[00:03] <ahoneybun> Etriaph: updated 
[00:12] <Etriaph> missing: http://tinyurl.com/qb3wjy2
[00:12] <Etriaph> Missing image.
[00:12] <Etriaph> FYI
[00:14] <ahoneybun> I fixed that
[00:15] <ahoneybun> https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/blob/master/source/docs/advanced.rst
[00:15] <ahoneybun> works in my copy
[00:26] <sgclark> okies sorry folks, I know everyone is waiting on packages, but it is taking 1+ hours just to upload to launchpad, and then additional unknown time to build, I started one 2 hours ago that still has not started.
[00:28] <ahoneybun> its all good sgclark we know you are working very hard :)
[00:28] <ahoneybun> {{hugs}}
[00:28] <sgclark> thx
[00:29] <wgrant> sgclark: Launchpad had a serious cloud outage, but it's all fixed as of about 20 minutes ago.
[00:29] <wgrant> Will take an hour or so for the queue to catch up, though.
[00:29] <sgclark> wgrant: ahh okies :) probably playing catch up. Thanks for the info!
[00:29] <sgclark> right :)
[01:33] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: http://www.99blogger.com/how-to-install-wordpress-on-a-vps-with-nginx-on-ubuntu/
[01:35] <ScottK> If you're going to run your own WordPress you need to pay super close attention to security fixes. 
[01:41] <Etriaph> Yup, I'm really wary of WordPress as a platform, I've been involved in about 130 WP sites over the years and security-wise it's a lot of open holes.
[01:45] <ScottK> I don't know what's better though.  The all seem to be made of PHP and that, IMO, is pretty much a recipe for disaster.
[01:49] <Etriaph> ScottK: My thinking, when I was considering assisting with the website, is that the Kubuntu site really isn't big enough to require a whole CMS for it.  A small Rails or Django app would have suited just fine.
[01:49] <Etriaph> Rails and Django having a far better history of security stability than WP ever has.
[01:49] <ScottK> Reasonable.
[01:50] <Etriaph> But there was already quite a bit of work put into the site before I arrived to assist, so WP it is.
[01:52] <Etriaph> Kubuntu will probably get better support, long term, from the community as PHP developers are *everywhere*
[01:52] <Etriaph> Regardless of how craptastic the language has become.
[01:54] <Etriaph> If it came down to setting up a server, I can do that.
[01:54] <Etriaph> If need be, for WP
[01:55] <Etriaph> bbiab, gotta take out the trash
[03:05] <valorie> talk of setting up our own server is sort of leaving out maintainence - good sysadmin is crucial
[03:06] <valorie> canonical IS might be slow as snails, but they keep things secure
[03:13] <ScottK> ahoneybun: re the release milestone stuff, ping me when we get to the alpha release week and I'll help you get up to speed.  The particular tasks infinity was asking for help on are really for release team members, but there are definitely things you can do to help out.
[03:14] <Etriaph> valorie: I would agree, I don't want to have to setup a server, but I can :D
[03:14] <valorie> Etriaph: I don't want to move anywhere, tbh
[03:15] <Etriaph> valorie: Where's the current site hosted?
[03:15] <valorie> I'm hoping that the CC will take a deep breath, step back, and we can all live in peace and harmony
[03:15] <valorie> we do have a small server with some stuff on it, but the mainsite is on canonical kit
[03:16] <valorie> and they do provide a machine to KDE as well
[03:16] <Etriaph> Pardon me for saying that makes me nervous.
[03:18] <valorie> what makes you nervous?
[03:19] <valorie> loads of KDE packages in the archives
[03:19] <valorie> just because there is a social issue, does not mean that there is a technical one
[03:21] <wgrant> I'm not sure where the whole "Canonical wants to exterminate Kubuntu" thing is coming from.
[03:21] <Etriaph> I wasn't assuming that was the case.
[03:21] <ScottK> wgrant: The usual place random negativity comes from: The Internet.
[03:22] <valorie> Mark has explicitly said that that is not the case
[03:22] <valorie> Etriaph: the ubuntu community is sending me to Akademy this year, and Scarlett, and Aaron
[03:23] <valorie> Riddell I think as well
[03:23] <valorie> we are supported
[03:23] <valorie> it's important to stick to facts
[03:25] <Etriaph> I don't have blinders on.  I understand what Canonical's concerns are, I understand what the concerns of the KC are.  The nature of why I'm nervous is not related to events of recent days.
[03:25] <wgrant> Hm, so, to be clear, it's the elected Ubuntu Community Council that has concerns.
[03:25] <wgrant> Two elected members and the sole permanent member of that body are Canonical employees.
[03:26] <Etriaph> I understand.
[03:26] <Etriaph> A conversation left someone feeling sour, it festered, this happens all the time.
[03:27] <valorie> in any case, this conversation would be more on-topic in #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:27] <Etriaph> valorie: Yes, I agree.
[03:27] <valorie> I have nerves tingling about the future as well
[05:59] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: how is that tutorial related to our topic?
[07:39] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:22] <sick_rimmit> Any of the web team about ?
[09:22] <sick_rimmit> I could do with a rough idea of how much traffic Kubuntu.org gets ?
[09:23] <sick_rimmit> Can I confirm that the ISO hosting for download is on a different server ?
[09:45] <soee> sick_rimmit: yes isos are on different servers
[09:45] <soee> there are onyl links on our site
[10:17] <sitter> there are links and images :P
[10:17] <sitter> and moar text
[10:17] <sick_rimmit> Links, Images, lots of pages that's all good
[10:18] <sick_rimmit> Any idea of how many hits a day / month it gets. or how much bandwidth it needs ?
[10:20] <sitter> I pulled numbers at some point but can't find them anymore, though I definitely told Riddell and possibly ovidiu-florin to write them down :P
[10:22] <clivejo> hi folks
[10:22] <sitter> sick_rimmit: 56 thousand views on release day
[10:25] <sitter> and I can't find where one sees the distribution through the day anymore
[10:33] <sitter> sick_rimmit: random guesstimation assuming an uneven distribution of views throughout the day considering the top 10 countries accessing the site were all in europe or america so let's spread the 56k views over 6 hours giving us 9k views per hour. so I'd guess that the last release probably had an hourly traffic spike of up to 9k views (with lots of wiggly space as that doesn't take base volume into consideration etc)
[10:34] <clivejo> any update on Plasma 5.3.1 ?
[10:36] <sitter> as for the actual bandwith that would largely depend on the theme and the actual content. for example the present site has the most bandwith consumed by the banner image which is 274kb with the entire mainpage being about 0.5mib so assuming the worst case with all 9k spike views at the same time we'd be looking at about 4.5 gigabyte in raw bandwith usage
[10:36] <sitter> which would of course go down drastically if one were to use a CDN and store the js and artwork assets on the CDN rather than the actual server
[10:37] <sitter> clivejo: I don't think so, last I checked I think sgclark was asking for testing though
[10:37] <clivejo> is it in the next stage 2 ?
[10:40] <sick_rimmit> sitter: Brilliant, that is close enough for me thank you
[10:41] <sick_rimmit> I will have a proposal for the mailing list soon
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:44] <ahoneybun> hey BluesKaj
[11:44] <BluesKaj> hi ahoneybun
[11:45]  * ahoneybun slides some coffe to BluesKaj
[11:46]  * BluesKaj slides some donuts over to ahoneybun
[11:47] <ahoneybun> yay
[11:49] <soee> hiho
[11:49] <BluesKaj> hey soee
[11:50] <ahoneybun> hello soee
[11:51] <soee> any news about this CC accusations ?
[11:52] <BluesKaj> I just logged on 
[11:57] <lordievader> soee: The article on LWN shows pretty much what we already knew, nothing new.
[12:03] <Riddell> Hola I'm away today
[12:03] <soee> Riddell: have a nice day :)
[12:04] <clivejo> enjoying the sun?
[12:04] <clivejo> send some my way, Im sick of the rain
[12:05] <soee> ha we had have rain yesterday  here in Poland :) sunny now
[12:06] <clivejo> weather here is messed up, sun shine one minute, then downpour of rain
[12:08] <ahoneybun> sounds like Florida
[12:08] <clivejo> I wish
[12:08] <clivejo> struggling to reach 10C
[12:09] <sgclark> morning
[12:09] <ahoneybun> hey sgclark
[12:09] <clivejo> hi sgclark, get your house cleaned?
[12:09] <sgclark> yeah
[12:11] <soee> ;D
[12:11] <clivejo> did I hear you need tester for 5.3.1 Plasma?
[12:11] <soee> freidn of mine cleand his house to after alsmost 6 months of not doig this :) took him 2 days
[12:12] <clivejo> my house will take longer than 2 days!
[12:13] <soee> big house than :D
[12:13] <lordievader> Ow, right I need to fix my 5.3 install...
[12:13] <lordievader> clivejo: Thanks for reminding me ;)
[12:13] <clivejo> no, just needs a lot of attention
[12:13] <sgclark> Let me look, launchpad had a hiccup last night when I was trying to fix things.
[12:13] <clivejo> it was running slow last night for sure
[12:13]  * sgclark just woke up
[12:14]  * clivejo looks at the clock
[12:14]  * clivejo shakes head
[12:14] <sgclark> 5am here, too late?
[12:14] <clivejo> LOL messing
[12:14]  * ahoneybun is going to ride his bike to work today
[12:14] <clivejo> its 1:14pm here
[12:15] <sgclark> ahh hehe I would shake head too
[12:15] <ahoneybun> 8:15am here
[12:15] <clivejo> time zones are such fun
[12:15] <soee> i suggest 30 min outside, biking or swimming or running sgclark :)
[12:15] <sgclark> still dark!
[12:16] <lordievader> clivejo: Ah Great Britian, I knew you where close by ;)
[12:17] <ahoneybun> "Mark Shuttleworth: You can't buy off the FOSS community. Stop throwing your weight around to undermine software freedom! #ISupportJonathan"
[12:17] <ahoneybun> twitter post
[12:17] <clivejo> The Emerald Isle, the land flowing with water
[12:18] <soee> ahoneybun: what does it mean exactyl ?
[12:19] <ahoneybun> soee: as in Mark is using his power to shot down Riddell's questions about licenses
[12:19] <ahoneybun> for software
[12:19]  * ahoneybun needs to go to work now
[12:19] <soee> uhmhm
[12:25] <BluesKaj> ahoneybun, have a good one :-)
[12:47] <BluesKaj> ok, 61 upgrades for 15.10 this morning
[13:00] <ScottK> ahoneybun: In fairness, the claim is that it's not the questions, but the way they were asked.  Unfortunately only they know what they are talking about since we don't have precise information about what they objected to.
[13:12] <BluesKaj> ScottK, sounds picky picky, just an excuse .. they have other reasons that aren't kosher 
[13:13] <ScottK> BluesKaj: We don't know that and I'd prefer we don't make things up.
[13:13] <ScottK> What we have is a distinct lack of information.
[13:13] <BluesKaj> it's my suspicion that's all
[13:14] <BluesKaj> I only speak for myself ..not a KC memeber 
[13:15] <BluesKaj> err member
[13:17] <ScottK> You're speaking in a Kubuntu channel that's publicly logged, I would prefer we don't rumor monger here.
[13:17] <BluesKaj> it'
[13:18] <BluesKaj> s difficult not to speculate 
[13:18] <ScottK> Understood.  Just don't do it here please.
[13:18] <BluesKaj> I'll do so elsewhere 
[13:18] <sitter> it's very easy really
[13:18] <ScottK> Thanks.
[13:18] <sitter> don't
[13:19] <sitter> much like drugs, you also shouldn't do those either, not illegal ones anyway. no. on second thought stay away from all of them ;)
[13:19] <ScottK> Including alcohol and donuts?
[13:20] <sgclark> breakfast!
[13:20] <BluesKaj> I wish I could , but my doctor would be unhappy with me, I'm on the meds merry-go-round 
[13:20] <sitter> kubotu: order breakfast, at for sgclark
[13:20]  * kubotu slides 5 floors of backon and some wurst with bread, a glass of schnaps and a new deck down the bar to sgclark.
[13:20] <sitter> heartattack material
[13:20] <sgclark> lol
[13:20] <sgclark> nice
[13:20] <BluesKaj> sgclark, hair 'o the dog in your coffee
[13:20] <sitter> perhaps we should also stay away from food o_O
[13:21] <sgclark> lol
[13:21] <sitter> ScottK: especially alcohol. donuts I am not sure, not technically drugs I think
[13:21] <yossarianuk> sitter: some illegal ones are far safer than legal ones...
[13:21] <sitter> yossarianuk: hence why I reconsidered my stance ;)
[13:22] <yossarianuk> in the UK everything is now illegal...
[13:22] <BluesKaj> illegal drugs are full junk/garbage  
[13:23] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj: because of prohibition
[13:23]  * BluesKaj nods
[13:23] <sitter> wgrant: is it known that some virtual builders are apparently cleaning insanely slow? lgw01-05 for example appears to be cleaning for an hour now
[13:25] <sitter> must be cleaning with a tooth brush
[13:25] <sitter> oh the witty puns
[13:25]  * sitter hides
[13:25] <wgrant> Heh
[13:25] <wgrant> sitter: Yes, we're debugging an issue with that cloud.
[13:25] <wgrant> Some network links not working, it's very odd.
[13:28] <yossarianuk> I wonder what percentage of opensource development is done whilst stoned on weed....
[13:29] <sitter> wgrant: a hole in the tubes. packets flooding the data center 😱?
[13:38] <sgclark> sitter: hmm packagekit-qt5, I can't seem to find this, know if it exists?
[13:39] <sitter> doesn't exist anywhere
[13:40] <sitter> I think Jon looked into it, not sure he got anywhere though
[13:40] <debfx> oh no, the emojis are invading IRC
[13:40] <sitter> from what I understood at least the latest version is depending on an ABI incompatible version of packagekit and since aptdaemon reimplements the packagekit API we likely cannot land packagekit-qt until aptdaemon's compat API is ported to the new version
[13:41] <sgclark> ahhh
[13:41] <sgclark> ok, it is optional depend, so leaving missing
[13:56] <sgclark> Plasma 5.3.1 Vivid https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-staging/+packages is ready for !testers
[13:56] <sgclark> !testers
[13:56] <sgclark> there we go
[13:56] <shadeslayer> heh
[13:57] <soee> sgclark: will test now :)
[13:57] <sgclark> thx
[13:57] <sick_rimmit> yossarianuk: Saying everything in the UK is illegal, is also illegal. you in trouble now
[13:58] <lordievader> sgclark: If I ever fix my vivid install I'll test 5.3.1, but for now it seems hopelessly broken.
[13:58] <sgclark> :(
[13:58] <sick_rimmit> I am having a video problems with video..
[13:59] <sick_rimmit> Hangouts in G+, Cheese, 
[13:59] <sick_rimmit> It runs the CPU usage up over time, until the machine starts struggling
[13:59] <sick_rimmit> I think it could be something to do with that old Plasma issue with the Intel Graphics chipse
[14:00] <sick_rimmit> But I am not sure what to use to investigate the issue
[14:00] <sick_rimmit> Well tail -f /var/logs of course
[14:00] <sick_rimmit> Any ideas ?
[14:00] <sgclark> hmm
[14:01] <sgclark> honestly I have been having perfomance issues with one machine as well.
[14:01] <sgclark> it does have intel chip
[14:01] <sgclark> err video
[14:01] <sgclark> and over time 
[14:01] <sick_rimmit> Yes, well on the Tech Preview I had the screen freezing issue
[14:02] <sick_rimmit> But I can't remember it was like a init buffer things or something
[14:02] <sick_rimmit> Yes
[14:02] <sick_rimmit> When I talk to my collegue on G+ after about 10 minutes, the CPU goes way up, and all gets sticky and broken up
[14:02] <sgclark> video is not my specialty :(
[14:02] <sick_rimmit> Video and Audio
[14:03] <lordievader> Hmm, odd. Removing eth0 from /etc/network/interfaces fixed my boot problem. Time to test 5.3.1 :)
[14:03] <sick_rimmit> I turn of Camera, and it settles down
[14:15] <soee> sgclark: smooth upgrade, no errors, reboot and all seems to be fine
[14:15] <soee> ^ 5.3.1 (Vivid)
[14:15] <sgclark> okies ty
[14:15] <sgclark> could use a few more testers
[14:18] <lordievader> sgclark: Upgrading now.
[14:19] <lordievader> I'll be back in a bit to see how it went.
[14:23] <mparillo> I go to muon update manager, advanced, configure software sources, Other software, Add, and I suppose I need the complete APT line of the PPA?
[14:25] <ScottK> mparillo: add-apt-repository is probably easier to use for a PPA.
[14:25] <ScottK> (see the man page for details)
[14:51] <sgclark> sitter: there is a missing symbol in kpackage that looks like it was added in the CI, is this safe to remove? 
[14:55] <sitter> sgclark: paste symbol please
[14:56] <sgclark> sitter: I will have to email it to you, I am packaging on my laptop
[14:56] <sitter> fine by me
[15:01] <sitter> sgclark: that was introduced by the CI
[15:01] <sitter> eh, I mean, that was introduced after release of 5.10 (note the time stamp)
[15:02] <sitter> so, save to remove
[15:02] <sitter> CI should bring it back when a new build happens
[15:02] <sgclark> thanks!
[15:02] <sgclark> ok
[15:28] <sitter> sgclark, Riddell, shadeslayer: KCI integration is paused for now due to problems in the launchpad cloud making builds take very long. we don't need to contribute to long build queues wiht CI builds, in particular since frameworks are red and need fixing for integration to succeed anyway
[15:29] <shadeslayer> ok
[15:29] <sgclark> yeah, make sense. I am fixing said frameworks in the meantime
[15:29] <sitter> possibly unpausing if it is fixed tomorrow, otherwise deferred to monday and if it isn't fixed on monday it probably will become thursday/friday as I expect to not be available much during the week as I am traveling
[15:30] <shadeslayer> likewise, I'm not around till Thursday probably as well
[15:30] <sgclark> I have family in town next week and will be mostly unavailable as well
[15:30] <sitter> merging is running as intented, so you still get feedback if you screw up branches :P
[15:30] <sgclark> lol
[15:32] <lordievader> sgclark: Plasma 5.3.1 installed and rebooted succesfully.
[15:32] <sgclark> great, ty
[15:45] <sitter> oh and I think I repaired the patch-parser (again)
[15:45] <sitter> cron is being very annoying
[15:46] <sitter> and with that statement I am off o/
[15:57] <BluesKaj> I was on 15.10 when the testers rquest was pinged ..can some one post ppa url again? 
[16:00] <soee> BluesKaj: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-staging
[16:00] <BluesKaj> thanks soee
[16:10] <mparillo> Does the PPA work with wiley main?
[16:11] <BluesKaj> no it's 14.10 and 15.04
[16:11] <BluesKaj> I'm on my 15.04 install atm
[16:12] <mparillo> That explains it. Switching to 15.04. Does this PPA replace the backports PPA, or in addition to it?
[16:13] <mparillo> That is, do I remove backports first?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> I didn't
[16:14] <sgclark> mparillo: I will only be supporting releases up to Vivid. This is not a replacement, only a testing PPA, you add it , in stall, then remove. DO NOT keep it lol, it can get dangerous
[16:17] <BluesKaj> sgclark, what about just commenting the deb line and saving it for future use in case there are other packages to be added to the ppa in the future or will you just ceate a new ppa for those?
[16:17] <sgclark> oh yes that is absolutely acceptable :) that is what I do
[16:17] <BluesKaj> cool  ok will do then
[16:25] <clivejo> sgclark: this test only for vivid?
[16:26] <sgclark> I am only supporting up to the Vivid release. correct. If someone else wants to take on wily go for it.
[16:26] <clivejo> wish I knew how :(
[16:27] <micahg> sgclark: no problem on libkgeomap, happy to take care of it
[16:32] <clivejo> could someone point me to the source, so I can at least have a go?
[17:09] <lordievader> I have the staging ppa with a low priority in there.
[17:10] <lordievader> clivejo: Add ppa  https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-staging to your sources.
[17:10] <lordievader> Upgrade and disable the ppa.
[17:10] <clivejo> on on wily
[17:10] <clivejo> Im
[17:10] <lordievader> Ah, then never mind ;)
[17:15] <sgclark> micahg: thanks!
[19:02] <Etriaph> sgclark: Got the latest package for Dolphin, still no change.  Manually editing an entry or dragging an entry and editing after, both have the same behavior in that they cannot be made to appear in Dolphin only.  I can still do this in Kate and kdialogs for anything else.
[19:03] <Etriaph> sgclark: re: places
[19:03] <Etriaph> bbiab, have to run to the bank
[19:07] <sgclark> Etriaph: ok, looks like we are going to need to go upstream with this, is it usable at all or is this a blocker for the backports?
[19:35] <BluesKaj> .0
[19:40] <Etriaph> sgclark: It's quite stable, and at least you can add them now, it's a benefit for the backports.
[19:40] <Etriaph> sgclark: Slowly but surely :D
[19:40] <sgclark> ok great, thanks for testing
[19:42] <sgclark> I am releasing plasma 5.3.1 to vivid backports now. 
[19:43] <Haudegen> sgclark: Thank you!
[19:43] <Etriaph> Yay!
[19:44] <sgclark> once I get ktp* sorted I will need testers for 15.04.1 applications vivid backports
[19:44] <Etriaph> sgclark: If you ever have a running list of things to test for after packaging, you can shave off a slice of that list for me anytime.
[19:44] <sgclark> great
[19:45] <Etriaph> sgclark: Is there a Trello card with anything like that already?
[19:45] <sgclark> Nah
[19:45] <sgclark> I suppose there should be
[19:46] <sgclark> Usually pasted in the IRC status, but it is getting rather long..
[19:46] <Etriaph> Would it be in 15.10 card or 15.04?
[19:46] <sgclark> I am working in 15.04
[19:47] <sgclark> does anyone still use Utopic?
[19:47] <sgclark> guess I need to see if it is missing bugfix releases
[19:47] <Etriaph> I think those that didn't want to make the leap to 15.04 are using that or 14.04
[19:48] <clivejo> sgclark: do you know where plasma 5.3.1 source is?
[19:48] <sgclark> yeah I know I have to do 4.14.3...
[19:48] <Etriaph> I spend time in #kubuntu, that's about the state of most people.
[19:48] <sgclark> all by hand though
[19:48] <sgclark> clivejo: debian git for packaging files and download.kde.org for kde source
[20:17]  * ahoneybun hugs sick_rimmit
[20:17] <ahoneybun> sgclark: do you still need testers?
[20:18] <sgclark> ahoneybun: yes once these ktp* packages finish
[20:18] <ahoneybun> sgclark: ok I have a Laptop loaded with 15.04 on it so I'll update it later tonight and add whatever ppa or such I need
[20:19] <sgclark> ok thanks, will let you know
[20:19] <ahoneybun> np 
[20:22] <clivejo> is there an archive of library on debuild error messages ?!?
[20:24] <sgclark> my library is google search lol sorry
[20:26] <clivejo> any idea what this means?
[20:26] <clivejo> dpkg-source: info: building baloo using existing ./baloo_5.9.1.orig.tar.xz
[20:26] <clivejo> can't find file to patch at input line 5
[20:26]  * sick_rimmit Slides two cool beers over... 1 4 sgclark 1 4 ahoneybun
[20:26] <sick_rimmit> Hey folks
[20:26] <sgclark> it means the patch is gone from debian/patches
[20:26] <sgclark> sick_rimmit: hi :)
[20:26] <clivejo> where's it gone!
[20:26]  * sick_rimmit waves, grins etc...
[20:27] <sgclark> that is a good question
[20:27]  * clivejo bangs head
[20:27]  * BluesKaj gulps water ...now that the lawn is done
[20:34] <clivejo> do the patches live in the tar.xz file somewhere?
[20:35] <yofel> clivejo: they'll be in the debian.tar.xz, and in debian/patches/ when unpacked
[20:35] <clivejo> cd debian
[20:36] <clivejo> how do I know what order to build these in?
[20:38] <clivejo> cant find KF5IdleTime and KF5Crash
[20:40] <clivejo> are they part of plasma-workspace?
[20:42] <sgclark> frameworks
[20:42] <sgclark> kidletime-dev and kcrash-dev
[20:42] <clivejo> is there like a dep flowchart or build list?
[20:44] <sgclark> not that I am aware of. But those deps should already be defined... 
[20:44] <clivejo> what package?
[20:45] <sgclark> in the control file
[20:52] <clivejo> I cant get my head around this!
[20:58] <sgclark> clivejo: an entire suite like plasma might not be the best place to start
[20:58] <clivejo> no, I think not
[20:59] <sgclark> not to mention it also involves merging CI branches
[21:32] <sgclark> Vivid applications 15.04.1 is ready for testing in next-stage2
[21:33] <sgclark> ahoneybun: ^
[21:40] <ylaissus> sgclark: Hi, I just installed them on a VM and it seems to work just fine, even the dolphin bug about places !
[21:40] <sgclark> ylaissus: thanks!
[21:41] <sgclark> if I could get one or two more testers I will release to backports.
[21:41] <sgclark> !testers
[21:41] <sgclark> ^
[21:46] <soee_> sgclark: will test now
[21:46] <sgclark> thx
[21:57] <soee> sgclark: smooth upgrade, gj :)
[22:01] <sick_rimmit> sgclark: So I need a special PPA configure to pull the new packages ?
[22:02] <sgclark> yeah it is still in testing till one more tests :)  sec my net is crazy slow
[22:03] <sgclark> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-stage2/+packages
[22:03] <sick_rimmit> OK, will set that up and pull them :=)
[22:09] <sgclark> soee:  great thanks!
[22:14] <valorie> ooo, we should use this on our new site: http://simplesharingbuttons.com/
[22:14] <valorie> one of the linuxchix made it
[22:20] <sick_rimmit> Well it looks pretty cool
[22:34] <valorie> interesting, I think my router is dying
[22:34] <valorie> so many freaking problems with connectivity lately
[22:36] <valorie> but now need to make a costco run
[22:36] <valorie> no rest for the wicked
[23:46] <ahoneybun> yay LP: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+junk/kubuntu-manual-dev/view/head:/docs/advanced.rst