| cjbayliss | join #elementary | 02:56 |
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| cjbayliss | sorroy | 02:56 |
| * cjbayliss forgot the '/' | 02:57 | |
| ochosi | morning everyone | 07:31 |
| ochosi | elfy: lemme know when you're around for further testing instructions | 07:31 |
| elfy | around for ~1 hour now - then back this afternoon - currently I am back with the -staging xfpm - ended up with none at all and screen turning off @10minutes without | 07:33 |
| ochosi | :) | 07:36 |
| ochosi | ok, wanna give git master another try? if not, that's fine too, i'll do a release maybe next week and that'll then land in -staging | 07:36 |
| elfy | mmm | 07:41 |
| elfy | so removing staging xfpm marks -plugins for removal | 07:41 |
| elfy | building from git - The program 'xfce4-power-manager' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: when I try and run it | 07:42 |
| elfy | got it | 07:42 |
| elfy | right - so got it built - xfpm running - but no power plugin available | 07:43 |
| ochosi | but that used to work, no? | 07:51 |
| elfy | yep | 07:51 |
| ochosi | i'll quickly check myself | 07:52 |
| elfy | ok | 07:52 |
| ochosi | hm, strange | 07:53 |
| elfy | working for you? | 07:53 |
| ochosi | seems i can reproduce that part | 07:53 |
| ochosi | i'll check what's going on there | 07:54 |
| ochosi | i don't remember changing anything in the build process | 07:54 |
| elfy | okey doke | 07:55 |
| elfy | if you find something and change it let me know and when I'm about I will go for it :) | 07:55 |
| ochosi | ok, thanks! | 07:58 |
| elfy | don't sound so surprised :p | 08:01 |
| ochosi | hehe | 08:01 |
| ochosi | so it seems the plugin stuff does get built but not installed | 08:02 |
| ochosi | i wonder why that would be, when nothing changed wrt build | 08:02 |
| ochosi | oh | 08:07 |
| elfy | I'll ponder the oh when I return - cya later :) | 08:07 |
| ochosi | hehe, good. hf! | 08:08 |
| ochosi | elfy: in case it only says "Build panel plugins:yes" after running autogen and not " Xfce plugins: yes" below it, then you're missing some dependency | 08:10 |
| ochosi | the main suspect would be libxfce4panel-2.0-dev | 08:12 |
| ochosi | that is what was missing for me | 08:12 |
| ochosi | also, please pull again from git, i pushed another tiny fix | 08:28 |
| Noskcaj | ochosi, Do you want the ppa to build xfpm from git or is that too volatile? | 08:37 |
| ochosi | actually for what we have in git master now, that'd be perfect for staging, if you have time | 08:37 |
| ochosi | needs just a bit more testing and then i can go ahead and release 1.5.1 | 08:37 |
| elfy | ochosi: ack done that - built - added - have white icon now for the plugin - assume that's \o/ back off out now | 09:52 |
| ochosi | elfy: yes! :) switch to a different theme with white panel and you'll see the magic | 09:59 |
| Noskcaj | ochosi, Tomorrow morning i have to fix xfce 4.12 in tanglu, then i'll look into making that work | 10:22 |
| ochosi | Noskcaj: no worries, elfy already (successfully) tested, so i'd say you can wait until there's a new dev-release | 10:23 |
| Noskcaj | ok | 10:23 |
| Noskcaj | I do need to learn launchpad recipes anyway though, i think they work in this situation | 10:23 |
| ochosi | hey bluesabre | 10:41 |
| bluesabre | hey ochosi | 10:41 |
| ochosi | thanks for adding the workitems | 10:43 |
| ochosi | the whole puzzles launcher only makes sense if we include the games by default, no? | 10:44 |
| ochosi | or do you wanna upstream it or at least get it into the ubuntu package as a patch | 10:45 |
| knome | yes and no; it will still be an improvement for those who install it | 10:45 |
| knome | (hello) | 10:45 |
| ochosi | yes and no? | 10:46 |
| bluesabre | improve it for anybody, consider for xubuntu since they're good and tiny | 10:46 |
| knome | makes sense only if we include, if you only want to think about xubuntu | 10:47 |
| ochosi | right, but improving for anybody means upstreaming, no? | 10:47 |
| knome | i believe the change needs to be in the package | 10:47 |
| knome | eg. i don't think we want to go the route of overriding .desktop files | 10:47 |
| ochosi | yeah, that'd definitely make the most sense | 10:48 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: I think we should make Xubuntu Team the drafter (maybe) on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-w-development if we want others to be able to add to it | 10:50 |
| knome | though i don't know if it's realistic to get it upstream-upstream (like in the source) | 10:50 |
| knome | debian, likely | 10:50 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: sure, feel free to change that | 10:50 |
| bluesabre | done | 10:51 |
| knome | bbl | 10:59 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: btw, xfpm from git master should work fine now | 11:05 |
| ochosi | i'm considering to fix one or two more bugs and then i'll do a 1.5.1 | 11:05 |
| ochosi | maybe i'll also add the feature for displaying the remaining time/percentage in the panel | 11:05 |
| ochosi | (so the symbolic icons are used now) | 11:06 |
| bluesabre | very cool | 11:07 |
| bluesabre | debian seems ready to upload it to, we suggested to wait until 1.5.1 | 11:07 |
| bluesabre | *too | 11:08 |
| bluesabre | :( | 11:08 |
| ochosi | yeah | 11:09 |
| ochosi | better | 11:09 |
| ochosi | otherwise we might get a lot of duplicate bugreports | 11:09 |
| ochosi | unless they wanna add the fixes in git master as distro patches | 11:10 |
| ochosi | :} | 11:10 |
| elfy | ochosi: yay - I assume that it turning to polka dots is right \o/ | 12:34 |
| Xubun | Hey guys.. I am an avid Xubuntu user and am a developer by day .. I would like to give some time to helping out whenever possible. I am new here though... | 16:43 |
| krytarik | Xubun: You could start by having a look at this: http://xubuntu.org/contribute/ | 16:51 |
| elfy | anyone else running wibbly with nvidia card? if so I randomly get this screen whiteout - have to reboot at wall - nouveau doesn'tgive the same trouble | 16:57 |
| Xubun | krytarik: Thanks. I would like to contribute towards Thunar or terminal | 17:08 |
| krytarik | Xubun: That'd be upstream Xfce then. | 17:09 |
| krytarik | Xubun: #xfce-dev | 17:09 |
| Xubun | krytarik: Perfect :) .. Thanks | 17:10 |
| krytarik | Sure. | 17:10 |
| astraljava | elfy: No, not really. Did you use the one from -updates? | 17:30 |
| elfy | astraljava: yep | 17:43 |
| pleia2 | the latest xubuntu at draft post if anyone wants to have a browse http://xubuntu.org/?p=3189&preview=true | 17:44 |
| elfy | pleia2: lovely :) | 17:46 |
| astraljava | elfy: I have that driver on two machines, one is a desktop with GeForce 9600 GT card, the other is a laptop with GeForce 9400M G card. Neither of 'em give me trouble, except that I'm not sure whether the occasional problem for lightdm-greeter to appear is related. | 17:54 |
| elfy | mmk | 17:55 |
| elfy | I suspect this is one of those annoying local issues | 17:55 |
| astraljava | Seems so. | 17:56 |
| elfy | now that I don'tplagued by the 10seconds till you see your real desktop thing I don't feel the need to use nvidia anyway tbh | 17:56 |
| astraljava | I just received this another laptop with Radeon graphics. And surprisingly, no issue with the proprietary driver on that one, either. | 17:56 |
| astraljava | Again, excepting the occasional greeter non-appearance after resume. | 17:58 |
| elfy | right - rarely if ever suspend/resume here | 17:59 |
| astraljava | Usually Xorg apologizes after that for having crashed. I'm not really sure who to blame for it, actually. | 17:59 |
| elfy | blame bert astraljava | 17:59 |
| elfy | always and for everything | 17:59 |
| astraljava | Works for me. :D | 17:59 |
| elfy | and me - he's a bit depressed though,random people blame him for everything | 18:00 |
| astraljava | Well, I can't blame them, when you're urging everyone to do so! :p | 18:02 |
| * astraljava doesn't even know who this mysterious bert character is... | 18:02 | |
| * dkessel scratches head | 18:20 | |
| dkessel | has mousepad been ported to gtk3 during vivid? i am confused. http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-qa-v-autopilot says it was using gkt2 at the beginning of the vivid cycle | 18:20 |
| dkessel | good evening, btw :) | 18:21 |
| dkessel | Unit193, i am wondering if there is anything one can help you with to get the xubuntu-core images hosted on cdimage.u.c | 18:35 |
| Unit193 | dkessel: Something like that, though I like the GTK2 one better. I have no idea, because it's not hosting it there so much as building. | 18:46 |
| dkessel | Unit193: "it"? | 18:47 |
| Unit193 | First is mousepad, second comment is xubuntu-core. | 18:47 |
| dkessel | regarding core: ok, so i guess there are no preparations for that yet | 18:48 |
| dkessel | mousepad in gtk3 is nice, as gtk2 previously blocked the autopilot tests | 18:49 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, but gtk2 is soo much nicer. :P | 18:49 |
| Unit193 | And yeah, not gotten anywhere with core yet. | 18:49 |
| Unit193 | I *may* be a little late for the meeting, but y'all can start without me right? :P | 18:50 |
| astraljava | Oh yeah, the meeting. It's in an hour, right? | 18:50 |
| Unit193 | Righty-o. | 18:51 |
| astraljava | got it | 18:51 |
| pleia2 | that means it's burrito time | 19:00 |
| dkessel | enjoy your meal pleia2 :) | 19:02 |
| * drc hands pleia2 some Imodium...just in case :) | 19:03 | |
| Unit193 | \o/ | 19:10 |
| astraljava | Wait, doesn't that do just the opposite of what she might need? Or am I mixing drugs again? | 19:32 |
| drc | It's a thinly veiled reference to a Big Bang line... "...I suggest you get on with it as the court had a dicey burrito for breakfast and just took an Imodium...". | 19:36 |
| drc | As " Imodium A-D has been used for years to treat diarrhea", I assume that one must hurry because it hasn't taken effect yet. | 19:37 |
| astraljava | Oh ok, got it. :) | 19:39 |
| dkessel | hah, what a good moment for an upgrade to wily... | 19:51 |
| drc | check for any packages from Acme first.... | 19:52 |
| * dkessel gets packages, did not see any from Acme | 19:54 | |
| Unit193 | #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting | 20:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu May 28 20:00:22 2015 UTC. The chair is Unit193. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 20:00 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 20:00 |
| Unit193 | #chair ochosi knome | 20:00 |
| Unit193 | Howdy and welcome to the Xubuntu community meeting. Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings | 20:00 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: Unit193 knome ochosi | 20:00 |
| Unit193 | Anyone here for the tacos? | 20:00 |
| slickymaster | I haven't dinner yet Unit193 | 20:01 |
| elfy | no thanks | 20:01 |
| slickymaster | hey guys | 20:01 |
| elfy | really must sort out a CTCP sod off message | 20:01 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Just means /me got messed up. :D | 20:02 |
| Unit193 | #topic Open action items | 20:02 |
| Unit193 | elfy to mail -dev list re Milestone participation during Wily cycle | 20:02 |
| Unit193 | That was done, I saw it. | 20:02 |
| slickymaster | yeaps | 20:02 |
| slickymaster | aw that too | 20:02 |
| slickymaster | +s | 20:02 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Anything to note here? | 20:02 |
| elfy | nope - apparently I can do whatever I want there | 20:03 |
| Unit193 | Pretty much. | 20:03 |
| slickymaster | card blanc for elfy | 20:03 |
| Unit193 | pleia2 to email list re: QA and incentives | 20:03 |
| pleia2 | o/ | 20:03 |
| Unit193 | I saw that, there was a lot of them after I got back. | 20:03 |
| elfy | that makes it easy - we'll follow ~Ubuntu's plan ... | 20:03 |
| Unit193 | pleia2: Welcome! | 20:03 |
| elfy | hi pleia2 | 20:04 |
| Unit193 | pleia2: Care to say anything here or just move on? | 20:04 |
| slickymaster | evening pleia2 | 20:04 |
| pleia2 | I don't know that we have any end result from that thread | 20:04 |
| Unit193 | Sure,that's fine as well. | 20:04 |
| pleia2 | though I will say that the actual process of sending out stickers was no burden | 20:04 |
| slickymaster | and thanks for sorting out that dead link in docs.xubuntu.org | 20:04 |
| pleia2 | just didn't seem like a valuable enterprise | 20:04 |
| Unit193 | Alright. | 20:05 |
| Unit193 | #topic Team updates | 20:05 |
| dkessel | oh yeah, good job on updating the docs site! | 20:05 |
| Unit193 | Everyone have at it? | 20:05 |
| elfy | #info xubuntu-qa - nothing done, still trying to plan wily cycle | 20:05 |
| pleia2 | #info pleia2 updated docs.xubuntu.org for 15.04 | 20:06 |
| pleia2 | #info pleia2 has draft for latest Xubuntu At... post ready for review | 20:06 |
| slickymaster | #info slickymaster Updated the documentation to showcase the replacement of Abiword and Gnumeric by LibreOffice Writer and Calc, respectively, and the the drop of Gimp | 20:07 |
| Unit193 | If there's nothing else? | 20:09 |
| slickymaster | nothing frm me | 20:09 |
| slickymaster | * from | 20:09 |
| pleia2 | that's all | 20:09 |
| elfy | not as #info | 20:09 |
| Unit193 | #topic Discussion items | 20:09 |
| Unit193 | #subtopic Rebooting the FAQ articles (mailing list discussion) | 20:09 |
| slickymaster | only bluesabre replied to that | 20:10 |
| Unit193 | So there has been some interest in helping, and I believe others did mention that they'd like to see it happen. | 20:10 |
| Unit193 | Right. | 20:10 |
| elfy | not sure what's going to happen if people don't step up to help | 20:10 |
| pleia2 | I can help with review of the articles, and pitch in if there's anything I've seen from social media that should be included | 20:11 |
| slickymaster | this would be a perfect case where the community might get involved | 20:11 |
| slickymaster | s/case/project | 20:12 |
| * Unit193 looks at krytarik, sitting over there in the 'community' section. | 20:12 | |
| elfy | ha ha | 20:12 |
| pleia2 | ah yes, we could also ask people via social media what they think should be included in a FAQ | 20:12 |
| slickymaster | yes, my thoughts are exactly the same as Unit193?s | 20:13 |
| Unit193 | But so far that leaves bluesabre writing all of them. | 20:13 |
| pleia2 | he likes writing, right? :D | 20:13 |
| Unit193 | Yes! | 20:13 |
| elfy | pleia2: maybe try and get people involved that way | 20:13 |
| * astraljava can pitch in | 20:13 | |
| pleia2 | if he starts a blog post, we can multiplayer it and add some suggestions | 20:13 |
| slickymaster | and his thourough doing it, pleia2 | 20:13 |
| slickymaster | krytarik, come up, come up, wherever you are | 20:14 |
| Unit193 | So, astraljava and bluesabre, better odds! | 20:15 |
| Unit193 | I think we'll carry that for when he's here at the next meeting, no? | 20:16 |
| slickymaster | yes, good plan | 20:17 |
| Unit193 | #idea could also ask people via social media what they think should be included in a FAQ | 20:17 |
| Unit193 | (I have no idea if that shows better in minutes.) | 20:17 |
| Unit193 | #subtopic Package testing | 20:17 |
| elfy | ha | 20:17 |
| elfy | so - basically we're not going to even sort out tracker this cycle | 20:18 |
| Unit193 | Right, so the mail said, we're not doing them this cycle. | 20:18 |
| elfy | nor update testcases | 20:18 |
| Unit193 | I guess for that, all we even have to do is poke PaulW2U. | 20:18 |
| PaulW2U | o/ | 20:18 |
| elfy | I'll assume that bluesabre and cohorts will liase when necessary for that | 20:19 |
| Unit193 | Heya, PaulW2U. | 20:19 |
| elfy | #action xubuntu-dev to liase with -qa when specific package testing required | 20:19 |
| meetingology | ACTION: xubuntu-dev to liase with -qa when specific package testing required | 20:19 |
| Unit193 | Right, I'll need a release team member for stuff too. | 20:19 |
| elfy | hi PaulW2U | 20:19 |
| PaulW2U | hi all | 20:19 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Anything else, or carry on to the next? | 20:19 |
| elfy | hang on | 20:19 |
| slickymaster | hi PaulW2U | 20:20 |
| elfy | discussion started with PaulW2U and saqman on m/l about testing (which is more or less the same thing) we can do that now or at the end | 20:20 |
| elfy | in which case we can move on | 20:21 |
| Unit193 | Now'll do. | 20:21 |
| elfy | okey doke | 20:21 |
| elfy | so - we're looking at the best way to disseminate info to testers here - currently trello board for them is my preference | 20:22 |
| elfy | PaulW2U: you got any comments for the meeting? | 20:22 |
| PaulW2U | no really but it testers need focus | 20:22 |
| Unit193 | FWIW, I'm keeping on top of those, thanks to SwissBot announcing every time something happens there. | 20:23 |
| elfy | (I've also offered to run a qa meet if there'senough people -maybe social media that offer pleia2 ? ) | 20:23 |
| PaulW2U | and items to test need to be easily found and the lists kept updated | 20:23 |
| pleia2 | elfy: yes sir | 20:23 |
| elfy | pleia2: :) | 20:23 |
| elfy | PaulW2U: ack | 20:24 |
| PaulW2U | trello board looks good | 20:24 |
| * dkessel also likes trello | 20:24 | |
| elfy | for those who've not looked - there's a Tester Notes board https://trello.com/b/IV66JCHl/xubuntu-qa | 20:25 |
| elfy | not sure there's much else to mention on that at this moment | 20:25 |
| elfy | Unit193: the meeting length is kind of based on the chair not looking out of the window :p | 20:29 |
| Unit193 | :3 | 20:29 |
| Unit193 | #subtopic Milestones to take part in | 20:29 |
| Unit193 | All the ones Ubuntu does is what I just read | 20:29 |
| elfy | heh | 20:29 |
| elfy | I'm still happy with | 20:29 |
| pleia2 | wfm | 20:30 |
| Unit193 | Another idea was when/if we had something big landing. | 20:30 |
| elfy | really> | 20:30 |
| elfy | didn't see that on my pointless mail to the list | 20:30 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Side note, idea, etc. But I don't think of anything big. | 20:30 |
| Unit193 | 4.12 hit last cycle, so that's it pretty much. | 20:31 |
| elfy | frankly I think the best plan is start at Beta1 unless something turns up and we want to start earlier | 20:31 |
| pleia2 | it doesn't need to be a milestone, right? just a stronger call for testing on the specific bit | 20:31 |
| elfy | pleia2: yea for sure | 20:31 |
| Unit193 | I maaay have misremembered, pleia2. | 20:31 |
| Unit193 | That sounds closer. | 20:31 |
| pleia2 | elfy does a great job calling those to our attention, so it's easy enough for me to social media them (sometimes with or without prodding :)) | 20:31 |
| elfy | pleia2: the only issue being we can't stop dailies churning simply | 20:31 |
| elfy | pleia2: works best when I LP mail for that still ? | 20:32 |
| pleia2 | elfy: yeah | 20:32 |
| elfy | ok | 20:32 |
| pleia2 | that gets my attention, then I link to the -dev mail | 20:32 |
| elfy | right | 20:32 |
| Unit193 | #agreed Participate with the ones Ubuntu does, starting at B1. | 20:33 |
| elfy | bluesabre and I have quickly discussed both packages and images btw - it's not just me :) | 20:33 |
| micahg | well, LO stuff should probably be tested | 20:33 |
| Unit193 | micahg: Yeah, there's a couple things to be fixed yet in x.d.s | 20:34 |
| elfy | micahg: yea - probably | 20:34 |
| elfy | I need to see what Ubuntu do with LO - there is a test for it - but I don'tthink much occurs | 20:34 |
| knome | hai | 20:34 |
| elfy | hi knome | 20:34 |
| slickymaster | knome o/ | 20:34 |
| Unit193 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/zZTHqewdJcagM769YkZJ for a quick look, micahg. | 20:35 |
| pleia2 | if LO is the only package test to point people at, maybe we can succeed in getting some to do it ;) | 20:35 |
| elfy | pleia2: if only it was that simple - when I looked it was really old and would need checking over | 20:36 |
| pleia2 | figures | 20:36 |
| Unit193 | Ubuntu doesn't take better care of that one? | 20:36 |
| elfy | Unit193: they don't package test anymore | 20:36 |
| pleia2 | ah | 20:36 |
| pleia2 | nevermind then | 20:36 |
| pleia2 | would be easy if someone else was maintaining it, but if not.. | 20:37 |
| knome | manually, non-exploratorily, that is... | 20:37 |
| elfy | micahg: the other side of that coin is that we had tests for gnumeric/abiword that people didn't test and we still got bugs reported | 20:37 |
| micahg | ok | 20:37 |
| elfy | but basically - if people need something tested - ask and it shall be promoted | 20:38 |
| Unit193 | Alrighty then, if there's nothing else? | 20:38 |
| elfy | I'm good | 20:39 |
| Unit193 | #subtopic QA Incentive | 20:39 |
| slickymaster | nothing on this end | 20:39 |
| Unit193 | Again, from the mail it seems like a nice idea, but not really as much help. | 20:40 |
| elfy | I think I saw a few new names show up - but no way to know from where - they could well just be normal new | 20:41 |
| elfy | and it all took me hours because tracker | 20:41 |
| pleia2 | if we do see a new contributor who starts doing a long, we can just randomly offer to send them stickers | 20:41 |
| pleia2 | but a formal program doesn't work and was a bit silly | 20:41 |
| pleia2 | s/a long/a lot | 20:41 |
| elfy | I'd not say it was silly - just something we tried | 20:41 |
| Unit193 | So, #info discontinued ? | 20:42 |
| elfy | Unit193: yep | 20:42 |
| pleia2 | elfy: yeah, an interesting experiment :) | 20:42 |
| Unit193 | #info an interesting experiment, but discontinued | 20:43 |
| Unit193 | Any other discussions? | 20:43 |
| elfy | blueprints? or wait till ochosi is about? | 20:44 |
| Unit193 | Likely wait for him. | 20:44 |
| Unit193 | #topic Announcements | 20:44 |
| pleia2 | I updated a blueprint today \o/ | 20:44 |
| Unit193 | I looked at them! | 20:44 |
| elfy | \o/ | 20:44 |
| knome | i did nothing today! | 20:45 |
| elfy | still working on qa one | 20:45 |
| elfy | knome: \o/ | 20:45 |
| Unit193 | I see nothing coming up. | 20:45 |
| Unit193 | #endmeeting | 20:45 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu May 28 20:45:55 2015 UTC. | 20:45 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-05-28-20.00.moin.txt | 20:45 |
| slickymaster | I fought a java exploit and ransomware trojan | 20:46 |
| elfy | I'll sort the next meeting out | 20:46 |
| elfy | thinking the 29th May | 20:46 |
| pleia2 | thanks Unit193 | 20:46 |
| pleia2 | elfy: ... | 20:46 |
| Unit193 | http://java-0day.com/ \o/ | 20:47 |
| elfy | :p | 20:47 |
| Unit193 | pleia2: Sure, thanks for bearing with me there. :3 | 20:47 |
| slickymaster | thanks Unit193 | 20:47 |
| * pleia2 back2work | 20:47 | |
| dkessel | oh well. i was really interested to read about the blueprints. too bad. | 20:47 |
| * slickymaster starts to grill his bass for dinner | 20:47 | |
| * elfy sits back to watch Unit193 do the meeting page updates | 20:48 | |
| Unit193 | elfy: How did you know I was wondering "what next?"? :D | 20:48 |
| elfy | I remember last time :p | 20:48 |
| Unit193 | Haha, :D | 20:48 |
| slickymaster | lol | 20:49 |
| * slickymaster heads up to the kitchen | 20:49 | |
| Unit193 | The lock of slickymaster timed out 39 minute(s) ago, and you were granted the lock for this page | 20:49 |
| slickymaster | ups, sorry about that Unit193 :P | 20:49 |
| slickymaster | my bad | 20:49 |
| slickymaster | better now? | 20:50 |
| micahg | ochosi: so, if we get down to 1 gstreamer copy, we should be right sized | 20:50 |
| Unit193 | xfburn will get us there, no? | 20:50 |
| micahg | I think so | 20:50 |
| knome | with LO? | 20:50 |
| Unit193 | Nice, thanks micahg. | 20:50 |
| micahg | Unit193: wait, no, pidgin/farstream is the other big thing | 20:51 |
| Unit193 | Ah right, that. I'm really hoping that'll be fixed, either with patches or .12 release. | 20:51 |
| Unit193 | micahg: I've still been running pidgin with gst1.0, no issues. | 20:52 |
| micahg | I know 3.0 is a WIP | 20:52 |
| Unit193 | 2.10.12 should actually have them. | 20:53 |
| Unit193 | micahg: My plan was to bug robert_ancell about the LP bug. | 20:54 |
| micahg | great | 20:54 |
| Unit193 | #agreed does nothing. | 20:55 |
| elfy | Unit193: so core iso - I was going to make a start on testcases for those - no issue with the https://unit193.net/xubuntu/core/ link on there? | 20:56 |
| Unit193 | Wouldn't testcases be mini.iso? Then later we get the Ubuntu buildds? I have no other problems. | 20:57 |
| elfy | mmm | 20:57 |
| elfy | this is what I was talking about the other day ... | 20:57 |
| elfy | are we going to get this as an ubuntu build then? if so I'll hold fire | 20:58 |
| knome | elfy, pleia2: maybe we can do some other one-off sticker "competitions"/raffles | 20:58 |
| Unit193 | That was the hope, I believe. I'll have to talk to bluesabre, our release eng. | 20:58 |
| elfy | Unit193: ok - well if you do that overnight could you ping me and I'll find the backlog | 20:59 |
| Unit193 | IMO, discussions should have nicks next to them, so we can figure out who needs to lead them. | 20:59 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Yes sir! | 20:59 |
| elfy | knome: possibly - but frankly - it's a whole lot of work if we need information from tracker | 20:59 |
| knome | Unit193, at least it would be nice if the person who added the item to the agenda left a visible mark there | 20:59 |
| elfy | unless it's something subjective like "that user's been about a lot lately" | 21:00 |
| knome | elfy, not necessarily tracker-related | 21:00 |
| knome | elfy, or just "test this and take a screenshot while you do it, we draw one random sticker winner" | 21:00 |
| elfy | yea possibly | 21:01 |
| knome | something more organix | 21:02 |
| knome | s/x/c/ | 21:02 |
| knome | and as i said, one-off, not a huge undertaking | 21:02 |
| elfy | then it definitely HAS to be not related to tracker unless it's done now ;) | 21:04 |
| knome | lol | 21:05 |
| ochosi | hey folks | 21:28 |
| ochosi | sorry for being too late :( | 21:28 |
| Unit193 | No you're not! | 21:28 |
| ochosi | i'll catch up with the backlog and join in then | 21:29 |
| * knome slaps ochosi | 21:29 | |
| knome | NAUGHTY BOY | 21:29 |
| drc | I think the proper phrase is "Bad dog, no biscuit!". | 21:32 |
| ochosi | ok, now i'm actually back | 21:48 |
| ochosi | so | 21:48 |
| Unit193 | Hah, and I'm gone. :D | 21:48 |
| ochosi | micahg: yeah, meh, pidgin :/ i don't see that getting fixed too soon, although Unit193 claims it will, we'll see.. | 21:49 |
| Unit193 | Erm, no. | 21:49 |
| ochosi | no? | 21:49 |
| ochosi | i thought you said some point release will do gst1? | 21:49 |
| Unit193 | I gave data, I just hope for this cycle. Yeah, from what I've read .12 will. | 21:49 |
| ochosi | well that sounds a lot closer than 3.0 | 21:50 |
| ochosi | actually, re: blueprints and LO, i'll add another workitem to w--artwork | 21:50 |
| ochosi | so the meeting is still running officially? | 21:51 |
| knome | #endmeeting | 21:51 |
| knome | no | 21:51 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: https://hg.pidgin.im/pidgin/main/rev/2415067473ba | 21:51 |
| knome | ochosi, what's that you're adding? | 21:51 |
| knome | ochosi, i suddendly started thinking about some document templates and color schemes.. | 21:52 |
| ochosi | Unit193: first of all: wow, they use mercurial. secondly: wow, nice! | 21:52 |
| knome | templates is likely a bit in vain, i would imagine nobody wants to use a xubuntu template | 21:52 |
| ochosi | yea, prolly not | 21:52 |
| ochosi | but the icon theme could integrate better | 21:53 |
| knome | that too | 21:53 |
| ochosi | that's the one thing that doesn't really go along | 21:53 |
| ochosi | bluesabre once worked out a script for replacing many icons with elementary-xfce ones | 21:53 |
| knome | aha | 21:53 |
| ochosi | but that was when i was extremely busy, so i had no chance to follow up | 21:53 |
| ochosi | knome: btw, feel free to claim the wallpaper workitem | 21:54 |
| knome | oh sigh, just dump my name in there :P | 21:54 |
| ochosi | :] | 21:54 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Yep! Try it out today™ :P | 21:54 |
| Unit193 | For me personally, all that's left is wine and I can get rid of gst0.10 on every system. | 21:55 |
| ochosi | hmright, i dont use pidgin ;) | 21:55 |
| knome | ochosi, wait, wallpaper item is not INPROGRESS? :P | 21:56 |
| ochosi | hehe | 21:56 |
| knome | ochosi, don't you remember | 21:56 |
| knome | :P | 21:56 |
| knome | silly one | 21:57 |
| ochosi | that's your workitem now, you deal with it ;) | 21:57 |
| knome | well you knew it was before you assigned it to me.. | 21:57 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: torchat! | 21:57 |
| knome | Unit193, aren't you gone? :P | 21:58 |
| ochosi | pleia2: btw, that last email i just sent to the ml could be social-worthy, if you have time! | 22:03 |
| * knome is already tweeting | 22:04 | |
| ochosi | i'm wondering whether we should link to status.ubuntu somewhere in the contribute part of -web | 22:05 |
| knome | yep | 22:05 |
| ochosi | since that is actually quite a useful overview of our goings on | 22:05 |
| knome | i'll do something about that soonish | 22:05 |
| ochosi | even the umbrella blueprint might be link-worthy | 22:06 |
| knome | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-May/010790.html | 22:07 |
| knome | now at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-May/010790.html with a shameless self-plug for @simonsteinbeiss | 22:12 |
| ochosi | well ofc :) | 22:13 |
| Noskcaj | Is it ok if i update lp:~xubuntu-dev/+junk/xfpm-pkging to the packaging of xfpm in xubuntu-staging? | 22:15 |
| ochosi | there is a junk PPA? | 22:16 |
| Noskcaj | ochosi, A daily build ppa | 22:16 |
| ochosi | oh right | 22:16 |
| Noskcaj | https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 22:16 |
| Noskcaj | great, launchpad is giving me 404 errors. I guess i'll try tonight | 22:17 |
| ochosi | yeah, go launchpad! | 22:17 |
| ochosi | anyway, better to wait for bluesabre's opinion on that one, i'm not really confident about my own packaging opinions ;) | 22:17 |
| Noskcaj | fair enough | 22:19 |
| Noskcaj | bluesabre, When do you think we'll be able to upload new panel? | 22:21 |
| knome | ochosi, http://xubuntu.org/contribute/ | 22:28 |
| knome | ochosi, is that better? (remember to f5, canonical does heavy caching..) | 22:28 |
| ochosi | not bad! i would actually add some graphics or icons to that page | 22:29 |
| knome | ochosi, well, http://xubuntu.org/?page_id=3081&preview=true | 22:29 |
| knome | ochosi, mostly, the subteams are much saner in that | 22:29 |
| knome | and yeah, agree with artwork | 22:29 |
| knome | but me has none ready :P | 22:29 |
| knome | if you have a good idea for some artwork (in the same style as in the front page) that would fit well with the team list, tell me | 22:30 |
| ochosi | :) | 22:30 |
| ochosi | k | 22:30 |
| ochosi | i'm actually wondering whether we should make "Progress" a separate header / section | 22:31 |
| knome | maybe | 22:31 |
| ochosi | and link to status.ubuntu as well as to the blueprints there | 22:31 |
| ochosi | to make it more prominent | 22:31 |
| knome | but fwiw, i would like to keep most pages static | 22:31 |
| knome | eg. not something we need to update every cycle | 22:31 |
| knome | so maybe for the so-called "develeoper area" we could have that | 22:32 |
| bluesabre | hi all | 22:32 |
| knome | a page per cycle | 22:32 |
| knome | lists progress, links important things and stuff | 22:32 |
| bluesabre | wife is sick, so I may be around for very little time | 22:32 |
| knome | then we could point to *that* from the page or so | 22:32 |
| knome | bluesabre, strength | 22:32 |
| knome | for you and/or for her, depending how much she makes you do stuff :P | 22:32 |
| * bluesabre used strength... it's not very effective | 22:33 | |
| knome | oopsie | 22:33 |
| knome | that didn't come out right | 22:33 |
| knome | "my wife is sick - i used strength" | 22:33 |
| bluesabre | lol | 22:33 |
| bluesabre | Noskcaj: possibly tonight, more likely tomorrow morning | 22:34 |
| bluesabre | so, I think that might be tomorrow night for you | 22:34 |
| bluesabre | or tonight | 22:34 |
| * bluesabre stops talking | 22:35 | |
| ochosi | speedy recovery to her then! | 22:35 |
| ochosi | knome: could do something like 4 graphics for the various teams, e.g. something (but more pretty) like this for docs: http://i.imgur.com/6ur2vtQ.png | 22:37 |
| knome | uh oh | 22:37 |
| bluesabre | Noskcaj: when updating daily builds, make sure they still build for trusty->vivid, or create a new branch of packaging, otherwise, go for it (with testing) | 22:39 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: I can help, but I have no idea what it takes to actually add new builds to cdimage | 22:40 |
| bluesabre | I can press a button to rebuild | 22:40 |
| bluesabre | :D | 22:40 |
| knome | ochosi, would prefer one image, it's hard to make stuff thats drawn in the same way fit that area | 22:40 |
| knome | especially four things | 22:40 |
| bluesabre | why not five? | 22:40 |
| knome | and drawing stuff that is like icons is meh... | 22:40 |
| knome | bluesabre, because if you ask any designer, they'll tell five things do not go nicely in columns :P | 22:41 |
| bluesabre | :o | 22:41 |
| knome | well 4 is 2 items in 2 columns | 22:41 |
| ochosi | hmyeah, i sort of agree (re: drawn icons), however, going less abstract isn't easy here | 22:42 |
| ochosi | just felt we could do some of the common metaphors where they exist for different areas of "contributing" | 22:43 |
| knome | sure, but good things aren't easy | 22:43 |
| knome | (necessarily) | 22:43 |
| ochosi | maybe not easy, but simple! | 22:43 |
| ochosi | not our style, but how others do it: https://elementary.io/developer | 22:44 |
| ochosi | although that is a slightly different thing | 22:45 |
| knome | yeah.. | 22:45 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i know you're busy and all, just wanted to mention that in-development wallpaper again | 22:47 |
| ochosi | since that only makes sense if we set it early in the cycle | 22:47 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: I'll have it in tonight, will be in tomorrow's image | 22:50 |
| bluesabre | and thanks for pinging again | 22:50 |
| bluesabre | :) | 22:50 |
| ochosi | :) | 22:51 |
| ochosi | thanks for uploading! didn't expect things to go so quickly | 22:51 |
| ochosi | only thought i'd remind you since i just thought of it again | 22:51 |
| ochosi | we can also make it a workitem, so it's less stressful for you | 22:51 |
| ochosi | no need to do it *now* | 22:52 |
| bluesabre | *tonight* ;) | 22:52 |
| knome | ochosi, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/web_art/xwa-community.png | 22:59 |
| ochosi | maybe add an eye to make it look a bit more like a person | 23:01 |
| knome | well that just looked stupid | 23:01 |
| ochosi | or maybe it's ok, i just need to get some sleep now | 23:01 |
| knome | that's why the hair is huge | 23:01 |
| ochosi | :) | 23:01 |
| ochosi | anyway, ttyl, have a good night! | 23:01 |
| knome | nighty :) | 23:01 |
| Unit193 | knome: Yes I was. | 23:06 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: But you may know who to ping, or I can pretend you do. | 23:07 |
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