[00:04] oh qt I guess needs patches.. ew [02:32] sgclark: OK, the problem I was having earlier seems to be a migration issue. I performed surgery on my .kde .local and .config folders and kept only what I needed; so far Dolphin is fine. [02:33] oh nice! [02:33] But users migrating up will have issues as it affects the performance of kdialog [02:33] LibreOffice takes about 45 sec. for the open dialog window to work [02:33] I'd love to know what settings caused all of this. [02:35] well I did notice that kdelibs was not uploaded, it has been now, things will probably need rebuilt. I will let you know when I have done that (not likely tonight) === ahoneybun changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | Status: Applications 15.04.1 Vivid http://goo.gl/nf5Z40 | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Kubuntu at SELF! http://www.southeastlinuxfest.org/ | Meeting Log @15:00 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/05/26/%23kubuntu-devel.html (minutes due shortly) | Blog Posts: http://piratepad.net/SMwdzifGFc [02:35] sgclark: the topic is getting so long [02:35] heh [02:35] not sure what can be removed [02:35] I still need to add paslam to that too lol [02:36] err plasma [02:39] is it just me but are all the blog posts gone from fridge.ubuntu.com [02:39] I'm sure I saw ScottK and Riddell's post there [02:39] it's just you [02:40] weird [02:40] night sgclark [02:41] Now to reconfigure my desktop [04:19] <[Relic]> Etriaph, found a bug page for the problem I was having - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341930 - But thanks for the help before trying to figure out why it wasn't working right; hopefully the fix for it will be out soon [04:19] KDE bug 341930 in core "Session management in porting preproc branch" [Minor,Confirmed] [04:19] [Relic]: Ah, good to know someone knows about it. [04:20] <[Relic]> went to force a session, couldn't figure out how to do that and then found that bug listed [04:21] The start of a new KDE release can be rocky. Once it's 5.3.3 or something I'm sure most of these little things will get resolved. [06:26] sgclark: I just read your post on planet KDE. By reading your post (barrier to entry, CI) reminded me of an interview I had listened to on a podcast and I went on to check, and indeed it was you on Women's Tech Radio! I am happy for you finding your path in the FLOSS way. I will repeat what I said yesterday to Riddell and ScottK. This unprecedented move has no real effect (and probably motive) besides trying to defame Riddell and [06:26] demotivate the Kubuntu team. I say to all the Kubuntu Team to become even more motivated about your project because of this incident and because your project matters. If your project wasn't as important as it is then none of this would happen. You keep alive the true Ubuntu spirit with a true vibrant community and a lot of happy users. [06:34] Here here palasso [06:54] Hugs to palasso! [07:11] Good morning. [11:17] Hiyas all [11:17] Riddell: are you fixing the frameworks on kci? [11:17] it appears frameworks being broken now turned half the apps to the dark side as well [11:19] hi BluesKaj [11:30] Hi clivejo [11:32] I see Jonathans made it onto the register too! - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/27/kubuntu_ubuntu_loses_head_shuttleworth_riddell/ === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work [11:59] palasso: thanks :) === greyback__ is now known as greyback === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [16:00] Maybe somebody would be kind enough to provide packages for Kubuntu? https://userbase.kde.org/Kamoso/3.0#Alpha [16:01] hi apol [16:01] hello [16:01] I have been trying to build purpose [16:01] but not having any luck [16:02] clivejo: what is the issue? perhaps I can help [16:02] apol: we will get it done :) [16:03] clivejo, sgclark: maybe you want to introduce the following patch ef91ff34f6353c30b19f875e5eb15da02c0322e5 [16:03] that helped with KaOS [16:03] QQmlComponent: Component is not ready [16:03] -- Could NOT find QMLModule (missing: Ubuntu.OnlineAccount) (found suitable version "0.1", minimum required is "0.1") [16:03] dbus interface not valid [16:04] that's just a warning [16:04] it's a runtime dependency [16:05] CMake Error at src/plugins/CMakeLists.txt:2 (kcoreaddons_add_plugin): [16:05] Unknown CMake command "kcoreaddons_add_plugin". [16:06] clivejo: what KF5 version are you using? [16:06] wily + next stage 2 ppa [16:06] apol: 5.9 I believe [16:07] we have not yet uploaded 5.10 [16:07] it was introduced in April 20th, on 5f5c73754d70881837455b3d67ee3994f303cbc7 [16:07] ok [16:07] maybe 5.10 is needed [16:08] ok, I will work on 5.10 today then [16:08] Im waiting on new framework [16:08] clivejo: I will let you know when it is ready [16:09] thanks [16:09] as soon as I figure out where Riddell put it [16:09] I cant build Kamoso as it requires purpose [16:09] yep [16:09] said its on a private ftp somewhere? [16:10] hmm he said he started it yesterday so it should be in a ppa and needs fixing likely. I will find it. [16:12] I havent updated today as there were reports of bad breakages [16:13] ahoneybun: I don't see those articles on the fridge either [16:22] apol what version is purpose? [16:23] 0.1alpha [16:23] ? [16:24] Riddell, clivejo: kindly do note that the libkf5purpose has a soversion 5, unless that is lowered to 0 I don't think packaging it is a good idea at this point [16:26] clivejo: yes === Guest82724 is now known as thelionroars [17:16] sgclark: did you find it? [17:16] Riddell: yep :) [17:17] ETA ?? :P [17:17] gosh it will take tim esorry, got many things going [17:18] no problem, Im watching Google IO and having a hearty laugh [17:19] Ill have to update my tractor to Android M and it will do everything for me [17:56] Hello guys. I'm pretty new to Linux/Kubuntu and just noticed that the authentification dialog for root rights (when clicking a .deb package) is in english, but the rest of my desktop is in german and set to german. So i assume there is just a translation missing for that dialog? How can i "help" with that? Is that a KDE Problem or a Kubuntu problem (because it happens when you click a .deb package) [17:56] example: http://i.imgur.com/sIYXxZg.png [17:59] dsDestruktiv: hmm good question, let me investigate [18:11] it's polkit-kde-1 I think [18:11] and it may well be missing picking up some locale setting [18:12] or it may be missing translations [18:26] Riddell: can you give me a quick "starter guide" how i could help with translating stuff that is missing for my language (that dialog ... the "driver manager" in system settings .. when creating new users via gui etc ... parts of it still in english) .. like where do i have to go/look to help? I'm a noob so sorry for that beginner question ;) [18:27] just want to give something back for that amazing system I'm using now for 5 days [18:54] sgclark: OK, so dolphin isn't *quite* fixed. You can add places in dolphin and the weird behavior I saw was repaired by my removing all non-essential configuration from ~/.local ~/.kde and ~/.config But, you can't add a place to *only* dolphin. Setting it to display the place while running Dolphin only has no effect. [18:54] Etriaph: is this with 15.04.1 ? [18:54] sgclark: Yup. [18:55] ok, yeah I need to rebuild everything, then, dernit. [18:55] Aww, sorry :( [18:55] may as well go back to previous till I get that done [18:55] np, the life of a packager lol [18:56] I'd like to get ahoneybun and I together to document that packaging process at some point, if one of us can get trained. Would speed up getting people in the drivers seat in that regard. [18:56] but thanks for testing! imagine that going out to everyone... [18:56] yes we need more packagers for certain [18:56] my problem is time, I put on too many hats between kubuntu and kde : / [18:57] or I would train everyone! lol [18:57] sgclark: Give a man a fish, feed him today. Teach him to fish, feed him for life. :D [18:58] very true [18:58] Etriaph: learn RST :) [18:58] ahoneybun: I'm a rails developer, RST and MD were kind of in my path learning their framework. [18:58] Perhapps we need a "packaging day" where we can all sit down and train en mass [18:58] :) then you would teach me XD [18:59] sgclark: ++ [18:59] sgclark: At some point when Riddell has the time for it (I know he's working with KDDA on it right now) I'm going to take his training and write a manual of sorts. [18:59] That would be wonderful [18:59] and yes he is a great teacher, he taught me [19:00] ahoneybun: What about RST is troubling you? [19:01] sgclark: I've written enough manuals in the private sector for clients that it shouldn't be an obstacle to document it. [19:01] Etriaph: nothing I'm loving it lol [19:01] wow great! [19:01] atm anything [19:01] ahoneybun: Oh :D [19:02] Ugh, pulseaudio ftl [19:04] Or alsa rather. [19:06] OK, quick reboot. [19:16] err someone broke the status pages.. can't see what the dependency it is waiting on :( [19:20] sgclark: yesterday there was a problem with digikam kgeomap, when I look at the packages I generated there is a libkgeomap2 package [19:21] I did a apt-get update yesterday and got digikam from the archive, which is missing the geomapping stuff [19:22] reinstall the packages I built and it works [19:30] clivejo: right. We can't use the geomapping version until 15.04.1 gets uploaded. Which unfortunately has to be rebuilt. [19:30] its a shared package? [19:31] libkgeomap yep [19:31] oh right [19:32] what is holding 15.04.1 up? [19:36] sgclark: I made http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.10.0_wily.html [19:38] hi Riddell [19:47] hello world [19:47] any council members in here? [19:49] I'd like to ask for some advice [19:50] that was a long reboot @ Etriaph, did you have problems? [19:50] clivejo: Uh, no, I rebooted then went to fetch a coffee, then had to make some.. :D [19:51] * genii 's ears perk up for a second [19:51] Though I've learned for the future that if alsa 'glitches' I should unplug then plug back in my headphone jack [19:52] When I want to use the mix I have to do the same. [19:52] s/mix/mic [19:52] I'll send an email [19:54] send it to the KC ML ovidiu-florin :) [19:54] ahoneybun: that's what I meant [19:54] actually I'll send it to devel [19:54] so everyone can comment [20:07] hiho\ [20:08] hi soee [20:09] /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER dsDestruktiv xvyrrvzkskhp [20:09] oups [20:09] omg ... this is why copy&paste sucks guys -.- [20:10] LOL [20:10] :D [20:10] oh, just add credentials to your fav irc client [20:10] congrats on a hard to guess password though! [20:12] clivejo: its just for completing registration/verifying email, not the actual password ^^ [20:12] so it is! [20:14] clivejo: the hold up it I am one person working on 15.04.1 (needs rebuild) , 5.3.1 plasma, 5.10.0 kf5 + I operate the CI @ build.kde.org + I have family in town all next week and I must clean this pig sty I call a home. Sorry. [20:15] sgclark: Im not assigning blame or anything like that, just wondering if there are problems and if there is any way to help [20:16] you guys are doing a great job! [20:18] perhap figure how to clone people lol [20:18] I particularily would like one to clean my house. [20:21] ahoneybun: you around/???????? [20:22] yea ovidiu-florin [20:22] can I call you????? [20:22] sure? [20:22] what is with all the "????" [20:23] finger got stuck [20:23] lol [20:25] ScottK: around? [20:25] that was a bit over a min btw ovidiu-florin but its cool [20:26] not sure about the price of the call but can't be to crazy of a price [20:27] sick_rimmit: Rick! [20:27] ahoneybun: Hey buddy :-) [20:28] wonderful video you made [20:29] Thanks, I just felt like doing it, after reading Scarlets blog [20:30] Got a great comment on YouTube, from a Rich oliver, who lives near by to me and wants to help promote Kubuntu in the UK [20:31] This is good [20:31] have faith guys :) kubuntu is better and better [20:31] * sick_rimmit believes [20:31] * ahoneybun knows it [20:31] my promo website is under construction [20:31] got a link? [20:31] will promot kubutnu even more :) [20:31] thats cool sick_rimmit [20:32] Ace, ovidiu-florina ahoneybun and I have a new Kubuntu Podcast ( Video and Audio ) coming, perhaps it can go on your website soee [20:32] sick_rimmit: i need some time to get it done but yes - i want there a lot of videos [20:33] sick_rimmit: be awesome to have a episode at Akademy :) [20:33] *an [20:33] soee: in your own time, no pressure.. [20:33] * ahoneybun needs to get to work on the Doc move [20:34] Well it will be up on YouTube on the 17th almost as soon as we finish it [20:34] I hope to complete the audio render within 1 week of each recording, and put them somewhere on the web [20:36] sick_rimmit: https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual [20:37] sick_rimmit: Will you be sending a link to those videos to the mailing lists? [20:38] Yes, well I hope someone will, like perhaps ahoneybun or ovidiu-florin [20:38] We have Kubuntu Podcast Google+ page [20:38] and a YouTube Channel [20:38] So I guess we can promote, the shows before and after production by sharing those channels on list [20:39] I'll shot them on all our MLs [20:39] Excellent [20:41] Who is in the Kubuntu Docs team ? [20:42] I think me lol [20:42] Thats some team! [20:42] :D [20:42] I mean valorie does help a lot with ideas and proofreads for me [20:43] ovidiu-florin helps as well from the techinical side [20:44] * sick_rimmit dives off to terminal land to clone the Kubuntu-Docs repo [20:44] soee: what promo site? [20:45] my -manual on github or the -docs on LP sick_rimmit? [20:45] Your manual [20:45] same stuff really but I took some dead links in my -manual that was in the -docs and userbase pages [20:46] ok cool [20:46] I thought I might create a branch, and write a bunch of old waffle.. [20:46] on mine I call it -manual to tie into ubuntu-manual and lubuntu-manual to make things more unified [20:46] see I can get pull request... we'll see [20:47] * ahoneybun is doing a talk on it at SELF XD [20:47] Ooohh! [20:48] yea [20:49] Oh dear... [20:49] can I see the youtube video? [20:49] * sick_rimmit needs a crash course in RST and Sphinx [20:50] sick_rimmit: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/user/rst/quickref.html#example-foldin [20:50] sick_rimmit: in a few mins I'm going to push a update [20:50] just a heads up [20:51] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI3bVcTW-y0 [20:51] Then how about something a bit more light heared [20:51] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUQH7CyKiuY [20:51] * sick_rimmit is such an idiot [20:51] ah, you're rick! [20:52] * sick_rimmit nods [20:52] XDDDDDDDDD [20:53] it was not bad really [20:54] pretty good [20:55] krunner is using alt+space now right? [20:55] in 15.04? [20:55] yup [20:56] alt+f2 no loner works? [20:56] longer [20:56] both work [20:56] ok cool [20:56] I [20:56] I'll stick with one in the Docs though [20:56] alt+f2 [20:57] since all the old stuff will have that [20:59] any problems so far with RST sick_rimmit? [21:00] ahoneybun: I haven't looked at it yet, I'm afraid that'll have to be enough [21:00] time this evening [21:00] oh np [21:00] I suppose I thought it would be an ODT [21:00] I'll be around if you have any question or need help [21:00] or a Scribus file [21:01] But I need to look at Sphinx for work, so it'll happen [21:01] its pretty damn cool [21:01] I can get HTML out of it, LaTex, ePub [21:01] PDF [21:01] PDF(LaTeX [21:03] * ahoneybun looks at ovidiu-florin's email [21:05] umm, I have my own web server VPS [21:05] just an fyi [21:07] sgclark: so do I [21:07] okies [21:07] but I'm barely maintaing it [21:08] and it's the lowest spec [21:08] I admit it is alot of work [21:08] I don't think it would handle the Kubuntu site [21:08] that I should probably not offer to add on to lol [21:08] plus, the offer I've presented, takes care of everything [21:09] omg Kate why you hate me [21:09] is -j4 option in debuild threads or cores? [21:12] Kate doesn't hate. [21:12] * Etriaph hugs Kate [21:14] * ahoneybun grabs water [21:16] ahoneybun: it's not Kate [21:16] it's KDEinit [21:17] clivejo: processes [21:18] got Kate to work [21:22] Is there an issue with hosting for the Kubuntu site ? [21:25] * sick_rimmit reads his email and answers his own question [21:25] * sick_rimmit is not multi-threaded ;-( [21:29] * clivejo adds another thread [21:29] sick_rimmit -j2 [21:43] clivejo: Oo thanks very much [21:43] * sick_rimmit look 2 hands [21:44] very welcome [21:44] OK, Folks its that time of night, I've got to go, nite all [21:45] hi - is there an ETA on the plasma 5.3.1 release ? (I know you have had some sort of minor 'management issues') [21:47] damn [21:47] was going to tell him I pushed the changes [21:49] ps - seems that the treatment of Riddell was totally unfair. [21:50] who controls the mailing list? [21:51] the both -devel and -user === a|wen is now known as a|wen- === a|wen- is now known as a|wen [21:55] Guest2455: 5.3.1 is a bit delayed, no ETA just as soon as someone with experience gets it sorted! [22:06] clivejo: groovy! [22:11] Riddell: valorie or shadeslayer I need some help with the -devel ML [22:13] mvn [22:13] nvm [22:15] * ahoneybun got around to getting back on the ML's [22:40] ahoneybun: back, looking [22:45] nvm [22:47] you mean you successfully subbed? [22:48] yea I'll keep both emails on there [22:48] you can set one as nomail if you want [22:48] a convenient way to be able to post from whatever [22:49] oh [22:50] valorie: updated: https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual [22:54] cool [22:55] gotta read up; been weeding out in the yard [23:05] Er.. k3b doesn't work anymore. [23:05] * Etriaph cries. [23:05] Etriaph: You have to provide more information, does it crash or something? [23:06] Quintasan: Just going through the steps before I log a bug. It claims it can't burn the disk due to low disk space; burning an audio disc with 9.8GB free on the / partition [23:06] This is a CD I assume? [23:06] I'm using the next-stage2 PPA [23:06] Yes [23:07] >Kubuntu Next Stage 2 (DON'T USE) [23:07] I'm plenty we the stuff there can be broken. [23:08] OK, I got it working, it couldn't write to the /tmp folder so I switched the dir to something in /home [23:08] Odd though, never experienced that before [23:09] Etriaph: I believe that /tmp is a normal directory in / [23:09] unless you did something like mounting it to tmpfs [23:09] Nope. [23:10] And I can write to that folder, did: touch /tmp/test.txt [23:10] Etriaph: Can has output of df -ha ? [23:11] https://paste.kde.org/pt92sxsku [23:11] Sysinfo for 'eden': Running inside KDE Plasma 5 on Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) powered by Linux 3.19.0-18-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz at 1634-2420/3900 MHz, RAM: 7454/7945 MB, Storage: 470/1047 GB, 291 procs, 4.05h up [23:11] If that's relevant [23:11] I could venture a guess that it either ran out of memory [23:11] or tried to write to /run [23:12] But it didn't run out of memory when I changed it to ~/Documents/K3B Temp [23:12] And it was trying to write to /tmp/some_random_string [23:12] hmm [23:12] Etriaph: ls -al /tmp please [23:13] https://paste.kde.org/p2jhlqxcf [23:14] Alright, I'm out of ideas. [23:14] :D [23:14] I burned the disc, I'm all good. [23:15] Etriaph: yay! https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/blob/master/source/docs/repositories.rst [23:16] ahoneybun: Please do note you can use shorthand notation when adding PPAs: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports [23:17] ahoneybun: I'll do some pull-requests later next week if you don't mind [23:17] I don't mind one bit Quintasan and thanks for the tip [23:18] * ahoneybun is just learning git [23:18] * Etriaph updates clone [23:18] Err.. my copy is up to date.. [23:18] ? [23:18] I just pushed a update 2hrs ago [23:19] Did: git pull origin master [23:21] Did you commit then push? [23:22] Ya, it's on gh, wth [23:22] Oh, nvm, I'm crazy. I forked it and I was trying to update my fork. [23:23] ahoneybun: Did you read Pro Git? [23:25] ahoneybun: If not then - https://progit.org/ . I have taught several people git and it usually solved most of the problems and/or misconceptions they had. [23:25] did not know about that Quintasan, thanks [23:26] I'll look at it when I get back brb [23:31] OK, all good now. [23:31] * Etriaph used CVS and SVN for a looooong time. [23:33] ahoneybun: It's coming along nicely, good screen caps :D [23:41] thanks Etriaph :) [23:47] * ahoneybun reads Pro Git [23:52] ahoneybun: If you haven't used it yet, qgit is a nice graphical client. [23:53] ahoneybun: Until I started using a JetBrains IDE full time, I used that quite a bit.