[00:23] bluesabre: Debian Bug #786582 :P [00:23] Debian bug 786582 in xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin "xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin: FTBFS in Ubuntu due to patch fuzz" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/786582 [00:23] Maybe 786620. [02:11] Unit193: it's already fixed in svn [02:11] micahg: Right, yeppers. I think I saw that, but good to know for sure. [02:12] I meant to upload as 1svn1, but got tired of fighting with svn-buildpackage [02:12] I guess Loga-n went and fixed it [02:12] "fixed" [02:12] :) [02:12] Oi, yeah... I need to figure that out, used to gbp myself. [02:13] I test built fine, but couldn't get it to spit out a package without needing to commit [02:14] I'll have to bug you about a good page for the workflow sometime. :P [02:28] knome, http://xubuntu-showcase.deviantart.com/blog/535637153/ [02:28] \o [06:43] morning all [06:44] morning ochosi [06:52] wtf, now i can reproduce that problem with the black icon and xfpm1.5 [06:52] time to investigate... [06:52] :D [06:53] lol - I've got the icon currently ... [06:53] awesome, it seems eric broke it with his last commit :'( [06:54] guess i should've reviewed that more closely before releasing 1.5 [06:54] however, we still have some old icons there in xubuntu-artwork [06:57] so yeah, it really doesn't use symbolic icons now [10:30] elfy: now we can say ochosi is the crazy one :) [10:40] * lderan wonders how much extra crazy one needs to have to be the crazy one here [10:41] * bluesabre remembers knome holding that title for a while [10:41] it might come with XPL [10:41] i was too crazy so i dropped the glass trophy and thus lost the title [10:44] * ochosi rolls his eyes frantically and hops on his desk [10:45] now you have two desks [10:45] two TWO-LEGGED desks [10:48] New Ikea line of minimalistic desks? [10:48] i think elfy has one of those two-legged desks... no kidding [10:49] sounds about right, I think Unit193 mentioned something about those too [10:49] we should check with pleia2 if she has any recollection about that [10:50] bluesabre: anyhoo, what i noticed is that i need to refresh xubuntu-artwork, it still has some of the fake symbolic icons [10:50] ultimately, i think it's better to ask slickymasterWork to verify [10:50] 21:D [10:50] where'd that 21 come from, meh :D [10:50] very short password? [10:51] did you try to fake your age on an alcohol-related site? [10:51] probably both [10:51] woo [10:51] ochosi: cool, will that fix xfpm, or does it also need an update? [10:52] btw, since you guys are around, shall we finally set up some blueprints for w? [10:52] we need to [10:52] bluesabre: nah, the last commit by eric broke xfpm's icons :/ [10:52] i was going to ask when you'd like to do that the other day [10:52] I think feature definition freeze is tomorrow... [10:52] hahah [10:52] well, [10:52] there isn't much plans for website [10:52] at least anything that is cycle deadline related [10:53] but FDF is just... blah anyway [10:53] dev plans: update catfish/menulibre/parole, wiggle around libreoffice packages... maybe the overlay that I've been lazy on for a few years [10:54] i think it's a historical artefact from time when community actually was involved with the main OS spec planning.. [10:54] still empty, but here goes the umbrella bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-w-flavor-xubuntu [10:54] knome: re website, we wanted to revamp the FAQs and such, right? [10:54] somebody create a pad so i can dump my workitems there while playing FIFA [10:54] bluesabre, yes [10:54] bluesabre, i'll also look more into adding artwork there [10:55] bluesabre, and also update the "get involved" section [10:55] (that's WIP already) [10:55] yeah [10:55] i'll start setting up the other blueprints now [10:55] cool [10:55] bluesabre: what about panel-switch`? [10:55] can also bump the dev documentation, since our little xubuntu-dev family keeps getting bigger [10:56] ochosi: yeah: panel switch can be finished early this cycle [10:57] I guess another dev thing is getting xubuntu-core on cdimage... maybe? [10:57] bluesabre, sgt-puzzles launcher [10:57] knome: that too [10:57] man, I really do have a todo list [10:57] :D [10:57] bluesabre: please just jot down everything here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-features [10:58] wait, i might've screwed up the dependency tree there [10:58] :) [10:58] I think "Development" might be a better title than New Features at this point [10:59] we're pretty stable these days [10:59] ok, i'm fine with that too [10:59] i can remove the bp again (or rename) [11:00] your call, boss :) [11:00] i'm wondering, i guess the right assignee would be xubuntu-dev, not xubuntu-team [11:00] anyway, done [11:00] so go ahead, work your magic bluesabre ;) [11:00] woot [11:02] elfy: please check out https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-qa [11:03] ochosi, i suggest just creating -community for community+web+marketing [11:03] ok, fine by me [11:03] we can split later if needed [11:04] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-community [11:04] would be good if you could note that straight away in the bp [11:04] actually i think i'll create another one for -web [11:04] because then the LP teams make sense [11:04] k [11:04] * knome does magics [11:05] ask me what ochosi, knome? [11:06] slickymasterWork: i didn't wanna ask you anything, however, your blueprint link is coming up in a minute.. [11:07] slickymasterWork, i was just messing around with everybody later [11:07] heh, I was wondering when will we start seting up those [11:07] eh, earlier [11:07] :P [11:07] ok [11:08] slickymasterWork: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-docs [11:08] great, thanks ochosi [11:08] sorry for being a bit late with that [11:08] using the whiteboard here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-development [11:09] knome: so no -marketing? [11:09] !team | please add any items you'd like to be considered for development this cycle https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-development [11:09] never ever ever works for me [11:09] ochosi, there is no marketing LP team, let's group it under .community [11:09] - too [11:10] !team [11:10] bluesabre, elfy, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster, Unit193 [11:10] see above [11:10] :) [11:10] ochosi, if pleia2 gets sad, then i'll split it for her [11:10] hmm, i'm not sure if that came out all right [11:10] hehe, "nice" [11:10] ok, gotta run, bbl [11:10] thanks for getting things rolling, guys [11:10] :) [11:11] anyway, all blueprints set up [11:11] k, now the pinging begins... [11:11] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-community [11:12] pleia2, elfy: you have inherited work items in that BP (carried on from last cycle) [11:12] Unit193, Noskcaj: we've set up the development blueprint here. if you have ideas/suggestions, note them on the whiteboard for now. if you wanna take up one of the existing ideas as a task for 15.10, please add it as a workitem assigned to yourself: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-development [11:13] lderan: you can pull something from that list as well, if you're interested [11:13] (panel switch is an interesting one) [11:13] indeed [11:13] +1 [11:21] lderan: actually it would be nice to track the meetingology stuff in the development blueprint [11:21] ochosi, i would vote for -communit [11:21] +y [11:21] yeah, that's fine too [11:22] just in some blueprint would be nice [11:22] otherwise it's not really on the radar [11:22] yep [11:22] ...bleep...bleep...bleep... [11:22] * knome does his infamous radar imitation [11:22] ochosi: oo [11:26] knome: nope - I don't have a 2 legged desk - it has just the one [11:27] even better :P [11:28] totally :D [11:28] ochosi: thanks ... I especially like the workitems [11:29] yup, well obviously you gotta fill in the blanks yourself ;) [11:29] collect £200 go straight to 100% on topic progress [11:29] oh bah [11:32] knome: yep - expected that to turn up on the wibbly blueprint [11:33] the inheritance that is [11:34] bluesabre: was the -bugs blueprint at all useful? [11:34] oh nvm - I see ochosi built it :) [11:34] knome at some point we'll have to gather to discuss the best approach to deal with the third item in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-docs [11:34] yeah, +1 for -bugs [11:35] elfy: i pulled in the open bugs from 15.04 that made sense [11:35] slickymasterWork, propose dylan that he comes to IRC some time and schedule a meeting with us, him and somebody technical [11:35] elfy: feel free to add new ones as you notice them [11:36] ochosi: ack [11:52] bluesabre: would you mind setting the "in development"-wallpaper for 15.10 when you're around again? [13:37] ok, knome, I'll mail him and to schedule it and then I'll warn you and bluesabre of when it's going to be [16:19] elfy: ok, we have a fix for xfpm in git. if you wanna rebuild cleanly from git without any patches and test that... [16:24] so many pings [16:24] I thought I missed a meeting :) [16:24] well, sort of ;) [16:25] knome: thanks for updating the blueprints [16:25] pleia2: so i didn't set up a marketing blueprint cause knome said it should go in community [16:25] yeah, that's fine [16:25] k [16:25] if you feel you need one during the cycle, we can always set one up [16:26] * pleia2 nods [16:27] ochosi: ack - did that - have icon [16:27] \o/ [16:28] eric_the_idiot_: ^ [16:28] awesome! [16:28] let us know if it goes missing later :) [16:28] elfy: i guess if you added the shimmer daily ppa for an up-to-date elementary-xfce, all the icons should be fixed now [16:28] incl the symbolic icons for the plugin [16:28] ochosi: had that since whenever [16:29] and symbolic icons is one of those it's an ellipse no it's not things ... [16:29] wouldn't know a symbolic icon from not [16:30] though it doesn't appear any different than before to me [16:31] changes when panel size increases [16:34] eric_the_idiot_: ack [16:35] mmm [16:36] synaptic showing xfpm from staging [16:37] I guess it'd not show the one I built from git [16:55] bluesabre: Libreoffice also includes x-d-s update. [16:55] I'm working on the packagesets now FWIW [17:13] elfy: yeah, you'd have to uninstall first [17:16] ochosi: that's what I thought [17:17] so I did - which removes the other 2 xfce4-power-*packages - then there's no plugin available to add to panel [17:28] did you compile with "./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr"? [17:29] http://pastebin.com/wMFXmxVx [17:29] ochosi: ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --enable-debug=yes [17:29] k, sorry, i gotta run, i can look again tomorrow if that's ok [17:30] of course it is :) [17:31] k, ttyl then :) [19:18] is there a reason we're seeding apt-offline? [19:18] skellat had a reason. [19:18] * micahg digs through bzr [19:19] It's in the docs too. [19:19] Think a meeting had it. The docs has a very good write up though, linked to it elsewhere. Think something along the lines of it being small and very useful for those in spotchy internet places. [19:20] sigh, and he quotes me [19:20] Oh? [19:20] ah, I see the comment now [19:20] http://paste.ubuntu.com/11396952/ [19:22] sigh, ok, well, the packagesets aren't getting updated today :( [19:23] :( [22:16] micahg: any concerns wrt aptoffline or,are you trying to get us below 1gb? :) [22:17] sry, meh, typing sucks on the ipad [22:25] ochosi: neither actually, trying to update the packageset first