[03:29] <pitti> Good morning
[05:28] <larsu> good morning!
[06:05] <didrocks> good morning
[06:18] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[06:18] <seb128> didrocks, hey there as well ;-)
[06:20] <didrocks> re seb128
[07:48] <seb128> hum, having that font corruption issue, needs to restart session, brb
[08:00] <Laney> yoooooo
[08:00] <seb128> hey Laney
[08:00] <larsu> yooooooooo
[08:00] <seb128> how are you?
[08:01] <Laney> pretty good!
[08:01] <Laney> it's raining loads and I am happy because it is going to replenish the water butt
[08:01] <Laney> #middleagedlife
[08:02] <willcooke> hi ho
[08:02] <seb128> lol
[08:02] <seb128> hey willcooke
[08:02] <didrocks> morning Laney, willcooke
[08:04] <larsu> haha
[08:04] <larsu> hi willcooke
[08:04] <Laney> hey didrocks et larsu und willcooke
[08:04] <Laney> feeling older larsu?
[08:04] <larsu> a bit
[08:05]  * larsu searches for grey hair
[08:06] <Laney> ha
[08:10] <seb128> thursday has been very frustrating, spent most of the day fighting with stupid devices/boot issues (bricked phone, took me 3 hours to find a way to restore it, snappy refusing to boot on uefi machines which is still not resolved), let's hope today is better
[08:10] <larsu> ugh, sorry man
[08:10] <seb128> though my bq just updated and seems like they routed proposed to the wrong channel
[08:10] <seb128> I got the vivid update but without the bq customizations
[08:10] <Laney> did you notice the launchpad outage yesterday?
[08:11] <seb128> the phone is still working fine, but I want the custom stuff back :p
[08:11] <Laney> not just a bad week for you :)
[08:11] <seb128> yeah
[08:11] <seb128> some of the phone infra was down as well
[08:11] <seb128> which didn't help while I was trying to unbrick things
[08:48] <Laney> oh, robert_ancell uploaded a gst1 patch to pidgin
[08:52] <seb128> saw that
[08:52] <seb128> nice!
[08:52] <seb128> what else was still on gst0.10?
[08:52] <seb128> or was that the last big one?
[08:53] <Laney> that might be it for main
[09:04] <seb128> \o/
[09:31] <Laney> pitti: do you know about the dbusmock test failure?
[09:31] <Laney> and if the network access issues are being fixed (update-manager)?
[09:32] <larsu> actually, you can do everything *but* "calc"
[09:33] <pitti> Laney: dbusmock> haven't yet looked into it, that was new from yesterday
[09:33] <pitti> Laney: so far I wrote off everything that failed yesterday as "PS4 failure"
[09:33] <pitti> Laney: will have a look ASAP (but piloting right now)
[09:33] <Laney> mmm, it seems to have run correctly and reproes locally
[09:34] <Laney> I'll look for a few minutes but otherwise will leave it to the expert ;-)
[09:36] <pitti> LocationAreaCode = XXX
[09:36] <pitti> Laney: hmm, seems something just changed in ofono-phonesim or ofono itself?
[09:36] <pitti> looks like a trivial fix anyway
[09:36] <pitti> actually, no
[09:37] <pitti> dbusmock/templates/ofono.py:        'LocationAreaCode': _parameters.get('LocationAreaCode', 987),
[09:37] <pitti> 987 is the template's internal default
[09:37] <pitti> so perhaps the XXX is some kind of new obfuscation in ofono?
[09:37] <Laney> yes
[09:37] <Laney> it's in the diff of the latest upload
[09:37]  * pitti is by far not an ofono expert, sorry
[09:40] <Laney> don't know why they did this - apparently you can just pass --private to get the old behaviour
[09:40] <Laney> probably missing something
[09:40] <Laney> anyway, /me will fix
[09:41] <pitti> Laney: ah, so dbusmock's test should use --private now? that sounds like an ubuntu delta, or is that upstream for a change?
[09:41] <pitti> note that dbusmock is being used in other distros, so we can't rely on ubuntu specific changes
[09:41] <pitti> we can at most relax the test, perhaps check for a thing they didn't obfuscate
[09:41] <pitti> so d-bus reports it correctly, just list-modems doesn't?
[09:42] <Laney> it is merged into something on github
[09:42] <pitti> that's really odd -- these are test scripts, not "production" scripts
[09:42] <pitti> Laney: https://github.com/rilmodem/ofono is "our" branch
[09:43] <pitti> (and the temporary fork has lasted for like 2 years now)
[09:45] <Laney> oh right, sorry, I'm not au fait with this
[09:55] <Laney> pitti: I could try passing --private and then fall back if it doesn't work
[09:55] <Laney> pitti: or just stop checking for these things they obfuscated
[09:55] <Laney> what do you prefer?
[09:56] <pitti> Laney: is there a property that the mock sets which isn't obfuscated? then checking that woudl be best IMHO
[09:57] <pitti> Laney: if there's none, then let's just drop that particular assert
[09:57] <pitti> well, *best* would be to revert that XXX change, these are test scripts for $deity's sake
[09:57] <pitti> if anythign ever uses them in production that should be slapped
[09:57] <Laney> Present or PinRequired
[09:57] <pitti> a program exec'ing a shell program exec'ing dbus-send to do a dbus call is just wrong
[09:58] <Laney> you fancy taking up that argument? :)
[09:59] <pitti> I wish we would have blocked ofono on this, not gobject-introspection
[09:59] <pitti> Laney: I'll file a bug and assign it to Tony
[10:00] <Laney> I guess it got by because we don't test reverse build or test deps
[10:00] <pitti> right
[10:04] <pitti> Laney: filed bug 1459983; for now, I'm happy to ignore the failure for g-i
[10:04] <Laney> ok, I'll give you a PR to tweak the test to search for different things
[10:04] <Laney> thanks!
[10:06] <pitti> Laney: cheers! waving through g-i for now
[10:06] <pitti> no need to hold that hostage for this
[12:03] <ochosi> Sweet5hark1: since you're here too, would you advise us (xubuntu) to try to get it only into ubuntu then?
[12:04] <ochosi> (the LO icon-set)
[12:04] <Sweet5hark1> ochosi: getting it in upstream is best.
[12:48] <Trevinho> didrocks, seb128: hey... Do you remember that bug of update manager not being unminizable... And I've shown you a method to reproduce the issue in Bruxelles? I thought I had it written down but it seems I haven't... Do you happen to remember it?
[12:48] <didrocks> Trevinho: hum, I remember the bug, I don't remember though the method to reproduce it, sorry :/
[12:49] <Trevinho> yeah, I was imaging... I tried :(
[12:51] <seb128> Trevinho, I think you showed something, I didn't memorize the details though :-/
[12:52] <Trevinho> yeah, sorry... I was hoping in your super memory. Mine is leaving :°(
[12:53] <didrocks> Trevinho: you are younger than us! :)
[12:53] <willcooke> Get off our lawn Trevinho
[12:53] <Trevinho> didrocks: that's true and I've avoided to mention that... As it makes things even more sad :(
[12:54] <Trevinho> :o
[12:54] <willcooke> :D
[12:54] <seb128> Trevinho, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/989588
[12:54] <seb128> is that this issue?
[12:54] <Trevinho> yep
[12:55] <seb128> it seems to happen if the window shows while locked
[12:55] <Trevinho> mh, I've found a way that involves compiz to be restarted hardly... And that's probably a way. but not THE way I had...
[12:55] <Trevinho> especially for recovering it
[12:56] <seb128> Trevinho, reading that bug ChrisTownsend has a way as well
[12:56] <seb128> Trevinho, sleep 10; update-manager, lock, wait, unlock
[12:56] <Trevinho> seb128: yes, but there's another case I found, the fix he proposed doesn't solve the problem...
[12:57] <seb128> hum, k
[13:10] <seb128> didrocks, thanks for livecd uploads btw!
[13:11] <didrocks> yw ;)
[13:11] <seb128> next I need to chase cjwatson and Laney for the cdimage/launchpad tweaks right?
[13:31] <didrocks> indeed
[13:31] <didrocks> I guess Laney shouldn't be that far
[13:31] <didrocks> :)
[13:31] <willcooke> Laney, is your butt replenished?
[13:31] <didrocks> colin "just" has to merge my latest MP
[14:15] <Laney> seb128: I'd rather him than me if you can
[14:15] <Laney> still scared to touch that stuff
[14:15] <Laney> willcooke: it is, I just checked!
[14:15] <seb128> Laney, "him" being? Colin?
[14:15] <Laney> ya
[14:15] <seb128> k
[14:15] <seb128> I can try ;-)
[14:15] <Laney> plus he already saw those branches
[14:16] <ochosi> Laney: my xps13 arrives in 3+ weeks :'( hope you had more luck
[14:16] <Laney> ochosi: it said 3-5 days I think
[14:17] <ochosi> yeah, it did say that...
[14:17] <Laney> oh I got a link
[14:18] <ochosi> but i looked up my order today, because https://xkcd.com/281/, only to find that it takes until june 23
[14:18] <Laney> oh
[14:18] <Laney> Estimated Delivery Date: 10/06/2015
[14:19] <Laney> In Production
[14:19] <ochosi> good, that sounds more reasonable
[14:19] <Laney> do they make these things to order or something?
[14:19] <ochosi> yeah
[14:19] <Laney> take it off the shelf
[14:19] <Laney> put it in a box and post it :|
[14:19] <ochosi> no, i think to order
[14:19] <Laney> bah
[14:21] <ochosi> well, tell me how it is when you get it! *drool*
[14:21] <Laney> I heard that the ubuntu that ships on it has a few hardware bugs
[14:21] <Laney> hopefully those have SRUs
[14:22] <Laney> but I'll be going to wily anyway ;-)
[14:22] <ochosi> hm, i think that's only for 14.04
[14:22] <ochosi> with 15.04, everything should work ootb
[14:22] <Laney> ya that's what it comes with
[14:22] <ochosi> yeah, which is a bit silly
[14:22] <Laney> it should have a good out of the box experience
[14:22] <ochosi> but fine
[14:22] <Laney> lts makes sense
[14:22] <ochosi> well if there are no SRUs for 14.04 yet, go make them! :D
[14:23] <Laney> that's part of the reason for choosing a preinstalled model
[14:32] <willcooke> Laney, moved our 1:1 on Monday earlier - hope that's ok, got an appointment in the afternoon
[14:32] <willcooke> attente, I'll have to move ours too
[14:33] <attente> willcooke: sure
[14:33] <Laney> aye
[14:34] <Laney> hope it's a fun appointment
[14:34] <Laney> like tour of a marshmallow factory with extended tasting session
[14:34] <Laney> or a visit to the world's biggest ball pit
[14:35] <willcooke> Hospital
[14:35] <willcooke> but a good one
[14:35] <willcooke> I hope
[14:35] <willcooke> last scan before v 2.0 and v 3.0 come out
[14:36] <Laney> neat!
[14:36] <Laney> hope the bedroom(s) is ready
[14:40] <willcooke> as ready as it's going to be :)
[14:40] <willcooke> I've put all the old computers in a neat pile
[14:40] <willcooke> babies love piles of old computers
[15:19] <qengho> pitti: Apologies if this is outside your domain. What's the private Jenkins URL in the Jenkins adt status emails I get? Is there something different than one sees via the public URL right above it in the email?
[15:20] <Laney> qengho: It shows results live as opposed to mirrored slightly later on, and it is where core-devs can retry jobs
[15:20] <qengho> Thx
[15:20] <Laney> otherwise it's the same results
[15:39] <pitti> qengho: not necessarily different, just the public jenkins often is behind
[15:39] <pitti> qengho: what Laney said, right
[15:40] <Laney> also it's where canonical keeps their secret plans to take over the world
[15:41] <qengho> I figured that much. Also, all the tests are secretly failing.
[15:41] <Laney> oops, meant to say that on our internal tor encrypted irc
[15:45] <micahg> Laney: did you want to merge tracker again?  Seems to be the last piece for libmediaart transition (1.4.0 is available in Debian), or should I just rebuild?
[15:45] <Laney> micahg: I'm basically doing it now
[15:45] <micahg> ah, awesome, thanks :)
[15:45] <Laney> except I got distracted by trying to push things through proposed-migration
[15:45] <Laney> do you want to do it?
[15:45] <Laney> :)
[15:46] <micahg> the merge or the rebuild?
[15:46] <Laney> merge
[15:47] <Laney> I think I'm averse to looking at it in case I find something annoying
[15:47]  * Laney sells it so well
[15:47] <micahg> hrm, not today, I can rebuild and do the merge next week though
[15:48] <Laney> ah, lemme just look quickly now
[15:48] <micahg> it looks like there's a bit to do with the changelogs and all
[15:49] <Laney> I don't even remember doing this 1.2.6 merge
[15:49] <Laney> do remember upstreaming those patches though
[15:51] <Laney> wah, new build-depends on something in universe
[15:59] <micahg> yeah
[15:59] <Laney> disableable
[16:00] <Laney> someone from Ubuntu GNOME can MIR that if they want it
[16:00] <Laney> darkxst / Noskcaj: ^^^ (libstemmer BD from tracker)
[16:05]  * Laney builds
[16:05]  * Laney loves ../merge-debuild -S (MoM)
[16:06]  * micahg loves ../merge-buildpackage
[16:08] <Laney> ../merge-sbuild would be good
[16:08] <Laney> ../do-my-work-please
[16:10] <micahg> haha
[16:39] <didrocks> time to go, see you next week guys!
[16:53] <chrisccoulson> sigh @ http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/8a177d785dd5 (that breaks our packages and localized search overrides)
[16:53] <chrisccoulson> Does someone on the desktop team want to take over maintaining firefox?
[16:53] <chrisccoulson> Pretty please
[16:54] <Sweet5hark1> seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/vivid/4.4.3/libreoffice_4.4.3-0ubuntu1_source.changes <- ready for SRU, but lets wait for monday
[16:54] <chrisccoulson> I'll even buy beer
[16:54] <chrisccoulson> well, for me, maybe
[16:54] <Sweet5hark1> (as per no-uploads-and-then-leave-for-weekend-trololo rule)
[16:57] <willcooke> right, bugging out
[16:57] <willcooke> happy Friday all
[17:13] <Laney> micahg: done
[17:13] <micahg> Laney: awesome, thanks
[17:13] <Laney> and I'm done for the day/week too
[17:13] <Laney> see you later
[17:13] <micahg> have a good one
[17:14] <Laney> oh I forgot to run the autopkgtest, bah
[17:14] <Laney> bet that'll fail now
[17:15]  * Laney tries it really quick
[17:16] <Laney> not that I'm going to fix it now if it fails, you understand
[17:18] <seb128> Sweet5hark1, k
[17:25] <Laney> woohoo, passed!
[17:25] <Laney> really bye now :)
[17:30] <seb128> Laney, have a good w.e!
[20:18] <Noskcaj> Laney, I'm busy all weekend, so hopefully someone else will take the MIR. If not, i'll make one monday