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alkisgupstart needs /sbin in its path to work (/etc/X11/Xsession.d/99upstart). ssh, sudo, lightdm etc all put /sbin in the user's path. `su -` doesn't put it, it uses the values from /etc/login.defs instead of /etc/environment, so one cannot launch upstart if he logged in with `su -`.03:57
alkisgThat affects us in LTSP were we're using our own DM. We can work around it, but it does sound like inconsistent behaviour, should I file a bug against upstart or su?03:58
micahgbased on the man page, sounds like a bug against su04:04
micahgwell, there's at least the bug against su, can't speak for upstart's proper behaviour04:04
alkisgThank you micahg, I'll file a bug against it04:13
alkisgxnox, good morning, I've filed LP #1457730 about what we were talking about 2 days ago, feel free to close it as "won't fix" if you prefer, but I wanted to document it so that I mention why the workaround is needed in the LTSP changelog. I hope you know I appreciate you and thanks for the time you've dedicated in chatting about it with me.04:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1457730 in upstart (Ubuntu) "Upstart packaging conflicts with man Xsession" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145773004:24
pittiGood morning04:29
MirvI wonder if anyone has wily in an lxc working? just checking. I just get "E: Method http has died unexpectedly" when attached and trying apt update :(06:21
Mirvoh, interestingly it's just my lack of lxc skills, but seems like downgrading apt to the previous version works06:30
Mirvs/just/not just/06:30
MirvI filed bug #1457754 , triaging help welcome since I have no idea what's happening in there06:32
ubottubug 1457754 in apt (Ubuntu) ""E: Method http has died unexpectedly" when run under lxc on wily apt 1.0.9.9ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145775406:32
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zequenceCan I request backports from Vivid to Trusty at this time?07:35
zequenceSeems like every time there is a new non-LTS release, you don't really want to backport to the latest non-LTS release07:36
zequenceOnly to the LTS07:36
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zequenceI know in the past you had to backport in the correct order, like Vivid -> Utopic -> Trusyt07:37
zequenceWe might want to do a bunch (The Ubuntu Studio dev team), and we're not really that interested in backporting to Utopic07:41
pittizequence: AFAICS the problem there is primarily to ensure that utopic has a newer version than trusty07:46
pittizequence: otherwise, if you backport to trusty from vivid, install that, and upgrade to utopic there is no version for that package, and it might not even be installable any more07:46
pitti(i. e. conflict because of changed libraries, etc.)07:46
zequencepitti: Ah, right.07:47
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Mirvstgraber: you may not have gotten enough thanks yet for your lxc blog series, so here's +1!08:59
cjwatsontedg: dbus-test-runner/amd64 did build cleanly in the end.  Must have been a race of some kind ...10:00
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Mirvok, that mix of -fPIC/-fPIE patches was not perfect after all11:01
Mirvmitya57: since we need to keep -reduce-relocations not set (so not enforcing) and have -fPIE on arm, do you see any other option out than to actually do what I was already doing, ie keep all of the patches disabled?11:03
mitya57Mirv: I think it's OK to disable them until we find a better way to fix that11:23
mitya57But those patches are applied upstream in 5.4.2 anyway11:23
Mirvso they are11:27
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LocutusOfBorg1Oh bad I can't install xserver-xorg-dev on a clean 14.04.2 machine16:44
LocutusOfBorg1the usual xorg backport, I'm wondering *why* people backport it :)16:44
LocutusOfBorg1giving me bugs like 142476916:44
LocutusOfBorg1so I have bug 1457776, but I can't fix it because of impossibility to satisfy build-depends16:46
ubottubug 1358157 in virtualbox (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1457776 virtualbox-dkms 4.3.10-dfsg-1: virtualbox kernel module failed to build [error: macro "alloc_netdev" requires 4 arguments, but only 3 given]" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135815716:47
LocutusOfBorg1anyway time lo leave16:48
LocutusOfBorg1bye folks16:48
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rcjwgrant, How can I delete an LP git repo created in error https://code.launchpad.net/~rcj/open-vm-tools/+git/open-vm-tools17:22
cjwatsonrcj: You can't yet, but I have approved branches ready to land to fix that.17:31
cjwatsonrcj: Should roll out next week.17:31
cjwatsonrcj: Once it rolls out, there'll be a nice obvious "Delete repository" link at the top right there.17:31
rcjcjwatson, thanks18:46
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taggartkees, cjwatson: does ubuntu use sshd_config DebianBanner?21:31

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