[01:31] <echosystm> i'm trying to add a service to upstart
[01:31] <echosystm> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#id169
[01:31] <echosystm> i follwed these instructions to figure out the number of times the executable forks
[01:31] <echosystm> i don't get 0,1 or 2... i get "3"
[01:32] <echosystm> what do i do?
[01:53] <|aaron> can someone help me out? i really screwed up the mysql packages / installation on my ubuntu 15 box. i was trying to do a clean reinstall,  made the mistake of deleting /etc/mysql.. now any time i try to add or remove mysql related packages apt-get complains about missing config files from the directory.. the only way to get it to run is if i create empty versions of those files... but then after the install is complete my.cnf, mysql.cnf etc are all
[01:53] <|aaron> empty. help!
[05:39] <tch3k> hi
[05:40] <tch3k> i have installed postfix and i want to send email to yahoo account but it can not, i put in relayhost smtp.yahoo.com
[07:06] <OpenTokix> tch3k: what does your mail-log say? - I would assume "relaying not allowed"
[07:07] <OpenTokix> tch3k: Start by configuring your postfix to send directly
[07:28] <tch3k> it says something like my ip address is banned
[07:29] <tch3k> i don't know if it exists free relays so i can't put it in the relayshost field so it will send the mail by it self
[08:14] <stanford_drone> Does anyone know C/C++, Computer Vision/Image Processing, Machine Learning, AI, linux systems programming, or electronics? I'm looking for a programmer to join my Startup. We're going to China (manufacturing is there) from July to November. We're a team of 4. We're building a flying computer. A drone that you can play games with and install apps on.
[08:23] <rbasak> Ah, is it http://erlerobotics.com/blog/product/erle-copter-ubuntu/?
[08:23] <rbasak> That looks nice.
[12:03] <DammitJim> silly question... is it normal that if I set my ubuntu server to do automatic critical updates for the machine to tell me that it needs to be restarted?
[12:03] <DammitJim> it's happened at least twice in the last 3 weeks
[12:12] <rbasak> DammitJim: if you're using unattended-upgrades, you can configure for automatic reboots when required if you like.
[12:13] <rbasak> DammitJim: apart from that, what else do you expect to happen?
[12:13] <DammitJim> rbasak, I guess my question is more with regards to if this is normal?
[12:13] <rbasak> DammitJim: kernel updates are normal, and updating a kernel requires a reboot.
[12:13] <DammitJim> I'm new to Ubuntu with a configuration like this
[12:13] <DammitJim> I understand that kernel updates are normal
[12:14] <DammitJim> but are there that many updates going on all the time?
[12:14] <DammitJim> I don't mind the updates... just trying to figure out what is normal
[12:14] <rbasak> Yes, updates are common.
[12:14] <DammitJim> so that I can have an expectation as to how often I need to schedule a maintenance window
[12:14] <rbasak> If you want to see what's going on, take a look in /var/log/apt/history.log
[12:14] <DammitJim> rbasak, that's very helpful
[12:14] <rbasak> For a given package, you can see its changelog in /usr/share/doc/<package>/changelog.Debian.gz
[12:16] <DammitJim> man, that's a job in itself, huh? to keep up with all the updates that need to be done to the servers...
[12:16] <DammitJim> is there a good URL where "critical" updates are posted?
[12:16] <rbasak> unattended-upgrades works nicely :)
[12:16] <DammitJim> so I know when I definitely need to apply some?
[12:17] <rbasak> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[12:17] <DammitJim> yeah, they sound great... but I don't want my servers rebooting w/o me knowing
[12:17] <DammitJim> thanks! that link is bookmarked!
[12:17] <rbasak> You can configure whether you want automatic updates or not.
[12:17] <rbasak> Also whether you just want security updates or all updates.
[12:17] <rbasak> For example you can set unattended-upgrades to do security updates only, and do manual updates yourself.
[12:17] <rbasak> (for non-security update)
[12:17] <DammitJim> I have security updates only
[12:18] <DammitJim> to be applied automatically
[12:18] <DammitJim> how about the reboot part
[12:18] <DammitJim> can you schedule the reboot to only happen at a specific time?
[12:20] <rbasak> Looks like it, in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
[12:20] <rbasak> Unattended-Upgrade::Automatic-Reboot-Time "02:00";
[12:21] <DammitJim> nice!
[12:22] <DammitJim> separate question... this is a file server... I guess if someone was using something on that file server, they'll just loose connectivity to this samba share
[13:34] <bananapie> can I run a dhcp server without having an IP address on the interface dhcp is listening on?
[13:39] <OpenTokix> bananapie: oh, intresting question. I dont think so. - but try it =)
[14:48] <solo1> i ve a problem with ubuntu server  a raid0 during installation ... referred to grub and how to set it
[14:58] <Pici> [B111[B142111133
[14:58] <Pici> 5aaaaaaaa1[B[B
[14:58] <Pici> err
[14:59] <genii> Pici: Cat typing ?
[15:00] <Pici> genii: putty froze up for a moment.
[16:16] <tarvid> 14.04 how do I restart an interface, I am not getting updates on the aliases
[16:19] <genii> sudo ifconfig eth0:0 down; sudo ifconfig eth0:0 up
[16:22] <tarvid> would be nice if they didn't rename the interfaces
[16:23] <genii> tarvid: You can revert the naming by putting grub option of biosdevname=0
[16:24] <tarvid> trying to avoid a road trip
[16:24] <genii> This is typical with Dell systems that have the Consistent Network Device Naming
[16:27] <tarvid> genii, thanks, you're sharp
[16:28]  * genii makes a fresh pot of coffee and hands out the mugs
[17:55] <tarvid_> dell r310 ubuntu 14.04 em1 not coming up
[18:10] <tarvid_> ifdown  em1 && ifup em1 fails interface em1 not configured
[18:10] <tarvid_> rtnetlink file exists
[18:11] <tarvid_> i need  help
[18:24] <tarvid_> loading iptables rules fail - how do i find out where
[19:01] <Wolfspyre1> Hello gents,
[19:01] <Wolfspyre1> My infrastructure is a mix of ubuntu 12 and 14 lts. I'm working on a motd chef cookbook, which utilizes the update-motd.d paradigm to generate a dynamic motd on login. I'm seeing the dynamic motd file get generated intermittently.
[19:01] <Wolfspyre1> both /etc/pam.d/login and /etc/pam.d/ssh have pam_motd.so included. I've not found a rhyme or reason for when it gets updated and when it doesn't.
[19:02] <Wolfspyre1>  If I didn't want to display real-time ish information at login, it wouldn't REALLY matter that much
[19:02] <Wolfspyre1> and if I can't get this working, I'll likely just have chef generate /etc/motd statically, and rip out the more dynamic things.
[19:02] <Wolfspyre>  I'd _LIKE_ to get to the bottom of the intermittent updates though. Does anyone know how the pam_motd magic works well enough to help me sort out what I'm doing wrong?
[19:03] <Wolfspyre> (appreciate the help, and this channel's existence regardless)
[19:07] <sarnold> Wolfspyre: you may need to modify the individual scripts that update-motd runs
[19:07] <sarnold> Wolfspyre: see the bit about caching output inthe update-motd(5) manpage
[19:09] <Wolfspyre> Hi sarnold. Thanks for the pointer. Lemme look real quick and see if that seems like the culprit.
[19:20] <Wolfspyre>  Hm. I don't THINK that's quite relevant in this case. Chef is currently generating a script which does an echo, then cat <<EOS with a bunch of ascii. I have a few other additional scripts which will have more dynamic data, but this one isn't. I don't think the target /var/run/motd file is being re-generated, as the date hasn't changed. Removing /var/run/motd causes no motd to be displayed at all… so it feels like pam_motd.so 
[19:20] <Wolfspyre> root@ops-c1:~# egrep '^session.*motd' /etc/pam.d/*
[19:20] <Wolfspyre> /etc/pam.d/login:session    optional   pam_motd.so  motd=/var/run/motd
[19:20] <sarnold> don't forget login is used only by *getty-spawned logins...
[19:25] <Wolfspyre> sarnold:  Thanks!  I'
[19:26] <Wolfspyre> d initially had pam_motd.so in sshd, but wasn't specifying motd=/var/run/motd in that entry.
[19:26] <Wolfspyre> now:
[19:26] <sarnold> Wolfspyre: all sorted? :)
[19:26] <Wolfspyre> root@ops-c1:~# egrep '^session.*motd' /etc/pam.d/*
[19:26] <Wolfspyre> /etc/pam.d/login:session    optional   pam_motd.so  motd=/var/run/motd
[19:26] <Wolfspyre> /etc/pam.d/sshd:session    optional     pam_motd.so motd=/var/run/motd
[19:26] <Wolfspyre> that seems to work much closer to the way I'd anticipated.
[19:27] <Wolfspyre> thank you VERY much for pointing me in the right direction. it's sincerely apprecaited.
[19:27] <sarnold> nice :)
[21:17] <jathan> Hello ubuntu-server channel. Does some one know a guide or manual about using OpenStack with Ubuntu please?
[21:43] <dasjoe> jathan: check the official Openstack docs? http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/install-guide/install/apt/content/
[21:44] <jathan> dasjoe: Thanks ;)
[21:46] <dasjoe> Sure :)