[02:53] zequence: OvenWerks: the way backports currently works is that the newer version (backport) is only installed upon request in USC or by passing apt a specific version, or as dependency of a newer package from backports [02:53] so, you can't really "accidentally" get a backport [07:07] micahg: Ah, so you need to manually install it. Ok, that's pretty easy to keep in check then, [09:12] It actually makes more and more sense using the proposed way for categorizing. Debian has three sections - sound, graphics and video. There are freedesktop categories for those [09:13] Sub categories are more fluid, and harder to cement [09:13] But, that's our work comes in. [12:52] Has anyone tried Muon Discover? [19:55] zequence: It seems our version of jackdbus that says it is 1.9.10 is actually 1.9.9.5 which has a bug that means exporting audio files from ardour may be shortened. [19:56] zequence: That is 14.04 LTS I am talking about. [19:57] Utopic is ok though. [20:37] OvenWerks: Yeah, that is probably a bit confusing. The version is probably a development version (1.9.9.5+20130622git7de15e7a-1ubuntu1) [20:38] That's an old date for trusty