/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/05/21/#ubuntu-za.txt

mazalMorning everyone , this is interesting : http://www.webupd8.org/2015/05/how-to-hide-files-and-folders-in-your.html 04:46
mazalI never knew that trick04:46
barrydkMore almal04:51
Kiloshi barrydk  and everyone else05:21
Kilosinetpro  it works ty05:28
Kilosoh and morning05:28
Kiloshi mazal  05:50
ThatGraemeGuymoo06:04
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy  06:04
pieter2627morning all06:29
Kilosai!08:04
Kiloshmm...08:32
stickyboyRaise your hand if you have a mug of hot coffee.09:20
stickyboyo/09:20
Kilosaw09:21
Kilosmine only warm09:21
stickyboyAw09:24
Kilosuh oh mazal broke something09:26
ThatGraemeGuylol09:26
SquirmGood day09:29
* Squirm eyes ThatGraemeGuy09:30
ThatGraemeGuyo_O09:30
SquirmLoad Shedding at 12 :/09:32
ThatGraemeGuywe had ours early today09:32
ThatGraemeGuyat work09:33
ThatGraemeGuy16:00 at home :-/09:33
SquirmThatGraemeGuy: what do you think of puppet?09:34
ThatGraemeGuywe use it09:34
SquirmI know09:34
SquirmThat's why I ask :)09:34
ThatGraemeGuyits a steep learning curve09:34
stickyboyMan, crypto is tough.09:34
stickyboySquirm: I use ansible... because it goes over SSH and doesn't need daemons.09:35
Squirmstickyboy: we use it to09:35
ThatGraemeGuyI don't know enough about config management in general to debate the pros and cons of any of them09:35
ThatGraemeGuyit was here when i joined, its still here09:35
SquirmJust curious as to how you find it09:35
ThatGraemeGuyi find it necessary as soon as you're managing more than 5 servers09:36
Squirmstickyboy: ansible is great09:36
ThatGraemeGuybut again, its config management that's necessary, not specifically puppet09:36
SquirmYeah09:36
ThatGraemeGuyi guess i don't really know how to answer your question09:36
SquirmOk09:37
SquirmDon't worry then :P09:37
SquirmI think I need coffee09:37
SquirmMaaz: coffee on09:38
* Maaz washes some mugs09:38
stickyboySquirm: We just put our infrastructure scripts on GitHub last week: https://github.com/ilri/rmg-ansible-public09:39
stickyboyThatGraemeGuy: config management makes me so happy.09:40
Squirmstickyboy: cool. We have a private bitcucket repo09:40
stickyboySquirm: :P09:40
stickyboyOurs is divided into public and private.09:40
stickyboyWe inherit from the private one.09:40
stickyboyOpen by default, yo.09:40
stickyboySomething to strive for. ;)09:40
SquirmI want to put them on github09:40
SquirmWe have a secrets direcotry, where we use ansible-vault to encrypt everything inside09:41
MaazCoffee's ready for Squirm!09:42
SquirmWooo09:42
SquirmCrap - I need coffee now09:42
Squirm20min till load shedding09:42
stickyboySquirm: ansible-vault can encrypt directories? :D09:45
stickyboyWho knew!09:45
stickyboyThe ansible scripts for my personal blog are 100% on GitHub (including SSL private keys): http://github.com/alanorth/ansible-personal09:46
stickyboyI use ansible-vault there for the host_vars.09:46
stickyboyI dislike ansible-vault because it breaks grep. :P09:46
Squirmstickyboy: not really10:02
SquirmUsed find10:02
Squirmand power's out10:05
Squirmme10:05
Squirmmeh10:05
SquirmWe stay up10:05
SquirmThe office is dark10:06
Squirmbbl10:06
Kilossigh10:06
* Padroni waves10:42
Kiloshi Padroni  10:43
Padronihi10:43
Padronihow are you10:43
Kilosgood ty and you?10:43
SquirmSo, we use foreman to generate upstart scipts. When we do a foreman start, in the application directory, the app starts perfectly. When we do a sudo start <app_name>, upstart forks the process many times and uses all available RAM10:44
SquirmBut why!10:44
stickyboySquirm: Blame Canada.10:52
stickyboySquirm: encrypted files breaks the ability to grep to find where you've set things.10:52
stickyboyThat's what I meant earlier.10:53
SquirmOh10:55
Squirmyeah10:55
Squirmbut then you just know where things are :)10:55
stickyboySquirm: I got 40 servers. :)11:12
stickyboyI need to grep to see where I set something heeheh, like which hosts override apt_mirror, or whatever.11:13
Padroniany good php coders here?11:47
PadroniI gots me a question...11:47
ThatGraemeGuyisn't that a bit of an oxymoron?11:48
Padroniin that case, I got a few questions...11:48
Kiloshehe11:49
mazalOk , I want one of two things11:49
Padronihi ThatGraemeGuy11:49
mazalEither 6 beers , or a big hammer11:49
* Padroni does not share beer11:49
KilosTinuva  you the php guy arent you?11:50
mazalK , hand the hammer then :P11:50
Tinuvai know some php11:55
Tinuvanot a guru11:55
KilosPadroni  ask him11:55
Kiloswhen you have a problem just state the problem clearly and hope for the best someone sees it and knows the answer11:57
PadroniTinuva: check your pvt11:57
MaNIpvt, you're doing IRC wrong, if its long just pastebin it and then ask your question where everyone can see it, those best able to help will help when they can :p12:05
PadroniYou asume I will actually go and paste code instead of using pastebin....12:09
Padronishame on you, sir.12:09
Kilosbentohmm... power again, now new modem doesnt want to connect13:36
Kilosbentowbb13:37
Kilossigh14:03
Kiloshmm...14:11
SquirmHome time15:10
Kiloslater Squirm  15:12
SquirmMeh16:06
SquirmLoad Shedding at home now16:06
Kilosai!16:07
MaNI2fun16:18
Kilosand more than 4 more years of it16:21
MaNI2I imagine most of us will have installed systems to work around it within two years16:24
inetprogood evening17:30
Kiloshi inetpro  17:30
inetprohello Kilos17:30
inetprowhat did I miss?17:30
Kilospower offs thats about it17:31
Kilosoh i needed your find capabiliies 17:31
inetprofor?17:32
Kilosthat command the fly gave to put in a site please17:33
inetprooi17:33
inetproKilos: it's just a link17:33
inetproHTML without links is almost useless17:34
inetproso it is just a very normal link to your site17:34
Kilosi want to put the whole thing in my google site17:35
inetproonly difference is that you add the title attribute so the search engines will know what to put as the title17:35
Kilosoh17:36
Kilosi can never find the correct logs17:36
inetproKilos: <a href="http://ubuntu-africa.info/" title="Ubuntu Africa">Ubuntu Africa</a>17:37
Kilosty my pro17:37
inetproin the browser you will just see Ubuntu Africa17:38
inetproa = anchor 17:38
Kiloscool, i have that google site someone made for me, i want to make it work17:39
Kiloshttps://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/ that ok?17:41
inetprohref = Document base URL17:42
Kilosdid i do it wrong?17:43
inetproobviously17:43
Kilosuh oh17:44
inetproin the browser you should see Ubuntu Africa and it should be clickable17:45
inetproKilos: you must edit in code view17:46
Kilosai! whats that17:46
* inetpro has no idea how you do that with a google site17:46
inetpromaybe there is even a widget for it17:47
inetproRTFS17:47
Kilosai!17:47
Kilosnuvolari  ping17:47
Kiloseither him or/and wesley made the site17:48
inetpronee man... just do it!17:48
Kilosi have no idea what you are talking about inetpro  17:49
inetproshow us a screenshot where you edited that ^17:49
Kilospling pling pling all the time and boem boem from pidgin17:49
Kilosmeeting place very busy and im not even following17:49
Kilosoh do you mean it must show as a clickable link17:51
Kilos?17:51
inetproai!17:57
Kilosif i just add spaces either side of the link it should show17:59
superflyinetpro: http://libreboard.com/18:00
inetprosuperfly: hi18:00
inetprohave you moved to it?18:00
superflynot yet, about to install it18:01
inetprodoes it have an android app?18:01
inetprosuperfly: when you say about to install you mean as in on your own infrastructure?18:03
superflyyes, on my own infrastructure18:08
superflyinetpro: I don't know if it has an Android app. Probably not. BUT it wasn't unusable when I tried it out18:08
inetprohmm... you know anyone using it?18:08
superflyNot specifically. I saw it on Google+18:10
superflyinetpro: they use it themselves ;-) http://libreboard.com/boards/MeSsFJaSqeuo9M6bs/libreboard-roadmap18:11
inetprothe basics look very very similar, but keyboard shortcuts and mouse navigation seem different18:11
inetprono checklists18:12
inetprono due dates18:12
superflyhttp://libreboard.com/boards/MeSsFJaSqeuo9M6bs/libreboard-roadmap/8WRaDfPynA8K5pGys18:15
inetproseems slow to me as well, but that could be due to multiple factors18:16
inetprosuperfly: let me know when you've installed on your side, I'll join in to test18:20
superflyinetpro: not going to install it just yet, I'm going to watch and wait for them to finish up checklists first18:21
inetproah... ok18:21
* inetpro also thought to give them a chance to improve a bit18:21
inetprotrello works perfectly for me, at least for now18:22
inetproimport and export between trello and libreboard will also be nice18:23
inetprowhen done18:23
inetproKilos: you coming right?18:25
inetproso who's here for the chairman discussion?18:25
superflyinetpro: I also found this: https://pintask.me/18:25
inetprosuperfly: are you tired of trello? :-)18:26
superflyno, I just prefer an open source solution18:27
superflyjust came across pintask while looking at libreboard18:27
inetproahh, Nested lists looks like a nice feature18:27
Kilosi found a think in the format button that says code but i dont see a change inetpro  18:27
Kiloss/think/thing18:28
Kilosinetpro  https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/18:29
inetproai!18:29
Kilosoh my18:29
Kilossomething changed18:30
inetprosuperfly: the first impression of that looks good18:30
inetprobut I'll stick with trello at least for a bit18:30
Kilosisnt there a last merge to do inetpro  superfly  ?18:31
Kilosthe spelling thing18:31
Kilosor have i missed something again18:32
inetproam just busy getting a few users at the office used to this thing and can't jump around between different systems all the time 18:32
melodiehi all18:34
Kiloshi melodie  18:35
melodieinetpro which one is best? Libreboard, or Kanboard?18:36
melodiehttp://kanboard.net/  vs http://git.libreboard.com/libreboard/libreboard/ ?18:37
inetpromelodie: I have no idea18:37
inetpromelodie: which one do you use?18:37
inetproactually I think I could live with kanboard18:39
inetprolooks very nice and basic to me18:39
inetprobut the others are visually more attractive18:40
melodieinetpro I use a wordpress plugin for now but I would consider moving to something more elaborate18:41
melodiebut not Trello18:41
melodieand as it's not in a hurry I am interested about other's experience with open source kan boards?18:41
inetproI really haven't tried any of them for real projects18:42
melodieinetpro if you do, I'll be interested in your feedback18:43
grembleGood evening18:48
inetpromelodie: I made a note of that 18:48
inetprogremble: hi and wb18:48
inetproKilos: so, what do we say about the meeting18:49
Kilosi havent read18:49
Kilosoh you mean the 20.00?18:49
inetproanyone else interested in doing the chairing next week Tuesday?18:49
Kiloswe can do it, 18:49
inetproor shall we decide tomorrow?18:49
Kilosoh that18:50
melodieinetpro thanks!18:51
inetprosuperfly: I actually enjoy the calendar feature on Trello as well 18:52
inetpropart of the power-ups18:53
melodiepower-ups ? 18:55
melodiesomething you pay for? or what?18:55
Kilosinetpro  https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/18:57
inetpromelodie: I'm not sure what happens when my Trello Gold status runs out, whether those features will fall away18:58
gremblehttps://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/05/africas-worst-new-internet-censorship-law-could-be-coming-south-africa18:58
inetprofor every person you get to join Trello, we'll give you a free month of Trello Gold, up to 12 months18:59
kulelu88they probably do18:59
* Kilos waits18:59
Kilosgremble  kulelu88  https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/19:00
Kilosthat link works hey19:00
inetproKilos: no just change to the correct text 19:01
melodieinetpro you can ask the Trello team about that19:01
inetpronow*19:01
inetpromelodie: not serious19:01
inetproif it's gone, it give me more reason to switch to something else19:01
melodiewhat is not serious ?19:01
melodieyou should switch to something else19:02
melodiebut Trello is nice to try19:02
kulelu88ehh don't be linking me to the source of evil aka google19:02
inetprosorry kulelu8819:02
kulelu88gremble: it's to stop you young guys and your pornhub 19:03
kulelu88I'm kidding inetpro :P19:03
Kilostrello works well19:03
Kilosinetpro   dont understand19:03
grembleThat is indeed a website Kilos 19:03
inetprolol19:03
grembleI've refreshed a few times.. no change19:04
Kilosoh my19:04
grembleI don't know what I'm looking at19:04
Kilosthe background is supposed to change19:04
Kiloswhat do you see19:04
grembleWhite with an incorrectly enclosed anchor tag to take me to the ubuntu-za site19:05
Kilosoh my now you broke it inetpro  19:05
grembleubuntu-africa.info site19:05
gremblesorry19:05
Kilosi mean once you tick the link it must go to the site then refresh must change background19:06
kulelu88it's not broken. it's possibly cached19:06
Kilosit doesnt work so it is broken19:06
grembleFuck ton of JavaScript for such a tiny site19:06
gremblehaha19:06
kulelu88Kilos was using angular and ember for a redirect :D19:06
Kilosgoogle broke it19:07
* Kilos cries19:07
inetproobviously inetpro had everything to do with it19:07
Kilosyes yes19:07
inetproyikes!19:08
Kilosinetpro  fix it19:08
grembleSpeaking of inetpro, I'm going to go make tea and think of a cartoon for the newspaper19:08
Kiloslol19:08
Kilosmr fixit broke it19:08
kulelu88you work for Die Perdeby???? :D19:09
Kilosinetpro  dont sit there smirking. can i delete that code and just put the link there and will the command still work19:09
Kiloshmm...19:09
Kiloslemme try again19:10
kulelu88Kilos: show us the code: pastee.org19:10
Kilosthat one command?19:11
Kilosdon you see it19:11
kulelu88show us the code Kilos 19:11
Kilos<a href="http://ubuntu-africa.info/" title="Ubuntu Africa">Ubuntu Africa</a>19:12
kulelu88there's no other code?19:12
Kilosno thats all then i used the edit function to create a link19:13
kulelu88you already created the link right there19:13
Kilosfrom here https://support.google.com/sites/answer/153196?hl=en19:13
Kilosit didnt light up19:13
kulelu88it should be purple now if you've already clicked on it19:14
inetproKilos: do you see the thing that says <HTML> at the end?19:14
inetproclick it19:14
Kilosoh that code19:15
inetproai!19:15
Kiloshttp://bin.snyman.info/55haj19:16
Kilosnot much19:16
inetprothat is not all of it19:16
kulelu88I don't understand what you guys are struggling with19:17
inetprokulelu88: don't worry, me neither19:17
Kilosthats all that shows when i tick html19:17
gremblekulelu88: It's just Perdeby but yes19:17
Kilosoh my19:17
kulelu88gremble: I need to get a copy and stalk your photo there19:18
inetproKilos: put the code in there and save and see what it does19:18
grembleI'm a copy editor/cartoonist. You wouldn't see my picture in it19:18
gremble:P19:18
Kilosput the code in where19:19
Kilosai!19:19
Kilosyou mean there where that long command is?19:19
grembleAre you guys teaching Kilos to write HTML, remotely?19:20
inetproKilos: the help page you gave us a link to says, "Remove formatting and edit HTML"19:20
Kilosnono he is telling me how to get that command to do its job19:20
inetpro"You can remove the formatting from any part of your page by highlighting the relevant text and clicking this icon."19:20
inetpro"Click the HTML button to edit the HTML on your site. Please keep in mind that we do limit the amount of editing that can be done. Some advanced coding won't work."19:20
inetprowhat is so difficult to understand from that?19:20
inetprowhat superfly gave you is not just any junk piece of text, and is not a command, it is HTML code19:21
Kiloshttp://bin.snyman.info/rswyp19:28
inetprofix it19:28
Kilosoh must i remove the refresh bit19:28
inetprosuperfly: help!19:28
inetprowhere's that grease can of yours?19:28
Kilosai!19:28
kulelu88are you guys trying to make the link into just words and not the actual link?19:28
inetprokulelu88: you guys?19:28
kulelu88I mean Kilos 19:28
Kiloswait a bit and let me try something19:28
kulelu88Kilos: try learning on codecademy.com19:28
superflyKilos: http://htmldog.com/19:28
inetproI'm sure he will get it right with just a little bit of thinking19:28
gremblehtmldog.com is one of the best introductory references to html and css that I have come across19:28
inetproKilos: just try again, before you jump to something else19:28
* inetpro likes the suggestions19:29
inetprojust go to the HTML code where you remove the refresh text and press ENTER and ENTER and paste the code exactly like superfly gave it and save19:29
inetprodon't worry about anything else19:30
inetproremoved*19:30
grembleDoes the site.google thing use some of that newfangled magic to WYSIWYG edit the page?19:30
inetprogremble: exactly19:30
* gremble shudders19:30
Kilossomething changed now, can i just remove the code line19:31
Kiloshttps://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/19:31
inetproKilos: just go to the HTML code where you removed the refresh text and press ENTER and ENTER and paste the code exactly like superfly gave it and save19:31
grembleThat didn't fix it19:32
Kilosbut now above it shows Ubuntu africa and it lights up19:32
inetprogremble: I don't think he read that just yet19:32
inetproKilos: ahh... nou praat ons19:32
Kilosso can i just remove the code now19:33
inetpronow he just needs to find the right place to edit things19:33
Kiloslol19:33
Kilosjulle maak my mal19:33
inetproKilos: it's all yours, you can edit everything there19:33
grembleNow we just have to teach him how to set up an apache config file and he is ready to become a UX Architect19:34
Kilosman what i mean is can i remove the code and the link will still work19:34
inetprotry it and see what it does19:34
grembleKilos: Try it and see what breaks. 19:34
Kilossnap19:34
Kilosyou two are in cohoots19:34
inetpro:-)19:34
Kiloscahoots19:34
grembleWe've self-learnt programming at some time or another19:35
gremble:P19:35
MopkopGood evening friends!19:36
kulelu88how does an Apache config file may you good at user experience? O.o19:36
grembleLearning to program is a lot more fun than learning to fix your car. You can break things while learning and not worry about any consequences19:36
Kiloshmm...19:36
Kilosi Mopkop  19:36
inetproKilos: giving up is the only sure way to fail19:36
gremblekulelu88: Nothing.19:36
Mopkopgremble: I like your style!19:36
inetprowb Mopkop19:36
grembleHaha19:37
MopkopDid I miss the meeting? We had loadshedding.19:37
Kiloseasier to fix cars trucks tractors and forklift trucks19:37
grembleKilos: only after you've done it for a couple of years19:37
superflyMopkop: meeting is next week tuesday19:37
Mopkopsuperfly: Oh, I thought there was one tonight. Did we get a chairperson yet?19:38
Kiloshttps://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/19:38
superflyMopkop: no19:39
inetproMopkop: nobody interested just yet, I guess that means I do the chairing19:39
inetprounless you want to try19:39
Kilosoh gremble  i remembered, this is all to save doing the SEO thing19:39
grembleWhat does search engine optimisation have to do with it?19:40
Kiloswell you couldnt find it by googling ubuntu africa19:40
Kilosyahoo cant find it at all19:40
grembleYou're not. Ubuntu is one of the key elements of african philosophy19:40
grembleSo googling ubuntu africa is going to give you links of that nature19:41
Kilosyes but i wanted this one to show in the list19:41
Kilosit didnt before19:41
grembleDon't think it'll get there without more citations. At least ubuntu-za.org is second if you search "ubuntu africa linux"19:42
Kilosnow the link is in a google sit19:42
superflyA better phrase would probably be "Ubuntu Linux Africa"19:42
Kilose19:42
kulelu88in theory it's a key philosophy. then xenophobia starts19:42
Mopkopinetpro: Oh no, I do not feel comfortable yet. I've only attended one meeting. But I'm sure everyone want you to chair it anyway.19:42
kulelu88+1 superfly 19:42
Kilosok ill try do that19:42
inetprokulelu88: superfly is not available unfortunately19:43
gremblesuperfly: that is actually worse :P19:43
gremblewell, if I search it19:43
kulelu88inetpro: wrong reference19:43
inetprohmm... again :-)19:44
Mopkoplol19:44
kulelu88Somebody needs to proof-read the EFFs documents, "South Africa is one of Africa's largest and fastest growing economies," is a lie 19:45
kulelu88it is large, but not fastest growing19:45
Kiloshttps://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/19:47
* Kilos waits19:47
melodieha ha !19:48
melodiewhat are you going to write there? :)19:48
Kilosthey make me old melodie  19:48
melodiehow is that? 19:48
Kilosjust click Ubuntu Linux Africa19:48
melodiehi kulelu88 : which country in Africa is the fastest growing economically?19:49
grembleNigeria19:49
* Kilos still waiting19:49
melodiegremble ?19:49
kulelu88wrong gremble 19:49
grembleOh?19:49
melodieKilos what are you waiting? the pic is beautiful19:50
inetproKilos: you waiting to grow older?19:50
superflyNigeria is the largest19:50
kulelu88It's the smaller economies that start from bases of nothing. Angola is growing at like 8-10%19:50
superflyI don't know which is the fastest growing19:50
Kilosdoes it change when you refresh19:50
melodieKilos everything works, it seems19:50
Kiloswooo19:50
kulelu88World Bank data should have the accurate estimate19:50
Kilosty melodie  19:51
melodieKilos yes, the image changes19:51
melodieyou need to refresh with Shift+F519:51
grembleOh Nigeria has the largest GDP. I stand corrected. Neat19:51
melodieso you force the browser to refresh it's cache19:51
Kilosah19:51
melodiegremble GDP ?19:51
kulelu88Gross Domestic Product19:52
melodiex y product ?19:52
melodieoh !19:52
Kilosif you tick the rload button it changes for me19:52
Kilosreload19:52
Kilosso now google should find it19:53
melodiewhat is the "Gross Domestic Product" referring to? Over here they use "PIB" which is "inside brut product" (which is as meaningless to me btw)19:53
Kilosnow to teach yahoo and bing19:53
kulelu88It is how much value the economy produces 19:53
Kiloswhat the country produces19:53
Kilosinetpro  are you happy with that now??19:54
inetproKilos: uh, I had a problem with it?19:54
Kiloswell duh!19:55
Kilosnot the site man the link from my site19:55
melodiekulelu88 what is the value supposed to be: exported goods, sum (plus or minus) between exports and imports, or what the people in the country generate as income? 19:56
melodiewhat is it and what should be really considered, for the sake/well-being of the people?19:57
kulelu88shit, I can't recall19:57
kulelu88GDP is just a reflection of production/value, not of equality 19:57
Kilosi think its what we produce for export purposes19:57
Kilosor else every thing we propuce19:58
kulelu88http://www.investorwords.com/2153/GDP.html19:58
Kilosgold platinum veggies and fruit etc19:58
kulelu88total value of final goods and services19:58
melodiehumm20:00
Kilosnight all. sleep tight20:03
inetproKilos: adding the link to your site will be like adding a grain of sand to sandcastle20:04
inetproit will take a bit more to alter search results than that20:04
inetproto a sandcastle*20:04
Kilosyes inetpro   so maybe i must still do the SEO thing20:04
inetproKilos: I wouldn't worry too much about it20:04
Kilosand then google it from  3 browsers every day20:05
inetprowon't help20:05
Kilosyou dont have time to worry20:05
Kilossigh20:05
inetproremember, your results are not the same as other's results20:05
inetprogoogle knows you20:06
Kilosand post the link on twit place and facebook20:06
melodie<Kilos> and then google it from  3 browsers every day || + 1 for inetpro 20:06
melodiewell, Kilos you can do it, but just remove all your cookies 20:06
melodieXD20:06
Kiloslol20:06
inetproKilos: google may even know you better than you know yourself20:06
Kilosya most likely20:06
melodieand change your mac adress with macchanger20:06
melodieand also your ip 20:06
Kilosoo much work20:07
Kilostoo20:07
melodieof course20:07
melodieyou want to know what Google loves : I tell you20:07
Kilostell20:08
melodieI know what Google loves and how they put your words in their search engines20:08
melodiefigure out: they sell adds. then for the final target, the add must be on the pages that they are looking for20:08
Kilosthen just tell them to prioritize ubuntu linux africa20:08
melodieso what do you need to do for that to happen? just write interesting content !20:08
melodieand do that as often as possible20:09
Kiloseish20:09
Kilosyou want me to work more20:09
melodieso with your website, you also need a blog20:09
melodieno, to work intelligently20:09
melodiewhich you do!20:09
Kilosnono i use the guys intelligence20:09
melodiebut for seo you need to write articles and post content20:09
inetprogood night everyone20:09
melodieinetpro good night 20:10
Mopkopinetpro: Lekker slaap!20:10
Kilosnight inetpro  sleep tight20:10
melodieKilos well maybe a planet attached to the website could help?20:10
Kiloswhat kind of planet?20:10
melodiethen all the people joining ubuntu africa would have their content seen there20:10
melodieI show you20:10
melodiehard to find a working one in English right now20:12
melodiehold on, I keep seeking for one20:12
Kilosok20:12
melodiegot one!20:13
melodiehttp://linuxmint.com/planet/index2.php20:13
melodieI miss the word in English20:13
melodiepeople have the link to their blog added there20:13
melodieand when they post, it appears on the planet20:13
Kilosoh20:14
melodiesome provide the full article, some an extract... 20:14
melodiebest would be full articles20:14
Kilosoh like planet.ubuntu.com20:14
melodiehttp://planet.ubuntu.com/20:15
melodieyes !20:15
Kilosill look into that tomorrow20:15
melodie:)20:15
Kilosvery tired now20:15
melodielet me know then20:15
melodiesure, it's late20:15
Kilosty for the help lady20:15
Kilosim here all day when we got power20:16

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