[00:03] Realtek's website provided a source you can download and compile for the ALC892, but it doesn't compile and even running configure seems to somehow b0rk the system. === james_ is now known as Guest97914 [00:46] hi, need to figure out why I cant seem to run a .jar file as an executable? [00:47] im in 14.10 kubuntu [00:48] actually in 15.04 [00:48] when I change properties on the jar and make it exec.. it does not work .. still wants to open it with ark [00:49] if I list java as the prefered app.. it shows a bouncing bean.. like it trying to run it.. but no [00:55] does kubuntu have a jre installed by default? [01:01] For minecraft for my daughter, I made a shell script to call java. [01:03] Guest97914: open-jdk should be installed by default. [01:03] Guest97914: java -jar [01:07] I would suggest #java for details on how to create an executable jar, it's out of scope here. [01:07] yeah.. dont think open-jdk will work [01:08] Guest97914: Oracle has packages for Ubuntu. [01:08] I am trying to add software source to Muon .. but not working [01:08] found this issue in KDE faq [01:08] tells me how to change muon.. but in older version. [01:09] I have added the souce.. but it does not seem to be getting to the repository [01:09] http://askubuntu.com/questions/521145/how-to-install-oracle-java-on-ubuntu-14-04 [01:09] Did you do apt update? [01:09] yep.. thats the one I am looking at [01:09] I installed JDK 8 using those instructions for RubyMine [01:10] using gui software center [01:10] I haven't used Muon to add sources. [01:11] Click Add and enter: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu vivid main [01:14] im sorry I dont understand your last statement click add where? [01:14] In Muon Discover, go to Sources at the top then 'Configure Software Sources' in the top right [01:15] It'll prompt you for your password. [01:15] yep past that [01:15] Once entered, click on the 'Other Software' tab [01:15] At the bottom there's a button to 'Add...' [01:16] Click on that then enter the text: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu vivid main [01:16] got it. [01:16] when I add a source.. it also adds a 2nd entry with (Source Code) do I tick that? [01:16] That's up to you [01:16] I don't do it. [01:16] k [01:17] OK, now at a console, type: sudo apt update [01:17] how do I know if the source is successfully added? [01:17] Uh... well I'm assuming it would throw an error if not, but look in the list it'll be there. [01:17] Doing the: sudo apt update [01:17] step will tell you if there's an issue with the PPA [01:18] you mean in a term? [01:18] Yes [01:18] doing that now [01:19] Once that's done do: sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer [01:19] done.. says 1 pkg updatable.. but Muon was telling me that too. [01:19] Is this a JAR you created? [01:20] I tried to search for update-sun-jre which I was told was the name I want.. but no find in Muon [01:20] no.. minecraft [01:20] sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer [01:20] That'll get you the latestish version of Java [01:21] For me, I can click on a JAR file and it just executes, I'm using that package as my Java version in /etc/alternatives [01:21] ok.. working.. why is this so hard to do in Muon? [01:21] It's not, but you have to be looking for the correct package name [01:22] I prefer to do all package management on the console. [01:22] I boot up Muon when I want to browse around for a while. [01:23] no matter what search I use in Muon Oracle or java8.. it does not fine it [01:23] Yeah, I prefer sudo apt-get because you can see the inner goings on if it's relevant. [01:24] yep I can do it.. just bothers me that after so many years a pkg manager still seems to be a work in progress [01:25] Guest97914: Muon is relatively new [01:25] Heh. Windows doesn't even have a central package manager. Even systems like Steam have huge support issues because of the variety of weirdness that happens. [01:26] Noob137: Yup, and Steam needs to start providing support for partitioning applications on multiple drives too. [01:26] install done. how do I test? [01:26] * Etriaph has way too many steam games [01:26] Guest97914: java -version [01:26] lol [01:26] Should come up as Oracle Java 8 [01:26] java version "1.8.0_45" for me [01:27] yeah.. showing up in the apps now too [01:27] You should just be able to double-click (or single-click if you have it at default) the JAR now [01:27] yep.. same here [01:28] If it still doesn't execute like that, you may have to logout for the environment variables to take. [01:30] going to log out.. still not working [01:31] Any idea on how to get HDMI to show up as a sound device in Phonon Audio and Video settings? [01:32] I'm using HDMI/TV right now as my display, and it's an Asus Z97-A with a Realtek ALC892 [01:34] Noob137: It's configured in System Settings -> Multimedia [01:34] Yes, except HDMI doesn't show up as an option there, even though I'm using it. [01:34] For video [01:35] Is the HDMI audio working? [01:35] Are you just trying to setup video? [01:35] HDMI audio doesn't work. It doesn't show up in aplay -L or settings. [01:36] I already have video, and I'm using it now to type. [01:36] :) [01:37] OK, System Settings -> Multimedia is definitely where you'd specify the device, but if it doesn't show in the list of devices there... [01:38] Is there a way to reinstall/fix phonon, alsa-utils, etc., just to see if it's a software issue? [01:38] You *can* [01:38] What kind of HDMI card is it? [01:39] Well, it's an HDMI port on the Asus Z97-A, the sound card is a Realtek ALC892 [01:40] which is mobo onboard sound. [01:40] I can basically only get sound on a single Line Out 3.5mm jack. [01:41] Ooh [01:41] It means the audio is probably bridged internally. [01:43] I only have "Built In Analog Audio Stereo" listed as a device option in System Settings > Audio and Video [01:43] So if that sounds like what you figured, then I'm up for ideas. [01:45] There's probably a driver that converts the audio over to the HDMI out, configuring it under Linux might be a trick. [01:46] When I tried going to Realtek for a driver for the ALC892, their driver not only failed to compile, but just running configure and rebooting b0rked the system. [01:46] With that model of Asus people are even having issues doing what you want to do with Windows 7/8.1 [01:46] This is a laptop I'm assuming? [01:47] Nah, the Z97-A is a newish mobo for a PC [01:47] Been out for a year or two [01:48] Ah, I use a dedicated card for HDMI, Nvidia GTX 750 provides both an audio and video channel for HDMI. [01:48] Onboard audio/video is usually a nightmare. [01:48] :( [01:50] That goes with any system though. [01:51] Anything but eternet on a mobo is generally very poor quality results. [01:51] http://tinyurl.com/otw9mrb [01:51] That might be of some use to you [01:51] I keep hearing nvidia is a nightmare on linux, and amd gfx uses double the power of nvidia, and both cards are a bit too expensive - I've been waiting for lower-end 4k capable cards to drop to a reasonable price. [01:52] hi all [01:53] Noob137: I play CS:Source, Don't Starve, Civ V, L4D2 and Borderlands 2 on my Linux desktop. [01:53] It runs *better* under Linux :D [01:53] david0rk: Hi [01:53] :) [01:54] Yeah, I can play most Valve stuff even on Intel Integrated Graphics. :o [01:54] That's how long it's been since Valve released a game. [01:55] Noob137: Borderlands 2 is a bit of a bigger beast. [01:55] I heard they use procedural textures or something like that that was pretty intense. [01:56] I'm totally going to take the plunge when the Vive is released. [01:59] Etriaph: if you don't mind i have a question. [01:59] btw.. borderlands 2 is lovely. [02:00] or anyone really (referring to the question) anyone know why my virtual terminals (ctrl alt f1-f6) come up as blank on 15.04? [02:05] @Etriaph, I've been going through that thread. [02:08] It's weird, people keep saying adding that options line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf is supposed to work, but every variant I've ever tried did nothing. [02:10] are you talking about the intel hda models options? [02:20] Okay, so this: "lsmod | grep '^snd' | column -t" is supposed to show a "snd" with a bunch of things after it. [02:20] ALSA FAQ says that one of those things is "snd_hda_codec_hdmi", and mine doesn't have that. [02:21] It does have "snd_hda_codec_realtek", which is good, because it suggests it at least knows that I have a specific card. [02:22] Yes, I'm having HDMI sound issues because HDMI doesn't show up anywhere in my devices, aplay -L, or anywhere [02:32] Yeah, it's definitely recognizing the ALC892 and Intel HDA. The problem is that HDMI isn't anywhere at all in alsa's sphere of awareness === nero_ is now known as Guest75105 [05:25] hows things [06:42] You have a ToS [06:42] in this IRC channel [06:42] bahahahaha [06:43] n00bs [06:48] Hi [07:07] Has anyone had a problem that their kde5 desktop does not work in laptop without external display? [07:10] masaro: how it does not work? [07:10] The login screen work, but after typing the password (and selecting plasma) screen goes dark. [07:10] xfce does work. [07:11] masaro: no cursor? [07:11] But if i insert external display plasma do work. [07:11] Tm_T: Nothin in screen. Screen is blank. [07:13] masaro: well that's a new, sorry no direct idea what's wrong [07:13] I wonder if xorg logs would have anything helpful [07:14] Yup.. It sound so strange. I even reinstelled kubuntu but it did not help. (kept my old home intact) [07:17] Xorg logs seems ok and it even show the correct display and as xfce work without any problem I think problem is not in X but in plasma/kde [07:39] Good morning. [07:43] masaro: you have configured your X system to ignore the internal display. [07:43] masaro: either with 'xorg.conf' or via RANDR tools, like the KDE 'Display' preferences. [07:44] Walex: No, xfce does work. [07:44] masaro: perhaps I was not clear enough... [07:44] and I do not have anythin in xorg.conf. [07:45] masaro: BTW I hope that answering *after omitting this from the question* with "No, xfce does work" makes it look like that you are expecting psychic people to help you, and you are trying to catch out non-psychic people. [07:47] Walex: I meant with "xfce does work" that most probably the problem is in KDE/plasma as xfce does work with same xorg.conf/ randr config. [07:48] And I think that I found something from the logs that migh lead somewhere... [07:48] There seems to be log of segfaults in syslog about plasma component. [07:49] like : "ksplashqml[7061]: segfault" [07:49] and "kactivitymanage[7133]: segfault at 18" [08:19] masaro, are you running on virtualbox? [08:19] If so, downgrade to 4.3.26, they broke a bunch of crap with 4.2.28 [08:19] *4.3 [08:51] N3X15: No unfortunately not. But I can still try to downgrade. thanks. [09:28] hi all [09:34] <__dan__> hi [09:41] o/ [10:29] Can someone please tell me what the following means and what I need to do when I get something like this? https://paste.kde.org/pldrmypm5/aspftj [10:30] sudo apt-get install -f [10:31] and before you press "y", have a look what it will do then === Guest78177 is now known as thelionroars === john is now known as Guest77568 [11:13] Hi there :) I'll try to be quick. Problem : 2nd HDD on Desktop(Kubuntu 15.04 - 32bit), used only for saving files, doesn't mount automatically when i log in. What should i do? === juboxi is now known as jubo2 [11:23] Hello [11:23] <__dan__> hi Guest77568, sounds like you need to add that to /etc/fstab [11:23] I'm so sorry to hear about this drama going on with Canonicle.. this sucks [11:24] Riddell: hey Jonathan, thank you for all the hard work you and the rest here put into Kubuntu [11:24] <__dan__> hi Roey [11:24] hey Dan [11:32] <__dan__> I came here just to show my support too Roey, that was a couple days ago and I've stuck around, there is also #kubuntu-offtopic for chat and such, this channel is for support :) [11:33] ah! [11:33] __dan__: well Jonathan Riddel is here so that's why I came here [11:34] after reading this bit of unfortunate of news in The Register: http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2015/05/27/kubuntu_ubuntu_loses_head_shuttleworth_riddell/ [11:34] <__dan__> looks like he's afk, but I'm sure he will appreciate the kind words [11:34] aye [11:34] <__dan__> nobody likes to see a good man get stabbed in the back, and that seems to be precisely what's occured [11:35] a good -hardworking- man [11:35] * __dan__ nods [11:35] and for asking questions the majority of us want to know! [11:35] <__dan__> I suspect a lot of people have benefitted from his hard work without even being aware of it [11:36] <__dan__> yeah to be honest the whole situation is very fishy [11:36] <__dan__> and reeks of bad management [11:37] Hey folks [11:37] hi BluesKaj [11:37] <__dan__> hi BluesKaj [11:38] Hi clivejo, __dan__ [11:40] Hi! Will we get Plasma 5.3.1 via the backports PPA? I'm really suffering with 5.3, it crashes all the time and has a lot of problems. Thank you! [11:40] Haudegen: wait your turn!! Im waiting on it for wily! [11:41] <__dan__> I hope so, I'm sure it will be soon, been suffering with the 100% CPU lockscreen bug myself [11:41] wiley... wasn't that the coyote in the road runner cartoons? [11:41] <__dan__> ya Wil-E-Coyote wasnt it? [11:41] yeah, I was close [11:41] clivejo: So we won't get 5.3.1 for Vivid? [11:42] it should be available soon , not sure exactly when [11:42] clivejo: That's too bad, then I'll have to downgrade to Kubuntu 14.04 on all my desktop machines. :( [11:42] <__dan__> Haudegen: I would be very surprised if the PPA doesn't get updated soon [11:43] I didnt say that, I said wait! [11:43] BluesKaj, __dan__: Thank you! I'm looking forward to it. [11:43] It was due on Tuesday, but with recent events and devs being busy, its been delayed [11:43] clivejo: Sorry, I just wanted to make it clear. [11:43] <__dan__> ah I didn't know that [11:44] clivejo: I see the problem. :) [11:44] <__dan__> I've been expecting it all week, but yeah the guys have been otherwise occupied :/ [11:44] __dan__: Perfect timing. [11:44] they are working on it [11:45] there was a call for testing last night [11:45] clivejo: Great news, thank you! [11:50] hey BluesKaj and clivejo [11:51] hi Roey [11:52] hi Roey [11:54] <__dan__> anyone heard any more about the Canonical debacle? [11:54] * __dan__ is curious to know the future of Kubuntu, for reasons I assume are obvious [11:55] we should stick with that discussion in offtopic [11:56] <__dan__> sorry, my bad, too busy discussing wisdom teeth in there :P [11:56] <__dan__> :) [11:57] surely that is a on-topic subject? [11:57] yeah. we shouldn't scare off potential kubuntu users with talk about a house divided [11:57] <__dan__> nah he's right, it's not a support question [11:59] <__dan__> I have Kubuntu on three machines and it underpins 95% of my productivity, I know I'm jumping the gun but I'm curious regarding what the future might hold [11:59] __dan__: regarding the future of Kubuntu,l [12:00] I imagine that maybe someone will fork Kubuntu and that will become the new normal for us. [12:00] <__dan__> but yeah #kubuntu-offtopic maybe better place [12:00] this is not saying this is what I prefer, of course [12:00] ahhhh got it, thanks [12:00] btw what is Project Neon based on? [12:00] Kubuntu? [12:23] Roey: Yes, but now that 15.04 is out, you would probably prefer to use the backports PPA to be reasonably current [13:23] sava === mkv is now known as m4v [13:46] which is the best download accelerator for ubuntu 14.04? [13:47] D322i5: I like fatrat/slimrat [13:48] D322i5, there aren't any afaik ...there is a download manager called kget, however [13:49] oops [13:51] genii and BluesKaj: thanks [13:51] din't know about the "rats" [13:52] !info fatrat [13:52] fatrat (source: fatrat): multi-protocol download manager, feature rich and extensible via plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0~beta2-0ubuntu10 (vivid), package size 1160 kB, installed size 3296 kB [13:53] genii which rat is best according to you? [13:53] genii, do you use them much ? [13:56] D322i5: I have fatrat from a long time, slimrat came after but I never used it. It works well, c an have 5 different threads of a download going for instance [13:56] BluesKaj: I actually use it quite often when downloading large iso files or similar [13:57] I only wish it could be used as a backend for apt, but not really any way to plug it into that [13:59] genii, does it compare to kget ? [14:00] BluesKaj: It can do way more [14:00] It's like kget on steroids :) [14:01] can it accomodate torrents ? [14:01] Yup [14:02] cool [14:02] * genii slides cup`ocoffee a fresh mug [14:07] trying to add a network folder via ssh, but I keep getting "unable to connect to server please try again", but i can connect find in the terminal. === Tyras is now known as Tyras[Away] === xavi_ is now known as xavi__ === kubuntu is now known as Guest28974 [15:41] * summics2 Hello There [15:41] <__dan__> hi [15:42] __dan__: hi [15:43] hi [16:02] * summics2 Hello There [16:02] * summics2 Hello There [16:08] hi from here summics2 [17:13] Hello ! [17:13] I have problem with Plasma5 [17:13] (5.3) I get lot of freeze :/ [17:13] I must kill every time plasmashell and relaunch (its work correctly under XFCE but i want to use Plasma5 [17:13] ) [17:38] hmmm, when I have two screens attached to my notebook then start of plasma is extremly slow [17:39] if it's just notebook screen it's really fast === kubuntu is now known as Guest34156 === kubuntu_ is now known as Malsasa [17:47] bonjour === Tyras is now known as Tyras[Away] === dada is now known as Guest80661 [20:10] after an upgrade to kubuntu 15.04 (plasma) I have had issues with colors. I can try and change themes, or color schemes, but it still isnt right. Folders are invisible as are characters, particularly in GTK. is there a folder I can delete in my profile to reset the theme and colors? [20:12] westyvw_, system settings>workspace theme>colors etc [20:12] nope that doesnt work [20:12] there seems to be no combo that will set it to what it should be\ [20:13] even hitting default doesnt reset right [20:13] desktop themes [20:14] application style etc [20:14] yep, played with all of that. at this point I just want it to rebuiild any and all color schemes, The fresh install on my laptop works fine [20:16] westyvw_, have you considered upgrading wih the launchpad kubuntu backports ppa to plasma 5.3? [20:16] yep, did that too [20:18] and you updated and upgraded etc since [20:19] update, upgrade, dist-upgrade to make sure :) [20:24] simple and it woksI'm using the oxygen theme and marble colour for now , it's simple and it works since plasma 5 is still in development [20:24] oops damn cursor jumped [20:25] yeah like i said it works fine from the defualt install on my laptop. its just this install which has been though several upgrade cycles. I should be able to remove (or copy into) the thems and colors and fix it [23:01] Uh...Hello? I'm a complete newbie trying to install Kubuntu. I'm running into some trouble with the installation process, and would really appreciate any help that anyone can give me. [23:02] When I try to run the installation from the live version of the os, an error code 'ubi-partman failure, error 141' shows up. === Tyras is now known as Tyras[Away]