you meant by pure UK 0o18:19
daftykinsgenuinely that was impossible to understand18:19
daftykinsanyway, calm down - it's called humour18:19
ChunkzZyou're always doing it, funny humour.18:22
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daftykinsah relax.18:23
directhexinsurance groups are silly18:26
directhexmy chevy is a higher group than an identical-model vauxhall, which only differs by badge on the bodywork18:26
daftykinsheh18:27
intrbizone assumes there is more profiling involved that just the mechanics of the car18:31
shaunobookies don't always offer 50/50 odds on a toincoss either.  almost exactly the same deal.  it doesn't depend on logical odds, it depends on the odds of "the house" losing money18:33
intrbizindeed18:34
intrbizor the reality that younger drivers are more likely to crash etc18:34
intrbizalong with people who do it often18:34
daftykinsi could see directhex driving like Ace Ventura18:37
directhex._.18:37
DJonesdaftykins: Erm, do you meam Driving Miss Daisy's chaufeer18:43
daftykins;)18:43
daftykinsi have no data!18:43
shaunowe won't mention daftykins' driving, there was enough stitches last time ;)18:49
daftykinswas that of laughter or the ones in hospital18:52
daftykinsi don't actually have a driving license, never bothered18:52
shaunoyou only need one if you get caught anyway ;)18:53
daftykinsnot many places to run on an island ^_^18:53
shaunoI just got an odd mental picture of the police using the benny hill tune as a siren :|18:54
daftykinsi was told a great story the other day by a guy who had his parked car crashed into by someone18:54
daftykinsthe police phoned him up and asked him to attend his vehicle, then the 18 year old copper tried to get him breathalised18:55
daftykinsfor a parked car :>18:55
shaunohmmm18:56
shaunodevil's advocate: the police don't know the car wasn't moving at the time, and want to rule out that he ran away for fault?18:56
daftykinsnah it would've been along the side of a narrow local street, where cars all park end to end18:57
daftykins*one way street no less18:57
daftykinsbut nah he went into the station and suggested the young PC be educated in the ways of not breathalising someone who was at home18:57
shaunomost my silly police stories are from the states.  like the one who showed up to bust a bride & groom for underaged drinking at a wedding reception18:58
shaunowhich isn't the punchline!  his car got stolen while he was inside =x18:58
daftykinsthe copper or the groom? :D18:59
shaunothe copper18:59
shaunoit takes a very special sense of humour to steal a policecar in a town of <100019:00
daftykinswas it the Blues Brothers?19:00
shaunono :(  just someone else who was drunk at the same party19:00
daftykins:D19:00
shauno(and yes, busted at their own wedding.  one of the sillier side effects of having a 21 agelimit)19:01
daftykins\o/19:01
shaunothe silliest one, naturally, being moving there at 20 and being told you're not old enough to drink anymore19:02
daftykinsthat's pretty silly19:02
KrimZonwhen I run "sudo lshw -C network", what does "*-network DISABLED" actually mean?19:20
KrimZonas in, who or what disabled it and can it be enabled?19:20
KrimZonI'm trying to get atl1e drivers to work for wired lan19:21
daftykinsis the interface down?19:21
KrimZoni think so19:22
KrimZonifdown says the interface isn't configured19:22
intrbizKrimZon: what does `ip link` show as up / down19:25
KrimZonlo up, eth1 down, wlan1 up19:26
KrimZonoh... "sudo ifup eth1" responds "RTNETLINK answers: File exists" "Failed to bring up eth1."19:29
daftykinshttp://serverfault.com/questions/601450/dhclient-what-does-rtnetlink-answers-file-exists-mean19:31
KrimZonaha, fiddling got it to come up19:31
intrbizlooks like eth1 has no link19:32
KrimZonI gave too many things a gateway in /etc/network/interfaces19:36
KrimZonoh it's forgotten its nameservers again19:39
KrimZonI could've sworn I put them in the place where it'd remember19:40
KrimZonI can't figure it out now either... does anybody know?19:43
intrbizKrimZon: dnsmasq or /etc/resolv.conf ?19:45
diddledanfirst minute is some reminiscing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eu23_if6Lw19:46
KrimZonactually, it's right in resolv.conf19:46
KrimZonit can't connect to any non-lan IP now19:53
KrimZonshould "ifconfig" show the gateway if it has one configured?19:54
davmor2we haz t'interwebz19:59
daftykinsdiddledan: typical mac owners, icons along the finder bar as wide as the screen ;)20:01
diddledanlol20:01
shauno:|20:28
diddledanwow, github's api is seriously rate-limited20:30
davmor2popey: you are lucky I'm in Orlando and can't jump in my car ;)20:30
diddledan60 requests per hour for anonymous or 5000 for authenticated20:30
diddledanthat really sucky20:31
diddledanmeans my fix might not be accepted :-( (https://github.com/PolymerElements/iron-doc-viewer/pull/25)20:31
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ali1234popey: i saw an interesting link on xubuntu mailing list today21:09
ali1234http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candle_problem#Glucksberg21:10
ali1234specifically:21:10
ali1234"turning the task into a competition for limited resources can create mild levels of stress"21:10
ali1234"This stress response effectively shuts down the creative thinking and problem solving areas of the brain"21:11
popeyali1234: where'd that come from?21:27
ali1234which part?21:28
popeyjust wondered why you pinged me about that21:28
ali1234popey: because of that thing we talked about on PM a few months ago :)21:28
popeyyou have a way better memory than me :)21:29
popeyalso, combined with my terrible memory21:29

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