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EtriaphAnyone know how to force a window (from a specific application) to take focus when you switch to the desktop it's on?05:40
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xennex81hiya, question. If support for 14.10 ends in July, does that mean the repos will go down too?07:43
xennex81or will it just be "end of updates stream"?07:44
valorieend of updates07:44
valorieeven the very oldest ISOs are still available07:45
xennex81right, and the alternative is 14.04 point 207:47
xennex81shame I don't have UEFI07:49
valoriewhat?07:50
valoriethat causes problems07:50
xennex81I mean for dual booting, the Kubuntu installer can ostensibly install it right alongside the windows loader07:52
xennex81Now I have to use grub, but when I install Windows I won't have grub anymore, so I'll need to put grub on an usb stick prior to installing windows07:53
xennex81I am having a hard time choosing between 14.10, 14.04.2 and 15.04 on this computer, valorie07:58
xennex8115.04 doesn't honour the Oxygen icons I have selected, which is a big problem for me, I cannot really work with the flat icons of Breeze07:58
valorieI wish I was daring enough to go for 15.1007:59
valorieah, I like Breeze07:59
xennex81that is another option07:59
valoriechange is good07:59
xennex81change is better, but it is not good ;-)07:59
xennex81haha07:59
xennex81besides, I haven't been a long Utopic or KDE 4 user ;-)07:59
xennex81I like being in the .10 versions07:59
valorieit all depends on what the change is from, and to08:00
xennex81So I am not yet Tired of KDE 4 look08:00
xennex81or Plasma 4 look08:00
valorieon grub -- yes, windows likes being first08:00
xennex81or Kubuntu 14.10 look08:00
xennex81which is it, lol08:00
xennex81is grub on usb stick a safe way to reboot into Linux?08:01
valorienot sure08:01
xennex81I merely have to do grub-install /dev/sdb08:01
valorie!grub08:01
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub208:01
xennex81thanks08:01
valoriesee the docs for details08:01
xennex81it seems to be as easy as running grub-install from a live session08:05
xennex81I thought it would have required some chrooting or stuff like that :( :)08:05
xennex81going to try to reboot into the stick :)08:07
xennex81ha, guess what, I'm now in Ubuntu Server with kde-plasma-desktop installed :P08:55
xennex81I just don't know what it will do on reboot, whether it will start X08:57
xennex81boom KDE in Ubuntu Server09:05
xennex81and Konqueror is better than Dolphin (thus far)09:06
xennex81just no applications installed, but boohoo09:07
xennex81;-)09:07
xennex81the kubuntu driver manager is kubuntu alone :/ :D09:12
xennex81this is fun09:13
xennex81the driver manager just doesn't proceed :(09:18
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BluesKajHowdy all11:42
omerrajaHello11:44
KlassKlownhi11:45
omerrajadoes anyone know a channel where we can discuss IT business analysis kinda stuff?11:45
xennex81So I installed ubuntu server and then eventually kubuntu-desktop11:50
xennex81as I couldn't get my sound to work, but maybe it would just have needed a reboot11:50
xennex81I installed the nvidia driver from "edgers" PPA11:51
xennex81At this point the Kubuntu driver manager now wants to install it AGAIN not knowing about the already-installed version.11:52
BluesKajxennex81,those are graphics drivers, and will failaftger kernel upgrades because edgers doesn't keep them updated11:53
BluesKajfast enough11:53
xennex81hehe11:53
xennex81the Kubuntu utility didn't work before I had installed kubuntu-desktop11:53
xennex81or I would have used it11:54
xennex81it is now installing 35211:54
BluesKajwell you do need kubuntu-desktop11:54
xennex81(installing 352 from the Kubuntu utility)11:54
xennex81it is fun being in Ubuntu Server but at this point there is not much of a difference anymore, except the initrd11:55
BluesKajdid you revert to 14.10?11:55
xennex81yes this is currently Ubuntu Server 14.10 but I am really planning to install 14.04.211:55
xennex81I just had an ISO lying around (on DVD)11:56
xennex81so this is a test install currently.....11:56
BluesKajxennex81, which nvidia card ?11:56
xennex81it feels much more comfy than 15.04 but not really comfy enough...11:56
xennex81that is GT 64011:57
xennex81I first installed the driver from the nvidia site but it wouldn't install the 32-bit version (driver) because of ..ialibs32 missing?11:57
xennex81I didn't know how to proceed so I went Edgers11:57
xennex8132-bit GLX direct rendering did not work11:58
xennex81I don't know enough about this system, keep skipping steps11:58
xennex81at least I made notes about Edgers11:58
xennex81the 32-bit build environment for the kernel module was not there, I believe.11:59
xennex81ialibs32 was a transitional package that was removed?11:59
xennex81now the network manager icon thinks I am disconnected or have a problem but my internet works fine12:00
BluesKajwhy 32 bit?12:00
xennex81Stream requires 32-bit12:00
xennex81Steam*12:00
BluesKajoh yeah games12:00
xennex81it is a compatibility layer or something like that12:00
BluesKajyou can run 32 bit apps on 64 bit architecture12:01
xennex81the driver from nVidia warned me about it, and it provided an command line option to specify the directory, but I had no idea where to get it from12:01
xennex81or what it was even12:01
xennex81the Edgers thing installs it, and the Kubuntu helper also installs it12:01
xennex81whatever 32 bit libs are required for that12:02
xennex81I believe under the hood it does the same thing as the nVidia driver package, ie. build a kernel module based on existing sources and DKMS12:02
xennex81but the nVidia installer requires you to go to single user mode (or exit the X server)12:02
xennex81then it will disable the nouveau driver and so on12:03
xennex81i still like being on Ubuntu Server, it feels more solid12:03
xennex81but it is almost Kubuntu now12:03
xennex81the installer is great, the textmode installer12:04
xennex81kde-plasma-desktop allows a selection between LightDM and KDM12:05
xennex81almost nothing is installed, ie. I had to install kmix, kdemultimedia, ksnapshot, kdeplasma-addons12:05
BluesKajif you have 64 bit ubuntu-server , multiarch should work , and install kde-userspace12:06
xennex81I think i'm in trouble with the nVidia driver now12:06
xennex81okay12:06
xennex81the driver is now jumping back to Nouveau driver I believe.12:06
xennex81but I'll reboot see what goes.12:07
BluesKajactually I meant kde-workspace12:07
xennex81nvidia driver works as intended, no more notifications/buggings either12:25
xennex81sound also works12:26
xennex81but now Quassel doesn't work12:26
xennex81complains about SQLite missing12:26
xennex81of all things Quassel fails to work...12:28
xennex81this blows my hat off12:29
xennex81oh, config issue with plasma5 probably12:29
xennex81yup :)12:30
xennex81_Quassel is not that amazing, but yeah you gotta have something12:31
xennex81_But now BluesKaj I'm still left with the choice of what to install. I had a ride on Ubuntu Server 14.10 and I like it better than Kubuntu 15.04, but Now I have a Weird INITRD and nothing good is come of Ubuntu Server yet, I've had to install kubuntu-desktop anyway, I just feel safer in Ubuntu-Server but that's all there is to it.12:32
BluesKajxennex81_,  actually I meant install kde-workspace12:33
xennex81_okay12:33
xennex81_it is probably installed right now12:33
BluesKajmaybe not12:33
xennex81it is12:33
xennex81_:)12:33
xennex81_it's put on automatic, so it could have come along with kubuntu-desktop12:34
xennex81_anyway, I feel the richer for it, but I'm gonna get some food12:35
xennex81_be back in 30 I guess12:35
xennex81_I still want to do Server 14.04.212:35
xennex81_and just stick to that for a while12:35
xennex81_I just wish it was a more complete product (everything)12:35
xennex81_I am left always with dangling things12:35
xennex81_such as screenshots not working correctly from KSnapshot12:35
xennex81_I just filed a bug report12:35
xennex81_Oxygen screenshots of a single window do not work12:36
xennex81_as intented, they include a very large border margin due to window decorations, and the option to turn off the window decorations in the screenshot (snapshot) does not work at all.12:36
xennex81_I feel I'm in the midst of a development effort and we're already in a newer version that might work completely different.12:37
xennex81_And now there is also this "Snappy" thing that I feel is going to ruin Ubuntu for a large margin12:37
xennex81_I don't see good on the horizon and Windows has already gone down a pretty dead road... but now Ubuntu might in the end do the same, and then what are we left with?12:38
xennex81_There is scarcely any alternative to Ubuntu and it is not in good hands....12:38
xennex81_sure improvements are nice but.... I see improvements on the horizon all the time that are detriments.12:39
xennex81_python 3 was not even accepted by the community, sqlite 3 was scarcely accepted I believe12:39
xennex81_only PHP is doing well12:39
xennex81_because it blew off the 6 release12:40
xennex81_and stuck to 5, just backporting good stuff12:40
xennex81_people improve stuff in a bad direction, anyway my bananas are gone, I need food ;-)12:41
xennex81_bye12:41
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netrunner_gltron13:15
netrunner_good game13:15
soee:)13:16
mertozbekherkese selam14:18
mertozbekbir sorum olucaktı :)14:22
montana-househi there14:28
montana-housegot a question about kubuntu 14.04, anyone in here that can help?14:28
soeejust ask14:30
montana-housei've been searching the internet for two days now, but I can't find a good tutorial about how to install themes i've downloaded14:30
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montana-houseI got myself 'papirus' theme and icons, but it comes in .zip and it seems I can't get it to work. I've unpacked it but when I add new theme it doesnt work14:32
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montana-houseI pasted it in the hidden .kde folder, under icons14:33
montana-housewhatever I do, can't choose it14:33
montana-houseit's papirus-plasma-theme-master.tar.gz14:35
montana-housealready changed it to .tar.gz14:35
BluesKajmontana-house, I use unp to extract zip files in the terminal , works well ...also you're navigating the file in "install from file" and the theme isn't loading into the theme list?14:36
montana-houseno it isn't loading14:36
BluesKajwhich theme is it, so we can see what's wrong14:37
BluesKajfrom kde-look I assume14:37
montana-housei get the following message: not a valid picto theme14:37
montana-houseit's papirus-plasma-theme-master.tar.gz14:38
montana-housethe icons are papirus icons14:38
montana-househttps://opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Papirus+icon+theme?content=169962&PHPSESSID=a0c13709630d04da9c8836531139824314:38
danger_hi, can anyone tell me how to map Windows+D to display the desktop in Kubuntu and to map pressing the Windows key to open the "K" menu?14:41
montana-housedo you see what is wrong blueskaj?14:46
montana-houseor anyone?14:51
BluesKajmontana-house, having trouble with DL , the adblock is disabled but nothing happens, and i don't want to sign into an acct just foe one apps14:52
BluesKajfor one app14:52
montana-housewell then let's do it in general14:53
montana-houseyou see a nice theme or icon package. It comes in .zip14:53
danger_Just to answer my own question you can do it in system settings under keyboard shortcuts14:53
montana-housewhat can you do next to install it right14:53
montana-housewhich packages do you need to paste in to loading new theme or something14:53
BluesKajmontana-house, system settings>icons>theme click on 'install theme file' , then navigate to where it downloaded, probly ~/Downloads14:55
montana-housethe extracted map?14:56
montana-houseor the .tar.gz?14:56
montana-housedo I need to unpack/extract it first14:56
montana-housebecause in both situations I get the mssg that is not a valid pictotheme14:57
BluesKajextract the tar.gz then you should have a folder with the theme file14:57
BluesKajextract here14:57
BluesKajit will probly extract to /home/user14:57
montana-housecan I extract it in personal?14:58
montana-housedownloads14:58
montana-househow does a theme file look like?14:59
montana-houseindex.theme ??14:59
BluesKajwhat file extensions do you see there15:01
montana-house.svg15:01
omerrajaHello any freelancers here?15:01
montana-housedo I need to download a program to recognize the index.theme file?15:02
montana-housebecause that is the only other file than .svg that's in the map15:02
montana-housefolder15:02
BluesKajsvg would be it15:03
BluesKajafaik15:03
montana-housebut there are like 500 .svg files15:04
montana-houseI think .svg are all the icons in there15:04
BluesKajnormally I stick with the default icon themes in kde , so I'm not really up to speed on icon themes15:05
montana-housedo I need to download gnome tweak tool?15:06
montana-houseI'm such a noob in these things15:06
BluesKajomerraja, freelancers?15:06
montana-housejust started working with kubuntu two days a go15:06
omerrajaBluesKaj people working on there own15:07
omerrajatheir*15:07
BluesKajomerraja, doing what"?15:10
omerrajaanything15:10
BluesKajomerraja, you have the wrong chat, this is for Kubuntu support15:10
omerrajanew to IRC15:11
omerrajasorry15:11
omerraja:x15:11
excalibrCOuld you recommend me a decent alternative calc app. I'm looking for one that has buuilt in unit converter feature15:25
montana-houseis there anyone who can help me with installing themes?15:25
_lore__hi all15:59
_lore__how are you?15:59
_lore__one brief question, I upgraded from kubuntu 14.10 to 15.04 and I have an issue with mouse cursor16:00
_lore__it is not shown at bootstrap16:00
_lore__untill I open a widget or application, like chrome16:01
_lore__I have an old nvidia card (GeForce 9200)16:02
_lore__does anyoune have faced that issue?16:02
_lore__*anyone16:02
BluesKaj_lore__, have you installed the rcommended driver in system settings>driver manager?16:04
_lore__hi BluesKaj16:05
_lore__do you mean nvidia propietary driver?16:05
_lore__I am running nouveau driver16:05
_lore__it was running fine with 14.1016:06
BluesKajhi _lore__  recommended that is16:06
_lore__ok, I will try the propiertary one16:06
BluesKajit's not proprietary16:07
BluesKajif it's in the repos16:07
_lore__thx16:07
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sn33zyhow do i change my dns settings?17:14
sn33zyi mean i found this  https://www.kubuntuforums.net/archive/index.php/t-66269.html  but i cant find the wrench17:20
sn33zynoticing this is dated for kubuntu 13.10... and now im using 15.0417:20
sn33zywoops... so can anyone answer my dns question?17:22
Graf_WesterholtOi!19:15
Graf_WesterholtGoogle Earth “freeze” when I enter Street View. It starts to need more and more RAM until the system hang.19:17
shurtagulso ktorrent isnt starting anything when I add it is anyone else getting this?19:20
OerHeksshurtagul, torrents might take some time to get started.19:23
shurtagulokay.. I did try to force start them, I restarted kubuntu and some stuff. I guess Ill leave them their awhile19:24
OerHeksofficial torrents should start in a minute or so. others i cannot tell, that depends on the availability19:24
OerHeksofficial = http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/19:25
Walexshurtagul: torrents start when some "seeds" are available. no seeds, no start.19:26
WalexGraf_Westerholt: probably depends on browser bugs19:26
Graf_WesterholtWalex, Google Earth is a software, not a Webbrowser.19:27
shurtagulWalex: the torrents have seeds19:31
shurtagulone of them shows 0(2780) the rest show 0(0) but they all have seeds19:32
shurtagulAnd the same ones worked on a different machine19:33
casablancahello19:40
shurtagulupdated them now they all show seeds19:42
casablancahello19:46
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casablancaparties i.e marketing and production management will make a good deal of cash. interested people can email me on artvetica@gmail.com. Thank you.19:56
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juheleHi guys :-)22:49
juheleDoes anybody of you have problems with system lagging after upgrade to Plasma 5?22:50
Ninjahmahsyes juhele23:01
Ninjahmahsi tried using cinnamon on kubuntu to see if was any smoother23:01
Ninjahmahsim now about to reinstall another distro tbh23:02
Ninjahmahskubuntu is great, but this current release is just in need of some work tbh23:02
juheleNinjahmahs: bad news for me. Not sure whether this is Plasma5 problem or distro related.23:03
Ninjahmahshad a lot of app crashes, and when i tried to send debug reports, debug files would not update and i couldnt even send reports without a lot of faffing around so im back to something a little more stable23:04
Ninjahmahsits a bit of both23:04
Ninjahmahsplasma was crashing all over the place for me,23:04
Ninjahmahsjust in general use23:04
Ninjahmahsafter trying to use cinnamon things got really interesting lol23:04
juheleI also have Lubuntu on my other machine and it is fine but too light for me. Used on KDE.23:05
Ninjahmahsyeh im going back to mint for now, maybe even going to try out bbqlinux23:05
Ninjahmahs(using linux mainly to build android) so23:06
Ninjahmahstalking of which, off to reinstall :/23:07
Ninjahmahslol23:07
juheleHmm. I have it as my working OS and chose *buntu because of the large app base - no time to compile apps for me.23:07
Ninjahmahsim not compiling apps, im more on about compiling android os itself23:21
Ninjahmahsfrom source23:21
juheleOk. Posted some details to forum so will see. Hope there will be other solution than changing a distro.23:27
MichaelPIs 15.04 full KF5 Plasma5 or is it still mixed with kde4 ?23:30
juheleI think that 15.04 has full Plasma 523:36
Ninjahmahsplasma 5 and kde23:37
Ninjahmahsdoesnt plasma sit on kde?23:37
juheleI think that Plasma is desktop for KDE23:39
juhelehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_Plasma_423:41
MichaelPNetrunner 16 is plasma 5. But it still using kde.baseapps4.. Netrunner 16 comes from kubuntu 15.04 so it not full kf5 plasma523:43
juheleok, good night guys. :-)23:44
MichaelPjust realised that23:44
Ninjahmahslater, im off to reinstall23:44
MichaelPreinstall always full23:45
MichaelPfun23:45
Ninjahmahstbh23:45
Ninjahmahsi dont even know i want mint on23:45
Ninjahmahsbut kubuntus been acting up a lot from begining and when i put cinnamon on top its just gotten stressful lol23:46
MichaelPI alway spend time trying get vlc play video's right.. Then today i realised.. Ati vlc linux don't like 1080 video's to well23:47
Ninjahmahsi was gonna try out an arch distro bbqlinux but it would mean learning so much again23:47
MichaelPArch not hard23:47
Ninjahmahsprobably not23:47
Ninjahmahsuntil everyone your talking to about android compile issues cant help cos they only know ubuntu23:48
NinjahmahsXD23:48
MichaelPi do arch install in about 20 minutes23:48
Ninjahmahsits not the install im worried about23:48
Ninjahmahsi know google can save all but23:48
Ninjahmahsright im out, putting mint on, then gonna look at bbq dload and maybe try it out on a live boot23:49
Ninjahmahspeace23:49
MichaelPthere irc cannel can be full of ass's alot times23:49
Ninjahmahslol23:50
Ninjahmahssounds like open source channels in general23:50
Ninjahmahs:P23:50
Ninjahmahsyou find great people23:50
Ninjahmahsthen you find complete dbaggery23:50
MichaelPyeah true... but a lot of them say read the wiki23:50
Ninjahmahslike you didnt get to the irc after reading half a tonne of wiki23:51
Ninjahmahs laters23:51
Ninjahmahs:P23:51
MichaelPright23:51
MichaelPhave fun23:51
Ninjahmahsthanks lol23:51

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