[09:40] <brunch875> QUESTION: Where's the Qt SDK Maintenance tool located for the ubuntu-sdk?
[09:40] <brunch875> I can't seem to find it anywhere!
[11:14] <brunch875> Actually, ignore my question. I've just figured out these instructions are just wrong.
[11:18] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, I commented on https://code.launchpad.net/~uriboni/webbrowser-app/find-in-page/+merge/258225
[11:27] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: will address soon, thanks
[11:49] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: do you know why the tabs model reshuffles the order of tabs when calling setCurrent instead of keeping the order and keeping track of the current index ?
[11:50] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: it makes it really hard to do backwards navigation among tabs
[11:50] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, that’s by design, the current tab is always at the top of the stack
[11:52] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok, but that way we can't really do proper bi directional navigation in the tab list, can we ?
[11:52] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, not really, indeed
[11:52] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i will leave that out for now then. kind of annoying, but i guess ok for the moment
[11:53] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, yeah, it’s ok to leave it out for the moment, until we figure out something. Note that the tab stack metaphor won’t work on desktop, so the model will need to be updated anyway
[11:53] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: that's what i thought too
[11:53] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok, let's leave it for later
[11:55] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: also, does it make sense to you that we can't have more than one "new tab" page open at the same time, at least on the device ? right now you can create a ton of these, but i don't see the point, and it makes navigation confusing because they are all the same
[11:56] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, fixed by https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/webbrowser-app/newTabRefactoring/+merge/247498 :)
[11:56] <oSoMoN> (it made no sense indeed)
[12:17] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: I merged https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/webbrowser-app/newTabRefactoring/+merge/247498 but it is still possible to open several instances of the "new tab" page
[13:00] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, you mean several new blank tabs? yes, that’s intended. What Riccardo’s branch fixes is the fact that there were several instances of the NewTabView component, one for each blank tab, now there is only one global instance
[13:24] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok, so by design the user is allowed to have any number of indistinguishable "new tab" tabs open at the same time ?
[13:25] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, yes, or rather, the design spec doesn’t mention anything about that, so the implementation is authoritative
[13:25] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, feel free to start a discussion with design about that
[13:25] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok
[13:27] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: who is the browser UX person these days ? Olga ?
[13:29] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, James Mulholland
[17:12] <brunch875> ahooooy!
[20:45] <EdwardMorbius> hello, how can I bring back the Music application, I accidentally "uninstalled" it via Store and now it disappeared even though in the Store says installed-uninstall/open
[20:46] <ahayzen_> EdwardMorbius, you should be able to install it via the store, try closing the store and searching for "Music" again sometimes it gets out of sync
[20:47] <EdwardMorbius> ahayzen_ tried refreshing the store and closing it, still the same :(
[20:48] <EdwardMorbius> Is it possible an application can get corrupt or something? I suddenly started having a whole lot of problems with Music application
[20:48] <ahayzen_> weird, so it says it is installed but then won't open?
[20:48] <ahayzen_> if your mediascanner gets confused yeah :/
[20:49] <EdwardMorbius> ugh so its mediascanner issue again, had one before but it didnt give me this much trouble, it was just some tags messed up
[20:49] <ahayzen_> EdwardMorbius, have you got developer mode enabled so you can see the logs?
[20:49] <EdwardMorbius> now Music doesnt show correct song name when skipping track or outright crashes
[20:49] <EdwardMorbius> ahayzen_ no but I can enable it
[20:51] <EdwardMorbius> I will try rebooting the phone first to see if it "fixes" the store issue
[20:51] <ahayzen_> it would be useful if you could copy the music-app log to pastebin and i'll take a look, it should be in /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/application-click-com.ubuntu.music_music_2.1.857.log
[20:52] <EdwardMorbius> phone now rebooting, I will see about the log.
[20:52] <ahayzen_> thanks
[20:53] <EdwardMorbius> lol music is now opening
[20:53] <ahayzen_> \o/
[20:53]  * ahayzen_ bets it was mediascanner with a locked db
[20:54] <EdwardMorbius> but unfortunately I doubt this solved my other issues
[20:54] <EdwardMorbius> with weird Music behavior
[20:54] <ahayzen_> such as?
[20:54] <EdwardMorbius> now it shows I have 1 artist
[20:54] <EdwardMorbius> as for problems I experienced lately its song name not changing sometimes when skipping track
[20:54] <EdwardMorbius> or when you tap on an artist it shows 0 albums
[20:54] <EdwardMorbius> you go back and tap again and albums appear
[20:54] <ahayzen_> ah you reported that bug?
[20:55] <EdwardMorbius> yes
[20:55] <ahayzen_> i was just literally discussing that with someone lol
[20:55] <EdwardMorbius> https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1458268
[20:55] <ahayzen_> EdwardMorbius, do you mind copying the music-app log, mediascanner and media-hub logs all to separate pastebins ?
[20:56] <EdwardMorbius> ok hold on I need to turn on the developer mode
[20:58] <EdwardMorbius> should I use Logviewer for that or?
[20:58] <EdwardMorbius> I usually copied the log via terminal and emailed it to myself XD
[20:59] <ahayzen_> if you find the path names in terminal you can then do this to move the file onto your machine $ adb pull /path/to/log /pc/destination
[21:00] <ahayzen_> so eg $ adb pull /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/application-click-com.ubuntu.music_music_2.1.857.log /tmp/music_app.log
[21:00] <EdwardMorbius> thanks
[21:01] <brunch875> damn! I can't seem to get the sdk to make games :(
[21:02] <EdwardMorbius> ahayzen_ says error device not found
[21:02] <ahayzen_> EdwardMorbius, the device must have developer mode enabled and the device must be unlocked ... and plugged in via a USB cable of course :)
[21:03] <EdwardMorbius> developer is on, I will plugging it again
[21:03] <ahayzen_> $ adb devices ... should list something if your device is found
[21:04] <EdwardMorbius> shows no devices even though Nautilus shows the phone
[21:05] <ahayzen_> hmm try rebooting it? lol
[21:05] <EdwardMorbius> windows style :D
[21:05] <EdwardMorbius> I will
[21:05] <EdwardMorbius> rebooting...
[21:07] <EdwardMorbius> device not found again
[21:07] <ahayzen_> ugh damn adb
[21:08] <EdwardMorbius> maybe I should go through the phone terminal again and email them to myself
[21:08] <ahayzen_> probably easiest the folks who would know about adb not working are probably on holiday today
[21:09] <EdwardMorbius> I will do it manually then, if you can paste direct links to logs it would make it easier :)
[21:12] <ahayzen_>  /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/application-click-com.ubuntu.music_music_2.1.857.log /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/media-hub.log /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/mediascanner-2.0.log are the logs however note each time you reboot they are renamed to .1.gz so the useful info could be in an older log
[21:13] <EdwardMorbius> true it didnt find music...log but it did find 1.tgz
[21:14] <EdwardMorbius> got two, now mediascanner.
[21:14] <EdwardMorbius> got all three
[21:15] <ahayzen_> \o/
[21:17] <EdwardMorbius> is media log supposed to be very small? 953 bytes
[21:17] <EdwardMorbius> or maybe I need some other tgz of it
[21:18] <ahayzen_> yeah the others could be useful, or reproduce the issue of it playing the same track and then recopy the latest one
[21:20] <EdwardMorbius> errors galore in the music application log
[21:20] <EdwardMorbius> should I put them to pastebin or attach to bug report? or both :)
[21:20] <ahayzen_> heh, erm pastebin them first i'll have a quick look
[21:21] <EdwardMorbius> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11357658/
[21:23] <EdwardMorbius> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11357664/ this is media-log
[21:23] <ahayzen_> so "Tried to open a db with schema version -1, while supported version is 8." is something with the mediascanner db, then it starts working after your reboot but there is still "Failed to retrieve rows: database is locked" again mediascanner
[21:24] <ahayzen_> so either it is still scanning (have you copied/moved some new tracks?) or it is exploding on something
[21:24] <EdwardMorbius> recently I added new tracks but dont know why they should cause all this fuss
[21:25] <EdwardMorbius> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11357683/ mediascanner
[21:26] <ahayzen_> looks like your suffering bug 1436110, look at the very end of the mediascanner log
[21:26] <ahayzen_> this track /media/phablet/917C-929E/Music/Claude Larson - High-Tech - The Digital Sound Of Claude Larson/Claude Larson - 08 - Answering Machine.mp3.
[21:26] <EdwardMorbius> I think I reported that bug myself lol
[21:27] <EdwardMorbius> now it comes to plague me again
[21:27] <EdwardMorbius> :D
[21:27] <ahayzen_> \o/
[21:28] <EdwardMorbius> is that one fixed in 15.04?
[21:29] <ahayzen_> there has been no branches linked, so not yet :( I added canonical system image to it to try and get the priority raised, but it has not been set :/
[21:30] <EdwardMorbius> thanks, I hope it will be fixed, everything was fine for a while but then you drop tracks with "wrong" year and everything explodes :D
[21:30] <EdwardMorbius> but now the issue is more severe, Music app sometimes outright crashes
[21:33] <EdwardMorbius> I updated the logs in my second bug report and wrote that it is related to an earlier bug
[21:34] <ahayzen_> thanks
[21:34] <EdwardMorbius> I will delete the offending music maybe as a temporary fix
[21:36] <ahayzen_> yeah or change the date tags is the only option for now unfortunately, i'll see if i can poke someone tomorrow to raise the priority as it is a really nasty bug
[21:36] <EdwardMorbius> thanks, it really is, when more phones hit the market this bug will likely explode a bit more :D
[21:37] <EdwardMorbius> thanks for your help, need to go now, have a good night :)
[21:37] <ahayzen_> thanks for the logs :-)
[21:44] <studio_> hi
[21:46] <studio_> i've seen, that there will be an update for m3u on the phone. does that mean, that for exp. live streams from the local network (source = sat receiver) can be played on the phone?
[21:52] <studio_> what kind of m3u (m3u8) will be supported, only "local" media files?
[22:20] <Edir127> Hello
[22:21] <Edir127> I'm interested in putting Ubuntu Touch onto a HP touchpad that I have. With internet search this seems to be possible but I have no idea where to start.
[22:21] <Edir127> Any help appreciated
[22:27] <Edir127> Can anyone assist me?
[22:44] <mariogrip> !patience Edir127
[22:45] <mariogrip> !patient
[23:05] <Edir127> I have to leave; something has popped up, goodbye.