[00:00] :) [00:00] Etriaph: be sure to talk to Sho_ [00:00] well Ubuntu Documentation: A Unified Approach [00:00] as he is the sparkplug [00:00] on the list at SELF [00:00] very nice, ahoneybun [00:00] * ahoneybun needs to change that ss on his slideshow from kate to konsole [00:00] It would be great to get all flavors sharing docs for sure [00:00] white is not as readable as black [00:01] since much of what we have to document is the same [00:01] black on white vs white on black [00:01] having similar langs is one step [00:02] same place where they are being held is helpful to future contributors and users alike [00:03] yes [00:04] I've been talking to the Lubuntu Docs team about this as well [00:05] excellent [00:05] I just need to get the ball rolling as you say for the other teams to see it is possible and very worth it [00:05] we don't talk enough among the flavors [00:06] true [00:07] I'm trying to improve that [00:07] have true transparent comms [00:09] excellent [00:09] * valorie goes off to dinner [00:11] valorie: https://github.com/petermatulis/serverguide [00:28] * ahoneybun pokes ovidiu-florin as he knows he is awake [00:28] ahoneybun: how do you know that? [00:28] Google+ Post [00:28] :P [00:29] XD [00:29] * ovidiu-florin is trying to install OneDrive with PlayOnLinux [00:29] stalkers [00:29] have you seen the discussion between me and valorie [00:29] ahoneybun: me? [00:30] ovidiu-florin: ^ [00:31] Riddell: I found a page on kubuntu.org that talked about the very very old docs [00:31] does anyone know what happend to JonTheEchidna [00:31] and rgreening [00:33] yofel: or shadeslayer I'll be poking you tomorrow bout helping me setup LP for uploading again [00:34] don't remember who helped me last time [00:34] I'm busy from 10 AM CEST to 9 PM CEST [00:34] so anytime around 9 PM CEST works for me [00:34] ( probably around dinner time I guess )\ [00:35] no clue what that is for me, let me look [00:36] ahoneybun: seems like a long conversation [00:36] thats 3pm for me [00:36] is is still about the stickers? [00:36] or DVDs? [00:36] no the Docs/Manual in RST [00:36] and such [00:36] just asked if you saw it [00:36] I'll be waiting shadeslayer lol [00:36] cool [00:37] I do have the key files on Drive [00:37] 9 - 9:30 should work for me [00:37] so I think I just have to upload them to LP or something [00:37] unless I get caught up in something [00:37] okay [00:37] * ahoneybun looks at socks [00:38] I have a keyFile and a secret.key [00:54] Do we have anyone with bug editing powers in KDE bugtracker? [00:57] #345403 and #345138 are duplicates of #343321 [01:01] Ah NVidia [01:01] How can I not hate you? [01:01] Everything got smaller after installing the drivers [01:02] shadeslayer: Jon is probably busy with college if that's what you wanted to know [01:04] I guess [01:06] I see him tweeting sometimes though :P [01:07] hehe [01:07] Quintasan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhDl5nOw6_A === aaron is now known as Guest69666 === aaron is now known as Guest32030 === aaron is now known as Guest90122 [08:34] Riddell: did you run a merge of experimental for frameworks? [08:55] sitter: no I'm afraid I've not had the opportunity [08:56] Riddell: going to push it then I guess, it's not like it could possibly get any more red [08:56] I, [2015-05-21T10:38:58.917309 #13568] INFO -- : The following repos will have kubuntu_wily_archive pushed: [08:56] attica, extra-cmake-modules, karch [08:56] that's somewhat odd I suppose [08:56] although perhaps maxy merged more experimentals into master already [09:00] I wonder if we maybe should force merge commits for these mass merges [09:00] pottentially makes it easier to diff [09:00] -t [09:02] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/207048292/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.attica-kf5_5.10.0%2Bgit20150521.0858%2B15.04-0_BUILDING.txt.gz [09:03] Oo [09:03] wgrant: ^ has launchpad gotten a new builder? output seems kinda broken [09:05] sitter: yes, PPAs now use vivid's sbuild. The encoding fix is rolling out now. [09:05] ok, groovy :) [09:05] (we're currently doing a test rebuild before we roll out the new sbuild to the Ubuntu builders) === vipw is now known as vip [09:10] Riddell: please setup the wrap-and-sort check hook http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/git-hooks.git/ [09:10] kamoso isn't wrapped -.- [09:25] * sitter wonders why the merger sets NOCI [09:26] not documented, very smart -.- [10:36] so who's gonna do something about the cmake debian build type thing? [10:43] no one it is ⊙﹏⊙ [10:45] sitter: what's wrong with it? [10:46] see debian-kde list... pkg-kde-tools sets buildtype to Debian which we haven't implemented anywhere so we build without relevant no-debug flags [10:46] apparently it all comes down to this bug https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653916 [10:47] Debian bug 653916 in cmake "cmake does not support CPPFLAGS environment variable" [Normal,Open] [10:47] alas, I have no clue where we'd carry the Debian thing in kf5 since ECM does no longer override the build flags [10:48] Pass it in via kf5flags? [10:49] shadeslayer: what's the magic command to make key generation faster? [10:50] Install haveged [10:50] Or something like that [11:48] sitter: Build logs are fixed now. Let us know if you see any issues that might be due to the sbuild upgrade. [11:53] wgrant: will do === aaron is now known as Guest25522 === Guest25522 is now known as ahoneybun [12:36] Hiyas all [12:38] * sick_rimmit waves [12:38] Hi BluesKaj [12:39] Hi sick_rimmit [13:39] is plasma 5.3 in the regular kubuntu-backports yet or is the ppa still needed ? [13:46] bug #1452408 - should we modify the kde-config-systemd to install the so files into /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins or modify the search path? [13:46] bug 1452408 in kde-config-systemd (Ubuntu) "kde-config-systemd doesn't work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1452408 [14:14] BluesKaj: PPA, it won't get into backports [14:15] Quintasan: hm, maybe the pulugin path isn't correctly set during build? qt5 sounds correct [14:16] yofel: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plugins/kcm_systemd.so [14:16] That's probably the problem [14:16] Quintasan: right, all other kcms are in qt5/plugins/ [14:16] The libraries get installed somewhere where the framework doesn't even bother to look. [14:17] Weird thing is that the package doesn't even have any install file. [14:17] yofel, thanks, so it remains a ppa [14:17] I'd check with upstream but I'm busy with AI [14:17] Quintasan: you don't need one if there's only one binary package [14:17] yofel: Well, if it doesn't get installed where you want it to then you probably need it :P [14:18] nah, just set the correct QT_PLUGIN_PATH during build I think [14:19] There was no new release ;_; [14:19] I think -DQT_PLUGIN_INSTALL_DIR would solve the issue [14:20] let me try --with=kf5 [14:20] dh magic <3 [14:21] we have *something* that does the right thing, I'm just not sure what ^^ [14:21] kde4-config --qt-plugins yields the proper path but I don't see any kf5 equivalent [14:22] qtpaths --plugin-dir does that [14:22] k [14:24] -- Installing: /tmp/buildd/kde-config-systemd-1.1.0+git20150330/debian/kde-config-systemd/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kcm_systemd.so [14:24] yep, that helped [14:24] Quintasan: so add pkg-kde-tools and --with=kf5 [14:25] Right. [14:32] KDDA: I'm going away soon and won't be back online until monday evening I'm afraid we won't have time to look at the packaging [14:32] KDDA: but the next step is easy, just run debuild it'll ask for some stuff to be installed, install that and run debuild again [14:32] and then it'll take an age to compile [14:39] Quintasan, yofel: assuming you use pkg-kde-tools (whihc you should) do note that the dhmk include needs to be version /3/ respectively if you use the dh sequencer you have to run it --with kf5 [14:39] I did latter [14:40] getting the wrong plugin path is indicative of you using the kde4 version [14:40] it used neither [14:40] (or of course upstream's cmake foo is crap, in which case that should be fixed ^^) === AndChat|708441 is now known as ahoneybun === aaron is now known as Guest71030 === tazz_ is now known as tazz [17:15] yofel: ping [17:15] KDDA: hm? [17:16] do you know about debuild? [17:16] sure [17:16] Riddell said to run debuild [17:16] but Im hitting an error [17:17] Unmet build dependencies and dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc failed [17:17] it should list which dependencies are missing [17:17] yup [17:17] just install them [17:17] apt-get? [17:18] yep [17:18] or in the build environment? [17:18] wherever you run debuild [17:18] (which should be in the build environment) [17:19] Im on the Amazon box Riddell set me up on [17:19] right, so that should be your build environment at the same time [17:19] Im assuming apt-get would install the packages system wide, but I think it just needs to be in the build environment [17:20] unless you use a chroot, that's the same thing [17:20] is there a flag for debuild to auto install them? [17:20] in its environment? [17:21] no, there's tools like pbuilder that will automatically setup a chroot, install the dependencies there and run debuild there [17:21] but for now just install them system wide [17:21] we'll get to pbuilder later [17:21] his last instruction were "KDDA: but the next step is easy, just run debuild it'll ask for some stuff to be installed, install that and run debuild again" [17:22] so just do it via apt-get? [17:22] yep [17:26] dont want to break the VPS :/ [17:27] the point of them is that they're resettable ;P [17:29] why does digikam need mysql-server ? [17:31] it uses an SQL DB for metadata storage I think [17:31] image meta data? [17:31] I really don't know [17:37] ok done [17:37] rerunning debuild [17:37] seems to be doing something [17:38] do you guys do this on your our machines? [17:38] own [17:39] usually yes [17:40] although for the mass for KDE packages we just let a script prepare the packages, throw everything a PPA and then parse the build logs for problems [17:40] clever [17:41] for fixing those problems we then build on our systems. Some use a prepared chroot, some use pbuilder/pbuilder-dist for clean builds, some sbuild [17:42] pbuilder-dist is an easy way to start [17:43] so is debuild actually compiling the c++ files now? [17:44] debuild runs a sequence of build targets on debian/rules, that file then has the job of building the package (where today most of that is actually taken care of by debhelper sequences, so rules is usually pretty small) [17:45] Im seeing a lot of output! [17:46] yeah, digikam is huge, that'll take a while ^^ [17:46] oh great, plasma has crashed again [17:48] what is KF5ThreadWeaver? [17:51] hummm maybe its nvidia causing these crashes [17:51] if it is it should say nvidia somewhere in the trace.. [17:51] it does [17:51] #12 0x00007f2693de03c8 in glXSwapBuffers () from /usr/lib/nvidia-340/libGL.so.1 [17:52] :S [17:53] there are 51 threads, how do I know which thread caused the crash [17:53] there should only be one that starts with #6 [17:53] sorry 53 [17:54] that's the one where the top is the drkonqi trace symbols, so they're hidden [17:55] oh yes [17:55] Thread 16 [17:55] got [KCrash Handler] in red === adrian is now known as alvesadrian [17:57] yofel: https://paste.kde.org/pe9kh5wl5 [17:57] mean anything to you? [17:59] looks very nvidia to me.. but otherwise no, maybe poke mgraesslin when he's around [18:00] Im on wily by the way === Guest71030 is now known as ahoneybun === aaron is now known as Guest7210 === Guest7210 is now known as ahoneybun [18:50] Man Krita is really coming along. [19:02] Riddell: ping [19:02] ahoneybun: ping [19:11] yea ovidiu-florin? [19:11] ovidiu-florin: Riddell is off until monday [19:12] ca you please send me your phone number? [19:12] including prefix [19:12] thank you to [19:12] yofel: [19:12] ^^ [19:12] yofel: how long should debuild take? [19:12] it is still scrolling output! [19:13] depends on how fast the system is.. [19:13] cmake should print at which percentage of the build process it currently is === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun [19:14] havent seen a percentage [19:15] then the output might be too large [19:16] oh wait [19:16] there is [19:16] [35%] [19:16] this is as bad as windows update! [19:17] hours and hours of bull! [19:17] hm, that ec2 machine is rather slow... [19:18] okay, digikam is huge, but that's still slow [19:18] should have picked a smaller project! [19:20] possibly, but if you later run "debuild -nc" (no-clean) you can skip the compiling while you fix the packaging [19:20] so this should be a one-time thing [19:20] does debuild generate the package too, or is that a separate step? [19:21] debuild calls dpkg-buildpackage, which does everything. You'll see the individual steps later [19:28] so it will create all the packages of binarys and sources? [19:28] right [19:28] nice [19:28] like magic === alvesadrian is now known as adrian [19:31] ovidiu-florin: you pinged me [19:31] ca you please send me your phone number? [19:31] including prefix [19:32] * ahoneybun pokes shadeslayer about his LP account [19:32] for ovidiu-florin? You can reach me on Hangouts [19:32] * ahoneybun has no idea what it would cost him for those long distance calls [19:33] I have skype minutes [19:33] I have no skype [19:33] you don't have to [19:33] do we need to have voice for a reason though [19:35] get an VoIP number [19:35] should be free to call it [19:35] * ahoneybun gives up [19:36] resistance is futile [19:47] you guys ever tried mumble for meetings? [19:51] we did, does work, but I can't say I liked it [19:51] just curious [19:51] open meetings? [19:52] we used mumble for the past release meetings, only this time we decided to do it as part of UOS [19:52] the recordings should be somewhere.. [19:52] Ive seen recordings on google hangouts [20:06] oh we are sucking diesel now [20:06] 72% [20:07] 75 [20:07] 84 [20:08] 91 [20:08] 99 [20:09] eak [20:09] its gone back to 0 [20:10] now it's running "make install", should be pretty fast [20:10] 21% [20:10] so almost there? [20:11] it completed the "build" target successfully, now it's at "install", there's still a bit left [20:21] ahoneybun: ah sorry [20:21] ahoneybun: I'm just too stressed out [20:22] I hope someone else can help out [20:24] its all good shadeslayer don't worry :) [20:24] what are you up to ahoneybun? [20:25] ahoneybun: maybe #ubuntu-devel and/or #ubuntu-packaging [20:25] yippeee its making packages!! [20:25] * KDDA does a wee dance [20:28] lintian is a package checker? [20:29] Basically [20:30] so to package this for 64bit, I need to run this all again on my own system? [20:31] or send it to the build farm? [20:31] what does this mean "out-of-date-standards-version 3.9.5 (current is 3.9.6)"? [20:32] ok so debsign failed, I guess it knows Im not Riddell! [20:33] yofel: where does it store the .deb files? [20:34] in the same place the tarball is at (the .orig.tar.*) [20:35] the easiest way to look up lintian tags is to simply look them up on the web, so google/... for out-of-date-standards-version [20:36] (in our case, you can ignore that tag, that's more for debian) [20:36] KDDA: need to redo keys on LP to upload [20:37] yeah, I need to sort out my public ID [20:37] damn over 600 bucks for 150 flashdrives [20:38] ahoneybun: how big? [20:40] 2GB [20:41] but they are printed with the Kubuntu logo [20:41] still expensive [20:41] I dont really like the kubuntu logo :/ [20:41] 4.42 per unit [20:41] USD [20:41] * KDDA hides [20:42] I wanted to have some for SELF [20:42] * ahoneybun thinks shirts would be cooler and cheaper [20:42] I would love a KDE/Kubuntu shirt [20:42] will they preinstall kubuntu? [20:42] nope [20:42] I think maybe idk [20:42] I know someone who can do that in mass [20:43] 16 or so at a time [20:44] so if I was Jonathan Riddell, what is the next step to get these packages on to the build farm? [20:44] or Harald Sitter [20:46] how many people have the authority to upload packages ? [20:46] I would think Riddell, yofel, sitter to name a few [20:47] ahoneybun: you dont? [20:47] nope [20:50] I work on Docs/The Manual mostly so I would not need it, I poke Riddell to push [20:52] I see [20:53] KDDA: next step would be to verify that the build was correct by looking at the build log, then maybe uploading to a PPA for testing, otherwise directly to the archive [20:54] in your case it would be a PPA [20:54] but what happens for multi arch? [20:54] I think those packages are i386 [20:55] ah right, you have to make a *source only* package with "debuild -S", binaries aren't accepted by launchpad [20:55] the build farm will do the rest [20:55] ah [20:55] nice one [20:57] need to run, someone else will have to help you with uploading ;) [20:57] no problem, thanks for your help === aaron is now known as Guest8727 === Guest8727 is now known as ahoneybun [21:46] ahoneybun: I have the stickers all cut and packed, just need to take the envelope to the PO [21:47] there are only 60 left, so we really should get more printed [21:50] valorie: have you a pic of what they look like? [21:50] hmmm, I think I posted on G+ when jussi sent them to me [21:50] may I see? [21:51] looking === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun [21:54] hmmm, not there [22:03] must be on my phone; getting the backup of that onto this box as we speak [22:13] where can I forward this to: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348085 [22:13] KDE bug 348085 in general "Opening Driver Manager segfaults" [Crash,Unconfirmed] [22:13] we don't have a driver manager, it's a Kubuntu extra [22:16] 86 level trace, wth [22:17] d_ed: looks like a qapt issue to me [22:17] shadeslayer: where do we track that? ^ [22:35] yofel: lunchpad [22:36] d_ed: yofel tbh that looks like a crash in qapt [22:36] #13 0x00007fdc99df3bd6 in QApt::Backend::reloadCache() () from /usr/lib/libqapt.so.2 [22:36] or well, something in QApt that gets down to libapt [22:36] I'll poke apol with it tomorrow [22:37] * shadeslayer goes back into his hidey hole === aaron is now known as ahoneybun [22:58] when running debuild and I get dep errors, is there an easy way to auto install these? [23:12] KDDA: I can't find a photo and have no more time to look [23:12] no problem, was just being nosy [23:18] any devs here?