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cwayne_mariogrip, any luck with ofono? got lollipop on my opo and it suuuuuucks :)00:59
liuxg__how to make a button disabled (grey) in QML?02:20
cwayneliuxg_, isn't it just enabled : false02:55
liuxg_cwayne, yes, you are right. Just now, i tried "enable". thanks02:57
liuxg_cwayne, it is not so visible to developers since we did not use the same one from the Qt standard control. On our d.u.c, I cannot find it02:59
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sturmflut2good morning06:23
dholbachgood morning07:23
Mister_Qgood morning dholbach07:27
dholbachhi Mister_Q07:28
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Friday, and happy Learn About Composting Day! 😃08:40
sturmflut2JamesTait: It took me longer to realise than I'm willing to admit that you didn't write "Learn About Compositing" and this had nothing to do with Unity or Mir08:44
popeyhah08:46
JamesTaitsturmflut2, that's also a good cause. Probably.08:46
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dholbachoh god... it's quite noticeable the coffee machine is broken in the office again09:26
dholbach"Where to app development discussion"09:26
* dholbach hangs his head in shame09:26
* ogra_ slurps his hot steaming americano and waits for the video feed url :P09:27
dholbachbrendand, do you know if fgimenez and elopio got anywhere with the selenium upload? I think the question now was to figure out if the firefox webdriver was still needed or if it was a minority who could still install a potential non-free package later on09:43
dholbachhum... not sure if you saw my earlier message09:45
dholbachbrendand, do you know if fgimenez and elopio got anywhere with the selenium upload? I think the question now was to figure out if the firefox webdriver was still needed or if it was a minority who could still install a potential non-free package later on09:45
dholbach:)09:45
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brendanddholbach, i asked fgimenez, i'm not really in the loop on that. it seems to be getting handled as a side task in our team09:46
dholbachok09:47
dholbachit'd be good if we could land this in the archive, so we don't have to depend on external ppas all the time09:47
dholbachand if it takes longer to get it into Debian, we should still be able to get it into wily09:48
dholbachbut right... I'll wait for fgimenez and elopio09:48
fgimenezhi dholbach sorry but I didn't ask elopio yesterday about selenium, pinging him now09:52
dholbach<309:52
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popeydavmor2: you seeing this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scope-click/+bug/146004912:29
ubot5Launchpad bug 1460049 in unity-scope-click (Ubuntu) "Text doesn't wrap in click info" [Undecided,New]12:29
seb128popey, what device/channel are you on?12:33
seb128popey, I don't see that on the vivid ota candidate image on my bq, tried on e.G 204812:34
popeyarale12:34
popeyimage 6 ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/meizu.en12:34
ogra_just use proper grid units :P12:35
seb128popey, that's based on vivid overlay right?12:38
seb128should be the same as the bq one I've atm12:38
popeyi have no idea12:38
* popey tries on a bq12:38
popeyhttp://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-05-29-133924.png12:39
popeyseems okay on my krillin12:39
sturmflut2Notice the "popey tries on A bq"12:39
sturmflut2Implying that he's got more than one12:39
popeyhah12:39
popeytwo12:39
sturmflut2Including the secret E5?12:40
popeyI don't know what you're talking about.12:40
popeyI have two E4.5's12:40
popeyone of the old white android ones (owned by the company) and a black one I bought myself12:40
sturmflut2...so two bq's excluding the secret E5.12:40
popeyI like testing / comparing latest bleeding edge with the retail experience our users get12:40
popeyExcluding the rumoured E5, yes.12:41
popeyprobably will get one if they become available at some point though12:41
popeyI still can't get over how well neverball runs on the bq12:42
sturmflut2We know that you already have the MX5, the E7, the secret US phone and the top-secret phone from Antarctica, popey. No point in denying it.12:43
popeyhaha12:44
popeyI wish12:44
* popey looks at his box'o'phones12:44
sturmflut2I can already see Softpedia's headline from tomorrow: "Canonical to reveal a top-secret Antarctica phone"12:45
sturmflut2"contains actual penguins"12:46
didrocksI would say popey has the one from Atlantis too :)12:49
sturmflut2didrocks: Exactly, thanks for the reminder12:49
didrocksyw! ;)12:49
popeyWhen I was younger (and thinner) people said I looked like "The Man From Atlantis" -> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075533/12:50
sturmflut2Softpedia: "Canonical employee rumored to come from Atlantis, owns secret smartphone technology"12:52
Elleowaterproof ubuntu phones12:52
cwayneoh come one, it'd be phronix "canonical employee lives underwater WHY DO THEY HATE AIR SO MUCH"12:54
sturmflut2Sad, but true12:55
Elleoheh12:55
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popeyhah12:58
sturmflut2https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.developer.robert-ancell.mines Woohoo! Another entry on my wishlist goes away!13:14
popeyhah13:14
cwayneoh man, Automatic has a rest api13:15
cwayneguess I know what I'll be doing in my free time13:15
popeyi pointed robert at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/ and seems he picked mines first :)13:15
popeycwayne: automatic?13:15
cwaynepopey, https://www.automatic.com/13:16
popeyheh13:16
jgdxwhat's that apt syntax that let's you pin two or more packages to a given version?13:19
jgdxapt-get install {a b}=1337.0 dothnth work13:19
jgdxkenvandine, you're all knowing ^13:20
jgdxaah, it's apt-get install {a,b}=133713:24
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elopiohello13:28
elopiodholbach: fgimenez: brendand: if we upload the selenium version that federico prepared, that will break tests for people running in old firefox versions.13:30
oSoMoNjgdx, can you elaborate on bug #1459404 ?13:30
ubot5bug 1459404 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "gmail webapp goes blank quite often" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145940413:30
elopioI doubt there's many people doing that: running an old selenium version and an old firefox version13:30
dholbachelopio, if we upload it to wily?13:31
elopiobut still, the correct solution would be to upload also the package with the binaries. So for those that will break, we offer a solution.13:31
elopioif we don't care about supporting tests on the old firefox version, which makes sense, then we can just upload it now.13:32
kenvandinejgdx, missing comma13:32
elopioI haven't been able to test it extensively in firefox though.13:32
kenvandinejgdx, ah... you figured it out13:32
jgdxoSoMoN, thanks for looking at it. Seems the user added two google accounts using the same gmail address13:34
jgdxoSoMoN, fixed by nuking both and re-adding it13:34
oSoMoNjgdx, ok, can you mark the bug invalid then?13:34
jgdxyup13:34
elopiodholbach: fgimenez: some more info: with the current selenium version in the archive, firefox tests don't work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11432933/13:47
elopiowith the version from the PPA, they don't work either of course: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11432956/13:48
elopioto make them work, people have to install the marionette python client, for which we don't have a package: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Automated_testing/Setting_up_Marionette13:48
dholbachelopio, with 2.44 in the qa ppa the test proposed in https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/help-app/functional-test-template worked for me13:49
dholbachfgimenez suggested 2.45 in debian13:50
dholbachI could build and try that locally too13:50
dholbachand see if balloons' test from above still works13:50
dholbachlet me try13:50
elopiodholbach: with firefox or oxide?13:50
dholbachelopio, sorry............. ignore me13:51
dholbachit's very close to the weekend already13:51
dholbachO:-)13:51
dholbachoxide of course13:51
elopiodholbach: :)13:51
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seb128jgdx, kenvandine, I didn't quite understand what you were saying in the hangout/didn't pay enough attention, the test failures on e.g lp:~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/fix-1441192 are due to buggy changes or do we have flacky tests again there?14:23
jgdxseb128, it's on my list of ap test failures to fix14:24
seb128like some datetime and search tests are listed so I doubt it's all coming from the changes14:24
jgdxseb128, maybe the branch, not sure yet14:24
jgdxseb128, wth is up with that datetime test.. been flaky like forever14:24
jgdxI've run it successfully 200 times locally14:25
jgdx(forgot i had it running :p)14:25
kenvandinejgdx, i recently fixed the flakyness in datetime14:25
seb128kenvandine, did that land in trunk?14:25
kenvandineseb128, yes14:26
seb128so why is that still an issue?14:26
seb128I guess different problem?14:26
kenvandineseb128, gotta be different14:26
seb128or jgdx didn't rebase on trunk since that got fixed?14:26
kenvandineit was reliable after my fix14:26
jgdxwhen?14:27
seb128your fix was to not call a test from another one right?14:27
seb128jgdx, kenvandine, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~system-settings-touch/ubuntu-system-settings/trunk/revision/139414:27
seb1282015-04-2214:28
jgdxseb128, thanks, I def rebased after that14:28
seb128yeah, your branch has that14:29
seb128different issue then I guess :-/14:29
seb128hate those flacky tests14:29
jgdxonly on mako14:29
seb128I don't have a mako to try :-(14:29
jgdxlocally that specific test passes individually and in sequence14:29
jgdxmy device is on its way to do some tests, so I am taking a closer look14:30
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yaccAnyone got an idea how to access the google contacts from evolution? (The 14.04LTS version seems to use a deprectated method that stopped working for me today)14:48
faenilwhere are unity8 debug info packages?14:50
faenilcan't find any14:50
ogra_yacc, you might want to ask in #ubuntu ... this is the pphone channel ...14:51
ogra_*phone14:51
john-mcaleelybfiller, can I ask you to look at this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dialer-app/+bug/146011115:03
ubot5Launchpad bug 1460111 in dialer-app "dual sim handset cannot select default sim" [Undecided,New]15:03
john-mcaleelyit appears to block device tarball testing for ota4 for krillin15:03
john-mcaleelyI can't get telephony to work :-/15:03
TenLeftFingersInstalling an app (Neverball) is at 167%. What do I file the bug against?15:05
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ogra_TenLeftFingers, ubuntu-download-manager ... or just hunt down mandel :)15:09
TenLeftFingersogra_: thanks. I'll camp out here for a while in case they show up :)15:10
TenLeftFingersmandel: ping!15:10
dednicksil2100: ping15:16
sturmflut2TenLeftFingers: I think I remember a bug report for this one15:33
TenLeftFingerssturmflut2: I'll take another look15:34
sturmflut2https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image/+bug/145654215:34
ubot5Launchpad bug 1456542 in Ubuntu system image "Updates from Ubuntu Store sometimes 'downloading 200%'" [Medium,Triaged]15:34
TenLeftFingersthanks sturmflut2, I'll 'me too' it.15:38
sturmflut2yw15:39
popeymaybe you should /9815:39
popeybah15:39
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TenLeftFingershehe, what was that attempt popey ?15:42
popeyit was half a comment in another channel15:42
TenLeftFingersah15:42
popeythen me trying to switch windows15:42
bfillerjohn-mcaleely: ok15:47
john-mcaleelythanks!15:51
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norbsHi there! I have a question about reporting a specific bug on touch. This is the right place to ask?17:59
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rsalvetinorbs: yup, just ask18:01
norbsSometimes I have to press the physical button multiple on the side of the device to unlock the screen. It's a BQ phone. Did somebody already report this before?18:04
norbsIf not I need to file a bug for this but I don't know for which package I start.18:05
norbs*I have to press multiple times18:05
rsalvetinorbs: like it it only shows the screen after pressing it twice and it then blanks the screen again?18:09
ogra_norbs, the greeter is unity8 ... screen management is powerd18:09
rsalvetinorbs: and then it works after the third time you press it18:09
rsalvetiif that, we do have a bug, just don't know the number =\18:09
* ogra_ remembers a bug we had where waking up the screen took long when your wallpaper was very high res.18:10
norbsYes. That is my case rsalveti. Sometimes I have to press it twice and it appears after the third press and then blanks.18:10
norbsMy wallpaper is the default one.18:13
norbsSo I search unity8 first. That's a clue. Thanks!18:13
SturmFlutSomeone built a "Snake" game, but it's a Snappy package and runs in a webbrowser :/18:40
ogra_heh18:40
* ogra_ installs18:40
* svij installs too18:41
ogra_hmm, what port does it run on ... my webdm version doesnt show the description18:42
SturmFlutogra_: 999918:42
ogra_hmmm, connection refused18:43
ogra_oh, heh18:43
SturmFlutAt least it says port 9999 in the description18:43
ogra_because it runs in kvm ... i need to restart the vm and forward the port18:43
norbsI have reported the resume-related bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/146018019:00
ubot5Launchpad bug 1460180 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Pressing the power button once will not resume the phone" [Undecided,New]19:00
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studio_hi20:35
studio_are there some news about the m3u and mirscreencast?20:37
taiebot\o/ 100Mb of update for willy let see if it boots20:48
taiebotYeah success here on mako..20:48
studio_is there a q/a for the ubuntu phone on an "official" site?20:53
taiebotnice update of the browser app on willy. Private mode + selection of the search engine. :-D21:00
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studio_guys, come on, no news about m3u and mirscreencast?21:38
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Guest9122Vito21:49
Guest9122Hello. How can i install Ubuntu Phone to my Lenovo a706 ?21:49
k1l_studio_: was some news announced?21:51
studio_k1l_, sure, as i was reading for support for m3u, wasn't it?21:53
k1l_studio_: "Among the work further out for over the summer to Ubuntu Phone are plans for supporting .M3U files, media hub playlist support, USB tethering and hotsupport support, BlueZ 5 Linux Bluetooth support, NFC support, ...." is what i found21:58
k1l_so there is no "its here now" how i read that21:58
studio_the problem is, what does m3u means? only local files?21:59
k1l_i would say its about streaming from websites. but i am not involved in the ubuntu development22:00
Elleostudio_: media hub can already play http streams, so once m3u parsing is implemented http streams should work fine22:00
studio_therefore i asked22:00
Elleostudio_: I've actually got a half finished app that parses m3u lists itself and then passes the resulting stream to media-hub which works fine22:01
studio_Elleo, only http files?22:01
ElleoI don't know if any other network transports are supported as I haven't tried them22:01
Elleoand its not limited to files, it can be constant streams22:02
Elleo(e.g. shoutcast/icecast)22:02
studio_Elleo, i like to try, what version, 15.10?22:02
Elleostudio_: http streams are supported in RTM already22:03
studio_Elleo, i need rtmp, rtmps, rtp, rtps, mms and so on ...22:04
Elleono idea, if they're supported; you could try them and find out by just passing the stream url to a MediaPlayer QML element though22:05
studio_Elleo, before i flash my phone again on ut, can the emu handle maybe the same?22:06
Elleoalmost certainly, it's a matter of whether media-hub supports it which is a purely software matter22:07
studio_so, on https://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/ubuntu/ x86 is doing on my pc the same as krillin on my phone?22:10
studio_how nice, there is an arale-image ;)22:13
studio_Elleo, just for example, if the new image can handel m3u/m3u8 via http, rtp, rtps rtmp, rtmps, mms and so on, what about "mirscreencast" and http?22:18
ElleoI have no idea about mirscreencast22:23
nik90Elleo: Does media-hub have trouble playing m4a files? Here is a bug report where looking at the logs, it looks like it couldn't play it.22:26
nik90more specifically the error message is Failed to start playback:  org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.22:26
nik90which is strange since it is local file,22:27
nik90Setting media to:   QUrl( "file:///home/phablet/.local/share/com.mikeasoft.podbird/podcasts/lnp140-hoch-die-internationale-spionageaktivitaet.m4a" )22:27
Elleonik90: it vaguely rings a bell that there might have been some m4a issue22:27
Elleonik90: I think it was with specific m4a files that had jpeg images encoded in them (e.g. for cover art)22:28
Elleonik90: will see if I can find the bug22:28
Elleonik90:22:28
Elleonik90: https://bugs.launchpad.net/media-hub/+bug/140868122:28
ubot5Launchpad bug 1408681 in Media Hub "Certain m4a files with an embedded cover art jpeg stream are not playable" [High,Triaged]22:28
nik90Elleo: ah yes that could be it. I will update the podbird bug report with the necessary info. thnx22:30
Elleono problem :)22:30
studio_Elleo, whois taking resposibilidad about mirsreencast here?22:32
studio_mirs"c"reencast22:34
Elleostudio_: I don't know anything about mirscreencast I'm afraid22:35
studio_Elleo, you never tried to record or forward your desktop via mirscreencast?22:41
nik90studio_: It has been a pipe dream of mine to record the phone for demo purposes to my desktop. Unfortunately it hasn't been so straight forward. That said my guess would be that the mir team handles mirscreencast.22:42
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studio_nik90, popey an other made youtube videos with that22:44
studio_i do not like to use nc, i prefer cvlc22:45
Mister_Qhttp://www.kryogenix.org/days/2015/01/21/live-screencasting-from-ubuntu-phone/22:45
nik90studio_: I know and I have also seen others blog about it, but personally I haven't much success with it.the framerate was low during my testing and also the file size was rather huge22:45
nik90Mister_Q: I was actually referring to that blog post ;)22:45
Mister_Qnik90: haha okay :D22:45
studio_nik90, what was your command via cvlc to stream the desktop in the local network?22:46
nik90studio_: I followed the commands mentioned in http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2015/01/21/live-screencasting-from-ubuntu-phone/ .. it was quite a long time ago, dont remember the exact details22:47
nik90also somehow my video color was skewed to a purplish tone22:48
studio_no, this is "nc" but not "cvlc"22:48
nik90studio_: Yeah I know and that's what I tried..I am a beginner to the terms "nc" and "cvlc" ;)22:48
nik90studio_: I think the low framerate issue was to compensate for the wireless transfer of data...if you figure how to stream via usb, do let me know with a nice blog post22:49
studio_cvlc, also vlc-player can handle raw videos an images, so how to forward the "desktop"? same problem is with the cam, what is known, there is no 4vl-driver for it22:50
studio_v4l-friver22:51
studio_driver, damn22:51
nik90ah ok22:51
studio_maybe i am "old school", but, i do not understand, there is an refer -phone -pcb, and nobody cares about it?22:57
studio_do "we" have to make reverse engineering for that?22:58
studio_did anybody here disassembled his bq e4.5?23:04
Mister_Qnope23:09

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