[03:29] Good morning [05:28] good morning! [06:05] good morning [06:18] good morning desktopers [06:18] didrocks, hey there as well ;-) [06:20] re seb128 === hikiko-lpt is now known as hikiko [07:48] hum, having that font corruption issue, needs to restart session, brb [08:00] yoooooo [08:00] hey Laney [08:00] yooooooooo [08:00] how are you? [08:01] pretty good! [08:01] it's raining loads and I am happy because it is going to replenish the water butt [08:01] #middleagedlife [08:02] hi ho [08:02] lol [08:02] hey willcooke [08:02] morning Laney, willcooke [08:04] haha [08:04] hi willcooke [08:04] hey didrocks et larsu und willcooke [08:04] feeling older larsu? [08:04] a bit [08:05] * larsu searches for grey hair [08:06] ha [08:10] thursday has been very frustrating, spent most of the day fighting with stupid devices/boot issues (bricked phone, took me 3 hours to find a way to restore it, snappy refusing to boot on uefi machines which is still not resolved), let's hope today is better [08:10] ugh, sorry man [08:10] though my bq just updated and seems like they routed proposed to the wrong channel [08:10] I got the vivid update but without the bq customizations [08:10] did you notice the launchpad outage yesterday? [08:11] the phone is still working fine, but I want the custom stuff back :p [08:11] not just a bad week for you :) [08:11] yeah [08:11] some of the phone infra was down as well [08:11] which didn't help while I was trying to unbrick things [08:48] oh, robert_ancell uploaded a gst1 patch to pidgin [08:52] saw that [08:52] nice! [08:52] what else was still on gst0.10? [08:52] or was that the last big one? [08:53] that might be it for main [09:04] \o/ [09:31] pitti: do you know about the dbusmock test failure? [09:31] and if the network access issues are being fixed (update-manager)? [09:32] actually, you can do everything *but* "calc" [09:33] Laney: dbusmock> haven't yet looked into it, that was new from yesterday [09:33] Laney: so far I wrote off everything that failed yesterday as "PS4 failure" [09:33] Laney: will have a look ASAP (but piloting right now) [09:33] mmm, it seems to have run correctly and reproes locally [09:34] I'll look for a few minutes but otherwise will leave it to the expert ;-) [09:36] LocationAreaCode = XXX [09:36] Laney: hmm, seems something just changed in ofono-phonesim or ofono itself? [09:36] looks like a trivial fix anyway [09:36] actually, no [09:37] dbusmock/templates/ofono.py: 'LocationAreaCode': _parameters.get('LocationAreaCode', 987), [09:37] 987 is the template's internal default [09:37] so perhaps the XXX is some kind of new obfuscation in ofono? [09:37] yes [09:37] it's in the diff of the latest upload [09:37] * pitti is by far not an ofono expert, sorry [09:40] don't know why they did this - apparently you can just pass --private to get the old behaviour [09:40] probably missing something [09:40] anyway, /me will fix [09:41] Laney: ah, so dbusmock's test should use --private now? that sounds like an ubuntu delta, or is that upstream for a change? [09:41] note that dbusmock is being used in other distros, so we can't rely on ubuntu specific changes [09:41] we can at most relax the test, perhaps check for a thing they didn't obfuscate [09:41] so d-bus reports it correctly, just list-modems doesn't? [09:42] it is merged into something on github [09:42] that's really odd -- these are test scripts, not "production" scripts [09:42] Laney: https://github.com/rilmodem/ofono is "our" branch [09:43] (and the temporary fork has lasted for like 2 years now) [09:45] oh right, sorry, I'm not au fait with this [09:55] pitti: I could try passing --private and then fall back if it doesn't work [09:55] pitti: or just stop checking for these things they obfuscated [09:55] what do you prefer? [09:56] Laney: is there a property that the mock sets which isn't obfuscated? then checking that woudl be best IMHO [09:57] Laney: if there's none, then let's just drop that particular assert [09:57] well, *best* would be to revert that XXX change, these are test scripts for $deity's sake [09:57] if anythign ever uses them in production that should be slapped [09:57] Present or PinRequired [09:57] a program exec'ing a shell program exec'ing dbus-send to do a dbus call is just wrong [09:58] you fancy taking up that argument? :) [09:59] I wish we would have blocked ofono on this, not gobject-introspection [09:59] Laney: I'll file a bug and assign it to Tony [10:00] I guess it got by because we don't test reverse build or test deps [10:00] right [10:04] Laney: filed bug 1459983; for now, I'm happy to ignore the failure for g-i [10:04] bug 1459983 in ofono (Ubuntu) "latest version obfuscates data in test scripts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1459983 [10:04] ok, I'll give you a PR to tweak the test to search for different things [10:04] thanks! [10:06] Laney: cheers! waving through g-i for now [10:06] no need to hold that hostage for this === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:03] Sweet5hark1: since you're here too, would you advise us (xubuntu) to try to get it only into ubuntu then? [12:04] (the LO icon-set) [12:04] ochosi: getting it in upstream is best. [12:48] didrocks, seb128: hey... Do you remember that bug of update manager not being unminizable... And I've shown you a method to reproduce the issue in Bruxelles? I thought I had it written down but it seems I haven't... Do you happen to remember it? [12:48] Trevinho: hum, I remember the bug, I don't remember though the method to reproduce it, sorry :/ [12:49] yeah, I was imaging... I tried :( [12:51] Trevinho, I think you showed something, I didn't memorize the details though :-/ [12:52] yeah, sorry... I was hoping in your super memory. Mine is leaving :°( [12:53] Trevinho: you are younger than us! :) [12:53] Get off our lawn Trevinho [12:53] didrocks: that's true and I've avoided to mention that... As it makes things even more sad :( [12:54] :o [12:54] :D [12:54] Trevinho, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/989588 [12:54] Launchpad bug 989588 in unity (Ubuntu) "update-manager popup is shown on launcher and alt-tab list but window doesn't show up" [High,In progress] [12:54] is that this issue? [12:54] yep [12:55] it seems to happen if the window shows while locked [12:55] mh, I've found a way that involves compiz to be restarted hardly... And that's probably a way. but not THE way I had... [12:55] especially for recovering it [12:56] Trevinho, reading that bug ChrisTownsend has a way as well [12:56] Trevinho, sleep 10; update-manager, lock, wait, unlock [12:56] seb128: yes, but there's another case I found, the fix he proposed doesn't solve the problem... [12:57] hum, k [13:10] didrocks, thanks for livecd uploads btw! [13:11] yw ;) [13:11] next I need to chase cjwatson and Laney for the cdimage/launchpad tweaks right? [13:31] indeed [13:31] I guess Laney shouldn't be that far [13:31] :) [13:31] Laney, is your butt replenished? [13:31] colin "just" has to merge my latest MP [14:15] seb128: I'd rather him than me if you can [14:15] still scared to touch that stuff [14:15] willcooke: it is, I just checked! [14:15] Laney, "him" being? Colin? [14:15] ya [14:15] k [14:15] I can try ;-) [14:15] plus he already saw those branches [14:16] Laney: my xps13 arrives in 3+ weeks :'( hope you had more luck [14:16] ochosi: it said 3-5 days I think [14:17] yeah, it did say that... [14:17] oh I got a link [14:18] but i looked up my order today, because https://xkcd.com/281/, only to find that it takes until june 23 [14:18] oh [14:18] Estimated Delivery Date: 10/06/2015 [14:19] In Production [14:19] good, that sounds more reasonable [14:19] do they make these things to order or something? [14:19] yeah [14:19] take it off the shelf [14:19] put it in a box and post it :| [14:19] no, i think to order [14:19] bah [14:21] well, tell me how it is when you get it! *drool* [14:21] I heard that the ubuntu that ships on it has a few hardware bugs [14:21] hopefully those have SRUs [14:22] but I'll be going to wily anyway ;-) [14:22] hm, i think that's only for 14.04 [14:22] with 15.04, everything should work ootb [14:22] ya that's what it comes with [14:22] yeah, which is a bit silly [14:22] it should have a good out of the box experience [14:22] but fine [14:22] lts makes sense [14:22] well if there are no SRUs for 14.04 yet, go make them! :D [14:23] that's part of the reason for choosing a preinstalled model [14:32] Laney, moved our 1:1 on Monday earlier - hope that's ok, got an appointment in the afternoon [14:32] attente, I'll have to move ours too [14:33] willcooke: sure [14:33] aye [14:34] hope it's a fun appointment [14:34] like tour of a marshmallow factory with extended tasting session [14:34] or a visit to the world's biggest ball pit [14:35] Hospital [14:35] but a good one [14:35] I hope [14:35] last scan before v 2.0 and v 3.0 come out [14:36] neat! [14:36] hope the bedroom(s) is ready [14:40] as ready as it's going to be :) [14:40] I've put all the old computers in a neat pile [14:40] babies love piles of old computers [15:19] pitti: Apologies if this is outside your domain. What's the private Jenkins URL in the Jenkins adt status emails I get? Is there something different than one sees via the public URL right above it in the email? [15:20] qengho: It shows results live as opposed to mirrored slightly later on, and it is where core-devs can retry jobs [15:20] Thx [15:20] otherwise it's the same results [15:39] qengho: not necessarily different, just the public jenkins often is behind [15:39] qengho: what Laney said, right [15:40] also it's where canonical keeps their secret plans to take over the world [15:41] I figured that much. Also, all the tests are secretly failing. [15:41] oops, meant to say that on our internal tor encrypted irc [15:45] Laney: did you want to merge tracker again? Seems to be the last piece for libmediaart transition (1.4.0 is available in Debian), or should I just rebuild? [15:45] micahg: I'm basically doing it now [15:45] ah, awesome, thanks :) [15:45] except I got distracted by trying to push things through proposed-migration [15:45] do you want to do it? [15:45] :) [15:46] the merge or the rebuild? [15:46] merge [15:47] I think I'm averse to looking at it in case I find something annoying [15:47] * Laney sells it so well [15:47] hrm, not today, I can rebuild and do the merge next week though [15:48] ah, lemme just look quickly now [15:48] it looks like there's a bit to do with the changelogs and all [15:49] I don't even remember doing this 1.2.6 merge [15:49] do remember upstreaming those patches though [15:51] wah, new build-depends on something in universe [15:59] yeah [15:59] disableable [16:00] someone from Ubuntu GNOME can MIR that if they want it [16:00] darkxst / Noskcaj: ^^^ (libstemmer BD from tracker) [16:05] * Laney builds [16:05] * Laney loves ../merge-debuild -S (MoM) [16:06] * micahg loves ../merge-buildpackage [16:08] ../merge-sbuild would be good [16:08] ../do-my-work-please [16:10] haha [16:39] time to go, see you next week guys! [16:53] sigh @ http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8a177d785dd5 (that breaks our packages and localized search overrides) [16:53] Does someone on the desktop team want to take over maintaining firefox? [16:53] Pretty please [16:54] seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/vivid/4.4.3/libreoffice_4.4.3-0ubuntu1_source.changes <- ready for SRU, but lets wait for monday [16:54] I'll even buy beer [16:54] well, for me, maybe [16:54] (as per no-uploads-and-then-leave-for-weekend-trololo rule) [16:57] right, bugging out [16:57] happy Friday all [17:13] micahg: done [17:13] Laney: awesome, thanks [17:13] and I'm done for the day/week too [17:13] see you later [17:13] have a good one [17:14] oh I forgot to run the autopkgtest, bah [17:14] bet that'll fail now [17:15] * Laney tries it really quick [17:16] not that I'm going to fix it now if it fails, you understand [17:18] Sweet5hark1, k [17:25] woohoo, passed! [17:25] really bye now :) [17:30] Laney, have a good w.e! === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_hols [20:18] Laney, I'm busy all weekend, so hopefully someone else will take the MIR. If not, i'll make one monday