[00:23] <Unit193> bluesabre: Debian Bug #786582 :P
[00:23] <Unit193> Maybe 786620.
[02:11] <micahg> Unit193: it's already fixed in svn
[02:11] <Unit193> micahg: Right, yeppers.  I think I saw that, but good to know for sure.
[02:12] <micahg> I meant to upload as 1svn1, but got tired of fighting with svn-buildpackage
[02:12] <micahg> I guess Loga-n went and fixed it
[02:12] <micahg> "fixed"
[02:12] <micahg> :)
[02:12] <Unit193> Oi, yeah...  I need to figure that out, used to gbp myself.
[02:13] <micahg> I test built fine, but couldn't get it to spit out a package without needing to commit
[02:14] <Unit193> I'll have to bug you about a good page for the workflow sometime. :P
[02:28] <GridCube> knome, http://xubuntu-showcase.deviantart.com/blog/535637153/
[02:28] <Unit193> \o
[06:43] <ochosi> morning all
[06:44] <elfy> morning ochosi 
[06:52] <ochosi> wtf, now i can reproduce that problem with the black icon and xfpm1.5
[06:52] <ochosi> time to investigate...
[06:52] <Unit193> :D
[06:53] <elfy> lol - I've got the icon currently ... 
[06:53] <ochosi> awesome, it seems eric broke it with his last commit :'(
[06:54] <ochosi> guess i should've reviewed that more closely before releasing 1.5
[06:54] <ochosi> however, we still have some old icons there in xubuntu-artwork
[06:57] <ochosi> so yeah, it really doesn't use symbolic icons now
[10:30] <bluesabre> elfy: now we can say ochosi is the crazy one :)
[10:40]  * lderan wonders how much extra crazy one needs to have to be the crazy one here
[10:41]  * bluesabre remembers knome holding that title for a while
[10:41] <bluesabre> it might come with XPL
[10:41] <knome> i was too crazy so i dropped the glass trophy and thus lost the title
[10:44]  * ochosi rolls his eyes frantically and hops on his desk
[10:45] <knome> now you have two desks
[10:45] <knome> two TWO-LEGGED desks
[10:48] <bluesabre> New Ikea line of minimalistic desks?
[10:48] <knome> i think elfy has one of those two-legged desks... no kidding
[10:49] <bluesabre> sounds about right, I think Unit193 mentioned something about those too
[10:49] <bluesabre> we should check with pleia2 if she has any recollection about that
[10:50] <ochosi> bluesabre: anyhoo, what i noticed is that i need to refresh xubuntu-artwork, it still has some of the fake symbolic icons
[10:50] <knome> ultimately, i think it's better to ask slickymasterWork to verify
[10:50] <bluesabre> 21:D
[10:50] <bluesabre> where'd that 21 come from, meh :D
[10:50] <ochosi> very short password?
[10:51] <knome> did you try to fake your age on an alcohol-related site?
[10:51] <bluesabre> probably both
[10:51] <lderan> woo
[10:51] <bluesabre> ochosi: cool, will that fix xfpm, or does it also need an update?
[10:52] <ochosi> btw, since you guys are around, shall we finally set up some blueprints for w?
[10:52] <bluesabre> we need to
[10:52] <ochosi> bluesabre: nah, the last commit by eric broke xfpm's icons :/
[10:52] <knome> i was going to ask when you'd like to do that the other day
[10:52] <bluesabre> I think feature definition freeze is tomorrow...
[10:52] <knome> hahah
[10:52] <knome> well,
[10:52] <knome> there isn't much plans for website
[10:52] <knome> at least anything that is cycle deadline related
[10:53] <knome> but FDF is just... blah anyway
[10:53] <bluesabre> dev plans: update catfish/menulibre/parole, wiggle around libreoffice packages... maybe the overlay that I've been lazy on for a few years
[10:54] <knome> i think it's a historical artefact from time when community actually was involved with the main OS spec planning..
[10:54] <ochosi> still empty, but here goes the umbrella bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-w-flavor-xubuntu
[10:54] <bluesabre> knome: re website, we wanted to revamp the FAQs and such, right?
[10:54] <knome> somebody create a pad so i can dump my workitems there while playing FIFA
[10:54] <knome> bluesabre, yes
[10:54] <knome> bluesabre, i'll also look more into adding artwork there
[10:55] <knome> bluesabre, and also update the "get involved" section
[10:55] <knome> (that's WIP already)
[10:55] <bluesabre> yeah
[10:55] <ochosi> i'll start setting up the other blueprints now
[10:55] <lderan> cool
[10:55] <ochosi> bluesabre: what about panel-switch`?
[10:55] <bluesabre> can also bump the dev documentation, since our little xubuntu-dev family keeps getting bigger
[10:56] <bluesabre> ochosi: yeah: panel switch can be finished early this cycle
[10:57] <bluesabre> I guess another dev thing is getting xubuntu-core on cdimage... maybe?
[10:57] <knome> bluesabre, sgt-puzzles launcher
[10:57] <bluesabre> knome: that too
[10:57] <bluesabre> man, I really do have a todo list
[10:57] <bluesabre> :D
[10:57] <ochosi> bluesabre: please just jot down everything here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-features
[10:58] <ochosi> wait, i might've screwed up the dependency tree there
[10:58] <ochosi> :)
[10:58] <bluesabre> I think "Development" might be a better title than New Features at this point
[10:59] <bluesabre> we're pretty stable these days
[10:59] <ochosi> ok, i'm fine with that too
[10:59] <ochosi> i can remove the bp again (or rename)
[11:00] <bluesabre> your call, boss :)
[11:00] <ochosi> i'm wondering, i guess the right assignee would be xubuntu-dev, not xubuntu-team
[11:00] <ochosi> anyway, done
[11:00] <ochosi> so go ahead, work your magic bluesabre ;)
[11:00] <bluesabre> woot
[11:02] <ochosi> elfy: please check out https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-qa
[11:03] <knome> ochosi, i suggest just creating -community for community+web+marketing
[11:03] <ochosi> ok, fine by me
[11:03] <knome> we can split later if needed
[11:04] <ochosi> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-community
[11:04] <ochosi> would be good if you could note that straight away in the bp
[11:04] <knome> actually i think i'll create another one for -web
[11:04] <knome> because then the LP teams make sense
[11:04] <ochosi> k
[11:04]  * knome does magics
[11:05] <slickymasterWork> ask me what ochosi, knome?
[11:06] <ochosi> slickymasterWork: i didn't wanna ask you anything, however, your blueprint link is coming up in a minute..
[11:07] <knome> slickymasterWork, i was just messing around with everybody later
[11:07] <slickymasterWork> heh, I was wondering when will we start seting up those
[11:07] <knome> eh, earlier
[11:07] <knome> :P
[11:07] <slickymasterWork> ok
[11:08] <ochosi> slickymasterWork: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-docs
[11:08] <slickymasterWork> great, thanks ochosi 
[11:08] <ochosi> sorry for being a bit late with that
[11:08] <bluesabre> using the whiteboard here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-development
[11:09] <ochosi> knome: so no -marketing?
[11:09] <bluesabre> !team | please add any items you'd like to be considered for development this cycle https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-development
[11:09] <bluesabre> never ever ever works for me
[11:09] <knome> ochosi, there is no marketing LP team, let's group it under .community
[11:09] <knome> - too
[11:10] <bluesabre> !team
[11:10] <bluesabre> see above
[11:10] <bluesabre> :)
[11:10] <knome> ochosi, if pleia2 gets sad, then i'll split it for her
[11:10] <knome> hmm, i'm not sure if that came out all right
[11:10] <ochosi> hehe, "nice"
[11:10] <bluesabre> ok, gotta run, bbl
[11:10] <bluesabre> thanks for getting things rolling, guys
[11:10] <bluesabre> :)
[11:11] <ochosi> anyway, all blueprints set up
[11:11] <ochosi> k, now the pinging begins...
[11:11] <knome> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-community
[11:12] <knome> pleia2, elfy: you have inherited work items in that BP (carried on from last cycle)
[11:12] <ochosi> Unit193, Noskcaj: we've set up the development blueprint here. if you have ideas/suggestions, note them on the whiteboard for now. if you wanna take up one of the existing ideas as a task for 15.10, please add it as a workitem assigned to yourself: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-development
[11:13] <bluesabre> lderan: you can pull something from that list as well, if you're interested
[11:13] <bluesabre> (panel switch is an interesting one)
[11:13] <ochosi> indeed
[11:13] <ochosi> +1
[11:21] <ochosi> lderan: actually it would be nice to track the meetingology stuff in the development blueprint
[11:21] <knome> ochosi, i would vote for -communit
[11:21] <knome> +y
[11:21] <ochosi> yeah, that's fine too
[11:22] <ochosi> just in some blueprint would be nice
[11:22] <ochosi> otherwise it's not really on the radar
[11:22] <knome> yep
[11:22] <knome> ...bleep...bleep...bleep...
[11:22]  * knome does his infamous radar imitation
[11:22] <lderan> ochosi: oo
[11:26] <elfy> knome: nope - I don't have a 2 legged desk - it has just the one 
[11:27] <knome> even better :P
[11:28] <elfy> totally :D
[11:28] <elfy> ochosi: thanks ... I especially like the workitems 
[11:29] <ochosi> yup, well obviously you gotta fill in the blanks yourself ;)
[11:29] <elfy> collect £200 go straight to 100% on topic progress
[11:29] <elfy> oh bah 
[11:32] <elfy> knome: yep - expected that to turn up on the wibbly blueprint 
[11:33] <elfy> the inheritance that is 
[11:34] <elfy> bluesabre: was the -bugs blueprint at all useful? 
[11:34] <elfy> oh nvm - I see ochosi built it :)
[11:34] <slickymasterWork> knome at some point we'll have to gather to discuss the best approach to deal with the third item in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-docs
[11:34] <knome> yeah, +1 for -bugs
[11:35] <ochosi> elfy: i pulled in the open bugs from 15.04 that made sense
[11:35] <knome> slickymasterWork, propose dylan that he comes to IRC some time and schedule a meeting with us, him and somebody technical
[11:35] <ochosi> elfy: feel free to add new ones as you notice them
[11:36] <elfy> ochosi: ack
[11:52] <ochosi> bluesabre: would you mind setting the "in development"-wallpaper for 15.10 when you're around again?
[13:37] <slickymasterWork> ok, knome, I'll mail him and to schedule it and then I'll warn you and bluesabre of when it's going to be
[16:19] <ochosi> elfy: ok, we have a fix for xfpm in git. if you wanna rebuild cleanly from git without any patches and test that...
[16:24] <pleia2> so many pings
[16:24] <pleia2> I thought I missed a meeting :)
[16:24] <ochosi> well, sort of ;)
[16:25] <pleia2> knome: thanks for updating the blueprints
[16:25] <ochosi> pleia2: so i didn't set up a marketing blueprint cause knome said it should go in community
[16:25] <pleia2> yeah, that's fine
[16:25] <ochosi> k
[16:25] <ochosi> if you feel you need one during the cycle, we can always set one up
[16:26]  * pleia2 nods
[16:27] <elfy> ochosi: ack - did that - have icon 
[16:27] <ochosi> \o/
[16:28] <ochosi> eric_the_idiot_: ^
[16:28] <eric_the_idiot_> awesome!
[16:28] <eric_the_idiot_> let us know if it goes missing later :)
[16:28] <ochosi> elfy: i guess if you added the shimmer daily ppa for an up-to-date elementary-xfce, all the icons should be fixed now
[16:28] <ochosi> incl the symbolic icons for the plugin
[16:28] <elfy> ochosi: had that since whenever
[16:29] <elfy> and symbolic icons is one of those it's an ellipse no it's not things ... 
[16:29] <elfy> wouldn't know a symbolic icon from not 
[16:30] <elfy> though it doesn't appear any different than before to me
[16:31] <elfy> changes when panel size increases
[16:34] <elfy> eric_the_idiot_: ack 
[16:35] <elfy> mmm 
[16:36] <elfy> synaptic showing xfpm from staging 
[16:37] <elfy> I guess it'd not show the one I built from git 
[16:55] <Unit193> bluesabre: Libreoffice also includes x-d-s update.
[16:55] <micahg> I'm working on the packagesets now FWIW
[17:13] <ochosi> elfy: yeah, you'd have to uninstall first
[17:16] <elfy> ochosi: that's what I thought
[17:17] <elfy> so I did - which removes the other 2 xfce4-power-*packages - then there's no plugin available to add to panel 
[17:28] <ochosi> did you compile with "./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr"?
[17:29] <elfy> http://pastebin.com/wMFXmxVx
[17:29] <elfy> ochosi: ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --enable-debug=yes
[17:29] <ochosi> k, sorry, i gotta run, i can look again tomorrow if that's ok
[17:30] <elfy> of course it is :)
[17:31] <ochosi> k, ttyl then :)
[19:18] <micahg> is there a reason we're seeding apt-offline?
[19:18] <Unit193> skellat had a reason.
[19:18]  * micahg digs through bzr
[19:19] <Unit193> It's in the docs too.
[19:19] <Unit193> Think a meeting had it.  The docs has a very good write up though, linked to it elsewhere.  Think something along the lines of it being small and very useful for those in spotchy internet places.
[19:20] <micahg> sigh, and he quotes me
[19:20] <Unit193> Oh?
[19:20] <micahg> ah, I see the comment now
[19:20] <micahg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11396952/
[19:22] <micahg> sigh, ok, well, the packagesets aren't getting updated today :(
[19:23] <Unit193> :(
[22:16] <ochosi> micahg: any concerns wrt aptoffline or,are you trying to get us below 1gb? :)
[22:17] <ochosi> sry, meh, typing sucks on the ipad
[22:25] <micahg> ochosi: neither actually, trying to update the packageset first