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| pitti | Good morning | 05:02 |
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| tjaalton | Unknown release wily | 05:30 |
| tjaalton | wth? | 05:30 |
| tjaalton | trying to upload | 05:31 |
| wgrant | tjaalton: What said that? | 05:31 |
| tjaalton | dput | 05:31 |
| tjaalton | -ng | 05:31 |
| wgrant | Sounds like out of date distro-info-data or similar. | 05:32 |
| tjaalton | yeah, upgrading | 05:32 |
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| pitti | infinity: hey! do you happen to remember historic reasons why "mount" is split from util-linux? | 08:14 |
| pitti | infinity: just because of the any vs. linux-any arch:, or something else? | 08:14 |
| infinity | pitti: No idea. You'd have to ask lamont. Or maybe whoever maintained it before lamont. | 08:14 |
| pitti | infinity: thanks | 08:15 |
| infinity | pitti: Given that they're both required/essential, it does seem a bit silly, but is it causing harm? | 08:15 |
| pitti | infinity: ah was considering to merge them, as the split seems unnecessary, and it's making it easier to move stuff around like 'mountpoint' without having to NMU sysvinit again | 08:16 |
| pitti | infinity: so it's more like a "can we clean this up?" question, not really harmful | 08:16 |
| infinity | pitti: That statement didn't make much sense to me. Oh, as in, moving mountpoint from X to Y and having to update a Breaks or Depends in sysvinit? | 08:17 |
| pitti | right | 08:17 |
| infinity | Yeah, mountpoint should be in util-linux, not mount. | 08:17 |
| pitti | infinity: ah, don't get too confused by that; having to update the Breaks: was mostly just what triggered the question why they need to be split in the first place | 08:17 |
| infinity | If I was actually participating in maintainership, I would have noticed that. :/ | 08:18 |
| pitti | right, that's what we need to fix, to get back mountpoint for !linux | 08:18 |
| pitti | and while we're at it, he wondered if we shouldn't just move everythign, and make mount transitional (and then fix the ~ 5 rdepends over time) | 08:18 |
| infinity | pitti: The split may indeed just be about linux and non-linux. Or maybe something more subtle. But it also seems to do no harm to have the split, so I'm a bit "meh" about rocking that boat. | 08:19 |
| infinity | pitti: That said, while I have strong opinions about lots of things, I'm not sure it's worth listening to the opinion of someone who hasn't had time for util-linux in ages. | 08:20 |
| zyga | hmm | 08:27 |
| zyga | sone of the recent updates broke virtualenv -p python3 on wily | 08:27 |
| zyga | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11260203/ | 08:27 |
| zyga | looks like it's in pip-1.5.6 | 08:28 |
| * mgedmin wonders when ubuntu will get a more modern pip version | 08:28 | |
| zyga | hmm | 08:34 |
| zyga | didrocks, barry: ^^ (virtualenv broken on wily, you are the last two uploaders of pip, any ideas?) | 08:35 |
| didrocks | zyga: was it broken on vivid? | 08:37 |
| zyga | didrocks: nope | 08:37 |
| zyga | didrocks: broke yesterday | 08:37 |
| zyga | didrocks: or so | 08:37 |
| zyga | didrocks: I'm on wily since day one, I don't rebuild my virtualenvs every day but I do do it often, so this broke very recently | 08:38 |
| didrocks | zyga: maybe python 3.5? | 08:38 |
| zyga | oh | 08:38 |
| zyga | did we get it now ^_^ | 08:38 |
| * zyga looks | 08:38 | |
| didrocks | seems so, yesterday at midnight | 08:39 |
| zyga | ah | 08:39 |
| zyga | I don't have python3.5 in apt yet at all | 08:39 |
| zyga | so probably not that | 08:39 |
| zyga | or maybe package uploads are out of alignment and it will fix itself with 3.5 | 08:39 |
| zyga | didrocks: do you know if we build the wheel binaries out of the debianinzed packages or from original upstream wheels? | 08:41 |
| didrocks | zyga: that's a question for doko_ I guess | 08:41 |
| zyga | didrocks: thanks | 08:42 |
| didrocks | yw, let's see once he's around | 08:42 |
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| lamont | pitti: I want to say it's just because of any vs linux-any | 10:26 |
| mvo | pitti: hi, just a quick (and maybe silly) question - could autopkgtest for snappy also drive real beagleboneblack with the ssh driver? I would love to have working reboot tests for this as well and wonder how realistic this is | 10:26 |
| lamont | which is much cleaner than the fugly mess it used to be | 10:26 |
| pitti | mvo: yes, should work; I've seen people run tests on a real BB in Austin | 10:27 |
| pitti | mvo: the one thing you need to do is to add the "--- ssh --reboot" parameter (or -r), to tell autopkgtest that it's safe to reboot the testbed (we can't assume this for everything) | 10:28 |
| pitti | lamont: thanks | 10:28 |
| mvo | pitti: nice, I will add that | 10:28 |
| pitti | mvo: (details @ http://www.piware.de/2015/05/autopkgtest-3-14-now-twice-as-rebooty/) | 10:29 |
| mvo | pitti: my other question is that I assume autopkgtest support "embeding", i.e. main autopkgtest builds the deb, runs the tests, installs the new debs into a snappy VM, then fires up a snappy VM using adt that contains the new debs and runs the selftest in the image with the new snappy) | 10:30 |
| mvo | pitti: cool, thanks | 10:30 |
| pitti | mvo: I don't understand that | 10:31 |
| mvo | pitti: sorry | 10:31 |
| pitti | mvo: how is that different from --dsc or --unbuilt-tree? that would build the debs, install them on the testbed, and run the tests | 10:31 |
| mvo | pitti: maybe its not and I'm thinking too complicated :) | 10:31 |
| pitti | mvo: that's assuming --setup-commands 'mount -o remount,rw /' of course (IOW, cheating) | 10:31 |
| pitti | mvo: but, consider that you likely can't build anything *on* snappy, you should do that outside in a proper sbuild or so | 10:32 |
| mvo | pitti: yeah, thats the think, I build/test outside of the snappy image, then want to run the selftest in a snappy image that contains the newly build debs | 10:33 |
| mvo | s/think/thing/ | 10:33 |
| pitti | mvo: so the usual approach would be sbuild -s newsnappy.dsc; adt-run newsnappy_amd64.changes --- ssh ... | 10:33 |
| pitti | mvo: or, more explicitly, adt-run *.deb -B newsnappy.dsc --- ssh ... | 10:33 |
| pitti | running a binary .changes is the same as running all debs in it plus the tests from the .dsc in it | 10:34 |
| mvo | pitti: ok, thanks. I will see what I can do (after lunch :) | 10:34 |
| ah | lamont: thanks for the background info w.r.t mount vs util-linux. | 10:38 |
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| cjwatson | doko: Can you have a look at what's up with gcc* on http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20150521-wily.html (still in progress)? That's a test rebuild of main in scalingstack with modern sbuild. | 13:39 |
| pitti | cjwatson: wohoo! | 13:40 |
| doko | cjwatson, the gcc-4.9-* are replaced by gcc-4-9-cross, working on it | 13:40 |
| cjwatson | If this works out OK we should be able to move all x86 builds into scalingstack in the next week or two. | 13:41 |
| doko | the other one is a mismatch between an alternate b-d and what is actually used for building | 13:43 |
| cjwatson | doko: gcc-5? | 13:43 |
| cjwatson | doko: can you expand on that? | 13:44 |
| barry | zyga, didrocks https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=785787 | 13:45 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 785787 in python-distlib "[REGRESSION] python-distlib == 0.2.0-1 breaks virtualenv and tox" [Normal,Open] | 13:45 |
| didrocks | here we go :) | 13:45 |
| zyga | barry: thanks! | 13:45 |
| doko | cjwatson, gnat-5 gets installed, but gcc is called. should be gnatgcc-5 or gcc-5 | 13:47 |
| cjwatson | doko: old sbuild would have done the same thing though, right? | 13:48 |
| cjwatson | since that's the first in a list of alternates | 13:48 |
| cjwatson | wgrant: shouldn't we be using --resolve-alternatives, though? I had a mental note that we needed that for equivalence with old sbuild but missed it in review | 13:48 |
| doko | yeah, wondering why it showed up now, because it built before. and there is only gnat-5 in main, not gnat-4.9 | 13:49 |
| cjwatson | wgrant: I suspect we'll see some things that are main Build-Depends: package-in-universe | package-in-main that now fail to build, but we'll see | 13:49 |
| cjwatson | doko: seems to be installing roughly the same build-deps, just different versions | 13:55 |
| cjwatson | doko: and lower parallelism because we're making different trade-offs in scalingstack, but I shouldn't have thought that would matter here | 13:57 |
| cjwatson | -checking for x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc... gnatgcc | 13:57 |
| cjwatson | +checking for x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc... gcc | 13:57 |
| cjwatson | doko: aha | 14:00 |
| cjwatson | cjwatson@pepo:~$ dpkg -c gnat-5_5.1.1-5ubuntu4_amd64.deb | grep bin/gnatgcc | 14:00 |
| cjwatson | lrwxrwxrwx root/root 0 2015-05-13 16:41 ./usr/bin/gnatgcc -> gcc-5 | 14:01 |
| cjwatson | cjwatson@pepo:~$ dpkg -c gnat-5_5.1.1-6ubuntu1_amd64.deb | grep bin/gnatgcc | 14:01 |
| cjwatson | lrwxrwxrwx root/root 0 2015-05-19 21:13 ./usr/bin/gnatgcc-5 -> gcc-5 | 14:01 |
| cjwatson | latter presumably more correct but do you perhaps need to take account of it in the build? | 14:01 |
| doko | ahh, I see. I shouldn't rename gnatgcc to gnatgcc-5 then. the gnat packages conflict anyway | 14:02 |
| doko | still waiting for feedback from ludovic brenta, he's very quiet recently | 14:02 |
| cjwatson | you'll presumably need to handle the existing name in order to build a fix :-) | 14:02 |
| doko | yep, or just using gcc-5 | 14:03 |
| doko | hmm, just loged out, and after re-login, the vpn is still active? | 14:12 |
| xnox | yes... it's network manager | 14:13 |
| doko | interesting | 14:13 |
| xnox | doko: so stgraber runs VPNS in their own network namespace as a user-namespace container.... then the vpn is a user process as a whole. | 14:16 |
| cjwatson | tedg: Does the dbus-test-runner failure on http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20150521-wily.html mean anything to you? | 14:40 |
| * tedg clicks | 14:40 | |
| cjwatson | tedg: (this is a test rebuild of main in scalingstack with modern sbuild; the main purpose is just to shake out problems related specifically to those changes before we make all of Ubuntu x86 build that way) | 14:41 |
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| tedg | cjwatson, It looks like a timeout of shutting down dbus. Not sure why scalingstack or sbuild would effect that. | 14:42 |
| tedg | cjwatson, The test harness makes sure the dbus connection closes, or it times out and errors. | 14:43 |
| cjwatson | tedg: I can retry if you think that might help. Is it possible that it just has an unnecessarily low timeout? | 14:43 |
| tedg | cjwatson, Oddly, it's failing on the easiest test case :-) | 14:43 |
| tedg | cjwatson, That would be my guess, but it would be kinda surprising. | 14:43 |
| cjwatson | tedg: The entire build only took 1.5 minutes, so the timeout can't be that long | 14:44 |
| tedg | It is something like 10 seconds. | 14:44 |
| cjwatson | (and that's including build-dep installation and such) | 14:44 |
| cjwatson | it's not running on dedicated hardware, so I suppose it could have been scheduled out if the nodes are overcommitted or something | 14:45 |
| cjwatson | retrying, scored up a bit so we get a chance to recheck soon | 14:45 |
| tedg | cjwatson, Great, thanks! | 14:46 |
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| xnox | doko: i'm toying with boost here.... a no change rebuild with c++11 abi took out source-highlight with undefined symbols throughout. | 15:25 |
| xnox | i'll do more tests, but it seems like we will have pain with boot. | 15:26 |
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| mrmcq2u | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1455845 | 18:12 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1455845 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Pulseaudio sinks nightmare to navigate" [Undecided,New] | 18:12 |
| mrmcq2u | any thoughts? | 18:13 |
| jamespage | please could an archive admin bump python3-greenlet to main in wily - its a binary only movement and is needed for new eventlet | 18:19 |
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| cjwatson | jamespage: done | 20:22 |
| jamespage | cjwatson, ta | 20:37 |
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| Dragonkeeper | hey guys | 23:08 |
| Dragonkeeper | im interested in if there is a way to install ubuntu on no standard hardware lacking a standard bios | 23:09 |
| Dragonkeeper | in this case a chromebook cb3-111 | 23:09 |
| sarnold | Dragonkeeper: the iso images should do 64-bit uefi alright; 32-bit uefi may take more work | 23:27 |
| Dragonkeeper | sarnold: im attempting to use chrubuntu script to boot from usb + seemed my firmware wasnt in dev mode even though the OS was . so see how this goes | 23:29 |
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