[00:03] Does anyone know how to restore sound devices that KDE oh so helpfully permanently forgot about? [00:03] Kuser: it didnt do anything O_O [00:03] * fhritp has a nervous breakdown [00:05] fhritp: Sorry not running 14.04 here so i really don't know .. Sometimes the lts versions I feel might have more bugs due to old software ... cause often bugs fixed in newer versions are not backported [00:06] damnit [00:06] Kuser: its possible to upgrade to newer kubuntu from terminal right? [00:06] 15.04 [00:07] fhritp: If you have an internet connection yes [00:07] ok [00:07] i think ill do it [00:07] fhritp: I think you might need to upgrade to 14.10 first [00:07] then 15.04 [00:07] -_- [00:09] Kuser: If your home is on a seperate partition ... you could also fresh install [00:09] no its not but i was thinking about it [00:10] anyways im upgrading [00:10] or if you have backup media (which you should anyway) copy the contents of / home and restore it [00:10] i got nothing important =/ [00:10] * fhritp drinks his pain away [00:10] fhritp: If your pc and internet are fast enough upgrading to 14.10 then 14.10 to 15.04 won't take long [00:11] Fresh install could be extemely fast ... kubuntu 15/04 installs in 2 minutes on my system [00:11] When installed from a USB 3 flash drive [00:28] the screen went blank idk WTF is going on [00:28] the cpu is still on [00:28] and doing something [00:28] >=[ [00:29] fhritp: Still updating probably power saving or somthing? [00:29] fhritp: What are the specs of this machine? [00:29] i have a desktop [00:29] its been forever should i just reboot =/ [00:30] um [00:30] core2quad [00:30] 2.5GHz [00:30] 6GB ram [00:32] ok im gonna reboot [00:33] Is the hard disk being used> [00:36] i waited until it stopped spinning [00:36] ok its fine [00:36] booted -_- [00:39] fhritp: updated to 14.10? [00:46] Kuser: no im sorry :( i installed ubuntu-gnome-desktop [00:46] i know what youre thinking... you loser idiet [00:46] but i just cant take it anymore [00:46] ive had so many problems with kde [00:50] valorie: Hey Valorie! Sorry to be bothering but.. What was the new apt command again? sudo apt upgrade --full or somehting? [00:57] fhritp: You don't even know if the issue is realted to kde , the people who made the packages for kubuntu, or you doing something xD [00:57] probably the second [00:59] Been using kde for ages .. No major issues with any recent versions ... but also using it on archlinux for a while. Personally for me Kubuntu has always been good only when keeping the supposedly unstable ppa for the latest kde release active. I've never stuck with old releases. [01:13] Kuser: youre right i like KDE but i dont like *buntu [01:13] they are crap now [01:13] but ive no time to install arch -_- [01:13] no time for anything [01:14] fhritp: Yeah arch takes a while to set up . But then after that its pure boring laziness. Just need to update the packages and check the news on the website incase tiny manual intervention is needed for upgrades (very rare) === james_ is now known as new [02:36] Are file transfer progress graphs set to return in an upcoming Plasma 5 release? Kindof missing them. [02:38] keithzg: they vanished? [02:41] Kuser: At least with Pasma 5.2, there's no graph anymore during file transfers. [02:41] keithzg: Oh I see are there file speed notifications at least? or progress bar? [02:42] Have not come accross a large file transfer in a while... [02:42] Kuser: Yeah, it still gives progress and speed, just no graph thereof. [02:43] Had a friend over who wanted to copy some multi-gigabyte files from me to their USB thumb drive, which is how I discovered this. [02:46] For file transfers over my network, it isn't usually a big deal, since a gigabit network tends to get things done quickly enough either way ;) [02:47] USB drives (and their often lacklustre flash memory) have a way of bursting then falling down to much lower speeds, though, so it's really nice to see a speed graph especially in their case. [02:52] <[Relic]> upgraded to 15.04, but forgot how to pin multiple konsole instances to the different virtual desktops I want them on, any good instructions on this? [03:09] <]Relic[> welp that was fun ask a Q and have to hard reset without knowing if it was answered :( === ]Relic[ is now known as [Relic] === mkv is now known as m4v [05:33] phoenixz: hope you got it from someone else, but you are looking for `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade` [05:34] what saves my bacon, often, is that you can up-arrow for previous commands [06:37] Good morning. [06:42] Good morning lordievader [06:43] Hey drawkward [06:44] lordievader: can I PM you? [06:48] Err, why? [06:50] I just have a few questions, not related to this channel. [06:52] drawkward: Hmm, go ahead. [06:52] Can't say how long I'll be around though. [06:59] hi [07:00] Does anyone else have trouble adding items to "places" in the dolphin file browser? [07:05] aw no one is active here :( [07:05] yes, there is a bug report about it [07:05] Hey a response! [07:05] I think solved but not released [07:06] ohh i didn't know about that.Thanks valorie [07:06] if you find the bug report there is a workaround [07:06] but I think most will just wait for the next release [07:06] cool [07:06] I'll try to find it then [07:06] :) === kubuntu is now known as Guest92369 === ganey_ is now known as Ganey === Guest51049 is now known as thelionroars [10:43] hello all [10:48] hey [10:58] hi, I swithed from fglrx to ati driver via gui driver manager. after reboot I proceeded to purge fglrx * , which failed because fglrx driver was still used [10:59] now it does not boot to graphics nor to command line [10:59] any tips what to do next? [11:03] sgclark, yofel, online? [11:05] i have a few questions regarding the openconnect-networkmanagment-plasma-plugin [11:06] I'm using proprietary Nvidia driver on 15.04. My windows on some applications are huge, with the menubars dominating the screen: http://i.imgur.com/0DqHW9l.png (this is a 1920x1080 screen). Other applications such as Rekonq are normal (Maybe a GTK issue?) Any suggestions on how to fix this? [11:11] menace: online, but I can't say I am entirely familiar with that plugin :( [11:15] you packaged plasma-nm and openconnect works there.. in the older plasma widget the openconnect code (i talk about the authdialog, which handles the initial tls communication) breaks with tls errors.. i wanted to try to backport the openconnect part of the plasma-nm package, because i cannot backport the entire network-manager-stack to precise.. any suggestions how to do that? :D [11:16] i wrote you and yofel an email about that topic :) [11:20] I will read them email. It is still crazy early for me and I need more coffee to understand lol [11:20] them=the [11:40] Hi, how can i minimize thunderbird to tray after clicking close? add ons did not work on 15.04 [11:58] hi :) [11:59] o/ [11:59] just install kubuntu 15.04 on my laptop asus U36SG [12:00] wow, very nice and beautiful [12:00] but, my dual screen over VGA and HDMi doesn't work [12:01] why? [12:01] screen of laptop + hdmi screen works [12:01] screen of laptop + vga works [12:02] vga + hdmi doesn't work. Hdmi screen put in black screen and CGA seem to power off [12:02] maybe your graphic card do not capable [12:02] in kubuntu 14.04, this work fine [12:04] alex_: what sort of GPU are you using? perhaps it is a driver issue [12:06] hateball: i'm not sure to well understand: I use the nvidia driver 346.59 updates [12:07] alex_: Yeah, I was thinking if maybe you were running that driver prior to update, and were using noeuvau now or something [12:07] Unfortunately I don't have a 15.04 machine handy right now so I cant test myself [12:07] alex_: are you using nvidia-settings to configure the setup? [12:07] hateball: not for the moment [12:08] I have to do, but, when I plug the VGA cable, i loose my screens :-/ [12:08] (hdmi, VGA and laptop :-/ ) [12:09] alex_: strange. I guess you could try clearing out kscreen configs and start fresh [12:10] alex_: it should be in ~/.kde/share/apps/kscreen, one config for each monitor you have [12:12] I don't have a kscreen folder in ~/.kde/share/app [12:13] hmmm [12:13] Perhaps one doesnt, when using nvidia... [12:13] I am using intel machine atm, got nvidia at home and I use nvidia-settings on that to change stuff [12:14] alex_: if you start up nvidia-settings maybe you can see some strange config for multiple monitor or so [12:16] :( [12:16] nvidia-setting crash when I wan tto detect screen: Erreur de segmentation (core dumped) [12:17] That doesnt sound so good [12:24] hateball: no :( .. i'm going to try the legacy driver (older) [12:24] That sounds a bit like a broken driver. [12:24] alex_: yeah, it's easy enough to switch [12:25] hey how am I supposed to enable chinese typing [12:25] the "input" in system menu does absolutely nothing === dennis__ is now known as Guest42592 [12:28] otjura: You need an IME, like ibus. [12:31] Hello! Anyone who knows if it is possible to run kernel 3.16 on 15.04? [12:32] you need gentoo [12:32] ))) [12:33] this is horrible weakpoint compared to gnome [12:33] That's horribly inaccurate [12:33] !mainline [12:33] The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds [12:33] luc4: ^ [12:34] hateball: yes, I know that, but can I also run a previous kernel? [12:34] luc4: Sure, install as many kernels as you like. Choose at boot-time [12:37] hateball: great, thanks! [12:50] sgclark: sorry, i don't know your timezone ;) [13:15] does anyone know whether it is possible (in an easy way) to get the Amarok "Action->" actions configured for Clementine also? [13:16] I mean Amarok has "append to playlist" "append & play" and "queue" [13:16] I would like to be able to differentiate (from Dolphin) between "append" and "append and play" [13:17] as well as regular "open" [13:17] but not for Amarok, for Clementine [13:45] valorie: Actually, I figured I was too lazy after I asked, so I went for the man page, it's right there :) Thanks anyway! One weird thing though, apt still refers to apt-get for (for example) autoremove.. if apt is the new and improved replacement, should it not be complete? [14:00] I found my solution: /usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus/amarok_append.desktop is the file that configures the actions [14:00] But the downside is that Clementine cannot even use it: it's default action is always to append. [14:01] now at least I can remove Amarok [14:01] Clementine doesn't have a default "open and play" action. [14:17] xennex81: You can set Clementine to add things if you double click an mp3, or so I thought. [14:17] it can do no different thing ;-) [14:17] it always adds [14:17] I didn't even know [14:18] i was expectinga context menu like in Amarok and Winamp [14:18] it's a bit weird that there is no way to immediately start playing a file @lordievader [14:18] You can set it to that as well. [14:18] you can? I cannot even achieve that from the command line. [14:19] xennex81: Was somewhere in the Clementine settings, IIRC. [14:20] I'll check it out... later ;-) I am writing somethign about it in their google groups [14:20] and sending an email to the writers :P [14:20] lol === aaron is now known as Guest4586 [15:08] hola, alguien sabe de alguna aplicación que sea compatible con skype pero que funcione mejor que skype en ubuntu? gracias [15:11] Howdy all [15:22] Hello BluesKaj :) [15:23] BluesKaj: trying to decipher why my external backup drive's partition table is not recognized [15:23] for some reason [15:23] I hope nothing borked the filesystem on it! [15:24] EvilRoey: What does parted say about it? [15:24] I'd tell you when I'm in front of the machine (in the office now connected to it via SSH) [15:25] lordievader: but running cfidsk /dev/sdb gives this: Device does not contain a recognized partition table. [15:25] lordievader: and it pops up this menu asking for a label [15:25] Select label type--[gpt, dos, sgi, sun] [15:28] I have no experience with cfdisk. [15:31] NanumGothic is the most beautiful font ever on KDE **but** the backslashes are W's with a strikethrough... it's so upsetting. Anyone know how I can fix this without changing the font? [15:53] hey, any chance that plasma 5.3.1 appear on vivid backports? === ds_ is now known as ds [15:59] fantaz, yes in the next week or 2 [16:01] cool, thanx. [16:05] BluesKaj, you spoiled me with 5.3 release which came out the same day as kde announced :-) again, thanx and have a nice day [16:54] <[RO]Daniel> hi all, i installed clamtk from terminal and is working fine but the gui is outdated, then i installed the gui from the sourceforge and it does show up in start menu but it does not run [16:55] <[RO]Daniel> can anyone help me find out why it does not start? [17:48] try running it from the terminal, then pasting the error message [17:48] *pastebinning the error message [17:50] <[RO]Daniel> i have installed the old version now, but it was saying something that /usr/share/perl5/ClamTk/GUI.pm was missing or something [17:50] <[RO]Daniel> probably too much work to fix it, thx anyway [17:50] * david__ tried [17:53] <[RO]Daniel> how do you do that? :) [17:54] <[RO]Daniel> david__: ? [18:04] hello guys .. i think I'm stupid. I cant find any option to make kde stop making the Icon black and white when you minimize a window ... could anybody help me? :< (kubuntu 15.04) [18:11] ds_: there is none as far as I know... but I'd also like tha [18:14] hyper_ch: ah okay, thanks. It really sucks when you have only icons (like in Windows 7) ... i hope that option comes :c [18:14] ds_: you also use icon-only task manager? [18:15] ds_: http://images.sjau.ch/img/8630cb25.png [18:19] hyper_ch: http://i.imgur.com/F8j4Q2i.png ... just switched to kubuntu today, thats why there is almost nothing in it yet lol [18:20] well, with black background color they don't seem to vanish ;) === Guest11202 is now known as amir__ [18:21] Hi, nothing will install on kubuntu on one of my machines. On the one I just installed kubuntu on it works. [18:21] e.g I get "Couldn't find package vlc" [18:24] Any ideas? [18:24] do you install via software center MissCutzie? [18:26] I used apt-get [18:26] MissCutzie: what does "sudo apt-get update" say? [18:28] bunch of 404 errors [18:36] MissCutzie, looks like your sources.list needs checking === amir_ is now known as Guest44607 [18:54] Hi everyone [18:56] I have installed Kubuntu 15.04 [18:56] Everything works fine [18:57] But sometimes when I boot my computer the desktop stops loading and I can do nothing. In which logfiles can I find a reason [18:58] I can move the cursor but I can not interact with the desktop or run any commands. In such situation I press Alt + Ctrl + F1 to change runmode and reboot [18:59] I am new to kubuntu === img is now known as imgxx [19:02] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338999 [19:02] KDE bug 338999 in general "Desktop freezes time to time on plasma 5" [Major,Unconfirmed] [19:02] sounds like this bug === Guest4586 is now known as ahoneybun [19:04] will the backports PPA be getting plasma 5.3.1 ? [19:04] i.e -> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.3.1.php [19:07] Hi! I have an issue with backports PPA. kde-l10n-ru was deleted from it === aaron is now known as ahoneybiun === ahoneybiun is now known as ahoneybun [19:25] morgan_: Maybe in the backports [19:26] morgan_: But not yet [19:28] Etriaph: cheers - I asked in #kubuntu-devel and it was confirmed it will be in the backports ppa [19:29] Ya, but it's still going to be a week or so. [19:29] Maybe less, depends on the speed of the packagers. [19:29] hey all, I'm having trouble upgrading. I just did 'do-release-upgrade' to get to 14.10 which went fine. now I want to go to 15.04, but there seems to be a problem with broken packages. I don't know how to fix this. My /apt/log/dist-upgrade//apt.log is here: http://pastebin.com/Jii3ppUc [19:30] Any significant fixes in 5.3.1? [19:30] yezariael: Does the system boot? [19:31] Eriaph: yeah, 14.10 runs fine [19:31] MissCutzie: I think you'll see more KF5 apps instead of the KF5/4 hybrid [19:31] yezariael: So the upgrade failed? [19:31] yezariael: And 14.10 is still what /etc/issue says? [19:32] Etriaph: In 5.3.1 ? I don't think so as its just a bug fix release? [19:32] hmmm when I sort my life out and have a child that actually sleeps ever I could potentialy help packaging.... I am not a programmer but do know packaging.. [19:32] MissCutzie: A lot of the 15.04 applications are still KDE 4 [19:32] I am aware [19:32] Etripah: yes, calling 'do-release-upgrade' fails with message http://pastebin.com/TjWZcCkh /etc/issue says 14.10 [19:32] I was talking about the plasma 5.3.1 release [19:33] MissCutzie: Oh, if you're specifically talking about the 5.3.1, check the changelog on it, lemme find it [19:34] Upgrading now and doesn't seem like there are any updates to kde applications apart from plasma and its dependencies for 5.3.1 [19:34] https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.3.1.php [19:34] So does not look like there are any more qt5 / frameworks 5 app ports yet [19:34] No, backports is going to have 15.04.1 apps in it at some point in the near future. [19:34] MissCutzie: Even now there are some. [19:35] MissCutzie: Konversation, which I'm using to IRC, is 5.9.0 KDE version. [19:36] 5.9 is 15.04? [19:36] How do I find the kde apps version [19:36] Help -> About KDE [19:37] So if my Konsole says 5.10 it means I'm using kde apps 15.04.1? [19:37] If it's 4.14.7 it's KDE 4 libs, if it's 5.9.0 Frameworks version then it's KDE 5 [19:37] No. [19:37] Frameworks Version 5.10.0 [19:37] 15.04.1 hasn't come down to us yet [19:37] Then you have a PPA that I don't. [19:38] Oh no lol .. this is on my archlinux system . Tends to get kde updates the same day as release [19:38] So I just got plasma 5.3.1 on that [19:40] Ah, OK. [19:41] Ubuntu's really ancient packages had me annoyed. At least Kubuntu gets fairly new KDE updates. Like Eclipse in ubuntu 15.04 repos is years old! [19:42] Its v 3.8 v 4.42 is the latest! [19:42] I find Kubuntu to be consistent, been around distros of every kind since '98 [19:44] It's never failed to allow me to do work, consume and produce media and, ultimately, make money. :D [19:44] Etriaph: Kubuntu is fine and really well setup. its just that Ubuntu does not care about non core packages . Many packages apart from the usual firefox gnome etc have not been updated in ages [19:44] Like seriously who uses eclipse 3.8 anymore! === mkv is now known as m4v [20:37] MissCutzie: Etriaph: if you are talking about LTS that's policy. For rolling releases it is whatever the volunteer packagers of Debian consider "stable" or simply have time to update. It is the famous "scratch your itch" principle. [20:38] Walex: Ubuntu is not rollinmg release [20:39] Walex: But I guess that makes sense. But also leaves the system seem unmaintained imo and may even miss out on security fixes in new releases === toast_ is now known as Guest69668 [20:40] MissCutzie: the releases between LTS are *almost* rolling, as in every 6 months and some updates in between (but rarely). [20:41] anybody had problems with 15.04 freezing on the kubuntu screen? [20:41] MissCutzie: but surely it is not fully rolling, as in there are formal releases. [20:41] nobull: you probably. [20:41] other than me...funny [20:42] Walex: Well for the core packages like kde yes. However those not installed by default I don't see this. Eclipse 3.8 is really really old. It was released years ago current version is 4.4.2 [20:42] nobull: we are sorry but our psychic monitors that scan the minds of all Kubuntu users are currently on other astral planes.. [20:43] It doesn't take a physic to answer a yes/no question [20:43] nobull: "anybody" questions and "it does not work" questions are sometimes not entirely welcome :-) [20:43] MissCutzie: I use JetBrains IDEs these days. [20:44] MissCutzie: They have a price attached, but they integrate well with my OS. [20:44] nobull: it takes a psychic to figure out what you mean with "freezing" and "on the kubuntu screen". And a really powerful one to figure our whether exactly the same symptom happened in other cases that look similar. [20:47] MissCutzie: it might be the oracle java thing mentioned here.. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19792909/why-does-ubuntu-14-04-stick-with-old-eclipse-3-8-when-4-3-is-out [20:47] typically i simply ignore "anbyody" and "something doesn't work" questions, because many users really hate having that pointed out to them their questions are useless, but sometimes I feel like reminding them that better questions have a higher chance of getting a response. [20:48] Isn't this the support forum? Fresh install and it works fine until I did a kernel update to 3.19. After restart, it had a kernel panic error. [20:48] rattking: ah that's another terrible aspect of oracle's takeover of Sun and general Java madness. [20:48] hah tell me about it :) [20:49] I am over here considering forking make-jpkg to make it do what I want [20:50] nobull: it is the *volunteer* support forum, and even in a paid-for one good questions have a better chance of useful answers... [20:51] nobull: anyhow I would describe a kernel panic as different from a "freezing" on the "kubuntu screen". Usually a kernel panic prints a backtrace that gives some clues as to the where it happened and maybe way. Have you got a screenshot or equivalent? [20:51] nobull: "equivalent" as in the names involves in the backtrace. [20:52] nobull: usually but not always kernels crash in drivers, especially for unusual peripherals. Sometimes they crash because of voltage, heat or other hardware faults. [20:54] It was working fine with 14.10 then I tried to do the update. The kernel error happened and so I decided to do a fresh install. I will have to look into the backtrace. I just started over. Last round I enabled some proprietary drivers before I restarted. [20:55] nobull: "proprietary drivers" sometimes mean trouble... Especially if the kernel is fairly new. [20:57] Yeah. I shouldn't have enabled them. Hopefully this iteration will work out better. I am just going to update, reboot, and see what happens. The new plasma looks amazing. I hope I can get it to work out. [20:58] nobull: there is a PPA with backports of 5.3 to 14.04 for example (IIRC). [21:02] It looks like it might have been the drivers. It's starting now. Thinks the wireless drivers are ok to install? [21:03] Walex: not for 14.04 [21:03] Plasma 5.x is supported only for 15.04 [21:03] indeed version 5.3 is in backports ppa for 15.04 [21:16] Good evening , sorry for my english, but after the kubuntu upgrade to 15.04 from 14.10 kde5 don't work, at the login screen i find kde and lxde one over one and i can't that i must to do. [21:17] h_boyz: you man login managers ? [21:17] !it | h_boyz [21:17] h_boyz: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [21:18] lightdm is possible? [21:19] h_boyz: 15..04 uses ssdm [21:19] I see the kde5 login screen,but if i move mouse to appear the lxde login screen..... [21:23] soee: i reboot the system and try to remove lightdm, thanks for your information. [21:32] http://www.itworld.com/article/2926838/linux/mark-shuttleworth-ubuntu-community-council-ask-kubuntu-developer-to-step-down-as-leader.html [21:56] HI! [21:56] Thanks for Kubuntu! [22:01] Good bye! [22:25] all my support to the kubuntu devs, maintainers and the community [22:27] pepee: I'm sure they appreciate your support :) [22:30] well, I doubt I'm relevant... but yeah :P [22:30] canonical and shuttleworth love the drama [22:31] <<<< support here too ! [22:31] * genii gets morgan_ a fresh coffee and cookies [22:32] pepee: Discussion on that subject is currently ongoing in #kubuntu-offtopic if you care to join === aaron is now known as Guest25588 === PlasmaStar is now known as PMMeComplaints === Guest25588 is now known as ahoneybun === fdr is now known as Guest92920 [23:55] anyone here