[04:41] More almal [05:34] hi inetpro barrydk mazal and others [05:38] More oom [06:36] good mornings [06:56] ohi inetpro [06:57] hi Kilos [06:57] sorry for just fading away last night [06:57] * inetpro decided to go sleep early [06:58] np , better to sleep when you get a chance [06:59] i watched the idiot box most of the time [07:15] morning all [07:29] o/ [07:30] I didn't think vi still got updated, but I got a vi update last night [07:30] xD [07:30] hi there gremble [07:30] dag pieter2627 [07:30] Hey Kilos [07:40] hi ThatGraemeGuy [07:41] lo [07:47] I hate electricity [07:51] you should work for Eskom then [07:52] Eskom has lots of other shit that I dislike even more [07:52] or government [07:52] Like regular working hours [07:52] they both hate electricity and are working on eradicating it [07:52] :P [07:53] They like money more than they dislike electricity [08:01] lol [08:01] now they are talking about 6 new nuke stations [08:03] As long as they do it better than the japanese [08:03] They have big dreams, but that doesn't solve the problem that we have now [08:03] whew they cant even maintain the coal ones properly [08:03] we got years of load shedding ahead [08:03] Yup [08:04] I'm going into the candle making industry [08:04] xD [08:04] there is a cool tesla power thing, but very expensive [08:04] power ball or something [08:05] http://www.itcentralpoint.com/tesla-lets-use-the-sun-to-power-everything-with-powerball [08:17] powerball? :p [08:40] gremble pie [08:40] ai! [08:40] wrong key [08:41] gremble pieter2627 we have a chair for next tuedays meeting, would one of you guys like to have a go at chairing the following one? === ubuntiste-msakni is now known as elacheche [08:55] Kilos: this will be the first meeting that i'll attend [08:57] np if you are planning to stay involved with us you could keep notes of how to do it and then set up when you have the confidence to give it a go [08:58] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/126786-telkom-lte-advanced-network-expanding-to-22-new-suburbs.html [08:59] why not here by me [08:59] sigh [09:38] Hey Everyone. Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but im looking for a small Linux Server e.g. http://zareason.com/shop/Breeze-Server-5880s.html that i can buy in SA. Do you know of any local retailers? Thanks. [09:45] I'm not getting what's so special about that server? [09:45] Looks like any old pc really [09:59] Anyone ever been to Sudan? [10:05] wb CuttingEdge [10:05] ta [10:05] CuttingEdge wb [10:05] you got lost in action [10:23] Nothing special at all really... Just want to know where I can get one in SA (Seems kind of standard to me but can't seem so find :) === MaNI3 is now known as MaNI [10:24] hi Kilos [10:24] hi nuvolari [10:24] hi arnaudmez [10:24] hi inetpro [10:24] hi Squirm [10:27] Maaz google breeze server 5880s for sale in south africa [10:27] Kilos: "Tower Servers - For sale South Africa - Special Deals - FirstShop" http://www.firstshop.co.za/tower-servers-c-90 :: "HP® South Africa | Laptop Computers, Desktops , Printers, Servers ..." http://www8.hp.com/za/en/home.html :: "IBM Products - South Africa" http://www.ibm.com/products/za/en/ :: "Dell homepage - Computers, notebook PCs, printers, servers, and [10:27] ..." http://www.dell.co.za/ :: "Dedicated Server Hosting | Web Server South Africa | Mic… [10:33] Thank you :) [10:33] does that help qwebirc69408 ? [10:34] i see you are here from our site [10:34] you can get here directly with an irc client installed [10:41] I'm browsing now.. I can't seem to find a low-end server with wireless network adapter (Needing to make an Access Point) [10:47] i dont know anything about servers but cant you add a wifi adapter afterward? [10:52] Ya, For sure, But I'm wanting to get a product with everything in one package because I am looking to buy in bulk in the future... [10:52] ok [10:52] just hang around here, maybe someone will have an idea for you [11:00] I am reasonably sure that servers don't come with wifi-adapters as standard [11:01] Because the network speed of wifi is much too low for general server use (hosting data, applications etc) [11:29] Oh, I seee - That does make sense, Although all access to the server will be through wifi anyway so there would need to be a good wireless adapter at some point. Would you recommend having a seperate wireless router? [11:33] That would probably be your best bet, but I am no networking expert. I don't know what technologies are available. I suspect that it would make even more sense to get a switch so that you can have both wireless and wired facilities available in a secure way. [11:59] don't make servers be network equipment [11:59] if you want a wireless AP, use a wireless AP [13:04] oh my , meeting missed [17:15] good evening [17:23] hi inetpro [18:07] hi Kilos [18:07] where's everybody today? [18:07] i dunno [18:09] Kilos: did you miss your meeting today? [18:09] yip [18:10] * Kilos ashamed [18:10] ai! [18:10] * inetpro spying on him :-) [18:10] but so did everyone else [18:10] let me help you just another step further [18:10] go to https://www.google.com/calendar/ [18:10] poor 2 new guys gotta wait 2 more weeks [18:11] Kilos: do you see the calendar there? [18:11] yes [18:12] funny looking calender [18:12] just hang on while I link the fridge's calendar to my calendar [18:12] oh my [18:12] we gonna break the fridge [18:14] ok, let's just make 100% sure [18:14] you see that there's supposed to be a meeting now? [18:14] i see a red line [18:14] Kilos: ? [18:15] yes, and? [18:15] patience man [18:15] and a little red triangle [18:15] no... not that [18:15] ok, looks like we have linked the fridge's calendar here yet [18:16] go to http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/ [18:16] ok [18:16] look at the bottom left, see ICAL XML HTML? [18:17] yes [18:17] now look on the right hand side, see "+Google Calendar"? [18:17] we did ical with thunderbird right? [18:17] yes [18:18] yes i see that [18:18] click on "+Google Calendar" [18:18] now go back to https://www.google.com/calendar/ [18:18] hee hee [18:18] i did [18:18] its there [18:19] cool [18:19] now, next step [18:19] ok [18:20] on the left side under Other Calendars you see the new calendar? [18:20] no [18:20] hmm... [18:20] i see my calenders and other calenders [18:21] what do you see on the left? [18:21] click on other calendars [18:21] i ticked the arrow next to it and see [18:21] now click on the little triangle to the right of the calendar's name [18:21] holidays in za and fridge calender [18:22] fridge calendar [18:22] click on the little triangle to the right of the fridge calendar [18:23] yes [18:23] you see multiple options [18:23] lots ya [18:23] click on edit notifications [18:23] ok [18:23] it says, "No notifications set" [18:24] [18:24] click on "Add a notification" [18:24] yes [18:24] choose Email [18:25] and choose 1 days before the event [18:25] then click save at the top or at the bottom [18:25] wiat a bit [18:26] * inetpro waits [18:26] i ticked popups 30 mins and 10 mins before as well as email [18:27] is that ok [18:27] well [18:27] popup will only help if [18:27] im here ya [18:28] popup will only help if you are on the calendar [18:28] oh [18:28] not very useful [18:28] unless [18:28] will the email still come? [18:28] uh oh [18:28] unless you have a mobile phone that is also linked to your google calendar [18:29] no i dont carry a fone around [18:29] linking the phone is actually very useful [18:29] if you carry it ya [18:29] exactly [18:30] i work with sheep and forests so not good to carry fone [18:30] ai! [18:30] im half way through that forest of those thorn trees [18:30] modern farmers all have a phone with them these days [18:30] ya but they have labourers [18:30] i have me [18:31] even my gardener carries a phone with him [18:31] lolol [18:31] and he even send me a whatsapp message when he needs something [18:31] half the time my fones battery is flat [18:31] hahaha [18:31] they too clever [18:32] no, you don't need to be clever... it is very easy to use these days [18:32] i really dislike whatsapping [18:33] don't worry, that makes two of us [18:33] * inetpro also don't likes google [18:33] one day when im big ill buy a buntu fone and irc on it [18:33] but I use them [18:34] i did too to chat to boet in dubai but only till i got him onto mxit [18:34] ai! [18:34] mixit is even worse [18:34] he is on a course in switzerland now [18:34] mxit pidgin be very lekker [18:34] they are all abusing their powers to fool their users into believing that it's the only option [18:35] thats what i use with tara and ian and debs [18:36] we used IM on open source technologies long before google even started it [18:36] oh i wanted to ask you [18:36] and before mixit came to live [18:36] where is your site? and blog? [18:36] life* [18:36] * inetpro gave up on maintaining his blog long ago [18:37] and your site? [18:37] what is that? [18:37] * inetpro don't really need a site [18:37] one of those things you made me do remember [18:38] hi qwebirc9738 [18:38] you like our site? [18:38] * inetpro don't want to be famous [18:38] nor me [18:38] ai! [18:39] i just want peeps to say hey you remember that old fool that drove us nuts [18:39] ohi superfly [18:39] hi williamk wb [18:40] wb williamk [18:40] Hi Kilos, all [18:40] hows things by you williamk [18:41] Not to bad, sorry I missed the last meet up [18:41] Kilos: actually I made a mistake [18:41] you should rather set this: Daily agenda: Receive an email with your agenda every day at 05:00 in your current time zone. [18:41] its ok we got one next tuesday again [18:42] ai! inetpro [18:42] Kilos: it's on the same page [18:43] i see it [18:43] but every day? [18:43] if there's no meeting it will not send anything [18:43] but it is useful, you'll see [18:43] why dont you put our meets on the fridge too [18:43] ok ill do it [18:44] hmm... [18:44] I think we used to have it there [18:44] fix it [18:44] or maybe it was on its own [18:44] can't remember [18:45] think it was when drubin was still active here [18:45] is that all buntu stuff or locos meets too [18:45] part of the job of ubuntu official members [18:45] oh we dont have any [18:45] yay [18:45] haha [18:46] williamk did you want to know anything? [18:46] now when do we talk about and vote for our next chair? [18:46] you got it in the list [18:47] so i dunno [18:47] I see people are very busy these days... everyone ignoring emails [18:47] yes [18:47] maybe just ignoring me :-) [18:47] lol like you do to me [18:47] ai! [18:47] Kilos, no just would like to attend this more [18:47] jou beurt is jou beurt [18:48] williamk set it so that youre here all the time [18:48] then set it to show afk [18:49] so only when you at the pc peeps will see you active [18:49] can we call for a quick adhoc meeting tomorrow evening? [18:49] or Friday [18:49] or Saturday [18:49] how many do you need for a quorum [18:49] now is good [18:50] or you can send another mail out [18:50] it's better to give at least a day's notice [18:50] saturday night or friday night [18:50] some people get only the daily mail [18:50] ya and some a weekly digest hing [18:51] serious? [18:51] lol someone told me to do that way back when i started here [18:51] whew [18:51] one massive pile on friday i think it was [18:52] now i read and delete mails every hour about [18:57] Good evening! [18:57] hi Mopkop [18:58] Hi Mopkop [18:58] Sorry I have been absent. Had some church stuff to take care of. [18:58] What did I miss? [18:58] um [18:58] ask inetpro [18:59] Did Inet find a chairperson yet? [18:59] um... kilo? [18:59] For the meating I mean. [18:59] nope dont you see the mail? [18:59] ask inetpro? [18:59] haha [18:59] Kilos: Yes, I do that is why I am asking. [19:00] we want guys to step forward i think then he wants us to vote [19:00] inetpro tell him [19:00] inetpro What did I miss? [19:01] Kilos: Set Digest Mode means, " If you turn digest mode on, you'll get posts bundled together (usually one per day but possibly more on busy lists), instead of singly when they're sent. If digest mode is changed from on to off, you may receive one last digest. " [19:02] thats no good [19:02] Kilos: I want us to do it the right way [19:02] yes inetpro thats why i said please tell him what you want to do [19:03] Kilos: it is up to the mailing list administrator to set the frequency [19:03] oh on the calender thig [19:03] thing [19:03] Mopkop: nobody has responded to my email yet [19:04] if nobody responds by tomorrow I will call for a meeting [19:04] ok [19:04] but I was saying earlier we should at least give a day or two notice [19:04] yes [19:05] your first mail went out 2 days ago but take it from today, thats ok too [19:05] because some people subscribe and set divery to digest mode [19:05] delivery* [19:05] peeps dont read mails anymore [19:06] hmm... [19:06] Kilos: why the rush? [19:06] why not set a meet here for sat if no one answers [19:06] well tomorrow is thursday [19:07] I don't mind Saturday, then you can have it without me :-) [19:07] dont leave till tomorrow what you can do today [19:07] oh no thats no good [19:07] haha [19:07] i propose you for chair [19:07] sorry oom... have something happening on Saturday [19:07] must i vote via mail? [19:08] Kilos: you are welcome to vote via email, maybe that will trigger the conversation [19:09] is that how its done [19:10] ai! :-) [19:10] what? [19:10] good enough for me [19:10] williamk you come here to mix with the nutcases [19:10] thats how we vote [19:11] +1 0 -1 [19:11] Kilos: of all the peeps here you should know that we have no rules set in stone here [19:11] only inetpro's rules count [19:11] ya often life changes things [19:12] rules are made to be broken [19:13] Mopkop: you still here? [19:14] inetpro: Yes, I'm here :) [19:14] Where is the agenda again? [19:14] in the topic bar [19:15] Kilos: Got it. Thank You! [19:15] yw [19:15] minutes also used to be there [19:17] i dunno where they are now [19:17] I like how the leadership on here is always trying to get other people to take initiative. That is how they teach us at Uni how church leaders should be :) [19:17] ask the guy that sets the rules [19:18] thats how i became bald [19:18] Kilos: There is a link in the Agenda, I think. [19:18] lol [19:19] as easy as that [19:19] Ki;os, don't mind the nutcases, as long as it works [19:20] lol [19:20] o/ [19:20] hi gremble [19:20] williamk: are you calling us nutcases? [19:20] rofl [19:20] ai! [19:20] wb gremble [19:21] peeps are missing here [19:21] Maaz seen zarw [19:21] Kilos: zarw was last seen 1 year, 9 months, 22 days, 2 hours, 17 minutes and 19 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-08-06 10:04:08 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-05-17 23:49:31 PDT [19:21] Maaz seen wraz [19:21] Kilos: wraz was last seen 24 days, 23 hours, 44 minutes and 46 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-04-25 12:36:56 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-05-12 15:51:25 PDT [19:22] hmm... [19:22] inetpro first sign is denial [19:22] hahaha [19:22] obviously [19:23] If both a sane and an insane person would say that they are sane, then asking them is obviously not a good sanity test [19:24] hi spinza [19:24] you still alive? [19:25] gremble: did you see my tweet about, "The Fascinating Math of How Wrinkles Form" [19:25] I did. I didn't look at it yet [19:26] * inetpro was thinking about gremble when seeing that [19:26] It is not about skin wrinkles though? [19:26] it's about maths [19:27] inetpro thank you for the help with calender reminders [19:27] Kilos: it's a pleasure oom [19:27] hope it works for you [19:27] i nearly forgot to ty then youd sulk for a week [19:28] * Kilos hides [19:28] hmm... [19:28] really? [19:28] * Kilos is not here [19:29] oh ofcourse, he's on the moon [19:29] * inetpro just posted it here for the man on the moon [19:30] hmm... [19:31] 4 new members on the 4th [19:31] at midnight [19:31] sigh [19:32] nice! [19:32] That article was quite interesting [19:34] williamk whats news with the book project [19:34] oh gremble, before I forget again... I wanted to know, why did you remove your wiki page? [19:39] Kilos Jacques set up Booktype ( http://52.10.81.81/ ), people must start using/learning it [19:39] Booktype manual : http://sourcefabric.booktype.pro/booktype-20-for-authors-and-publishers/what-is-booktype/ [19:40] oh no one started yet? [19:40] jacques hasnt been here this week i think' [19:41] Maaz seen jacques_stry [19:41] Kilos: jacques_stry was last seen 2 days, 13 hours, 59 minutes and 50 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-05-17 22:41:22 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-05-18 06:20:56 PDT [19:41] just 4 people registered [19:41] maybe try advertise it more [19:42] tell all you lug peeps to tweet it and fb it [19:43] Kilos: oh wow! [19:43] s/you/your [19:43] what? [19:43] * inetpro only went to read the meeting logs now [19:43] and? [19:43] inetpro: it served no purpose other than being an additional page with irrelevant information. Also, I like to remember where I serve my personal info and limit such activities as much as possible. [19:43] most of the membership board forgot? [19:44] all of them [19:44] gremble: hmm... [19:44] dholbach mailed us after time was over [19:44] I understand [19:44] bad show [19:44] gremble: but I still think you would be an excellent candidate for membership [19:45] inetpro: besides for the fact that I don't like/use ubuntu? :P [19:45] ai! [19:45] Kilos: kick him [19:45] oops... [19:45] he uses linux [19:46] no don't kick him [19:46] lol [19:47] makes for some very interesting conversations here [19:47] lol [19:47] Did any of the network people ending up helping the guy that wanted a wifi server? [19:48] * inetpro missed it [19:48] no idea [19:48]