[00:59] <cwayne_> mariogrip, any luck with ofono? got lollipop on my opo and it suuuuuucks :)
[02:20] <liuxg__> how to make a button disabled (grey) in QML?
[02:55] <cwayne> liuxg_, isn't it just enabled : false
[02:57] <liuxg_> cwayne, yes, you are right. Just now, i tried "enable". thanks
[02:59] <liuxg_> cwayne, it is not so visible to developers since we did not use the same one from the Qt standard control. On our d.u.c, I cannot find it
[06:23] <sturmflut2> good morning
[07:23] <dholbach> good morning
[07:27] <Mister_Q> good morning dholbach
[07:28] <dholbach> hi Mister_Q
[08:40] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Learn About Composting Day! 😃
[08:44] <sturmflut2> JamesTait: It took me longer to realise than I'm willing to admit that you didn't write "Learn About Compositing" and this had nothing to do with Unity or Mir
[08:46] <popey> hah
[08:46] <JamesTait> sturmflut2, that's also a good cause. Probably.
[09:26] <dholbach> oh god... it's quite noticeable the coffee machine is broken in the office again
[09:26] <dholbach> "Where to app development discussion"
[09:26]  * dholbach hangs his head in shame
[09:27]  * ogra_ slurps his hot steaming americano and waits for the video feed url :P
[09:43] <dholbach> brendand, do you know if fgimenez and elopio got anywhere with the selenium upload? I think the question now was to figure out if the firefox webdriver was still needed or if it was a minority who could still install a potential non-free package later on
[09:45] <dholbach> hum... not sure if you saw my earlier message
[09:45] <dholbach> brendand, do you know if fgimenez and elopio got anywhere with the selenium upload? I think the question now was to figure out if the firefox webdriver was still needed or if it was a minority who could still install a potential non-free package later on
[09:45] <dholbach> :)
[09:46] <brendand> dholbach, i asked fgimenez, i'm not really in the loop on that. it seems to be getting handled as a side task in our team
[09:47] <dholbach> ok
[09:47] <dholbach> it'd be good if we could land this in the archive, so we don't have to depend on external ppas all the time
[09:48] <dholbach> and if it takes longer to get it into Debian, we should still be able to get it into wily
[09:48] <dholbach> but right... I'll wait for fgimenez and elopio
[09:52] <fgimenez> hi dholbach sorry but I didn't ask elopio yesterday about selenium, pinging him now
[09:52] <dholbach> <3
[12:29] <popey> davmor2: you seeing this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scope-click/+bug/1460049
[12:33] <seb128> popey, what device/channel are you on?
[12:34] <seb128> popey, I don't see that on the vivid ota candidate image on my bq, tried on e.G 2048
[12:34] <popey> arale
[12:34] <popey> image 6 ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/meizu.en
[12:35] <ogra_> just use proper grid units :P
[12:38] <seb128> popey, that's based on vivid overlay right?
[12:38] <seb128> should be the same as the bq one I've atm
[12:38] <popey> i have no idea
[12:38]  * popey tries on a bq
[12:39] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-05-29-133924.png
[12:39] <popey> seems okay on my krillin
[12:39] <sturmflut2> Notice the "popey tries on A bq"
[12:39] <sturmflut2> Implying that he's got more than one
[12:39] <popey> hah
[12:39] <popey> two
[12:40] <sturmflut2> Including the secret E5?
[12:40] <popey> I don't know what you're talking about.
[12:40] <popey> I have two E4.5's
[12:40] <popey> one of the old white android ones (owned by the company) and a black one I bought myself
[12:40] <sturmflut2> ...so two bq's excluding the secret E5.
[12:40] <popey> I like testing / comparing latest bleeding edge with the retail experience our users get
[12:41] <popey> Excluding the rumoured E5, yes.
[12:41] <popey> probably will get one if they become available at some point though
[12:42] <popey> I still can't get over how well neverball runs on the bq
[12:43] <sturmflut2> We know that you already have the MX5, the E7, the secret US phone and the top-secret phone from Antarctica, popey. No point in denying it.
[12:44] <popey> haha
[12:44] <popey> I wish
[12:44]  * popey looks at his box'o'phones
[12:45] <sturmflut2> I can already see Softpedia's headline from tomorrow: "Canonical to reveal a top-secret Antarctica phone"
[12:46] <sturmflut2> "contains actual penguins"
[12:49] <didrocks> I would say popey has the one from Atlantis too :)
[12:49] <sturmflut2> didrocks: Exactly, thanks for the reminder
[12:49] <didrocks> yw! ;)
[12:50] <popey> When I was younger (and thinner) people said I looked like "The Man From Atlantis" -> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075533/
[12:52] <sturmflut2> Softpedia: "Canonical employee rumored to come from Atlantis, owns secret smartphone technology"
[12:52] <Elleo> waterproof ubuntu phones
[12:54] <cwayne> oh come one, it'd be phronix "canonical employee lives underwater WHY DO THEY HATE AIR SO MUCH"
[12:55] <sturmflut2> Sad, but true
[12:55] <Elleo> heh
[12:58] <popey> hah
[13:14] <sturmflut2> https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.developer.robert-ancell.mines Woohoo! Another entry on my wishlist goes away!
[13:14] <popey> hah
[13:15] <cwayne> oh man, Automatic has a rest api
[13:15] <cwayne> guess I know what I'll be doing in my free time
[13:15] <popey> i pointed robert at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/ and seems he picked mines first :)
[13:15] <popey> cwayne: automatic?
[13:16] <cwayne> popey, https://www.automatic.com/
[13:16] <popey> heh
[13:19] <jgdx> what's that apt syntax that let's you pin two or more packages to a given version?
[13:19] <jgdx> apt-get install {a b}=1337.0 dothnth work
[13:20] <jgdx> kenvandine, you're all knowing ^
[13:24] <jgdx> aah, it's apt-get install {a,b}=1337
[13:28] <elopio> hello
[13:30] <elopio> dholbach: fgimenez: brendand: if we upload the selenium version that federico prepared, that will break tests for people running in old firefox versions.
[13:30] <oSoMoN> jgdx, can you elaborate on bug #1459404 ?
[13:30] <elopio> I doubt there's many people doing that: running an old selenium version and an old firefox version
[13:31] <dholbach> elopio, if we upload it to wily?
[13:31] <elopio> but still, the correct solution would be to upload also the package with the binaries. So for those that will break, we offer a solution.
[13:32] <elopio> if we don't care about supporting tests on the old firefox version, which makes sense, then we can just upload it now.
[13:32] <kenvandine> jgdx, missing comma
[13:32] <elopio> I haven't been able to test it extensively in firefox though.
[13:32] <kenvandine> jgdx, ah... you figured it out
[13:34] <jgdx> oSoMoN, thanks for looking at it. Seems the user added two google accounts using the same gmail address
[13:34] <jgdx> oSoMoN, fixed by nuking both and re-adding it
[13:34] <oSoMoN> jgdx, ok, can you mark the bug invalid then?
[13:34] <jgdx> yup
[13:47] <elopio> dholbach: fgimenez: some more info: with the current selenium version in the archive, firefox tests don't work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11432933/
[13:48] <elopio> with the version from the PPA, they don't work either of course: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11432956/
[13:48] <elopio> to make them work, people have to install the marionette python client, for which we don't have a package: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Automated_testing/Setting_up_Marionette
[13:49] <dholbach> elopio, with 2.44 in the qa ppa the test proposed in https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/help-app/functional-test-template worked for me
[13:50] <dholbach> fgimenez suggested 2.45 in debian
[13:50] <dholbach> I could build and try that locally too
[13:50] <dholbach> and see if balloons' test from above still works
[13:50] <dholbach> let me try
[13:50] <elopio> dholbach: with firefox or oxide?
[13:51] <dholbach> elopio, sorry............. ignore me
[13:51] <dholbach> it's very close to the weekend already
[13:51] <dholbach> O:-)
[13:51] <dholbach> oxide of course
[13:51] <elopio> dholbach: :)
[14:23] <seb128> jgdx, kenvandine, I didn't quite understand what you were saying in the hangout/didn't pay enough attention, the test failures on e.g lp:~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/fix-1441192 are due to buggy changes or do we have flacky tests again there?
[14:24] <jgdx> seb128, it's on my list of ap test failures to fix
[14:24] <seb128> like some datetime and search tests are listed so I doubt it's all coming from the changes
[14:24] <jgdx> seb128, maybe the branch, not sure yet
[14:24] <jgdx> seb128, wth is up with that datetime test.. been flaky like forever
[14:25] <jgdx> I've run it successfully 200 times locally
[14:25] <jgdx> (forgot i had it running :p)
[14:25] <kenvandine> jgdx, i recently fixed the flakyness in datetime
[14:25] <seb128> kenvandine, did that land in trunk?
[14:26] <kenvandine> seb128, yes
[14:26] <seb128> so why is that still an issue?
[14:26] <seb128> I guess different problem?
[14:26] <kenvandine> seb128, gotta be different
[14:26] <seb128> or jgdx didn't rebase on trunk since that got fixed?
[14:26] <kenvandine> it was reliable after my fix
[14:27] <jgdx> when?
[14:27] <seb128> your fix was to not call a test from another one right?
[14:27] <seb128> jgdx, kenvandine, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~system-settings-touch/ubuntu-system-settings/trunk/revision/1394
[14:28] <seb128> 2015-04-22
[14:28] <jgdx> seb128, thanks, I def rebased after that
[14:29] <seb128> yeah, your branch has that
[14:29] <seb128> different issue then I guess :-/
[14:29] <seb128> hate those flacky tests
[14:29] <jgdx> only on mako
[14:29] <seb128> I don't have a mako to try :-(
[14:29] <jgdx> locally that specific test passes individually and in sequence
[14:30] <jgdx> my device is on its way to do some tests, so I am taking a closer look
[14:48] <yacc> Anyone got an idea how to access the google contacts from evolution? (The 14.04LTS version seems to use a deprectated method that stopped working for me today)
[14:50] <faenil> where are unity8 debug info packages?
[14:50] <faenil> can't find any
[14:51] <ogra_> yacc, you might want to ask in #ubuntu ... this is the pphone channel ...
[14:51] <ogra_> *phone
[15:03] <john-mcaleely> bfiller, can I ask you to look at this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dialer-app/+bug/1460111
[15:03] <john-mcaleely> it appears to block device tarball testing for ota4 for krillin
[15:03] <john-mcaleely> I can't get telephony to work :-/
[15:05] <TenLeftFingers> Installing an app (Neverball) is at 167%. What do I file the bug against?
[15:09] <ogra_> TenLeftFingers, ubuntu-download-manager ... or just hunt down mandel :)
[15:10] <TenLeftFingers> ogra_: thanks. I'll camp out here for a while in case they show up :)
[15:10] <TenLeftFingers> mandel: ping!
[15:16] <dednick> sil2100: ping
[15:33] <sturmflut2> TenLeftFingers: I think I remember a bug report for this one
[15:34] <TenLeftFingers> sturmflut2: I'll take another look
[15:34] <sturmflut2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image/+bug/1456542
[15:38] <TenLeftFingers> thanks sturmflut2, I'll 'me too' it.
[15:39] <sturmflut2> yw
[15:39] <popey> maybe you should /98
[15:39] <popey> bah
[15:42] <TenLeftFingers> hehe, what was that attempt popey ?
[15:42] <popey> it was half a comment in another channel
[15:42] <TenLeftFingers> ah
[15:42] <popey> then me trying to switch windows
[15:47] <bfiller> john-mcaleely: ok
[15:51] <john-mcaleely> thanks!
[17:59] <norbs> Hi there! I have a question about reporting a specific bug on touch. This is the right place to ask?
[18:01] <rsalveti> norbs: yup, just ask
[18:04] <norbs> Sometimes I have to press the physical button multiple on the side of the device to unlock the screen. It's a BQ phone. Did somebody already report this before?
[18:05] <norbs> If not I need to file a bug for this but I don't know for which package I start.
[18:05] <norbs> *I have to press multiple times
[18:09] <rsalveti> norbs: like it it only shows the screen after pressing it twice and it then blanks the screen again?
[18:09] <ogra_> norbs, the greeter is unity8 ... screen management is powerd
[18:09] <rsalveti> norbs: and then it works after the third time you press it
[18:09] <rsalveti> if that, we do have a bug, just don't know the number =\
[18:10]  * ogra_ remembers a bug we had where waking up the screen took long when your wallpaper was very high res.
[18:10] <norbs> Yes. That is my case rsalveti. Sometimes I have to press it twice and it appears after the third press and then blanks.
[18:13] <norbs> My wallpaper is the default one.
[18:13] <norbs> So I search unity8 first. That's a clue. Thanks!
[18:40] <SturmFlut> Someone built a "Snake" game, but it's a Snappy package and runs in a webbrowser :/
[18:40] <ogra_> heh
[18:40]  * ogra_ installs
[18:41]  * svij installs too
[18:42] <ogra_> hmm, what port does it run on ... my webdm version doesnt show the description
[18:42] <SturmFlut> ogra_: 9999
[18:43] <ogra_> hmmm, connection refused
[18:43] <ogra_> oh, heh
[18:43] <SturmFlut> At least it says port 9999 in the description
[18:43] <ogra_> because it runs in kvm ... i need to restart the vm and forward the port
[19:00] <norbs> I have reported the resume-related bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1460180
[20:35] <studio_> hi
[20:37] <studio_> are there some news about the m3u and mirscreencast?
[20:48] <taiebot> \o/ 100Mb of update for willy let see if it boots
[20:48] <taiebot> Yeah success here on mako..
[20:53] <studio_> is there a q/a for the ubuntu phone on an "official" site?
[21:00] <taiebot> nice update of the browser app on willy. Private mode + selection of the search engine. :-D
[21:38] <studio_> guys, come on, no news about m3u and mirscreencast?
[21:49] <Guest9122> Vito
[21:49] <Guest9122> Hello. How can i install Ubuntu Phone to my Lenovo a706 ?
[21:51] <k1l_> studio_: was some news announced?
[21:53] <studio_> k1l_, sure, as i was reading for support for m3u, wasn't it?
[21:58] <k1l_> studio_: "Among the work further out for over the summer to Ubuntu Phone are plans for supporting .M3U files, media hub playlist support, USB tethering and hotsupport support, BlueZ 5 Linux Bluetooth support, NFC support, ...." is what i found
[21:58] <k1l_> so there is no "its here now" how i read that
[21:59] <studio_> the problem is, what does m3u means? only local files?
[22:00] <k1l_> i would say its about streaming from websites. but i am not involved in the ubuntu development
[22:00] <Elleo> studio_: media hub can already play http streams, so once m3u parsing is implemented http streams should work fine
[22:00] <studio_> therefore i asked
[22:01] <Elleo> studio_: I've actually got a half finished app that parses m3u lists itself and then passes the resulting stream to media-hub which works fine
[22:01] <studio_> Elleo, only http files?
[22:01] <Elleo> I don't know if any other network transports are supported as I haven't tried them
[22:02] <Elleo> and its not limited to files, it can be constant streams
[22:02] <Elleo> (e.g. shoutcast/icecast)
[22:02] <studio_> Elleo, i like to try, what version, 15.10?
[22:03] <Elleo> studio_: http streams are supported in RTM already
[22:04] <studio_> Elleo, i need rtmp, rtmps, rtp, rtps, mms and so on ...
[22:05] <Elleo> no idea, if they're supported; you could try them and find out by just passing the stream url to a MediaPlayer QML element though
[22:06] <studio_> Elleo, before i flash my phone again on ut, can the emu handle maybe the same?
[22:07] <Elleo> almost certainly, it's a matter of whether media-hub supports it which is a purely software matter
[22:10] <studio_> so, on https://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/ubuntu/ x86 is doing on my pc the same as krillin on my phone?
[22:13] <studio_> how nice, there is an arale-image ;)
[22:18] <studio_> Elleo, just for example, if the new image can handel m3u/m3u8 via http, rtp, rtps rtmp, rtmps, mms and so on, what about "mirscreencast" and http?
[22:23] <Elleo> I have no idea about mirscreencast
[22:26] <nik90> Elleo: Does media-hub have trouble playing m4a files? Here is a bug report where looking at the logs, it looks like it couldn't play it.
[22:26] <nik90> more specifically the error message is Failed to start playback:  org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[22:27] <nik90> which is strange since it is local file,
[22:27] <nik90> Setting media to:   QUrl( "file:///home/phablet/.local/share/com.mikeasoft.podbird/podcasts/lnp140-hoch-die-internationale-spionageaktivitaet.m4a" )
[22:27] <Elleo> nik90: it vaguely rings a bell that there might have been some m4a issue
[22:28] <Elleo> nik90: I think it was with specific m4a files that had jpeg images encoded in them (e.g. for cover art)
[22:28] <Elleo> nik90: will see if I can find the bug
[22:28] <Elleo> nik90:
[22:28] <Elleo> nik90: https://bugs.launchpad.net/media-hub/+bug/1408681
[22:30] <nik90> Elleo: ah yes that could be it. I will update the podbird bug report with the necessary info. thnx
[22:30] <Elleo> no problem :)
[22:32] <studio_> Elleo, whois taking resposibilidad about mirsreencast here?
[22:34] <studio_> mirs"c"reencast
[22:35] <Elleo> studio_: I don't know anything about mirscreencast I'm afraid
[22:41] <studio_> Elleo, you never tried to record or forward your desktop via mirscreencast?
[22:42] <nik90> studio_: It has been a pipe dream of mine to record the phone for demo purposes to my desktop. Unfortunately it hasn't been so straight forward. That said my guess would be that the mir team handles mirscreencast.
[22:43] <studio_> nik90>
[22:43] <studio_> nik90>
[22:43] <studio_> nik90>
[22:44] <studio_> nik90, popey an other made youtube videos with that
[22:45] <studio_> i do not like to use nc, i prefer cvlc
[22:45] <Mister_Q> http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2015/01/21/live-screencasting-from-ubuntu-phone/
[22:45] <nik90> studio_: I know and I have also seen others blog about it, but personally I haven't much success with it.the framerate was low during my testing and also the file size was rather huge
[22:45] <nik90> Mister_Q: I was actually referring to that blog post ;)
[22:45] <Mister_Q> nik90: haha okay :D
[22:46] <studio_> nik90, what was your command via cvlc to stream the desktop in the local network?
[22:47] <nik90> studio_: I followed the commands mentioned in http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2015/01/21/live-screencasting-from-ubuntu-phone/ .. it was quite a long time ago, dont remember the exact details
[22:48] <nik90> also somehow my video color was skewed to a purplish tone
[22:48] <studio_> no, this is "nc" but not "cvlc"
[22:48] <nik90> studio_: Yeah I know and that's what I tried..I am a beginner to the terms "nc" and "cvlc" ;)
[22:49] <nik90> studio_: I think the low framerate issue was to compensate for the wireless transfer of data...if you figure how to stream via usb, do let me know with a nice blog post
[22:50] <studio_> cvlc, also vlc-player can handle raw videos an images, so how to forward the "desktop"? same problem is with the cam, what is known, there is no 4vl-driver for it
[22:51] <studio_> v4l-friver
[22:51] <studio_> driver, damn
[22:51] <nik90> ah ok
[22:57] <studio_> maybe i am "old school", but, i do not understand, there is an refer -phone -pcb, and nobody cares about it?
[22:58] <studio_> do "we" have to make reverse engineering for that?
[23:04] <studio_> did anybody here disassembled his bq e4.5?
[23:09] <Mister_Q> nope