[17:12] <wxl> elfy: present for your team— bug 1362555
[17:14] <elfy> wxl: nope - all fine here
[17:15] <wxl> elfy: how so?
[17:15] <elfy> doesn't affect me
[17:16] <elfy> I thought I remembered this bug - ochosi commented - must have shown up in #xub-dev
[17:17] <wxl> i think we need to get ochosi and rafaellaguna together
[17:22] <wxl> elfy: also, ochosi's comment is quite old.
[17:23] <elfy> even so - not apparently affecting me
[17:26] <elfy> wxl: I've not seen any notify issues like that ever
[17:26] <elfy> and I get notifications when music changes - and I listen to that for hours and hours at a time
[18:31] <pvsenan> balloons: Hi
[18:35] <balloons> pvsenan, hello
[18:36] <pvsenan> balloons, few days back, there was a mail chain for creating test for ubuntu help app
[18:36] <pvsenan> balloons, can you give me some more details
[18:38] <balloons> pvsenan, certainly. Have you pulled the app sources?
[18:39] <pvsenan> balloons, I am just pulling it from here bzr branch lp:help-app
[18:39] <pvsenan> balloons, is it correct ?
[18:39] <balloons> pvsenan, yes that's correct
[18:39] <pvsenan> balloons, just finished
[18:40] <balloons> this is the original bug Daniel filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/help-app/+bug/1456924
[18:42] <pvsenan> balloons, I've seen this but it doesnt have much details
[18:42] <balloons> the bug also links to the tutorial, which helps a little bit if you need info on setup
[18:42] <balloons> but basically, I can help by writing down some user stories so you know what tests to write :-)
[18:43] <balloons> I was going to get that from Daniel today, but didn't get a chance. I can take a first stab at it though
[18:48] <pvsenan> balloons, that will be great
[18:49] <pvsenan> balloons, I've installed selenium and i am reading the tutorial now
[18:55] <balloons> pvsenan, the first mp I would propose is basically to copy the template to the app so we can launch it and introspect it
[18:55] <balloons> then it will be easy to add tests.
[18:57] <pvsenan> balloons, How do I do that ?
[18:58] <balloons> pvsenan, create a new html5 application in the ubuntu sdk. You should get the new template. It's what's discussed in the tutorial
[19:00] <pvsenan> balloons, I'm sorry, still confused
[19:04] <pvsenan> balloons, the app is already there right ? why should I create a new one ?
[19:05] <balloons> pvsenan, sorry I don't mean to be confusing. I'm just saying the current application doesn't have any functional tests. The template however has an example testsuite you can copy into the project to make it easier
[19:06] <balloons> perhaps I should just propose what I'm talking about so I don't confuse you :-)
[19:06]  * balloons creates mp
[19:14] <pvsenan> balloons, I should use ubuntu SDK GUI right ?
[19:16] <balloons> pvsenan, for test writing you don't have to, but it's handy. Feel free to use your favorite editor
[19:16] <balloons> i personally use it and geany
[19:16]  * balloons tests mp
[19:18] <pvsenan> balloons, this is my status, I have launched ubuntu sdk and now Run Click is running and retrieving files
[19:19] <balloons> pvsenan, ahh right, building a root
[19:20] <balloons> in the interim, you can build the app in the terminal. Have a read of the HACKING guide, but basically  'make app' in the root will buld it
[19:22] <balloons> pvsenan, ok, so I'm pushing my quick version with a basic template in place
[19:23] <balloons> pvsenan, https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/help-app/functional-test-template/+merge/260206
[19:25] <pvsenan> balloons, I am branching it
[19:25] <balloons> that should allow you to easily add testcases now and they will run via autopilot
[19:28] <pvsenan> balloons, i have managed to launch the app
[19:29] <balloons> awesome :-) With my branch you should be able to follow the notes in HACKING and run the basic testcase. It has no asserts, heh, just launched the app
[19:33] <pvsenan> balloons, should I copy the functional test folder to the original source ?
[19:35] <balloons> pvsenan, ? if you want to play with things now, merge my branch locally with what you've been working on, or just start modifying from it and push something new
[19:35] <balloons> make sense?
[19:36] <pvsenan> balloons, how do I merge it locally ?
[19:36] <balloons> pvsenan, so if you did bzr branch lp:help-app, you can merge my branch on top by bzr merge lp:~nskaggs/help-app/functional-test-template
[19:39] <balloons> or simply just bzr branch lp:~nskaggs/help-app/functional-test-template and modify it from there
[19:45] <pvsenan> balloons, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11376527/
[19:48] <balloons> pvsenan, looks like launchpad isn't happy atm, I can't access it
[19:48] <balloons> did you branch my changes already?
[19:49] <balloons> pvsenan, also if you are new to bzr, here's the quick info you need to know: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentToolsUsage and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentToolsSetup
[19:55] <balloons> pvsenan, ok looks like I can connect to launchpad again. Everything get branched ok?
[19:58] <pvsenan> balloons, I think so
[20:01] <balloons> pvsenan, ok, sorry for the initial trouble. So what questions do you still have? We can write a first testcase together now; would that help?
[20:03] <pvsenan> balloons, can you give me some time..I am going for dinner and will be back in 30 mins
[20:08] <balloons> pvsenan, ofc ofc.. I'm here to help with whatever. I want to make sure you have a good understanding of things
[20:31] <dkessel> balloons: good evening. i filed bug 1458314 about the unity8 live session issues the other day. do you think it needs more information for someone to work on it?
[20:31] <balloons> dkessel, howdy.. I too had some fun with unity8 the other day! I finally got a few mins on friday to have a play
[20:32] <balloons> I encountered the same issue with the image. The lxc session worked, but i couldn't install anything, that failed
[20:32] <balloons> things in general with wily were a bit off
[20:33] <balloons> dkessel, you got an oops id? did it file I wonder?
[20:36] <dkessel> balloons: i got the oops after plugging in the ethernet cable and reading the ID in the syslog file
[20:36] <dkessel> the network connection availability triggered the upload i think
[20:37] <dkessel> i don't know how to find out what happened with that oops
[20:39] <balloons> bdmurray, ^^
[20:39] <dkessel> oh, errors.ubuntu.com i guess :)
[20:40] <bdmurray> right, e.u.c/oops/xyz
[20:42] <balloons> nice so it's there: https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/5db6880c-0200-11e5-b05b-fa163e4ccdf2
[20:42] <dkessel> mkay. not publicly accessible. i guess that is a good idea, though
[20:43] <dkessel> but good that you encountered the same problems balloons
[20:44] <balloons> yes, I'll probably carve out some time again this week to have another go and review what's landing in wily
[20:44] <bdmurray> its not publicly accessible because it may contains private data
[20:44] <balloons> the wily change broke a lot of things
[20:53] <pvsenan> balloons, I have a few questions
[20:57] <balloons> pvsenan, ok
[21:00] <pvsenan> balloons, the initial tests you updated in the bug, in all the scenarios a browser will open and how do we validate that
[21:06] <balloons> pvsenan, I would suggest the first test to be simply loading the app and opening each page
[21:06] <balloons> for opening a browser, I have to confer with Daniel about expectations. I don't think we should be leaving the app . . .
[21:07] <pvsenan> balloons, OK. I'll try to do that. I
[21:07] <balloons> It's unclear to me. However if we should indeed be leaving, we can figure out how to test the browser was launched
[21:07] <balloons> I don't know offhand, we'll have to figure it out :-)