[06:13] <Kilos> morning all
[07:32] <Kilos> hi  Tonberry  
[07:33] <Kilos> hi georgelappies  
[07:34] <georgelappies> hi Kilos, how are you doing?
[07:34] <Kilos> good ty georgelappies  and you?
[07:34] <georgelappies> good thanks :)
[07:34] <Kilos> better with me i think, im here every day
[07:34] <Kilos> hehe
[07:35] <Tonberry> hi
[07:37] <georgelappies> lol, was on leave down at the coast for two weeks :)
[07:37] <Kilos> lekker
[07:38] <georgelappies> yeah was needed
[07:38] <Kilos> i miss the beach
[07:38] <Kilos> much warmer than here
[07:38] <Kilos> even this poor sun is diluted through the polution
[09:48] <Langjan> Hi Kilos 
[09:48] <Kilos> hi Langjan  ek sal nie vra nie
[09:48] <Kilos> gaan dit goed?
[09:49] <Langjan> Als wel dankie
[09:49] <Langjan> en met jou?
[09:49] <Kilos> mooi
[09:49] <Kilos> ook goed dankie net die koue is nie vir my nie
[09:49] <Langjan> ek wys net 'n vriend hoe naby hulp is
[09:50] <Kilos> ah
[09:50] <Langjan> koue ook nie vir my nie maar hier nog lekker 
[09:50] <Langjan> sy naam is Kobus
[09:50] <Kilos> sjoe
[09:50] <Kilos> dag kobus
[09:50] <Langjan> kobus se jy moet warmbad-toe kom
[09:50] <Kilos> jy is altyd welkom om hulp hier te vra
[09:51] <Kilos> lol
[09:51] <Langjan> vanoggend was 13 grade, en by julle? 
[09:52] <Kilos> 7
[09:52] <Langjan> eish!
[09:52] <Langjan> brrrr
[09:52] <Kilos> lol ja dis nie lekker nie
[09:52] <Langjan> OK Kilos  ek gaan groet, mooi loop en geniet die dag 
[09:53] <Kilos> selle daar my vriend
[09:53] <Langjan> dankie
[10:11] <Mopkop> Hello!
[10:42] <gremble> o/
[10:42] <Kilos> hi gremble  
[10:58] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[10:58] <gremble> How are you?
[10:59] <Kilos> good ty and you ?
[11:01] <gremble> I am well thanks you
[12:00] <Squirm> Afternoon
[12:00] <gremble> hry Squirm 
[12:00] <Squirm> Hurry when gremble? ;)
[12:01] <Squirm> :P
[12:02] <gremble> All the time
[12:04] <gremble> These rodents are in such a hurry that when they stop for too long they die https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscan_shrew
[12:09] <Kilos> lol
[12:10] <Kilos> we are having a rat plague atm
[12:17] <MaNI> time to get some pet owls
[12:19] <Kilos> there are a few around, but rats are in ceilings and every store, 
[12:19] <MaNI> where are you? :p
[12:19] <Kilos> eat my strawberries before they are fully ripe, grrr
[12:19] <Kilos> west of pta
[12:37] <gremble> Kilos: Get yourself a big stick and go hunt them
[12:37] <gremble> Just don't use poison
[12:37] <gremble> It'll kill your snakes and birds of prey
[12:38] <Kilos> there is a differerent poison now that makes them bleed to death, i think that one is ok for anything that eats the carcases
[12:38] <MaNI> more cats :p
[12:39] <Kilos> na they stupid things, they stand and meow for milk and cat food then sleep all night
[12:39] <Kilos> rather chase birds
[12:40] <gremble> Rats tend to be big for house cats.
[12:43] <gremble> Kilos: poison sometimes leave residue in the bodies so I wouldn't trust it. Kill the rats also don't really allow for control of the population. If you kill the rats that control the territory, others just move in. A better idea would be to catch them and steralise the males I think. (which would be reasonably easy)
[12:43] <Kilos> only cats that kill rats are those you dont feed
[12:45] <Kilos> hahaha im not going to all that trouble, we found some good stuff, but i think its also been banned now
[12:45] <Kilos> rat glue
[12:45] <Kilos> you spread it on a plank and put some cheese in the middle, they stick to glue and one can use a hammer
[12:45] <Kilos> hehe
[12:46] <Kilos> and rat traps catch many too
[12:46] <gremble> Alright then...
[12:46] <Kilos> very gluey glue
[12:46] <Squirm> Squash time
[12:46] <Squirm> *gone
[12:47] <Kilos> if you put your hand in it you lift the whole plank
[12:47] <MaNI> real cats not wussie ones :p
[12:47] <MaNI> or lock them in the ceiling and don't let them out until they've manned up :p
[12:47] <Kilos> lol
[12:48] <Kilos> these are meneer rats, they eat half the plastic handle off a screwdriver
[12:49] <MaNI> haha
[12:57] <gremble> In Alexandria there is a problem with rats killing and mutilating children
[12:58] <gremble> Rats are a bigger issue than we would like to think them to be
[13:03] <Kilos> i nkow they are a bad pest, eat the plastic off electric wiring and so on in the ceiling and eat holes in ceiling to get down into house
[13:03] <MaNI> yeah apparently fear of owls and delibritely poisoning them isn't helping either 
[13:03] <Kilos> terrible things
[13:05] <Kilos> there arent enough owls. one rat every 2 days or so does nothing to cut them down
[13:05] <Kilos> i think they can have about a dozen babies at a time
[13:05] <Kilos> worse than pigs
[13:07] <gremble> Pest control is not necessarily about killing them faster than they reproduce. If that was the only way we had at our disposal, rats have won already
[13:08] <Kilos> we need pied pipers
[13:16] <gremble> To lead away the children?
[13:16] <Kilos> no man the rats
[13:17] <Kilos> didnt the pied piper of hamalin lead the rats away?
[13:17] <Kilos> hamelin
[13:17] <Kilos> that place
[13:17] <Kilos> Maaz  google pied piper of hamelin
[13:17] <Maaz> Kilos: "Pied Piper of Hamelin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pied_Piper_of_Hamelin :: "Robert Browning: the Pied Piper of Hamelin: the complete text" http://www.indiana.edu/~librcsd/etext/piper/text.html :: "The Disturbing True Story of the Pied Piper of Hamelin | Ancient ..." http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends
[13:17] <Maaz> /disturbing-true-story-pied-piper-hamelin-001969 :: "Pied Piper of Hameln" http://www.pitt.edu/~dash…
[13:29] <gremble> He stole the children too
[13:30] <gremble> :P
[13:30] <Kilos> oh ok
[13:30] <Kilos> lol
[13:44] <Kilos> http://archive.linuxgizmos.com/ubuntu-based-netbook-hits-south-africa-at-188/
[13:44] <Kilos> who is gonna remember that next time someone asks
[13:45] <Kilos> eish , so tiny
[14:55] <gremble> Apparently you can get certification to write XML
[17:37] <Kilos> grrrr power went for a while
[17:54] <Kilos> ohi superfly  
[17:54] <Kilos> hi alphad  
[17:54] <Kilos> and ambo  
[17:54] <Kilos> no grumpy pro here tonight
[17:57] <Kilos> night shift ThatGraemeGuy  ?
[17:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> minetesting
[17:58] <Kilos> lekker
[18:16] <stickyboy> Anyone like Studio Ghibli?
[18:28] <stickyboy> https://gist.github.com/tqbf/be58d2d39690c3b366ad#file-gistfile1-md
[18:28] <stickyboy> Recommended Crypto for 2015.
[18:28] <Kilos> hi stickyboy  
[18:29] <stickyboy> Kilos: Yo
[18:57] <inetpro> uh
[18:57] <inetpro> good evening
[18:57] <Kilos> hi there inetpro  you nearly in time
[18:57] <inetpro> for?
[18:57] <captine> hi therehi all
[18:57] <Kilos> wait and see
[18:57] <Kilos> hi captine  
[18:58] <captine> eish.  guys.  i am at a loss.  machine i am on has busted cd-drive.  Apple doesnt allow USB booting and external cd-drive didnt work..  check this log that i was wanting to reinstall to fix.
[18:58] <captine> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11311958/
[19:00] <captine> looks like a bug exists...  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/1435593
[19:00] <Kilos> Maaz  kilos.newblog is <reply> http://kilosubuntu.blogspot.com
[19:00] <Maaz> Kilos: I already know stuff about kilos.newblog
[19:00] <Kilos> ai
[19:01] <Kilos> easiest is to try borrow another dvd drive or maybe an external
[19:02] <Kilos> i dunno if apples can boot from usb
[19:03] <Kilos> inetpro  http://kilosubuntu.blogspot.com
[19:04] <Kilos> oh my sorry captine  i just read all the story
[19:06] <captine> np
[19:06] <captine> need to look for second hand lenovo
[19:06] <Kilos> captine  have you got synaptic on there?
[19:06] <captine> yip
[19:07] <Kilos> try i think in edit there is a choice called fix broken
[19:11] <Kilos> tell me what you see captine  
[19:11] <captine> fix broken claims success
[19:11] <captine> however, tzdata still an issue
[19:11] <captine> might be something broken with my python
[19:11] <Kilos> try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:11] <captine> just cannot apt-get upgrade or install etc
[19:12] <Kilos> oh
[19:12] <Kilos> hmm... i had that prob once
[19:13] <captine> that command give me.
[19:13] <captine> Can't locate POSIX.pm in @INC (you may need to install the POSIX module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/i386-linux-gnu/perl/5.20.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.20.1 /usr/lib/i
[19:13] <Kilos> no that rings a bell but it wasnt the cure iirc
[19:13] <captine> meant perl not python
[19:13] <captine> lol
[19:13] <Kilos> hmm...
[19:14] <Kilos> where are the clever guys when you need them
[19:14] <captine> dont stress.. going to try external cd drive again.  am hoping the usb port was just not strong enough to power it fully
[19:15] <Kilos> i would do sudo touch /forcefsck and reboot and watch what it finds
[19:15] <Kilos> hasnt the cable got 2 plugs at one end
[19:21] <captine> yip
[19:21] <captine> onlu used the one
[19:21] <captine> lol
[19:21] <Kilos> lol the second one is there for more power and also increases spead
[19:22] <captine> when i do "locate POSIX.pm"  i get a location, however the file is not visible in the folder
[19:22] <captine> anyhow, need to get some sleep.  thanks for the help.  will be back asap
[19:23] <captine> night all
[19:23] <Kilos> hight captine  
[19:32] <stickyboy> Wow, look at Kilos giving fsck advice. :P
[19:32] <Kilos> lol
[19:32] <Kilos> everyone fights me when i give that
[19:32] <stickyboy> Nah, that's fine. hehe.
[19:32] <Kilos> why didnt you help stickyboy  
[19:33] <stickyboy> I wasn't here.
[19:33] <stickyboy> hehe
[19:33] <Kilos> i dont remember how i cured that prob
[19:34] <stickyboy> I'm scared of dpkg.
[19:35] <Kilos> dpkg --congigure -a has helped me a few times
[19:39] <Kilos> stickyboy  go see my new blog man
[19:39] <Kilos> http://kilosubuntu.blogspot.com
[19:45] <stickyboy> Kilos: Oh wow, congrats.
[19:45] <Kilos> ty
[19:45] <Kilos> im getting there
[19:45] <Kilos> now bed time
[19:45] <stickyboy> Kilos: `dpkg --configure -a` is definitely helpful. Sometimes it gets ugly though.
[19:46] <Kilos> night all of you. sleep tight
[19:46] <gremble> Good night Kilos