| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 05:45 |
|---|---|---|
| zmoylan-pi | morning mammals | 05:47 |
| brobostigon | morning zmoylan-pi | 05:48 |
| * knightwise greets the carbon based units infecting the internet ! | 05:50 | |
| * brobostigon puts on a borg voice, he is only parly carbon based. | 05:50 | |
| brobostigon | partly* | 05:51 |
| knightwise | Half borg - half KFC ? | 05:51 |
| brobostigon | lolz v.2.3.1 | 05:51 |
| * zmoylan-pi hands brobostigon a lozenge to help ease the borg voice | 05:51 | |
| brobostigon | lolz v.2.3.1.1 | 05:51 |
| brobostigon | thanks zmoylan-pi | 05:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | so anyone super excited by new android promises? | 05:52 |
| knightwise | I'll see when it gets actual devices downstream | 05:52 |
| brobostigon | which ones? | 05:52 |
| zmoylan-pi | ability to limit access to features in a device. kinda like what symbian had a decade ago :-) | 05:53 |
| brobostigon | i have a nexus4, so i am probably screwed except for when it goes to CM. | 05:53 |
| brobostigon | zmoylan-pi: CM has had that for ages. | 05:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | though it seems you can't limit apps access to the internet for some reason | 05:54 |
| * brobostigon can, :) | 05:54 | |
| * zmoylan-pi hugs my dumbphone... :-) | 05:56 | |
| knightwise | zmoylan-pi: i've turned off most notifications on my smartphone . its amazing how smoothing it is | 05:56 |
| knightwise | soothing | 05:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | i deleted pinterest app as it started using notification area to tell me to update the flippin app | 05:57 |
| knightwise | God I hate the pinterest app. | 05:58 |
| knightwise | it keeps on mailing you on and on and on ! | 05:58 |
| zmoylan-pi | i had it on android tablet still knocking around | 05:58 |
| brobostigon | thats where my pebble is handy, silent phone, genetle vibe on activity. | 05:58 |
| knightwise | brobostigon: same for me (has a moto360) | 05:59 |
| knightwise | mostly use it to tell my phone to buzz at the end of a meeting | 05:59 |
| brobostigon | cool :) | 05:59 |
| brobostigon | ah. | 05:59 |
| knightwise | for example : ok google , set a countdown timer for 60 minutes | 05:59 |
| brobostigon | android wear does look interesting however compared to my pebble, its still inferior in many ways. | 06:00 |
| brobostigon | sw and hw. | 06:01 |
| knightwise | I disagree on that, I love the voicecontrol it offers | 06:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | i'd hate to share an office with people using voice control... | 06:03 |
| brobostigon | there are useful things like that, however at a disadvantage when it comes to screen readability, battery life. | 06:03 |
| brobostigon | ease to program for. | 06:04 |
| knightwise | zmoylan-pi: i use it mostly on the road and in the car | 06:06 |
| knightwise | never in the office | 06:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | yes, but it's like speakerphones, we've all been in public spaces where someone insists on using one... just bad manners | 06:07 |
| knightwise | I use the 'secret agent' approach :) I only talk to my phone, i do it discretely :) | 06:09 |
| brobostigon | while holding your phone, stroking the screen in a deep sexy voice, "helllo phone, please call my wife." | 06:12 |
| brobostigon | if james bond had a phone, thats what he would do. | 06:13 |
| knightwise | Indeed he would | 06:13 |
| knightwise | na .. just a "ok google : Text nyana 'im on my way , eta 20 00) | 06:13 |
| knightwise | my wife has the gear 2 , if she is in a rush she answers her phone on her watch | 06:14 |
| knightwise | she can make phonecalls on that watch | 06:14 |
| knightwise | but she never does it in publix | 06:14 |
| brobostigon | :) | 06:15 |
| knightwise | I NEVER use speakerphone in public , that is just wrong | 06:16 |
| brobostigon | yep, you dont want half the planet to hear and listen in on your conversation. | 06:20 |
| knightwise | treu | 06:25 |
| brobostigon | :) | 06:27 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 07:19 |
| diddledan_ | m00 | 07:19 |
| diddledan_ | morning | 07:19 |
| knightwise | ok .. nearly cooked the I7 Cpu on my mac mini there | 07:25 |
| knightwise | another nail in the coffin of running linux natively on unsupported hardware. | 07:25 |
| * popey squints back at Myrtti | 07:53 | |
| Myrtti | Facebook squint, that was | 07:54 |
| popey | :) | 07:57 |
| popey | I figured | 07:57 |
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| * Laney stares into the abyss | 08:09 | |
| Laney | jimmy wales is on desert island discs atm | 08:09 |
| bashrc_ | good moaning | 08:17 |
| SuperMatt | morning | 08:17 |
| MooDoo | morning SuperMatt | 08:17 |
| knightwise | ok , ... my mac mini just went nearly chernobyl on my while running Elementary .. for some reason temp sensors and fans didn't kick in. | 08:20 |
| * knightwise *harg* | 08:20 | |
| knightwise | thats it , im buying an xps13 with Ubuntu pre-installed | 08:20 |
| popey | hah | 08:20 |
| popey | I'm still pondering what to get :( | 08:20 |
| intrbiz | knightwise: XPS13 is a nice machine | 08:23 |
| Laney | knightwise: I ordered one of those on Wednesday | 08:24 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 08:24 |
| Laney | I heard that the shipped version of ubuntu has some bugs though, might need to upgrade if that's not fixed yet | 08:25 |
| SuperMatt | I liked the look of the new HPs which are coming to ebuyer with Ubuntu installed, but they only have Radeon cards D: | 08:26 |
| Laney | it was xps 13 or the x1 carbon for me | 08:27 |
| popey | yeah, those are the two at the top of my list | 08:32 |
| popey | but lack of touchpoint is a factor | 08:32 |
| Laney | everyone loves that | 08:37 |
| Laney | but I've never had it so nothing to miss for me :) | 08:37 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Learn About Composting Day! 😃 | 08:40 |
| popey | adding this to wishlist http://www.amazon.co.uk/FURminator-Long-Hair-DeShedding-Large/dp/B004WJ0L3Q | 08:43 |
| TwistedLucidity | popey: Those type work quite well. As do the rubber mitts...I can look up what I bought if you like. | 08:45 |
| popey | thanks | 08:45 |
| TwistedLucidity | Ok, about to go on a call; will do after | 08:45 |
| popey | i just have a plastic brush, which the cats aren't particularly interested in | 08:46 |
| JamesTait | popey, they are excellent. | 08:47 |
| JamesTait | popey, we have a furminator for our cats, and it really helps. | 08:47 |
| popey | excellent | 08:48 |
| JamesTait | Plus it's sturdy enough to withstand being attacked if you catch them when they don't feel like it. 😉 | 08:49 |
| * davmor2 feed JamesTait to the worms to see how well he composts :D | 08:50 | |
| davmor2 | popey: did you not instantly race out and buy one of those jml brushy scratch pads with catnip? | 08:52 |
| knightwise | Laney, which one did you order ? The HD version or the QHD ? | 08:52 |
| Laney | Q BABY | 08:53 |
| knightwise | Laney: Cool .. you sure ubunu won't have no scaling issues ? | 08:53 |
| Laney | find out when I get it :-) | 08:53 |
| TwistedLucidity | popey: We have a dog with the pretentions of a double coat (typical mutt). This works quite well: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001GJSEI4 | 08:53 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, I had to put my foot down on that one - both boys wanted to get a couple. | 08:54 |
| popey | Laney: is that the touch screen one? | 08:54 |
| TwistedLucidity | popey: This also wroks well: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003UUC9UQ | 08:54 |
| Laney | sure is | 08:54 |
| popey | interesting | 08:54 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: I think you are missing the point of them, it's for cleaning cats not feet | 08:55 |
| popey | this could be worth doing and just not use an external display at all | 08:55 |
| Laney | knightwise: 1880 at ×2 scaling is going to be okay | 08:55 |
| TwistedLucidity | popey: This wasn't great on the mutt, but might trick a cat into thinking grooming is strokey time: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001BFDU32 | 08:55 |
| popey | (I use an external display on my x220 because 1366x768 is too low) | 08:55 |
| Laney | I know the browsers were hidpi holdouts but not sure where they stand atm | 08:55 |
| popey | but with a larger res display on new laptop I'd be tempted to get rid of my external screen and just use the laptop like a laptop | 08:56 |
| TwistedLucidity | popey: Useless: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rosewood-Protection-Salon-Grooming-Slicker/dp/B003GPD51W | 08:56 |
| popey | heh | 08:56 |
| TwistedLucidity | popey: We have a brush like this (kinda like a Furinator-combo) it works great: http://www.amazon.co.uk/SMALL-DOGS-Functionality-Brilliantly-Accessories/dp/B00LEE3BTI | 08:57 |
| TwistedLucidity | Has the fine tooth side for getting out dead hair, and then a broad tooth for detangling/agitating the undercoat (which makes grooming easier) | 08:58 |
| TwistedLucidity | And there ends "Ubuntu Pet Corner" :-) | 08:59 |
| knightwise | Laney: i'm thinking of going for the Hd version. I love to work outside with it (its my mobile companion). Did you order the developer edition or just the windows version ? | 08:59 |
| Laney | knightwise: I got the one with 14.04 ... | 08:59 |
| Laney | what do you mean by the other one being better to work outside with? | 08:59 |
| Laney | because it'll have better battery life? | 08:59 |
| knightwise | Laney: better batt life AND a matt screen (non touch) | 09:00 |
| Laney | ah | 09:00 |
| Laney | I'm okay with gloss outside if the screen is bright enough | 09:00 |
| Laney | but I can probably count on my fingers the number of times I've used this one outside in the 5 years I've had it :) | 09:00 |
| knightwise | I will miss scrolling with touch .. I love that on my surface pro | 09:01 |
| knightwise | I was on the verge of ordering a surface pro 3 yesterday and just running ubuntu in a fullscreen vm ... (and run ubuntu natively on my mac mini) but .. at the end I think i'm better of just running ubuntu on supported hardware. | 09:03 |
| bashrc_ | yes. Trying to run it in a vm on a legacy OS might not be a very good user experience | 09:05 |
| TwistedLucidity | bashrc_: So long as goodness like GPU passthrough is available; why would the VM give two stuffs about the host OS? | 09:11 |
| TwistedLucidity | Unless the host OS is Windows 95.... | 09:12 |
| ne2k | I have bought an HP ProBook 455 G2 with Ubuntu pre-installed. It claimed it was going to come with 14.04, but it actually came with 12.04, which was a bit annoying. I have reinstalled with 14.04.2 desktop and I now need to find the extra drivers for trusty. | 09:15 |
| TwistedLucidity | ne2k: Go to 15.04. If you're going to take pain, may as well go for broke. | 09:18 |
| ne2k | before I blatted 12.04, I noticed that it had some repositories from HP (precise-stella-wanhua and precise-oem-sp1 and precise-oem-sp2). I'm trying to work out what the equivalent repositories are for trusty | 09:18 |
| TwistedLucidity | I'm finding 15.04 really nice, bar a few KDE glitches. | 09:18 |
| ne2k | I can't seem to find ANY documentation on where these names come from, what stella means, what wanhua means, anything | 09:19 |
| ne2k | is this a question for canonical, or for HP? the archives are hosted on hp.archive.ubuntu.com | 09:19 |
| TwistedLucidity | ne2k: Meh, I have a few repros that are still labelled "precise". Not had any issues | 09:19 |
| TwistedLucidity | ne2k: More a question for HP to be honest, it's their repo. If you can find the packages those repos provide, you can have a scout around. | 09:20 |
| TwistedLucidity | Also, the repos can be hit via a browser; see if "trusty" is is listed when you do. | 09:20 |
| ne2k | TwistedLucidity, I've done that. there are trusty-stella-* ones, but I don't even know what "stella" is. I'm looking for documentation on what this means | 09:21 |
| ne2k | and finding it... missing | 09:21 |
| TwistedLucidity | Looks like a Toshiba thing from an initial search | 09:22 |
| ne2k | interesting | 09:22 |
| ne2k | tbh, I just need a working rtl8723be wifi driver and the optimal fglrx | 09:23 |
| TwistedLucidity | stella-wanhua appears to be screen controls. Canoncial is listed as the maintainer | 09:23 |
| ne2k | TwistedLucidity, where are you finding this? | 09:23 |
| TwistedLucidity | "Description: A Brightness Workaround" | 09:23 |
| TwistedLucidity | ne2k: I'm just browsing the repo | 09:23 |
| ne2k | http://toshiba-buffalo.archive.canonical.com/dists/precise-stella-wanhua/public/binary-amd64/Packages | 09:23 |
| TwistedLucidity | Bingo :) | 09:24 |
| ne2k | so that's not particularly important | 09:25 |
| ne2k | so you think I could install the fglrx and rtlwifi packages from precise-oem-sp1 and it would be ok? | 09:25 |
| TwistedLucidity | ne2k: http://askubuntu.com/questions/457341/wifi-drops-and-wont-reconnect-until-reboot-14-04-with-rtl8723be#458518 | 09:26 |
| TwistedLucidity | That appears to be a complete solution for WiFi | 09:26 |
| ne2k | TwistedLucidity, fwlps=0 | 09:26 |
| TwistedLucidity | Aye, the commenter seems to have needed that. | 09:27 |
| TwistedLucidity | I can see "trusty-oem-sp" and "trusty-oem-sp1" exist; but without know exactly what packages are provided I couldn't really tell you if they are the Trust versions of the Precise ones you have | 09:30 |
| TwistedLucidity | I am sure someone with much more knowledge than me could help you more. | 09:31 |
| ne2k | there's nothing for rtlwifi in the trusty-oem* repos, though | 09:34 |
| ne2k | I think I need this http://hp.archive.canonical.com/pool/public/o/oem-wireless-rtlwifi-1367658-dkms/ | 09:36 |
| knightwise | Laney: I just got the quote on the I5 | 09:37 |
| knightwise | 1196, vat included | 09:38 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| Laney | knightwise: quote? | 09:51 |
| Laney | I just got it from dell's website | 09:51 |
| knightwise | price-offer | 09:52 |
| Laney | is that EUR? | 09:52 |
| knightwise | yep | 09:54 |
| Laney | nod | 10:01 |
| eux | symfony | 10:06 |
| davmor2 | friday fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I | 10:07 |
| popey | Laney: typically i you phone dell up they negotiate if they think you won't buy | 10:13 |
| === stevenm_ is now known as stevenm | ||
| TwistedLucidity | non-Linux: Are small, clip-on LEDs a thing? Trying to find some for backpacks etc and failing. | 10:20 |
| ne2k | TwistedLucidity, I have contacted HP and they tell me that they don't support Ubuntu. despite the fact that they sell a computer with Ubuntu installed | 10:21 |
| TwistedLucidity | ne2k: How...odd. | 10:21 |
| ne2k | TwistedLucidity, well, the maintainer on those packages does say "canonical engineering" etc. | 10:22 |
| TwistedLucidity | ne2k: So what? The contract is between you and HP. | 10:23 |
| ne2k | what contract? | 10:23 |
| ne2k | TwistedLucidity, I bought the laptop from eBuyer, an online retailer | 10:23 |
| ne2k | but they are boxshifters, so I don't expect them to know technical answers. they told me to contact HP | 10:23 |
| TwistedLucidity | ne2k: Oh, in which case the contract is between you an eBuyer. | 10:24 |
| TwistedLucidity | Not that that helps you | 10:24 |
| ne2k | yes, and they have offered me a refund as the goods were not as sold. which is about as much as I would expect from them | 10:24 |
| TwistedLucidity | Did that askubuntu things not help with the WiFi issue? Seemed like a full solution when I looked. | 10:24 |
| TwistedLucidity | You may also find that 15.04 fixes issues too due to the newer kernel etc | 10:25 |
| popey | ne2k: got a link to the device you bought? I'll raise it with the people who made the build. | 10:25 |
| popey | TwistedLucidity: you can run the 15.04 kernel on 14.04 | 10:26 |
| TwistedLucidity | popey: Aye, but it's so much easier to do "apt-get do-release-upgrade" IMHO. | 10:27 |
| ne2k | popey, ooh, thanks. it's this: http://h20566.www2.hp.com/portal/site/hpsc/public/psi/home/?sp4ts.oid=6943834 | 10:27 |
| popey | not if you want long term support it's not | 10:27 |
| ne2k | release upgrade has only ever caused MAJOR, MAJOR problems for me, so I never do it | 10:27 |
| ne2k | I want the LTS release | 10:27 |
| popey | ne2k: got the ebuyer link? | 10:27 |
| TwistedLucidity | ne2k: It does cause me some issues, but then I have more PPAs installed that is strictly healthy.... | 10:28 |
| ne2k | popey, http://www.ebuyer.com/705955-hp-455-quad-core-laptop-l8b56es | 10:28 |
| popey | thanks | 10:28 |
| ne2k | popey, are HP right that they didn't make the ubuntu build, that Ubuntu made it for them? | 10:28 |
| popey | ne2k: and this thing ships with 12.04? | 10:29 |
| ne2k | popey, well, the one I received yesterday did! | 10:29 |
| popey | ok | 10:29 |
| popey | thanks | 10:29 |
| ne2k | and the certification page http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201404-14968/ only lists 12.04.4 | 10:29 |
| ne2k | popey, what's your connection to this process? I don't understand how the whole thing works | 10:32 |
| popey | Well the PPAs are run by our engineering services department | 10:32 |
| popey | they will have done some work to enable the hardware | 10:32 |
| ne2k | HP are denying all knowledge, saying they have no responsibility to support HP on the computer, but the computer came with an HP build of Ubuntu. so they are right? | 10:32 |
| popey | which maybe why it ships with those PPAs enabled | 10:32 |
| ne2k | popey, yes, indeed, but I thought HP had done that work. it was actually Canonical, then? | 10:33 |
| popey | right, I'm mailing internally to raise this and find out if there's a better number you can call | 10:33 |
| popey | we do that work | 10:33 |
| popey | usually :) | 10:33 |
| popey | it varies, sometimes we do most/all of it, sometimes it's in collaboration with people on their side | 10:33 |
| popey | but let me get clarification from someone internal for you. | 10:33 |
| ne2k | popey, so you work for canonical | 10:34 |
| popey | yes | 10:34 |
| ne2k | popey, can I PM you my e-mail address so you can keep me posted? | 10:34 |
| popey | sure | 10:34 |
| ne2k | or e-mail you? | 10:34 |
| MartijnVdS | I wish the Raspberry Pi/VC4 DRI driver was more finished :( | 10:34 |
| popey | sure, alan.pope@canonical.com | 10:34 |
| * TwistedLucidity imagines popey walking down the office with the "baseball bat of blame" :-) | 10:35 | |
| popey | tricky when I work from home | 10:35 |
| ne2k | popey, cheers. what's your "title"? | 10:35 |
| popey | but yeah, i like that image | 10:35 |
| popey | community manager | 10:35 |
| ne2k | I have just apologized to the poor HP chat support operative for lambasting them | 10:36 |
| ne2k | lol | 10:36 |
| popey | haha | 10:36 |
| popey | how did you contact them? phone or website chat? | 10:36 |
| ne2k | web chat | 10:36 |
| popey | ok, ta | 10:36 |
| popey | ne2k: what's the output of "lsb_release -a" ? | 10:39 |
| ne2k | popey, I don't haev the machine in front of me atm | 10:39 |
| popey | ok | 10:40 |
| popey | no worries | 10:40 |
| popey | nice looking machine for the money though | 10:41 |
| popey | odd that it came with 12.04 | 10:41 |
| ne2k | popey, especially with the £50 cashback | 10:41 |
| popey | nice | 10:42 |
| * popey considers lunch | 10:42 | |
| * jpds too. | 10:43 | |
| davmor2 | popey: take a close look at the ebuyer descriptions, they list a 12 compute core then later it is 10, 14.04 and it's 12.04 the list kinda goes on like that :) | 10:43 |
| ne2k | davmor2, not that I can see | 10:45 |
| ne2k | popey, just e-mailed you, got it? | 10:46 |
| popey | yes | 10:47 |
| ne2k | popey, cheers. any vague idea of when I might expect an answer? not trying to rush you at all, I'd just like to know if possible | 10:47 |
| popey | dunno. will let you know as soon as I know | 10:48 |
| ne2k | popey, ok, cheers | 10:48 |
| Odd_Bloke | I had my eye on one of those laptops for my wife. | 10:51 |
| ne2k | Odd_Bloke, I've got a second 8GB stick arriving too, for a total of 16GB | 10:51 |
| Odd_Bloke | ne2k: How does it seem build-quality-wise? | 10:52 |
| ne2k | Odd_Bloke, pretty decent. it's quite thin. the keyboard has a very nice action | 10:52 |
| ne2k | it's kinda like a plastic copy of a macbook, if you like. the screen resolution seems very low for the size | 10:53 |
| popey | ne2k: really sorry you've had the experience. | 10:53 |
| ne2k | popey, well, it's hardly your fault, is it?! | 10:53 |
| Odd_Bloke | Ah, yeah, that's something I noticed when considering it. | 10:53 |
| ne2k | Odd_Bloke, no firewire, but then, what has? | 10:53 |
| ne2k | Odd_Bloke, no expresscard, but then, what has? | 10:54 |
| ne2k | ;-) | 10:54 |
| ne2k | Odd_Bloke, no comment on the battery life yet as I only received it yesterday | 10:54 |
| Odd_Bloke | I'm sure I could live with the absence. :p | 10:54 |
| ne2k | Odd_Bloke, the battery does seem strangely small, though. the seemingly sell larger ones that stick out a bit if you want | 10:54 |
| Odd_Bloke | Yeah, the battery does sound smallish. | 10:54 |
| ne2k | Odd_Bloke, it's your basic "business" laptop | 10:54 |
| Odd_Bloke | But my wife would have it plugged in most of the time anyway. | 10:55 |
| Odd_Bloke | So I'll let you and popey iron out the creases, then I'll get one. ;) | 10:55 |
| TwistedLucidity | ne2k: As was discussed yesterday, *everything* is Canonical's fault! :-P | 10:58 |
| ne2k | TwistedLucidity, haha | 10:59 |
| ne2k | I have to say that I am already quite impressed that someone from Canonical was actually here and actually offered to sort this out | 10:59 |
| davmor2 | TwistedLucidity: fun we all blame you, so does that mean everything is your fault? | 11:00 |
| TwistedLucidity | davmor2: It usually is, but I stopped caring years ago! | 11:01 |
| davmor2 | haha | 11:01 |
| ne2k | Odd_Bloke, I'll whack the solution on my blog https://atatdotdot.wordpress.com/ once I have it | 11:01 |
| ne2k | popey, Shengyao Xue <shengyao.xue@canonical.com> seems to do a lot of the stuff on this build | 11:03 |
| ne2k | popey, is there any documentation anywhere on how this whole system fits together? like, what is hp.archive.canonical.com? what is stella? what is stella-wanhua? what is wataugafour? if you search for these names, nothing comes up apart from the package repositories. there's no explanation | 11:04 |
| Odd_Bloke | ne2k: That is an amazing blog. | 11:05 |
| ne2k | Odd_Bloke, isn't it just?! ;-0) | 11:05 |
| popey | ne2k: basically any names you don't recognise are probably product code names | 11:08 |
| popey | used because we get hardware before its released | 11:08 |
| popey | so we don't reveal stuff that's under NDA | 11:08 |
| ne2k | popey, fair enough. can the installer image for 12.04 that was on the laptop be reacquired from somewhere? | 11:09 |
| ne2k | HP deny all knowledge of its existence | 11:09 |
| popey | I don't know. I'll ask | 11:09 |
| ne2k | despite having clearly been responsible for writing it to the disk before shipping it | 11:09 |
| popey | ooh, had a reply | 11:09 |
| popey | ne2k: are you happy for me to pass on your email address internally? | 11:09 |
| ne2k | sure | 11:09 |
| popey | ok | 11:09 |
| Laney | I bet it's an information not getting to the front line situation inside HP | 11:10 |
| popey | ya | 11:10 |
| davmor2 | Laney: ah they don't need to know | 11:11 |
| popey | ne2k: ok, passed on your email and irc nickname. hope they can help. | 11:11 |
| davmor2 | Laney: it's not like they deal with the customers.......wait a minute | 11:11 |
| TwistedLucidity | Probably because first-line will tend to follow a "Have you tried turning it off and on?" script. Second (or maybe third) line would have the chops and info to deal. | 11:12 |
| ne2k | TwistedLucidity, no, they sent me the link to the fglrx-*.tar installer. which I don't want, I want the proper repositories so it gets updated automagically. | 11:13 |
| TwistedLucidity | And this reminds me, I need to email Verbatim for some info (only way to get at the third line folks) | 11:13 |
| TwistedLucidity | ne2k: Oh right, there was at least /some/ info. More than I understood for before. | 11:14 |
| ne2k | anyone on surespot? I've created an account but have no friends. lol | 11:18 |
| TwistedLucidity | Never heard of it | 11:20 |
| davmor2 | ditto | 11:21 |
| TwistedLucidity | Ah, like Telegram | 11:21 |
| davmor2 | ne2k: ah you need to join telegram then, that where all the cool kids are :) | 11:24 |
| TwistedLucidity | SureSpot does multiple ids which I don't think Telegram does | 11:26 |
| TwistedLucidity | Neat | 11:26 |
| bashrc | doesn't telegram rely on proprietary servers, or is it like xmpp? | 12:09 |
| MartijnVdS | bashrc: their servers | 12:14 |
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| ne2k | bashrc_, same with surespot, but the end-to-end comms are cryptographically secure | 13:22 |
| ne2k | supposedly | 13:22 |
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