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pittiGood morning03:29
larsugood morning!05:28
didrocksgood morning06:05
seb128good morning desktopers06:18
seb128didrocks, hey there as well ;-)06:18
didrocksre seb12806:20
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seb128hum, having that font corruption issue, needs to restart session, brb07:48
Laneyyoooooo08:00
seb128hey Laney08:00
larsuyooooooooo08:00
seb128how are you?08:00
Laneypretty good!08:01
Laneyit's raining loads and I am happy because it is going to replenish the water butt08:01
Laney#middleagedlife08:01
willcookehi ho08:02
seb128lol08:02
seb128hey willcooke08:02
didrocksmorning Laney, willcooke08:02
larsuhaha08:04
larsuhi willcooke08:04
Laneyhey didrocks et larsu und willcooke08:04
Laneyfeeling older larsu?08:04
larsua bit08:04
* larsu searches for grey hair08:05
Laneyha08:06
seb128thursday has been very frustrating, spent most of the day fighting with stupid devices/boot issues (bricked phone, took me 3 hours to find a way to restore it, snappy refusing to boot on uefi machines which is still not resolved), let's hope today is better08:10
larsuugh, sorry man08:10
seb128though my bq just updated and seems like they routed proposed to the wrong channel08:10
seb128I got the vivid update but without the bq customizations08:10
Laneydid you notice the launchpad outage yesterday?08:10
seb128the phone is still working fine, but I want the custom stuff back :p08:11
Laneynot just a bad week for you :)08:11
seb128yeah08:11
seb128some of the phone infra was down as well08:11
seb128which didn't help while I was trying to unbrick things08:11
Laneyoh, robert_ancell uploaded a gst1 patch to pidgin08:48
seb128saw that08:52
seb128nice!08:52
seb128what else was still on gst0.10?08:52
seb128or was that the last big one?08:52
Laneythat might be it for main08:53
seb128\o/09:04
Laneypitti: do you know about the dbusmock test failure?09:31
Laneyand if the network access issues are being fixed (update-manager)?09:31
larsuactually, you can do everything *but* "calc"09:32
pittiLaney: dbusmock> haven't yet looked into it, that was new from yesterday09:33
pittiLaney: so far I wrote off everything that failed yesterday as "PS4 failure"09:33
pittiLaney: will have a look ASAP (but piloting right now)09:33
Laneymmm, it seems to have run correctly and reproes locally09:33
LaneyI'll look for a few minutes but otherwise will leave it to the expert ;-)09:34
pittiLocationAreaCode = XXX09:36
pittiLaney: hmm, seems something just changed in ofono-phonesim or ofono itself?09:36
pittilooks like a trivial fix anyway09:36
pittiactually, no09:36
pittidbusmock/templates/ofono.py:        'LocationAreaCode': _parameters.get('LocationAreaCode', 987),09:37
pitti987 is the template's internal default09:37
pittiso perhaps the XXX is some kind of new obfuscation in ofono?09:37
Laneyyes09:37
Laneyit's in the diff of the latest upload09:37
* pitti is by far not an ofono expert, sorry09:37
Laneydon't know why they did this - apparently you can just pass --private to get the old behaviour09:40
Laneyprobably missing something09:40
Laneyanyway, /me will fix09:40
pittiLaney: ah, so dbusmock's test should use --private now? that sounds like an ubuntu delta, or is that upstream for a change?09:41
pittinote that dbusmock is being used in other distros, so we can't rely on ubuntu specific changes09:41
pittiwe can at most relax the test, perhaps check for a thing they didn't obfuscate09:41
pittiso d-bus reports it correctly, just list-modems doesn't?09:41
Laneyit is merged into something on github09:42
pittithat's really odd -- these are test scripts, not "production" scripts09:42
pittiLaney: https://github.com/rilmodem/ofono is "our" branch09:42
pitti(and the temporary fork has lasted for like 2 years now)09:43
Laneyoh right, sorry, I'm not au fait with this09:45
Laneypitti: I could try passing --private and then fall back if it doesn't work09:55
Laneypitti: or just stop checking for these things they obfuscated09:55
Laneywhat do you prefer?09:55
pittiLaney: is there a property that the mock sets which isn't obfuscated? then checking that woudl be best IMHO09:56
pittiLaney: if there's none, then let's just drop that particular assert09:57
pittiwell, *best* would be to revert that XXX change, these are test scripts for $deity's sake09:57
pittiif anythign ever uses them in production that should be slapped09:57
LaneyPresent or PinRequired09:57
pittia program exec'ing a shell program exec'ing dbus-send to do a dbus call is just wrong09:57
Laneyyou fancy taking up that argument? :)09:58
pittiI wish we would have blocked ofono on this, not gobject-introspection09:59
pittiLaney: I'll file a bug and assign it to Tony09:59
LaneyI guess it got by because we don't test reverse build or test deps10:00
pittiright10:00
pittiLaney: filed bug 1459983; for now, I'm happy to ignore the failure for g-i10:04
ubot5bug 1459983 in ofono (Ubuntu) "latest version obfuscates data in test scripts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145998310:04
Laneyok, I'll give you a PR to tweak the test to search for different things10:04
Laneythanks!10:04
pittiLaney: cheers! waving through g-i for now10:06
pittino need to hold that hostage for this10:06
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ochosiSweet5hark1: since you're here too, would you advise us (xubuntu) to try to get it only into ubuntu then?12:03
ochosi(the LO icon-set)12:04
Sweet5hark1ochosi: getting it in upstream is best.12:04
Trevinhodidrocks, seb128: hey... Do you remember that bug of update manager not being unminizable... And I've shown you a method to reproduce the issue in Bruxelles? I thought I had it written down but it seems I haven't... Do you happen to remember it?12:48
didrocksTrevinho: hum, I remember the bug, I don't remember though the method to reproduce it, sorry :/12:48
Trevinhoyeah, I was imaging... I tried :(12:49
seb128Trevinho, I think you showed something, I didn't memorize the details though :-/12:51
Trevinhoyeah, sorry... I was hoping in your super memory. Mine is leaving :°(12:52
didrocksTrevinho: you are younger than us! :)12:53
willcookeGet off our lawn Trevinho12:53
Trevinhodidrocks: that's true and I've avoided to mention that... As it makes things even more sad :(12:53
Trevinho:o12:54
willcooke:D12:54
seb128Trevinho, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/98958812:54
ubot5Launchpad bug 989588 in unity (Ubuntu) "update-manager popup is shown on launcher and alt-tab list but window doesn't show up" [High,In progress]12:54
seb128is that this issue?12:54
Trevinhoyep12:54
seb128it seems to happen if the window shows while locked12:55
Trevinhomh, I've found a way that involves compiz to be restarted hardly... And that's probably a way. but not THE way I had...12:55
Trevinhoespecially for recovering it12:55
seb128Trevinho, reading that bug ChrisTownsend has a way as well12:56
seb128Trevinho, sleep 10; update-manager, lock, wait, unlock12:56
Trevinhoseb128: yes, but there's another case I found, the fix he proposed doesn't solve the problem...12:56
seb128hum, k12:57
seb128didrocks, thanks for livecd uploads btw!13:10
didrocksyw ;)13:11
seb128next I need to chase cjwatson and Laney for the cdimage/launchpad tweaks right?13:11
didrocksindeed13:31
didrocksI guess Laney shouldn't be that far13:31
didrocks:)13:31
willcookeLaney, is your butt replenished?13:31
didrockscolin "just" has to merge my latest MP13:31
Laneyseb128: I'd rather him than me if you can14:15
Laneystill scared to touch that stuff14:15
Laneywillcooke: it is, I just checked!14:15
seb128Laney, "him" being? Colin?14:15
Laneyya14:15
seb128k14:15
seb128I can try ;-)14:15
Laneyplus he already saw those branches14:15
ochosiLaney: my xps13 arrives in 3+ weeks :'( hope you had more luck14:16
Laneyochosi: it said 3-5 days I think14:16
ochosiyeah, it did say that...14:17
Laneyoh I got a link14:17
ochosibut i looked up my order today, because https://xkcd.com/281/, only to find that it takes until june 2314:18
Laneyoh14:18
LaneyEstimated Delivery Date: 10/06/201514:18
LaneyIn Production14:19
ochosigood, that sounds more reasonable14:19
Laneydo they make these things to order or something?14:19
ochosiyeah14:19
Laneytake it off the shelf14:19
Laneyput it in a box and post it :|14:19
ochosino, i think to order14:19
Laneybah14:19
ochosiwell, tell me how it is when you get it! *drool*14:21
LaneyI heard that the ubuntu that ships on it has a few hardware bugs14:21
Laneyhopefully those have SRUs14:21
Laneybut I'll be going to wily anyway ;-)14:22
ochosihm, i think that's only for 14.0414:22
ochosiwith 15.04, everything should work ootb14:22
Laneyya that's what it comes with14:22
ochosiyeah, which is a bit silly14:22
Laneyit should have a good out of the box experience14:22
ochosibut fine14:22
Laneylts makes sense14:22
ochosiwell if there are no SRUs for 14.04 yet, go make them! :D14:22
Laneythat's part of the reason for choosing a preinstalled model14:23
willcookeLaney, moved our 1:1 on Monday earlier - hope that's ok, got an appointment in the afternoon14:32
willcookeattente, I'll have to move ours too14:32
attentewillcooke: sure14:33
Laneyaye14:33
Laneyhope it's a fun appointment14:34
Laneylike tour of a marshmallow factory with extended tasting session14:34
Laneyor a visit to the world's biggest ball pit14:34
willcookeHospital14:35
willcookebut a good one14:35
willcookeI hope14:35
willcookelast scan before v 2.0 and v 3.0 come out14:35
Laneyneat!14:36
Laneyhope the bedroom(s) is ready14:36
willcookeas ready as it's going to be :)14:40
willcookeI've put all the old computers in a neat pile14:40
willcookebabies love piles of old computers14:40
qenghopitti: Apologies if this is outside your domain. What's the private Jenkins URL in the Jenkins adt status emails I get? Is there something different than one sees via the public URL right above it in the email?15:19
Laneyqengho: It shows results live as opposed to mirrored slightly later on, and it is where core-devs can retry jobs15:20
qenghoThx15:20
Laneyotherwise it's the same results15:20
pittiqengho: not necessarily different, just the public jenkins often is behind15:39
pittiqengho: what Laney said, right15:39
Laneyalso it's where canonical keeps their secret plans to take over the world15:40
qenghoI figured that much. Also, all the tests are secretly failing.15:41
Laneyoops, meant to say that on our internal tor encrypted irc15:41
micahgLaney: did you want to merge tracker again?  Seems to be the last piece for libmediaart transition (1.4.0 is available in Debian), or should I just rebuild?15:45
Laneymicahg: I'm basically doing it now15:45
micahgah, awesome, thanks :)15:45
Laneyexcept I got distracted by trying to push things through proposed-migration15:45
Laneydo you want to do it?15:45
Laney:)15:45
micahgthe merge or the rebuild?15:46
Laneymerge15:46
LaneyI think I'm averse to looking at it in case I find something annoying15:47
* Laney sells it so well15:47
micahghrm, not today, I can rebuild and do the merge next week though15:47
Laneyah, lemme just look quickly now15:48
micahgit looks like there's a bit to do with the changelogs and all15:48
LaneyI don't even remember doing this 1.2.6 merge15:49
Laneydo remember upstreaming those patches though15:49
Laneywah, new build-depends on something in universe15:51
micahgyeah15:59
Laneydisableable15:59
Laneysomeone from Ubuntu GNOME can MIR that if they want it16:00
Laneydarkxst / Noskcaj: ^^^ (libstemmer BD from tracker)16:00
* Laney builds16:05
* Laney loves ../merge-debuild -S (MoM)16:05
* micahg loves ../merge-buildpackage16:06
Laney../merge-sbuild would be good16:08
Laney../do-my-work-please16:08
micahghaha16:10
didrockstime to go, see you next week guys!16:39
chrisccoulsonsigh @ http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8a177d785dd5 (that breaks our packages and localized search overrides)16:53
chrisccoulsonDoes someone on the desktop team want to take over maintaining firefox?16:53
chrisccoulsonPretty please16:53
Sweet5hark1seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/vivid/4.4.3/libreoffice_4.4.3-0ubuntu1_source.changes <- ready for SRU, but lets wait for monday16:54
chrisccoulsonI'll even buy beer16:54
chrisccoulsonwell, for me, maybe16:54
Sweet5hark1(as per no-uploads-and-then-leave-for-weekend-trololo rule)16:54
willcookeright, bugging out16:57
willcookehappy Friday all16:57
Laneymicahg: done17:13
micahgLaney: awesome, thanks17:13
Laneyand I'm done for the day/week too17:13
Laneysee you later17:13
micahghave a good one17:13
Laneyoh I forgot to run the autopkgtest, bah17:14
Laneybet that'll fail now17:14
* Laney tries it really quick17:15
Laneynot that I'm going to fix it now if it fails, you understand17:16
seb128Sweet5hark1, k17:18
Laneywoohoo, passed!17:25
Laneyreally bye now :)17:25
seb128Laney, have a good w.e!17:30
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NoskcajLaney, I'm busy all weekend, so hopefully someone else will take the MIR. If not, i'll make one monday20:18

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