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| Tm_T | hello | 05:32 |
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| Tm_T | I noticed that Ubuntu phone's web browser has Android user agent, this creates harsh situation at times where sites try forcefeed Android app instead of showing the site | 05:33 |
| Tm_T | a good example is Google Music which I cannot reach at the moment due to this | 05:33 |
| Tm_T | is there known way to change user agent without creating some web app klik package or some other workaround? | 05:34 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:04 |
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| sturmflut2 | popey, mzanetti: Ping | 08:37 |
| popey | sturmflut2: pongs | 08:37 |
| sturmflut2 | popey: Have you seen https://uappexplorer.com/app/neverball.lb and https://uappexplorer.com/app/neverputt.lb? | 08:37 |
| popey | I am shaing on twitter/g+ as I type :) | 08:38 |
| popey | it runs flawlessly | 08:38 |
| sturmflut2 | popey: I was a bit jealous at first that they got it working before me ;) but I didn't have the necessary time anyways | 08:40 |
| mzanetti | sturmflut2, what's with that? | 08:40 |
| sturmflut2 | mzanetti: Two libSDL based games in the store! | 08:41 |
| mzanetti | oh! | 08:41 |
| sturmflut2 | mzanetti: With Touch support and tilt sensors and everything! And blazingly fast on the bq! | 08:42 |
| mzanetti | that's nice | 08:43 |
| popey | yeah, it's really impressive | 08:43 |
| popey | https://github.com/pseuudonym404 | 08:44 |
| popey | code on github | 08:44 |
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| popey | they start _instantly_ too | 08:45 |
| sturmflut2 | popey: Yeah! | 08:45 |
| ogra_ | how do they handle the app lifecycle mgmt | 08:45 |
| ogra_ | did you check that ? | 08:46 |
| popey | yes | 08:46 |
| popey | it works as expected | 08:46 |
| ogra_ | cool | 08:46 |
| popey | i have both games "running" | 08:46 |
| popey | http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-05-28-093841.png | 08:46 |
| ogra_ | yay | 08:46 |
| ogra_ | and a GPS to tell you where to put the ball ! | 08:47 |
| popey | apparmor profile just says "audio" and "sensors" | 08:47 |
| popey | haha | 08:47 |
| sturmflut2 | ogra_: Do they have to handle the App Lifecycle somehow? Doesn't Unity8 just tell the kernel to stop the app process? | 08:47 |
| popey | sturmflut2: there was a problem with OpenAL not getting stopped when playing audio | 08:47 |
| popey | guess this app does audio differently | 08:47 |
| ogra_ | sturmflut2, well, if they get killed due to OOM and restarted ... | 08:47 |
| popey | not tested that | 08:47 |
| sturmflut2 | ogra_: Ah, yes, that would be a problem. | 08:48 |
| * sturmflut2 didn't think of all edge cases | 08:48 | |
| ogra_ | for that case the app needs to do something and save its state | 08:48 |
| ogra_ | or you come back to it and it only starts newly, losing your progress | 08:48 |
| popey | I'm just impressed how well an SDL game works on Mir | 08:48 |
| popey | also, it ships with very few libraries bundled in | 08:48 |
| ogra_ | it is gigantic ... still downloading here :) | 08:49 |
| popey | 123M in total 118M of which is level data | 08:49 |
| popey | app itself is 1.2M and the res is libs | 08:49 |
| ogra_ | well, i started with neverball, thats only 52B | 08:49 |
| popey | 123 unpacked | 08:49 |
| ogra_ | oh | 08:49 |
| popey | guess the data compresses well | 08:50 |
| popey | next step - make a multi-arch version for the intel tablets :) | 08:50 |
| ogra_ | lol | 08:51 |
| sturmflut2 | Okay, they use the same approach as I did in the beginning: the .desktop file points to a shell script, which sets the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the included libSDL2-2.0.so.0 and then runs the binary. That could be simplified, as I have learned from mzanetti's Network Scanner | 08:53 |
| mzanetti | sturmflut2, it probably has to for multiarch | 08:54 |
| mzanetti | unless the script fiddles with that... | 08:55 |
| mzanetti | but the lib folder in click packages exists for every arch and is automatically set up for the proper arch | 08:55 |
| ogra_ | wow, really nice on the arale :) | 08:55 |
| sturmflut2 | mzanetti: Yeah, I learned that trick with the lib folder by spying on you | 08:56 |
| ogra_ | sturmflut2, you shouldnt need to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH at all | 08:57 |
| ogra_ | (as long as you ship your libs in the right location in the click) | 08:57 |
| ogra_ | ubuntu-app-launch exports it when it runs the .desktop file | 08:58 |
| ogra_ | https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/platform/guides/app-confinement/ (see "Runtime Environment") | 08:59 |
| ogra_ | so who packages dota2 now ? | 09:02 |
| ogra_ | :) | 09:02 |
| popey | heh | 09:02 |
| popey | so what is the "right" location in the click? | 09:02 |
| popey | libs/triple ? | 09:02 |
| ogra_ | see the page above | 09:02 |
| popey | k | 09:02 |
| ogra_ | ./lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ | 09:03 |
| ogra_ | for arm | 09:03 |
| popey | yay | 09:03 |
| popey | tested that and it works | 09:04 |
| ogra_ | i386-linux-gnu for i386 and x86_64-linux-gnu for amd64 | 09:04 |
| popey | will file an issue on github, because that way we can get an x86 build in | 09:04 |
| popey | although the main binary is arch specific so that will need work too | 09:04 |
| ogra_ | yep | 09:04 |
| ogra_ | :) | 09:04 |
| ogra_ | well, see PATH in the page | 09:04 |
| ogra_ | you can just ship two binaries | 09:05 |
| ogra_ | same setup :) | 09:05 |
| popey | nice | 09:05 |
| ogra_ | (just with /bin) | 09:05 |
| dholbach | fgimenez, brendand: do you think we should go ahead and upload the selenium change to wily already? | 09:10 |
| fgimenez | dholbach, not sure, i have this https://code.launchpad.net/~fgimenez/+junk/python-selenium that builds fine with a recipe, but still ships the binaries | 09:16 |
| fgimenez | dholbach, zigo proposed bundling the binaries in a separate package and upload that to non-free in debian | 09:17 |
| dholbach | hum | 09:18 |
| dholbach | so that'd be a separate source package or separate binary package? | 09:19 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Amnesty International Day! 😃 | 09:20 |
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| fgimenez | dholbach, i guess a separate source package but without compilation, just including the binaries that come in the selenium source | 09:39 |
| fgimenez | dholbach, if the debian upload doesn't go ahead we can try also removing the binaries, in this case we should check that this doesn't break anything with previous versions of ff | 09:40 |
| fgimenez | dholbach, don't know if shipping the binaries is acceptable in terms of licenses, etc | 09:41 |
| dholbach | as the separate source package will have to go through NEW anyway, it might make sense to upload your patch already :) | 09:43 |
| dholbach | and make the selenium-modules-non-free package (or whatever it's going to be called) conflicts/replaces: python-selenium << 2.45.0~ | 09:44 |
| fgimenez | dholbach, yes, for uploading the patch into debian it must be a NMU, we are waiting for a possible response from the original maintainer | 09:47 |
| dholbach | ok | 09:49 |
| dholbach | and uploading it to wily already? | 09:49 |
| fgimenez | dholbach, i'm not sure, should it include the binaries? should we split the package in free/non-free (not sure how is this done in ubuntu)? | 09:51 |
| dholbach | fgimenez, I prepared a build in a vm and these seem to be the difference in terms of contents of the binary packages: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11408827/ | 09:53 |
| dholbach | do we know if users rely on the precompiled firefox webdriver files? | 09:53 |
| dholbach | ... and if the update will break things | 09:57 |
| dholbach | ? | 09:57 |
| fgimenez | dholbach, no idea, we should check that of course, i think elopio mentioned that he was going to try with old ff versions | 10:00 |
| dholbach | fgimenez, ok... I was just asking about wily because it might help to get it out for testing and backport it, so more folks can make use of it for html5 apps | 10:02 |
| dholbach | (it's part of the default html5 app template in the sdk already) | 10:03 |
| dholbach | maybe you can discuss it with elopio | 10:03 |
| dholbach | let me know if you need somebody to upload it to wily | 10:03 |
| fgimenez | dholbach, ok thx, i'll ping you back | 10:06 |
| dholbach | rock and roll | 10:06 |
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| jgdx | question, if I'm on 15.10 on the phone, can I somehow change the channel to vivid+stable? | 11:21 |
| jgdx | and then just magically receive stable updates :p | 11:21 |
| jgdx | that sounded bad when writing it out loud | 11:21 |
| sturmflut2 | jgdx: The "system-image-cli" command on the phone has a "--switch" parameter | 11:45 |
| sturmflut2 | jgdx: I am not sure how it handles this case though | 11:46 |
| jgdx | yeah, might as well just flash it | 11:48 |
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| brunch875 | is the next OTA wily? | 13:10 |
| DanChapman | vivid | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | no, wily will not come to phones | 13:11 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, jgdx, btw I plan to look at migrating u-s-s to newer Ubuntu Component version (1.2) and replace deprecated listitems by the new listitem widget | 13:15 |
| Elleo | ogra_: out of curiosity, any idea if there'll be a new framework release based on the vivid overlay at somepoint? with wily being skipped it'd mean a year before any new APIs could be introduced otherwise | 13:15 |
| seb128 | we use outdated versions and have bugs and runtime warnings due to that | 13:16 |
| kenvandine | seb128, yeah, that would be awesome | 13:16 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, jgdx: I'm probably going to do it in chunks, not all panels together, easier to review/test and trying to avoid conflicts in things that have pending refactoring | 13:17 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, you haven't seen any issues with libqofono in silo 36 have you? | 13:17 |
| jgdx | seb128, that'd be sweet! | 13:17 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, other than it not building? or running uss? | 13:18 |
| kenvandine | libqofono built fine :) | 13:18 |
| jgdx | oh ok | 13:19 |
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| jgdx | kenvandine, no, but haven't look specifically | 13:19 |
| jgdx | I'll do that now | 13:19 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, did you get to test the reset context stuff? | 13:19 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, yes | 13:19 |
| kenvandine | basically i want to change the version revision from 3.1 to 4, because that's the version i want to land in wily | 13:20 |
| kenvandine | but if i bump it, and we change the patch at all... it gets annoying | 13:20 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, ok, i'm going to upload 0.70-0ubuntu4 to the ppa for wily then | 13:23 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, but | 13:23 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, it was never tested with the change to nuntium or networkmanager | 13:23 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, oh... maybe we should actually create a new silo for wily... | 13:24 |
| jgdx | though it is unlikely that a change in libqofono will be needed if that process fails... | 13:24 |
| kenvandine | and keep this silo for the overlay/vivid backport | 13:24 |
| kenvandine | since we have a proper libqofono for vivid overlay in this silo | 13:24 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, in fact, libqofono could just go to wily now right? | 13:25 |
| kenvandine | i could just upload it to wily and keep the silo simple for you | 13:26 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, sure | 13:27 |
| jgdx | thanks | 13:27 |
| jgdx | 3.1 seems to work very well from a lot of phonesim testing | 13:27 |
| kenvandine | is the ofono reset context changes in wily? | 13:27 |
| kenvandine | yes it si | 13:28 |
| kenvandine | is | 13:28 |
| kenvandine | cool | 13:28 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, yep according to 1338758 | 13:28 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, ok, settings is building in silo 33 | 13:33 |
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| ogra_ | Elleo, oh, no idea, thats a question for the SDK team i guess | 14:16 |
| Elleo | ogra_: okay, will poke give them a poke and see what the plan is | 14:17 |
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| peat-psuwit | abeato, awe: Can user_data passed into g_ril_send be freed in callback. | 15:07 |
| peat-psuwit | Idea is passing single instance of struct and pass it into multiple calls of g_ril_send, keeping ref count, and when callback is called, check ref count and free it if ref count is 0 | 15:09 |
| peat-psuwit | s/passing/creating/ | 15:09 |
| awe | peat-psuwit, if you don't pass in a destroy func, the user_data won't be cleaned up when the callback is processed | 15:11 |
| awe | s/destroy func/notify func/ | 15:11 |
| awe | well, actually it's type is GDestroyNotify | 15:12 |
| awe | and the param name is 'notify' | 15:12 |
| awe | so if you don't provide a func, then user_data won't be touched when the response for a sent request is handled | 15:12 |
| peat-psuwit | awe: So it's OK if user_data is freed when the callback return, right? | 15:13 |
| awe | if you want to free it in your callback, you can | 15:14 |
| awe | but again, to do so, you'd pass NULL as the last arg in g_ril_send () | 15:14 |
| awe | the GDestroyNotify parameter is just a convenience mechanism | 15:15 |
| peat-psuwit | awe: Thanks. | 15:17 |
| awe | peat-psuwit, np | 15:17 |
| cm-t | Test dc | 15:27 |
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| seb128 | kenvandine, jgdx, was there any fix you were still trying to land for ota4 u-s-s? | 16:41 |
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| seb128 | hum | 17:28 |
| seb128 | when a device doesn't boot anymore | 17:29 |
| seb128 | (stucked on the ubuntu logo) | 17:29 |
| seb128 | what's the right way to restore it? | 17:29 |
| seb128 | I tried to boot in fastboot mode but and do a u-d-f boostrap but the device says that recovery doesn't support it | 17:29 |
| ogra_ | you need a recovery with adb in it | 17:31 |
| kenvandine | seb128, nothing else for settings for ota4 | 17:32 |
| seb128 | ogra_, and if I don't have that, what can I do? | 17:32 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, k, you are not trying to land the network and battery graph init fixes anymore? | 17:33 |
| ogra_ | seb128, http://askubuntu.com/questions/602035/how-do-i-use-ubuntu-device-flash-with-the-bq-aquaris-e4-5 | 17:33 |
| ogra_ | seb128, there is a download link and instructions | 17:34 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i don't think they are on the ota4 list | 17:35 |
| kenvandine | so waiting | 17:35 |
| seb128 | ogra_, the device in an arale not a bq | 17:35 |
| ogra_ | seb128, oh | 17:36 |
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| nik90 | With Android M, apps will no longer request permissions while installing it but rather when you start using a specific feature similar to UT. Looks like Google is learning ;) | 18:52 |
| kenvandine | nik90, indeed :) | 18:57 |
| brunch875 | will telegram go smoother if I clear history? | 19:11 |
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| Lihis | Hi all | 20:43 |
| jgdx | seb128, did you see the mako thread? | 20:51 |
| seb128 | jgdx, no, about? | 20:51 |
| jgdx | seb128, mako not booting, stuck on logo | 20:51 |
| seb128 | jgdx, no, but I don't own a mako | 20:51 |
| seb128 | I also fixed my arale issue | 20:51 |
| seb128 | if that's what you were replying to | 20:51 |
| jgdx | (wifi died) | 20:53 |
| jgdx | seb128, right, never mind! | 20:53 |
| jgdx | I had to nuke the cache to fix my prob | 20:54 |
| seb128 | jgdx, thanks for replying! | 20:54 |
| jgdx | :) | 20:54 |
| Lihis | Can someone help me to debug recovery segmentation fault? | 20:55 |
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| mariogrip | if i switch Ubuntu image channel (bq device), will the apps and data be wiped? | 21:29 |
| nik90 | mariogrip: not unless you explicitly use the --bootstrap argument. | 21:36 |
| nik90 | mariogrip: as in --bootstrap will wipe all data... | 21:36 |
| mariogrip | nik90: Okay, thanks. i will switch to rc-proposed then. | 21:36 |
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| Pogi_ | Name yogmog | 22:27 |
| jeeepeee | Hello ! Is there someone knowing how to install ubuntu touch on a meizu mx4 ? | 22:39 |
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