[00:03] <Noob137> Realtek's website provided a source you can download and compile for the ALC892, but it doesn't compile and even running configure seems to somehow b0rk the system.
[00:46] <Guest97914> hi, need to figure out why I cant seem to run a .jar file as an executable?
[00:47] <Guest97914> im in 14.10 kubuntu
[00:48] <Guest97914> actually in 15.04
[00:48] <Guest97914> when I change properties on the jar and make it exec.. it does not work .. still wants to open it with ark
[00:49] <Guest97914> if I list java as the prefered app.. it shows a bouncing bean.. like it trying to run it.. but no
[00:55] <Guest97914> does kubuntu have a jre installed by default?
[01:01] <mparillo> For minecraft for my daughter, I made a shell script to call java.
[01:03] <Etriaph> Guest97914: open-jdk should be installed by default.
[01:03] <Etriaph> Guest97914: java -jar <file.jar>
[01:07] <Etriaph> I would suggest #java for details on how to create an executable jar, it's out of scope here.
[01:07] <Guest97914> yeah.. dont think open-jdk will work
[01:08] <Etriaph> Guest97914: Oracle has packages for Ubuntu.
[01:08] <Guest97914> I am trying to add software source to Muon .. but not working
[01:08] <Guest97914> found this issue in KDE faq
[01:08] <Guest97914> tells me how to change muon.. but in older version.
[01:09] <Guest97914> I have added the souce.. but it does not seem to be getting to the repository
[01:09] <Etriaph> http://askubuntu.com/questions/521145/how-to-install-oracle-java-on-ubuntu-14-04
[01:09] <Etriaph> Did you do apt update?
[01:09] <Guest97914> yep.. thats the one I am looking at
[01:09] <Etriaph> I installed JDK 8 using those instructions for RubyMine
[01:10] <Guest97914> using gui software center
[01:10] <Etriaph> I haven't used Muon to add sources.
[01:11] <Etriaph> Click Add and enter: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu vivid main
[01:14] <Guest97914> im sorry I dont understand your last statement click add where?
[01:14] <Etriaph> In Muon Discover, go to Sources at the top then 'Configure Software Sources' in the top right
[01:15] <Etriaph> It'll prompt you for your password.
[01:15] <Guest97914> yep past that
[01:15] <Etriaph> Once entered, click on the 'Other Software' tab
[01:15] <Etriaph> At the bottom there's a button to 'Add...'
[01:16] <Etriaph> Click on that then enter the text: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu vivid main
[01:16] <Guest97914> got it.
[01:16] <Guest97914> when I add a source.. it also adds a 2nd entry with (Source Code) do I tick that?
[01:16] <Etriaph> That's up to you
[01:16] <Etriaph> I don't do it.
[01:16] <Guest97914> k
[01:17] <Etriaph> OK, now at a console, type: sudo apt update
[01:17] <Guest97914> how do I know if the source is successfully added?
[01:17] <Etriaph> Uh... well I'm assuming it would throw an error if not, but look in the list it'll be there.
[01:17] <Etriaph> Doing the: sudo apt update
[01:17] <Etriaph> step will tell you if there's an issue with the PPA
[01:18] <Guest97914> you mean in a term?
[01:18] <Etriaph> Yes
[01:18] <Guest97914> doing that now
[01:19] <Etriaph> Once that's done do: sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
[01:19] <Guest97914> done.. says 1 pkg updatable.. but Muon was telling me that too.
[01:19] <Etriaph> Is this a JAR you created?
[01:20] <Guest97914> I tried to search for update-sun-jre which I was told was the name I want.. but no find in Muon
[01:20] <Guest97914> no.. minecraft
[01:20] <Etriaph> sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
[01:20] <Etriaph> That'll get you the latestish version of Java
[01:21] <Etriaph> For me, I can click on a JAR file and it just executes, I'm using that package as my Java version in /etc/alternatives
[01:21] <Guest97914> ok.. working.. why is this so hard to do in Muon?
[01:21] <Etriaph> It's not, but you have to be looking for the correct package name
[01:22] <Etriaph> I prefer to do all package management on the console.
[01:22] <Etriaph> I boot up Muon when I want to browse around for a while.
[01:23] <Guest97914> no matter what search I use in Muon Oracle or java8.. it does not fine it
[01:23] <Noob137> Yeah, I prefer sudo apt-get because you can see the inner goings on if it's relevant.
[01:24] <Guest97914> yep I can do it.. just bothers me that after so many years a pkg manager still seems to be a work in progress
[01:25] <Etriaph> Guest97914: Muon is relatively new
[01:25] <Noob137> Heh.  Windows doesn't even have a central package manager.  Even systems like Steam have huge support issues because of the variety of weirdness that happens.
[01:26] <Etriaph> Noob137: Yup, and Steam needs to start providing support for partitioning applications on multiple drives too.
[01:26] <Guest97914> install done. how do I test?
[01:26]  * Etriaph has way too many steam games
[01:26] <Etriaph> Guest97914: java -version
[01:26] <Guest97914> lol
[01:26] <Etriaph> Should come up as Oracle Java 8
[01:26] <Etriaph> java version "1.8.0_45" for me
[01:27] <Guest97914> yeah.. showing up in the apps now too
[01:27] <Etriaph> You should just be able to double-click (or single-click if you have it at default) the JAR now
[01:27] <Guest97914> yep.. same here
[01:28] <Etriaph> If it still doesn't execute like that, you may have to logout for the environment variables to take.
[01:30] <Guest97914> going to log out.. still not working
[01:31] <Noob137> Any idea on how to get HDMI to show up as a sound device in Phonon Audio and Video settings?
[01:32] <Noob137> I'm using HDMI/TV right now as my display, and it's an Asus Z97-A with a Realtek ALC892
[01:34] <Etriaph> Noob137: It's configured in System Settings -> Multimedia
[01:34] <Noob137> Yes, except HDMI doesn't show up as an option there, even though I'm using it.
[01:34] <Noob137> For video
[01:35] <Etriaph> Is the HDMI audio working?
[01:35] <Etriaph> Are you just trying to setup video?
[01:35] <Noob137> HDMI audio doesn't work.  It doesn't show up in aplay -L or settings.
[01:36] <Noob137> I already have video, and I'm using it now to type.
[01:36] <Noob137> :)
[01:37] <Etriaph> OK, System Settings -> Multimedia is definitely where you'd specify the device, but if it doesn't show in the list of devices there...
[01:38] <Noob137> Is there a way to reinstall/fix phonon, alsa-utils, etc., just to see if it's a software issue?
[01:38] <Etriaph> You *can*
[01:38] <Etriaph> What kind of HDMI card is it?
[01:39] <Noob137> Well, it's an HDMI port on the Asus Z97-A, the sound card is a Realtek ALC892
[01:40] <Noob137> which is mobo onboard sound.
[01:40] <Noob137> I can basically only get sound on a single Line Out 3.5mm jack.
[01:41] <Etriaph> Ooh
[01:41] <Etriaph> It means the audio is probably bridged internally.
[01:43] <Noob137> I only have "Built In Analog Audio Stereo" listed as a device option in System Settings > Audio and Video
[01:43] <Noob137> So if that sounds like what you figured, then I'm up for ideas.
[01:45] <Etriaph> There's probably a driver that converts the audio over to the HDMI out, configuring it under Linux might be a trick.
[01:46] <Noob137> When I tried going to Realtek for a driver for the ALC892, their driver not only failed to compile, but just running configure and rebooting b0rked the system.
[01:46] <Etriaph> With that model of Asus people are even having issues doing what you want to do with Windows 7/8.1
[01:46] <Etriaph> This is a laptop I'm assuming?
[01:47] <Noob137> Nah, the Z97-A is a newish mobo for a PC
[01:47] <Noob137> Been out for a year or two
[01:48] <Etriaph> Ah, I use a dedicated card for HDMI, Nvidia GTX 750 provides both an audio and video channel for HDMI.
[01:48] <Etriaph> Onboard audio/video is usually a nightmare.
[01:48] <Noob137> :(
[01:50] <Etriaph> That goes with any system though.
[01:51] <Etriaph> Anything but eternet on a mobo is generally very poor quality results.
[01:51] <Etriaph> http://tinyurl.com/otw9mrb
[01:51] <Etriaph> That might be of some use to you
[01:51] <Noob137> I keep hearing nvidia is a nightmare on linux, and amd gfx uses double the power of nvidia, and both cards are a bit too expensive - I've been waiting for lower-end 4k capable cards to drop to a reasonable price.
[01:52] <david0rk> hi all
[01:53] <Etriaph> Noob137: I play CS:Source, Don't Starve, Civ V, L4D2 and Borderlands 2 on my Linux desktop.
[01:53] <Etriaph> It runs *better* under Linux :D
[01:53] <Etriaph> david0rk: Hi
[01:53] <Noob137> :)
[01:54] <Noob137> Yeah, I can play most Valve stuff even on Intel Integrated Graphics.  :o
[01:54] <Noob137> That's how long it's been since Valve released a game.
[01:55] <Etriaph> Noob137: Borderlands 2 is a bit of a bigger beast.
[01:55] <Noob137> I heard they use procedural textures or something like that that was pretty intense.
[01:56] <Noob137> I'm totally going to take the plunge when the Vive is released.
[01:59] <david0rk> Etriaph: if you don't mind i have a question.
[01:59] <david0rk> btw.. borderlands 2 is lovely.
[02:00] <david0rk> or anyone really (referring to the question)  anyone know why my virtual terminals (ctrl alt f1-f6) come up as blank on 15.04?
[02:05] <Noob137> @Etriaph, I've been going through that thread.
[02:08] <Noob137> It's weird, people keep saying adding that options line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf is supposed to work, but every variant I've ever tried did nothing.
[02:10] <david0rk> are you talking about the intel hda models options?
[02:20] <Noob137> Okay, so this: "lsmod | grep '^snd' | column -t" is supposed to show a "snd" with a bunch of things after it.
[02:20] <Noob137> ALSA FAQ says that one of those things is "snd_hda_codec_hdmi", and mine doesn't have that.
[02:21] <Noob137> It does have "snd_hda_codec_realtek", which is good, because it suggests it at least knows that I have a specific card.
[02:22] <Noob137> Yes, I'm having HDMI sound issues because HDMI doesn't show up anywhere in my devices, aplay -L, or anywhere
[02:32] <Noob137> Yeah, it's definitely recognizing the ALC892 and Intel HDA.  The problem is that HDMI isn't anywhere at all in alsa's sphere of awareness
[05:25] <Guest75105> hows things
[06:42] <aicra> You have a ToS
[06:42] <aicra> in this IRC channel
[06:42] <aicra> bahahahaha
[06:43] <aicra> n00bs
[06:48] <masaro> Hi
[07:07] <masaro> Has anyone had a problem that their kde5 desktop does not work in laptop without external display?
[07:10] <Tm_T> masaro: how it does not work?
[07:10] <masaro> The login screen work, but after typing the password (and selecting plasma) screen goes dark.
[07:10] <masaro> xfce does work.
[07:11] <Tm_T> masaro: no cursor?
[07:11] <masaro> But if i insert external display plasma do work.
[07:11] <masaro> Tm_T: Nothin in screen. Screen is blank.
[07:13] <Tm_T> masaro: well that's a new, sorry no direct idea what's wrong
[07:13] <Tm_T> I wonder if xorg logs would have anything helpful
[07:14] <masaro> Yup.. It sound so strange. I even reinstelled kubuntu but it did not help.  (kept my old home intact)
[07:17] <masaro> Xorg logs seems ok and it even show the correct display and as xfce work without any problem I think problem is not in X but in plasma/kde
[07:39] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:43] <Walex> masaro: you have configured your X system to ignore the internal display.
[07:43] <Walex> masaro: either with 'xorg.conf' or via RANDR tools, like the KDE 'Display' preferences.
[07:44] <masaro> Walex: No, xfce does work.
[07:44] <Walex> masaro: perhaps I was not clear enough...
[07:44] <masaro> and I do not have anythin in xorg.conf.
[07:45] <Walex> masaro: BTW I hope that answering *after omitting this from the question* with "No, xfce does work" makes it look like that you are expecting psychic people to help you, and you are trying to catch out non-psychic people.
[07:47] <masaro> Walex: I meant with "xfce does work" that most probably the problem is in KDE/plasma as xfce does work with same xorg.conf/ randr config.
[07:48] <masaro> And I think that I found something from the logs that migh lead somewhere...
[07:48] <masaro> There seems to be log of segfaults in syslog about plasma component.
[07:49] <masaro> like :  "ksplashqml[7061]: segfault"
[07:49] <masaro> and "kactivitymanage[7133]: segfault at 18"
[08:19] <N3X15> masaro, are you running on virtualbox?
[08:19] <N3X15> If so, downgrade to 4.3.26, they broke a bunch of crap with 4.2.28
[08:19] <N3X15> *4.3
[08:51] <masaro> N3X15: No unfortunately not. But I can still try to downgrade. thanks.
[09:28] <ejay> hi all
[09:34] <__dan__> hi
[09:41] <lordievader> o/
[10:29] <fewcha> Can someone please tell me what the following means and what I need to do when I get something like this? https://paste.kde.org/pldrmypm5/aspftj
[10:30] <hyper_ch> sudo apt-get install -f
[10:31] <hyper_ch> and before you press "y", have a look what it will do then
[11:13] <Guest77568> Hi there :)  I'll try to be quick.  Problem :  2nd HDD on Desktop(Kubuntu 15.04 - 32bit), used only for saving files, doesn't mount automatically when i log in. What should i do?
[11:23] <Roey> Hello
[11:23] <__dan__> hi Guest77568, sounds like you need to add that to /etc/fstab
[11:23] <Roey> I'm so sorry to hear about this drama going on with Canonicle.. this sucks
[11:24] <Roey> Riddell:  hey Jonathan, thank you for all the hard work you and the rest here put into Kubuntu
[11:24] <__dan__> hi Roey
[11:24] <Roey> hey Dan
[11:32] <__dan__> I came here just to show my support too Roey, that was a couple days ago and I've stuck around, there is also #kubuntu-offtopic for chat and such, this channel is for support :)
[11:33] <Roey> ah!
[11:33] <Roey> __dan__:  well Jonathan Riddel is here so that's why I came here
[11:34] <Roey> after reading this bit of unfortunate of news in The Register: http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2015/05/27/kubuntu_ubuntu_loses_head_shuttleworth_riddell/
[11:34] <__dan__> looks like he's afk, but I'm sure he will appreciate the kind words
[11:34] <Roey> aye
[11:34] <__dan__> nobody likes to see a good man get stabbed in the back, and that seems to be precisely what's occured
[11:35] <Roey> a good -hardworking- man
[11:35]  * __dan__ nods
[11:35] <clivejo> and for asking questions the majority of us want to know!
[11:35] <__dan__> I suspect a lot of people have benefitted from his hard work without even being aware of it
[11:36] <__dan__> yeah to be honest the whole situation is very fishy
[11:36] <__dan__> and reeks of bad management
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:37] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[11:37] <__dan__> hi BluesKaj
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Hi clivejo,  __dan__
[11:40] <Haudegen> Hi! Will we get Plasma 5.3.1 via the backports PPA?  I'm really suffering with 5.3, it crashes all the time and has a lot of problems.  Thank you!
[11:40] <clivejo> Haudegen: wait your turn!!  Im waiting on it for wily!
[11:41] <__dan__> I hope so, I'm sure it will be soon, been suffering with the 100% CPU lockscreen bug myself
[11:41] <hyper_ch> wiley... wasn't that the coyote in the road runner cartoons?
[11:41] <__dan__> ya Wil-E-Coyote wasnt it?
[11:41] <hyper_ch> yeah, I was close
[11:41] <Haudegen> clivejo: So we won't get 5.3.1 for Vivid?
[11:42] <BluesKaj> it should be available soon , not sure exactly when
[11:42] <Haudegen> clivejo: That's too bad, then I'll have to downgrade to Kubuntu 14.04 on all my desktop machines. :(
[11:42] <__dan__> Haudegen: I would be very surprised if the PPA doesn't get updated soon
[11:43] <clivejo> I didnt say that, I said wait!
[11:43] <Haudegen> BluesKaj, __dan__: Thank you!  I'm looking forward to it.
[11:43] <clivejo> It was due on Tuesday, but with recent events and devs being busy, its been delayed
[11:43] <Haudegen> clivejo: Sorry, I just wanted to make it clear.
[11:43] <__dan__> ah I didn't know that
[11:44] <Haudegen> clivejo: I see the problem. :)
[11:44] <__dan__> I've been expecting it all week, but yeah the guys have been otherwise occupied :/
[11:44] <Haudegen> __dan__: Perfect timing.
[11:44] <clivejo> they are working on it
[11:45] <clivejo> there was a call for testing last night
[11:45] <Haudegen> clivejo: Great news, thank you!
[11:50] <Roey> hey BluesKaj and clivejo
[11:51] <BluesKaj> hi Roey
[11:52] <clivejo> hi Roey
[11:54] <__dan__> anyone heard any more about the Canonical debacle?
[11:54]  * __dan__ is curious to know the future of Kubuntu, for reasons I assume are obvious
[11:55] <BluesKaj> we should stick with that discussion in offtopic
[11:56] <__dan__> sorry, my bad, too busy discussing wisdom teeth in there :P
[11:56] <__dan__> :)
[11:57] <clivejo> surely that is a on-topic subject?
[11:57] <BluesKaj> yeah. we shouldn't scare off potential kubuntu users with talk about a house divided
[11:57] <__dan__> nah he's right, it's not a support question
[11:59] <__dan__> I have Kubuntu on three machines and it underpins 95% of my productivity, I know I'm jumping the gun but I'm curious regarding what the future might hold
[11:59] <Roey> __dan__:  regarding the future of Kubuntu,l
[12:00] <Roey> I imagine that maybe someone will fork Kubuntu and that will become the new normal for us.
[12:00] <__dan__> but yeah #kubuntu-offtopic maybe better place
[12:00] <Roey> this is not saying this is what I prefer, of course
[12:00] <Roey> ahhhh got it, thanks
[12:00] <Roey> btw what is Project Neon based on?
[12:00] <Roey> Kubuntu?
[12:23] <mparillo> Roey: Yes, but now that 15.04 is out, you would probably prefer to use the backports PPA to be reasonably current
[13:23] <rayan> sava
[13:46] <D322i5> which is the best download accelerator for ubuntu 14.04?
[13:47] <genii> D322i5: I like fatrat/slimrat
[13:48] <BluesKaj> D322i5, there aren't any afaik ...there is a download manager called kget, however
[13:49] <BluesKaj> oops
[13:51] <D322i5> genii and BluesKaj: thanks
[13:51] <BluesKaj> din't know about the "rats"
[13:52] <genii> !info fatrat
[13:53] <D322i5> genii which rat is best according to you?
[13:53] <BluesKaj> genii, do you use them much ?
[13:56] <genii> D322i5: I have fatrat from a long time, slimrat came after but I never used it. It works well, c an have 5 different threads of a download going for instance
[13:56] <genii> BluesKaj: I actually use it quite often when downloading large iso files or similar
[13:57] <genii> I only wish it could be used as a backend for apt, but not really any way to plug it into that
[13:59] <BluesKaj> genii, does it compare to kget ?
[14:00] <genii> BluesKaj: It can do way more
[14:00] <genii> It's like kget on steroids :)
[14:01] <BluesKaj> can it accomodate torrents ?
[14:01] <genii> Yup
[14:02] <BluesKaj> cool
[14:02]  * genii slides cup`ocoffee a fresh mug
[14:07] <patrick__> trying to add a network folder via ssh, but I keep getting "unable to connect to server please try again", but i can connect find in the terminal.
[15:41]  * summics2 Hello There
[15:41] <__dan__> hi
[15:42] <svend-ev> __dan__: hi
[15:43] <EvilRoey> hi
[16:02]  * summics2 Hello There
[16:02]  * summics2 Hello There
[16:08] <BluesKaj> hi from here summics2
[17:13] <NeuhNeuh> Hello !
[17:13] <NeuhNeuh> I have problem with Plasma5
[17:13] <NeuhNeuh> (5.3) I get lot of freeze :/
[17:13] <NeuhNeuh> I must kill every time plasmashell and relaunch (its work correctly under XFCE but i want to use Plasma5
[17:13] <NeuhNeuh> )
[17:38] <hyper_ch> hmmm, when I have two screens attached to my notebook then start of plasma is extremly slow
[17:39] <hyper_ch> if it's just notebook screen it's really fast
[17:47] <Guest34156> bonjour
[20:10] <westyvw_> after an upgrade to kubuntu 15.04 (plasma) I have had issues with colors. I can try and change themes, or color schemes, but it still isnt right. Folders are invisible as are characters, particularly in GTK. is there a folder I can delete in my profile to reset the theme and colors?
[20:12] <BluesKaj> westyvw_, system settings>workspace theme>colors etc
[20:12] <westyvw_> nope that doesnt work
[20:12] <westyvw_> there seems to be no combo that will set it to what it should be\
[20:13] <westyvw_> even hitting default doesnt reset right
[20:13] <BluesKaj> desktop themes
[20:14] <BluesKaj> application style etc
[20:14] <westyvw_> yep, played with all of that. at this point I just want it to rebuiild any and all color schemes, The fresh install on my laptop works fine
[20:16] <BluesKaj> westyvw_, have you considered upgrading wih the launchpad kubuntu backports ppa to plasma 5.3?
[20:16] <westyvw_> yep, did that too
[20:18] <BluesKaj> and you updated and upgraded etc since
[20:19] <westyvw_> update, upgrade, dist-upgrade to make sure :)
[20:24] <BluesKaj> simple and it woksI'm using the oxygen theme and marble colour for now , it's simple and it works since plasma 5 is still in development
[20:24] <BluesKaj> oops damn cursor jumped
[20:25] <westyvw_> yeah like i said it works fine from the defualt install on my laptop. its just this install which has been though several upgrade cycles. I should be able to remove (or copy into) the thems and colors and fix it
[23:01] <hui> Uh...Hello? I'm a complete newbie trying to install Kubuntu. I'm running into some trouble with the installation process, and would really appreciate any help that anyone can give me.
[23:02] <hui> When I try to run the installation from the live version of the os, an error code 'ubi-partman failure, error 141' shows up.