| LjL | so uhm. i don't know if i should make a last attempt to settle this in a less than either abrupt or protocollar manner | 01:01 |
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| LjL | i will anyway. phunyguy, do you not at all see your actions as possibly an unwarranted attack on me in #u-o? | 01:02 |
| bazhang | hi LjL | 01:02 |
| bazhang | missed you buddy | 01:03 |
| LjL | and IdleOne, do you not at all appreciate how a consistent requiring one party to "behave" and not the same of other, more in-power, parties (or only when pointed out) as provoking? | 01:03 |
| LjL | bazhang, there are techniques to improve your aim. | 01:03 |
| phunyguy | LjL: I said the first thing, about grudges, etc, but that was meant as a joke. I am sorry if you got offended. I really do sincerely wish you were back in the channels as you, and it wasn't a personal attack. | 01:08 |
| phunyguy | I thought it had been long enough that we could kind of put it behind us. | 01:08 |
| LjL | phunyguy, i have the logs of what was said in front of me. i made a joke where i said erec was petty (and despite you perhaps having your reasons to think i was also calling you petty, i factually wasn't), and you went, "Look, until you stop hiding behind a nick, keep quiet." | 01:13 |
| LjL | is that something about grudges that was meant as a joke? do you think it could have been an honest step to bring me back in the channels? | 01:13 |
| phunyguy | [19:42:34] <A_bee> it's NOT THE PROCEDURE <--- this was actually first. | 01:14 |
| phunyguy | If you want to get factual. | 01:14 |
| LjL | that was ages before it. | 01:14 |
| LjL | but i see you're wanting to get this... procedural indeed. | 01:15 |
| phunyguy | [19:50:57] <phunyguy> why isn't the other you here? | 01:15 |
| phunyguy | [19:51:08] <phunyguy> :< | 01:15 |
| phunyguy | that was sincere | 01:15 |
| phunyguy | not me being a turd. | 01:15 |
| phunyguy | and the "procedural" is all you. You joined this channel to talk about it... we are talking about it. | 01:16 |
| LjL | phunyguy: i can accept that. but could we please concentrate on the escalation of things that happened before i nicked back to LjL`? because if you want to go back ages into logs, i can do that too, but it'd just murk waters. | 01:16 |
| phunyguy | I just want you to not be offended at every thing everyone says. | 01:16 |
| LjL | okay, should you prefer that we talk about this in another venue or manner? | 01:16 |
| phunyguy | I think here is fine. I am sorry for reacting the way I did. I didn't realize what I said hit you that way. | 01:21 |
| LjL | phunyguy: do you see the following reading of what happened as roughly accurate? i made a joke involving #ubuntu, you and erec, involving the word "petty", that you interpreted badly (because you already though i think you're petty? i guess) - so since you haven't accepted the fact i usually join #u-o now as the A_bee alter ego, instead of LjL, you told me i should stop speaking unless i could stop "hiding" behind that nickname, in a somewhat resentful | 01:23 |
| LjL | manner - then i called you "butthurt", and you called me an "asshole", and IdleOne intervened | 01:23 |
| phunyguy | Oh good grief | 01:24 |
| phunyguy | You really think what you said wasn't directed at me? Come on, man. | 01:25 |
| phunyguy | I interpreted it badly after actually being petty. | 01:26 |
| phunyguy | go figure. | 01:26 |
| phunyguy | (petty by your definition anyway) | 01:26 |
| LjL | uhm, what i said was "you, phunyguy and erec because he's petty like that" - that was referring to people in #ubuntu changing their nickname in a spammy manner. | 01:26 |
| phunyguy | yep, still see it as directed at me. | 01:27 |
| LjL | that seems to be your problem. | 01:27 |
| phunyguy | or maybe I am too stupid to follow. | 01:27 |
| phunyguy | considering I mentioned the nickname spam., | 01:28 |
| LjL | the "you" was also another person (SonikkuAmerica), and yet the "petty" didn't seem to refer to him, did it | 01:28 |
| LjL | English is pretty unequivocal about this - you can use pronouns like "they", or "you all" | 01:29 |
| LjL | "he" refers to one person, in that specific case, erec. | 01:29 |
| phunyguy | yep. I am too stupid. | 01:29 |
| phunyguy | UH DURR I AM PHUNYGUY AND I CAN'T ENGLISH. | 01:29 |
| * phunyguy wanders off. | 01:29 | |
| LjL | this doesn't seem constructuve. | 01:29 |
| LjL | !appeal | 01:30 |
| ubottu | If you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay #ubuntu-ops a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page. | 01:30 |
| LjL | I will be sending the IRC Council a note about what happened, with attached logs. If any IRC Council member, or other ops, are willing to chime in with opinions now, i will be around for some more minutes to listen. | 01:30 |
| LjL | I also should point out that since IdleOne doesn't seem to be around now, I haven't discussed his intervention after the incident with phunyguy, but I will also discuss that later with the IRC Council because I'm unhappy with how that was handled. | 01:31 |
| IdleOne | For the record. I asked A_bee to please stop first because the first thing I saw was him calling phunyguy names. I didn't have a chance to ask phunyguy before A_bee pointed out that I had not. Second of all, I have no problem kicking or even banning a fellow op if it is needed and phunyguy is aware of that. I asked them both to stop or I would kick them both. | 03:33 |
| IdleOne | from what I can see in my scroll back it did stop. | 03:33 |
| IdleOne | although my client bugs out sometimes and I lose bits and bites | 03:34 |
| ubottu | ldunn called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic () | 05:49 |
| ubottu | lotuspsychje called the ops in #ubuntu (www-BUKOLAY-com) | 09:19 |
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| === PriceChild is now known as Pricey | ||
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, MY123 said: ubottu, where is your source code? | 14:44 |
| bazhang | @random manjaro HURD | 16:49 |
| ubottu | HURD | 16:49 |
| bazhang | ok then | 16:49 |
| bazhang | manjaro spammer hitting #ubuntu | 16:50 |
| bazhang | the nerve | 16:50 |
| chu | <3 HURD | 16:50 |
| bazhang | you got emacs in my HURD | 16:50 |
| chu | :D | 16:50 |
| bazhang | two great tastes! | 16:50 |
| k1l | it hurds so much | 16:50 |
| bazhang | ouch! | 16:51 |
| bazhang | reeses cups reference above | 16:51 |
| chu | lol | 16:51 |
| === Dave2 is now known as dave | ||
| bazhang | down 2pts! | 17:50 |
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