| knightwise | Morning | 05:35 |
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| knightwise | hey Hornet- | 05:50 |
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| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 07:50 |
| MooDoo | morning brobostigon | 08:00 |
| brobostigon | morning MooDoo | 08:00 |
| MooDoo | :) | 08:01 |
| mapps | hi all | 08:06 |
| mapps | im back in uk atm;p | 08:06 |
| MooDoo | nice wb | 08:06 |
| mapps | next stop is Ukraine:) | 08:06 |
| MooDoo | you doing a eurovision tour ;) | 08:07 |
| mapps | haha nah | 08:07 |
| mapps | im a lone warrior remeber | 08:07 |
| mapps | but my next stop is kiev | 08:08 |
| brobostigon | stay out of the war. dont get hot by bullets. | 08:12 |
| brobostigon | hit* | 08:12 |
| MartijnVdS | getting hot by bullets.. | 08:15 |
| MartijnVdS | friction or burning? | 08:15 |
| brobostigon | both. | 08:15 |
| elfy | so don't get hit by hot bullets | 08:15 |
| mapps | brobostigon thats eastn ukraine;p | 08:16 |
| brobostigon | mapps: i know, it was meant to be a joke. | 08:16 |
| mapps | ie got a friend who said he'll meet me at the airport | 08:16 |
| mapps | :D | 08:16 |
| MartijnVdS | I went the other way -- I drove around the UK for a week :) | 08:16 |
| brobostigon | maybe it was a burning arrow being carries on the back of a bullet? | 08:16 |
| brobostigon | carried* | 08:17 |
| mapps | my friend said he | 08:18 |
| mapps | 'is scary to come' | 08:18 |
| mapps | but i think we will be ok at ukraine:) | 08:18 |
| SuperEngineer | mapps, why do you keep going on about uk rain? | 08:19 |
| SuperEngineer | [& there's no "e" in rain] | 08:19 |
| mapps | because its where im going | 08:19 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: Ye Olde Raine. | 08:20 |
| SuperEngineer | ;) | 08:20 |
| MartijnVdS | aka tap water | 08:20 |
| knightwise | hey everyone | 09:35 |
| popey | yo | 09:41 |
| zmoylan-pi | wow, nearly forgot, happy towel day everyone... | 11:18 |
| bashrc | happy towel day | 11:36 |
| knightwise | hey everyone | 11:44 |
| knightwise | happy towel day :) | 11:44 |
| knightwise | hmm.. i wish Xorg still existed | 11:45 |
| * knightwise having trouble with his ultrawide monitor | 11:45 | |
| shauno | so you'd like 2 problems instead? ;) | 11:45 |
| knightwise | Dunno .. at least in Xorg I knew how to add a resolution | 11:46 |
| knightwise | Ati card is having trouble with the 2560x1440 res of my screen | 11:46 |
| knightwise | somehow it just goed up to 2560x1080 | 11:52 |
| penguin42 | for X I'd know where to suggest looking | 11:52 |
| knightwise | I assume its x (14.04 on a mac mini) | 11:52 |
| penguin42 | knightwise: Well, in that case look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and look for errors or warnings | 11:52 |
| penguin42 | knightwise: and also xrandr to see what it lists as available resolutions | 11:53 |
| knightwise | according to xrandr the max res it knows is 2560x1080 | 11:53 |
| penguin42 | knightwise: ok, so /var/log/Xorg.0.log is the best thing to look at | 11:54 |
| penguin42 | knightwise: Look for any lines with (EE) or (WW) in that are errors or warnings (there are normally a few WW anyway) and also see if the 2560x1440 appears anywhere in it | 11:55 |
| knightwise | no errors , but 2560x1440 doesnt show up anywhere either | 11:55 |
| penguin42 | fun | 11:56 |
| penguin42 | knightwise: What's the card and which driver? | 11:56 |
| knightwise | checking , holdon | 11:56 |
| * penguin42 was expecting it to list it but reject it at some point | 11:57 | |
| knightwise | radeon 6600/6700 fglrx-updates proprietary driver | 11:57 |
| penguin42 | hmm, I've not used the proprietary one for a few years; I use the open one on my hd4350 | 11:59 |
| penguin42 | knightwise: OK, not sure if this will work, but..... | 12:01 |
| penguin42 | knightwise: install the read-edid package then do find /sys -name edid it will find one pseudo-file for each output | 12:02 |
| penguin42 | knightwise: then do parse-edid < /sys/devices/whatever where the whatever comes from the find | 12:02 |
| penguin42 | knightwise: That should give you the information that the monitor is telling the host | 12:02 |
| knightwise | i have been looking at adding the resolution to xrandr but that does not seem to work | 12:09 |
| penguin42 | knightwise: Since you're using the fglrx driver perhaps you should use the setup tool that comes with it? | 12:11 |
| knightwise | aha i'll look for that | 12:11 |
| knightwise | erm .. how do i open that tool ? | 12:12 |
| knightwise | i think i found it :) | 12:15 |
| penguin42 | knightwise: Anyway, if you don't get the monitor working, just ship it here | 12:15 |
| knightwise | ah wait | 12:17 |
| knightwise | the res of my screen IS 2560x1080 | 12:17 |
| knightwise | it was throwing up an error when I booted because it saw 1920x1080 | 12:18 |
| zmoylan-pi | i was using 800x600 in 2010 :-) | 12:18 |
| penguin42 | knightwise: Ah ha! | 12:18 |
| knightwise | ok , so this appears to be working :) | 12:19 |
| knightwise | ok , all I need to fix now is Chrome | 12:20 |
| knightwise | looks like it gets all jumbled up when i scroll | 12:20 |
| penguin42 | that sounds like a driver bug | 12:22 |
| knightwise | ok , rolling back to the open source driver , see if that helps :) | 12:30 |
| diddledan_ | eh? wish xorg still existed? <-- does it not then? | 13:48 |
| * SuperEngineer ponders the declination of this new verb "then" | 13:59 | |
| diddledan__ | I hope you're not expecting me to even. because I can't even. | 14:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | perhaps they a word? :-P | 14:01 |
| penguin42 | all these pedants worry about verbification | 14:02 |
| diddledan__ | penguin42: don't you mean "verbing"? | 14:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | what do they know? :-) | 14:03 |
| diddledan__ | verb is a verb now | 14:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | they'll be wanting us to make less mistakes next... | 14:03 |
| diddledan__ | I need to verb this. | 14:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | it will literally drive them nuts... | 14:04 |
| SuperEngineer | penguin42, verbify.. also a verb? | 14:04 |
| SuperEngineer | the thingg is, yo sea,I neeever mak a mustuke | 14:05 |
| SuperEngineer | [except when typing, writing, or speaking] | 14:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | as lnog as the frist and lsat lteters are in rghit plcae it all wroks ok | 14:06 |
| SuperEngineer | :D | 14:06 |
| diddledan__ | err. was that english? | 14:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | and makes dyslexics happy :-) | 14:07 |
| diddledan__ | what's the capital of England? (hint, it's E) | 14:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | i thought it was bristol as dr. who turns up there a lot? :-) | 14:08 |
| diddledan__ | don't you mean swansea | 14:08 |
| zmoylan-pi | ^this | 14:08 |
| SuperEngineer | or Cardiff? | 14:08 |
| diddledan__ | aah yea, cardiff | 14:08 |
| zmoylan-pi | ^and this | 14:08 |
| diddledan__ | see, I suck! | 14:08 |
| * diddledan__ finds a minto to suck on | 14:08 | |
| * zmoylan-pi passes around a bag of murray mints | 14:09 | |
| diddledan__ | mmm | 14:09 |
| diddledan__ | tasty sickles | 14:09 |
| diddledan__ | futurama ftw, btw | 14:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | it has it's moments | 14:10 |
| diddledan__ | https://youtu.be/Ki7VqBmkf7M | 14:10 |
| knightwise | ok , erm .. stupid question. What version of the 14.04 (or 15.04) distro do you use to install on a mac mini with Xeon processorts | 14:23 |
| knightwise | the 64 bit right ? | 14:23 |
| penguin42 | either 32 or 64 should work | 14:23 |
| penguin42 | hang on, a mac mini with a Xeon? | 14:23 |
| knightwise | its an I7 mac mini | 14:24 |
| penguin42 | why do they put the xeons in them rather than the i7 variant? | 14:24 |
| knightwise | i have 16 gigs of ram , so i should go for the 64 bit version , correct ? | 14:24 |
| penguin42 | yes, always use teh 64bit version unless your hardware doesn't support it | 14:25 |
| knightwise | so does EFI boot matter ? | 14:26 |
| * zmoylan-pi casts ward silliness at mention of efi.... | 14:27 | |
| penguin42 | knightwise: I don't think so these days; the only weirdness now is that if you have a 32bit EFI (that's very very rare) then you need to do special stuff | 14:28 |
| knightwise | ok , because I downloaded the 64 bit version of elementary and got the error code "controller not found' | 14:31 |
| penguin42 | now which controller is the question | 14:33 |
| knightwise | i think it might be the video controller, holdon , i'll boot | 14:34 |
| knightwise | i8042 no controller found | 14:35 |
| penguin42 | oh that's OK I think - that's just saying you've not got PS/2 keyboard | 14:37 |
| knightwise | yep .. but it hangs on that screen | 14:38 |
| knightwise | I have a wireless logitech keyboard with one of those little remote usb controllers | 14:38 |
| knightwise | do i need to plug in a generic usb keyboard ? | 14:38 |
| penguin42 | I don' the i8042 message is relevant to your problem; it's just the last message before it went wrong - but it's worth trying a generic usb keyboard if you've got one, I'd heard other people having problems with some of the logitech wireless | 14:39 |
| knightwise | ok , getting a kb from the basement now | 14:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | something with an at connector so you can connect a at -> ps2 -> usb adapter... :-) | 14:41 |
| * penguin42 isn't sure where his at->ps2 adapter is, I'd like to see if some of my more keyboards still work | 14:42 | |
| knightwise | got a generic mac keyboard (wired) | 14:43 |
| knightwise | nope , same problem | 14:44 |
| * penguin42 guesses more likely a graphics problem | 14:45 | |
| knightwise | hmm there is a radeon 6600 in there | 14:45 |
| penguin42 | should work | 14:46 |
| knightwise | god .. this used to just work ... | 14:46 |
| diddledan_ | knightwise: good to see the new season of your podcast \o/ | 14:57 |
| diddledan_ | jeebers. win10 is bsodding every other minute today | 15:00 |
| diddledan_ | hmm, seems my surface overheated | 15:01 |
| diddledan_ | it's shutdown with a thermometer icon on the screen just prior | 15:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | that's not good | 15:01 |
| * diddledan_ leaves it for a bit to cool-off | 15:01 | |
| zmoylan-pi | surface 4... now with noisy cooling fans... :-P | 15:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | and being ms they'll face upwards so that if you use it outside in the rain it'll be a funnel... :-D | 15:02 |
| penguin42 | an over heating tablet, there had to be a time | 15:07 |
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| bujji | popey:when i use "rm <file name>"as a user with 777 permissions in file its not warn me why? | 17:37 |
| dutchie | why would it warn you? | 17:38 |
| bujji | if i use run that command as aroot user its warn me? | 17:38 |
| bujji | dutchie:may i know the reason ? | 17:39 |
| dutchie | what was the warning? | 17:40 |
| bujji | dutchie:rm:remove regular empty file 'file.txt' ? when i run as a root user with 777 perm | 17:42 |
| bujji | dutchie:"rm file.txt" | 17:44 |
| MartijnVdS | Some distributions alias "rm" to "rm -i" for the root account | 17:44 |
| MartijnVdS | to protect against accidents | 17:44 |
| dutchie | yes it's most likely that | 17:45 |
| MartijnVdS | you can check by running the command "aliasA" | 17:45 |
| MartijnVdS | uh | 17:45 |
| MartijnVdS | the command "alias" | 17:45 |
| MartijnVdS | also, probably, in .bashrc or .bash_profile, or similar (there's a list of startup scripts in the bash manual, "man bash") | 17:45 |
| bujji | yeah i found that | 17:46 |
| bujji | MartijnVds:if i unalias that one it wont ask like that | 17:47 |
| bujji | MartijnVdS:let me check in user | 17:48 |
| bujji | MartijnVdS:got it,thank you. | 17:51 |
| diddledan_ | canonical might IPO? | 18:22 |
| * diddledan_ googles | 18:22 | |
| diddledan_ | http://www.zdnet.com/article/mark-shuttleworth-considering-canonical-ipo/ | 18:23 |
| shauno | lol "We now have a story that the market will understand." | 18:56 |
| shauno | the desktop/server/cloud/mobile/container/throw spaghetti at the wall story? | 18:56 |
| diddledan_ | lol | 18:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | well if you substitute the spaghetti... :-P | 18:58 |
| popey | evening all | 19:16 |
| popey | \o/ free wifi in pubs | 19:16 |
| diddledan_ | \o/ | 19:16 |
| zmoylan-pi | i don't use free wifi, i don't trust it paranoid sod that i am :-) | 19:21 |
| * popey hugs ssl | 19:23 | |
| zmoylan-pi | i think it was when i went to my first hacker meetup and they announced they had at last minute arranged free wifi... just made my spider sense tingle... :-) | 19:25 |
| diddledan_ | eep | 19:25 |
| diddledan_ | yeah free wifi in hacker cons are bad bad | 19:25 |
| zmoylan-pi | and sure enough they showed what folks were browsing during the meetup at one of the last talks. | 19:26 |
| diddledan_ | also check your mobile phones don't connect to random gsm networks | 19:26 |
| zmoylan-pi | at the time gsm fake networks were next to impossible. not impossible but very rare | 19:26 |
| zmoylan-pi | there was an android app that could show all the 2g/3g towers in an area so you could check them out | 19:27 |
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