[17:44] <jani_> Hi!
[17:45] <ianorlyn> hi jani_
[17:45] <jani_> im completely new in this cahnnel :)
[17:46] <jani_> hi ianorlyn
[17:46] <ianorlyn> yay new faces
[17:46] <jani_> is there any company for ubuntu in california, or just a free team?
[17:47] <ianorlyn> there are companies that use it at least one that sells with preinstalled
[17:47] <ianorlyn> I actually have seen a few small shops that say they do repairs on ubuntu computers but they are smaller
[17:48] <jani_> That's great! :) and how about ubuntu in america? -cos in California there are a lots of other os companies, Apple, or Microsoft
[17:49] <ianorlyn> I know google uses some version internally
[17:50] <jani_> wow
[17:50] <ianorlyn> A lot of local vendors that rent out virtual personal servers offer ubuntu as an option
[17:50] <jani_> sounds good :)
[17:51] <ianorlyn> I actually do a lot of testing for lubuntu but I have a different motherboard than one used by system76 who do sell ocmputers with ubuntu preinstalled
[17:51] <jani_> In Hungary in my town there are a lots of Ubuntu pc-s, Cos nobody can afford Mac, or Microsoft. The Salary is so low, in here a Microsoft Windows can be a full month salary! or 80%
[17:51] <DonkeyHotei> but system76 is not based in california
[17:51] <ianorlyn> I know it is not
[17:52] <ianorlyn> that is only because I talked to ian at Scale in feburary and they said they don't offer vt-d on their desktops
[17:52] <DonkeyHotei> we do have zareason though, which is, and they talk to each other a lot
[17:52] <ianorlyn> I didn't get to talk to people from zareason who is based
[17:52] <ianorlyn> I have seen ads for a place called current build but those seem a little low end
[17:53] <DonkeyHotei> zareason has had booths at scale before
[17:53] <ianorlyn> one thing is they don't offer intel graphics and 1080p screen on a laptop though
[17:54] <DonkeyHotei> in fact, earl walked by me once and in passing slapped an ubuntu key sticker straight on my windows key, and it's still on
[17:54] <DonkeyHotei> at scale
[17:55] <jani_> In Hungary laptops and PC is not a lots of money, but Softwares are :(
[17:56] <jani_> You can build a full game compatible strong pc by the price of the Windows 8 .(
[17:56] <ianorlyn> actually the other bad thing about commercial stuff like windows is it is hard to report a bug to them and get it fixed
[17:57] <jani_> Yeah i know, and updates can be goes wrong :D
[17:58] <ianorlyn> I really don't like windows update I like apt-get much more and that has been around for a while
[18:22] <jani_> yeah i know, in home i completely use ubuntu all the machines
[18:22] <jani_> but in work i have to use win :(
[18:23] <jani_> ianorlyn where do you live?
[18:23] <pleia2> welcome jani_
[18:24] <jani_> hi pleia2 :)
[18:24] <jani_> u are from the sun shiny california? :)
[18:28] <pleia2> I live here, that's why I'm in this channel ;)
[18:29] <DonkeyHotei> iirc you actually joined the channel even before you moved out here
[18:29] <pleia2> yep, I had different reasons then
[18:30] <pleia2> now I'm here because I live here
[18:31] <DonkeyHotei> i wouldn't want to live anywhere else
[18:31] <DonkeyHotei> but i might take a trip to philly in the fall
[18:37] <ianorlyn> Torrance it is near LA but a little bit south and west
[18:42] <jani_> i love LA
[18:42] <DonkeyHotei> lala land
[18:42] <DonkeyHotei> i call it that sometimes
[18:43] <DonkeyHotei> there's much about los angeles that i don't like
[18:44] <jani_> i currently live in Hungary, but i want to live in CA, but not really easy to move there fo non us citizens
[18:44] <DonkeyHotei> but los angelenos are just as californian as us here
[18:44] <ianorlyn> yeah public transport in LA isn't good
[18:45] <jani_> its not a pwoblem if u have a car :)
[18:45] <ianorlyn> but traffic is bad
[18:45] <jani_> i have a favourite series wich played in LA
[18:45] <ianorlyn> I don't like the 405
[18:45] <DonkeyHotei> traditionally, in LA everyone either drives or has someone who can driver them
[18:46] <DonkeyHotei> *drive them
[18:46] <jani_> yeah
[18:46] <jani_> i dont have a clue how to move LA from Europe :D
[18:46] <ianorlyn> which means I end up driving my parents places
[18:47] <DonkeyHotei> your parents don't drive?
[18:47] <ianorlyn> my mom did but gave it up after a crazy storing of buying a bmw running away from people she thought were chasing her
[18:48] <ianorlyn> and my dad has recently had cataracts and eye problems
[18:48] <DonkeyHotei> my mom still drove for a while after cataract surgery on both eyes
[18:49] <DonkeyHotei> she has since given it up
[18:50] <jani_> how about works in CA? i heard from a friend its hard to find a job there
[18:50] <DonkeyHotei> it can be
[18:50] <ianorlyn> I am horrible at that
[18:50] <DonkeyHotei> but many parts of the country are much worse
[18:51] <jani_> how worse is that?
[18:51] <ianorlyn> I really find it frustrating how they expect you to be working to find a job
[18:52] <DonkeyHotei> here in san francisco there are more and more tech jobs so the requirements become less stringent
[18:55] <jani_> ianorlyn why is it frustrating?
[18:55] <jani_> DonkeyHotei yeah cos the apple is very near :)
[18:56] <DonkeyHotei> there's a lot more than just apple
[18:56] <ianorlyn> jani_: long personal story with I am bad at interviews
[18:59] <DonkeyHotei> yes, unfortunately for you they actually care about facial expression, body language, and speech qualities
[18:59] <jani_> im not bad, but in my location there is very hard to find a job, cos there is no new job. And i u get a job, you will earn maximum $420 a month or under
[19:00] <DonkeyHotei> but the cost of living is lower, no?
[19:00] <jani_> no
[19:00] <DonkeyHotei> you're in the european union
[19:01] <jani_> i sad it before if u buy a windows 8 its full your salary, or 80%
[19:01] <jani_> yeah and i hate it
[19:02] <jani_> i earn $521 in a month and there is nothing remains after the end of the month
[19:02] <jani_> and im an IT
[19:03] <jani_> i cant imagine the workers, and builders who earns under $300 / month
[19:07] <jani_> so i will live in ca if i can
[19:07] <jani_> but its so hard, it takes ages to move there
[19:10] <DonkeyHotei> for jobs we hope to give priority to those already here, since more people = fewer jobs left
[19:12] <jani_> yeah i knwo
[19:12] <jani_> *know
[19:13] <jani_> its true
[19:31] <ianorlyn> yay screenshots http://brendanperrine.com/screenshotgal/
[19:31] <darthrobot> Title: [screenshot gallery]
[19:31] <DonkeyHotei> cute URL
[19:32] <ianorlyn> although I actually use a program called lazygal to make these and is pretty easy to use
[19:32] <ianorlyn> although most people use flickr or something similar
[19:32] <DonkeyHotei> imgur seems popular
[19:33] <ianorlyn> yes that too