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dholbachgood morning07:00
* Unit193 slowpokes barry.07:26
dholbachUnit193, barry is very likely asleep07:50
Unit193dholbach: Yep, it happens.07:50
Unit193He'll be unasleep sometime.07:50
pvloshello guys, is there any ETA for backported packages about apache regarding Logjam attack?08:57
pvlosanybody around?10:15
Rhondanever10:16
Laneypvlos: you probably want to ask in #ubuntu-server if it's a security fix10:17
pvlosLaney: thanks10:20
Laneyor #ubuntu-hardened, but either should work as a first step10:20
pvlosLaney: asked already in -hardened but no answer yet10:20
Laneyokay10:20
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barryUnit193: yawn! :)13:20
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slacknerhello, i was wondering a bit how to proceed with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1437520 - so far this packaging request was ignored, and as i just heard in a different channel Maarten lankhorst, the previous wine maintainer, is not hired by canonical anymore. who is responsible now?17:34
ubottuUbuntu bug 1437520 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] wine staging" [Wishlist,New]17:34
slacknerwe from the wine staging team would also do the packaging of vanilla wine versions if noone else wants to take over this task, currently it is terribly outdated (1.7.38).17:34
Unit193!info wine-development17:37
ubottuwine-development (source: wine-development): Windows API implementation - standard suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.29-4 (vivid), package size 22 kB, installed size 123 kB (Only available for any-i386; any-powerpc; amd64)17:37
DarkPlayerslackner was referring to the ubuntu-wine ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+index?batch=75&memo=75&start=7517:39
Unit193Yeah, guessed.17:40
slacknerwasn't aware that there is also a wine-development package in newer versions, but as it seems its even more outdated17:40
Unit193!info wine-development wily17:40
DarkPlayersince winehq does not accept bug reports for the stable versions, users are forced to get the wine version from some ppa if they don't want to build from source17:40
ubottuwine-development (source: wine-development): Windows API implementation - standard suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.41-1 (wily), package size 23 kB, installed size 131 kB (Only available for any-i386; any-powerpc; amd64; armhf)17:41
slacknercurrent one is 1.7.43, so still outdated *g* ;)17:41
Unit193I'm just checking what's in the repos now. :P17:41
slacknerare these packages just ported from debian? or who is responsible? we would like to proceed somehow with resolving bug 1437520 or at least hear some opinions ^^17:43
ubottubug 1437520 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] wine staging" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143752017:43
DarkPlayerMaintainer: Debian Wine Party <pkg-wine-party@lists.alioth.debian.org>17:44
DarkPlayerUploaders:  Michael Gilbert <mgilbert@debian.org>, Stephen Kitt <skitt@debian.org>17:44
DarkPlayerlooks like the debian package17:44
micahgslackner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages?upid=9399#Packaging_it_yourself would be the next step if no one else wants to do it17:47
micahghave you contacted the wine team in Debian17:47
micahgthat's probably the best bet17:47
micahghttps://pkg-wine.alioth.debian.org/17:48
DarkPlayermicahg: there was already a bug report in debian for adding wine staging (from someone else), but it didn't receive any attention17:49
slacknermicahg: i am not sure if this has changed now that mlankhorst doesn't seem to be responsible anymore, but so far the ubuntu wine packages were packaged by ubuntu directly17:51
DarkPlayermoreover, debian also only provides the stable version and their solution to rename all executables in the wine-development package is more than hacky17:51
slacknermicahg: and as DarkPlayer already said, based on the previous discussions debian didn't seem to be very interested, so we would prefer to get into ubuntu directly - ubuntu seems to be much more user friendly and also applied patches for pulseaudio support in the past, for example ;)17:52
micahglast update from the Ubuntu maintainer was 6 months ago, so, generally, it's usually good for Ubuntu specific packages to have a dedicated team or maintainer that'll look after it as Debian has that for its packages, it's technically not a requirement, but without that, the package is likely to get out of date17:57
DarkPlayerwe wouldn't have a problem with maintaining the vanilla wine package together with wine-staging17:58
DarkPlayerwe already build wine-staging for a lot of distributions (debian, ubuntu, fedora, mageia, opensuse, ...)17:58
DarkPlayerso there is no problem for us maintaining an additional package17:59
DarkPlayersince we work on wine for a long time now, we also know how to build wine, many distributions contain broken packages because they use incompatible build flags or miss some important dependency etc.18:00
micahgI would suggest contacting https://launchpad.net/~scottritchie/ as he's been maintaining wine in Ubuntu for a long while18:00
slacknermicahg: we added him to the bug report which was opened two months ago, no answer so far - i am also not sure if i should still expect an answer18:05
micahgslackner: I'd suggest sending an email either through launchpad or directly, some people filter bug reports18:05
micahgI'd suggest giving about 2 weeks after sending the email, if you don't hear anything and you have it packaged, we can work on getting it into Ubuntu18:06
slacknermicahg: kk, i'll give it another try then, thx18:09
micahgslackner: thanks and good luck18:09
micahgwe're early in the cycle, so there's time :)18:10
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slacknermicahg: just about to send the mail, should i add you as CC?19:23
micahgsure, I don't mind19:24
utlemmingI just filed Bug 1459455 for inclusion in Wily. Wondering if any of you kind motu's could take a look. This is a Ubuntu specific package for xe-guest-utilities.22:59
ubottubug 1459455 in Ubuntu "[needs packaging] xe-guest-utils" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145945522:59
micahgI can take a look a little later23:08

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