[01:49] <holstein> ornj: hmmm. i dont recall it having it.. whats it doing?
[01:53] <ornj> well... whatever service it uses to look up track titles
[01:53] <holstein> well, its all open, so, the answer is always yes, but, i havent noticed it looking up anything for me
[01:53] <ornj> 'cause it certainly ain't gettin' em from me!
[01:54] <holstein> ornj: could be getting information from the track it self
[01:54] <holstein> ornj: disable network connection, put in new cd..
[01:54] <ornj> heh
[01:54] <ornj> Really? So I have to shut off my Internets?
[01:54] <holstein> ?
[01:54] <ornj> Of course, as soon as I turn it back on...
[01:54] <holstein> ornj: no.. im saying, *test* this, by doing that.. disable the network, put in a CD that you havent used yet
[01:55] <ornj> In fact, it says "retrieving" or something while it is pulling the new names
[01:55] <holstein> then, if the info comes up, its baked in the track. if it doenst, then, reconnect and see if it get the information
[01:55] <ornj> I know what you're saying. It gets them off the 'Net.
[01:55] <holstein> ornj: sure.. its just that, is it off the net?
[01:57] <holstein> lets see.. its probably the ccdb plugin.. it comes in with the pacakge
[01:57] <holstein> let me just open it and see how to disable..
[01:57] <ornj> tries to use cddb://
[01:57] <ornj> "Error consulting CDDB server: Unknown host name"
[01:57] <ornj> Thank you
[01:58] <holstein> i would look under "plugins" in the menu
[01:58] <holstein> personally, i would just diable them all, since you are trying to get it to do less
[01:59] <holstein> you'll then be able to see that its not reaching cddb, and add back what you need, if anything
[02:04] <ornj> Well, plugins also do things like play everything
[02:05] <holstein> ornj: sure. so, you can test.. and put back what you need
[02:05] <ornj> And I also appear to have broken all my existing playlists, which kind of sucks
[02:05] <holstein> ornj: i dont have a CD player here, handy.. nor a CD to test for you
[02:05] <ornj> What a giant pain in the balls
[02:05] <ornj> So, in short, "I don't know [if there is one]."
[02:05] <ornj> Well, thanks anyway
[02:06] <holstein> ?
[02:06] <holstein> ornj: are you saying, that im trying to say, i dont know that there is a "Fix"?
[02:06] <holstein> anyways, i dont think you'll have any issue isolating what the plugins do..
[02:07] <holstein> if i had a CD here, and an optical drive, handy, id just do it real quick, and let you know which one is it
[02:08] <ornj> UGH
[02:08] <ornj> Found it
[02:08] <ornj> After disabling EVERYTHING
[02:09] <holstein> yup. thats what i would have had to do.. just disable them, and see what is waht
[02:09] <holstein> what*
[02:09] <ornj> Yeah, well
[02:09] <ornj> no
[02:09] <holstein> and, now you know
[02:09] <ornj> because you disable the Audio CD plugin, you can't play CDs
[02:09] <holstein> right. so, you add that one back..
[02:09] <ornj> you enable it, you have your 'Net connected, it retrieves titles
[02:10] <ornj> No Audio CD plugin - no sound. Audio CD plugin - sound+titles.
[02:10] <holstein> sure.. so, grab/extract the audio, leave disabled.. ask the developers.. use another player like vlc.. etc
[02:11] <holstein> maybe there is an audio cd playback only version.. anyways.. you can always just disable the network, and play the cd
[02:11] <ornj> What you have to do is go into the Preferences FOR THAT SPECIFIC plugin
[02:11] <holstein> whats the issue with cddb access?
[02:11] <ornj> and uncheck "Use CDDB."
[02:12] <holstein> right.. sounds like thats what you need.. enjoy, then
[02:12] <ornj> :)
[02:12] <ornj> Danke
[02:15] <ornj> Because I see no reason to share my listening habits and I usually have to go in to fix spelling/capitalization/stupid genre classification/etc. issues anyway.
[02:17] <holstein> no one will make you use it.. i think you are assuming they take anything from you.. but, disable what you like
[02:18] <ornj> No, no one "makes" me use it, but it's clearly a giant, obfuscated pain to disable.
[02:18] <ornj> You're telling me freedb.org keeps *no* logs of who queries the server for what?
[02:20] <ornj> OK, wait
[02:21] <ornj> after all this is Audacious not even what I want to rip to FLAC/Vorbis?
[02:22] <holstein> no. im not saying that.. im saying, you may be assuming they are.. and that you also are free to not use the service
[02:23] <holstein> i use soundconverter.. i'll rip to lossless something.. and convert to what i need
[02:23] <holstein> !info soundconverter
[02:24] <ornj> Wait, you rip to a lossless format, then convert from that?
[02:25] <holstein> correct.. something that matches the quality of the source
[02:25] <holstein> lossless 16/44.1 for example.. wav.. for CD.. then, i convert to what i want from there
[02:26] <ornj> You use Soundconverter to rip as well?
[02:26] <holstein> no.. its not a ripper
[02:26] <holstein> its a converter
[02:26] <ornj> Right, so... I'm still... The question was what to rip with.
[02:26] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[02:27]  * ornj shrugs, goes off to google.
[02:27] <holstein> i dont deal with CD's anymore
[02:27] <holstein> but, when i did, i used that appliation ^
[02:27] <ornj> I'm a little shocked Ubuntu Studio doesn't seem to come with a tool for this.
[02:28] <Unit193> I think I used sound-juicer last time.
[02:28] <holstein> !info sound-juicer
[02:29] <ornj> Yes; it doesn't come installed.
[02:29] <ornj> Odd.
[02:29] <holstein> its in the repos.. easy to add
[02:29] <holstein> ubuntustudio is not for that.. not aiming for audio consumption
[02:29] <holstein> its more setup for creating audio files, and art.. not consuming the art..
[02:29] <ornj> . . .
[02:30] <holstein> by default, its not intended to be a "cd ripping station"
[02:30] <ornj> Fair enough, I suppose.
[02:30] <ornj> *lol*
[02:30] <ornj> I didn't think extracting audio tracks from a CD turned my studio setup into a "CD ripping station."
[02:32] <ornj> Forgot I had cdrdao on this thing.
[02:32] <Unit193> OK?  Bye?
[02:32] <holstein> "im shocked ubuntustudio isnt catered for my complete needs, out of the box" ;)
[02:33] <holstein> anyways.. new musescore! ..looks slick
[02:34] <Unit193> Heh, well I don't do a lot.  Mine tends to be live streaming, and the client side of that is Windows anyway.  So while I have Icecast2 on the server, butt is on the Windows computer.  Of course, Linux could use darkice, butt or even something else.
[03:48] <german> how can i run python in ubuntu studio?
[03:49] <holstein> german: open a terminal, and type python
[03:49] <german> ython 2.7.3 (default, Sep 26 2012, 21:53:58)
[03:49] <german> [GCC 4.7.2] on linux2
[03:49] <german> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
[03:50] <holstein> !paste
[03:50] <holstein> anyways, its the same as ubuntu. anything you see for directions in ubuntu will be the same
[03:50] <german> ok
[05:15] <Tooncenator> holstein - It works! Can't believe how simple the solution turned out to be. I totally forgot that in the same setup where I specified the the soundcard to use, that you could specify both the Input AND the output! lol. So I changed the output to the other chip inside the m-audio box (it has two), and I'm good to go! Thanks again for your help and patience!
[05:16] <Tooncenator> *headsmack* + sigh of relief
[15:35] <holstein> Tooncenator: good to hear
[15:36] <holstein> yes, thats why i do, and suggest, using a live iso, to remove any little config settings like that from the equation
[15:36] <holstein> one can easily see how a stock environment works, without "breaking" the current installation
[15:36] <holstein> and in many cases, copy, or save config settings that are working