[08:46] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:52] <sick_rimmit> Good Morning lordievader
[09:52] <sick_rimmit> It's Sunny and birght here today :-)
[09:53] <sick_rimmit> Going out this morning with the family, den building and firelighting Woo Hoo
[09:53] <lordievader> Hey sick_rimmit, how are you doing?
[09:53] <lordievader> firelighting Whoo Hoo?
[09:53] <sick_rimmit> Yes good, what you upto today ?
[09:53] <sick_rimmit> Trying the "Flint n Steel" mthod today, fingers crossed
[09:53] <lordievader> Not sure yet... We'll see ;)
[09:54] <sick_rimmit> I just ordered another Ubuntu phone today too, this one is for development ;-)
[09:54] <sick_rimmit> Least ways that's what I told my wife ;-)
[09:55] <sick_rimmit> Later when I come back, I going to test out Latest builds for sgclark
[09:57] <lordievader> Are those Ubuntu phones usable?
[09:58] <sick_rimmit> Oh yes, I got one for my wife Alison, as an upgrade from her iPhone4
[09:58] <sick_rimmit> She really likes it.
[09:58] <sick_rimmit> I gave her no instructions At all
[09:58] <sick_rimmit> In fact I wasn't even at home when she set it up
[09:58] <sick_rimmit> She says, it's really cool
[09:59] <sick_rimmit> For me I love the fact I can open a terminal on it :-)
[09:59] <sick_rimmit> We've been so impressed with it, we bought 2 more, one each for our daughters
[09:59] <lordievader> Hehe, nice :)
[09:59] <sick_rimmit> Oh and for what you get they are incredibly cheap !!
[10:04] <sick_rimmit> Going now.. see you later
[10:38] <mparillo> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-531
[10:40] <lordievader> sgclark: cheers on pushing 5.3.1 to backports :)
[10:49] <mparillo> +1 (noted in the new post, along with thanks for the testers standing by).
[10:50] <mparillo> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348436 bit my daughter immediately, as I use a shell script in the desktop folder view to launch the minecraft jar for her.
[11:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:16] <soee_> mparillo: applications aren't released yet right ?
[11:18] <mparillo> I thought I saw sgclark call for testers, I did not see that she released them. Is there an easy way for me to check?
[11:23] <lordievader> mparillo: Your link mentions backports she said she needed a few testers before pushing to the backports. Backports != staging ;)
[11:31] <soee_> mparillo: applications were tested by me and one more person i think
[11:31] <soee_> Scarlett wanted one more to confim that everything is fine
[11:32] <soee_> so if someone can please test it and send test result to her :)
[11:36] <BluesKaj> soee_, the only problem I encounterd with the ppa sgclark asked us to test was the shutdown problem showed up agai, otherwise all was fine.
[11:38] <soee_> BluesKaj: this might nt be related to applications: shutdown and reboot works fine for me on my laptop here but @ work when im working on PC, they don't work since 1-2 months or longer
[11:39] <BluesKaj> soee_, my shutdown problem was solved until yesterday 
[11:39] <BluesKaj> last night actually 
[11:40] <BluesKaj> brb, gonna check 15.04 again just to confirm everything else is ok 
[11:40] <soee_> ok
[11:42] <mparillo> Plasma 5.3.1 is in backports, but I do not know 15.04.1 applications is yet  
[12:01] <BluesKaj> ok back , the only starnge thing I found was my soundcards aren't listed (listed as default) in system settings>multimedia>phonon music>device preference , although the hardware tab lists them properly and the playback codecs like DTS and DD are decoded properly as indicated on my audio receiver, System settings did crash once but relaunched ok without any more problems
[12:03] <BluesKaj> sgclark, ^
[12:08] <BluesKaj> hi clivejo
[12:08] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[12:23] <soee_> BluesKaj: yes i had also some System Settings crash
[12:24] <BluesKaj> yeah , but it wasn't serious and I saw nothing in the logs, soee_
[12:24] <BluesKaj> did you ?
[13:02] <soee_> BluesKaj: i didnt look into logs as this happens from time to time and its hard to track it
[13:02] <soee_> im not sur if it is when entering some section or after exiting one
[13:04] <BluesKaj> soee_, it crashed when exiting display and monitor...I think
[13:04] <soee_> BluesKaj: i think the same for me
[13:05] <sgclark> morning
[13:05] <soee_> BluesKaj: just tried it and yes after Display & Monior -> return to main window it crashed
[13:06] <sgclark> hmm this might be upstream
[13:06] <BluesKaj> 'Morning sgclark
[13:06] <soee_> but i had this before to, so i doubt its related to 53.1
[13:06] <soee_> *5.3.1
[13:06] <sgclark> I have family coming to town today and will not have alot of time to debug :(
[13:07] <soee_> sgclark: enjoy family life :)
[13:07] <BluesKaj> yeah, we have to setup for a gig this aft , so I'll be gone unless it rains 
[13:09] <sgclark> how have applications been?
[13:09]  * ahoneybun needs to get time to test for sgclark
[13:09] <sgclark> ok
[13:09] <sgclark> unfortunately I don't want to release and run lol
[13:10] <ahoneybun> don't run at all lol
[13:10] <soee_> sgclark: i think it is already testes by 3 users
[13:10] <BluesKaj> sgclark, did you see my post above about phonon?
[13:10] <soee_> *tested
[13:11] <sgclark> no I mean to tend to family 
[13:11] <sgclark> BluesKaj: yeah, that will require more attention. Can you file a bug?
[13:12] <soee_> one thing i noticed was that my Places in Dolphin weren't in teh same order after upgrade but thats not an issue for me and probably happend due to this Places bugfix
[13:13] <BluesKaj> sgclark, I'll check again later (on 15.10 atm) , if there's a problem I'll file one
[13:13] <sgclark> thanks!
[13:15] <soee> is there some KDE app to optimize images ?
[13:15] <soee> like select ~ 100 image files and optimize them
[13:21] <sgclark> don't work with alot of images :( seems like there should be something though
[13:21] <soee> BluesKaj: bshah helped a bit to debug System Settings crash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11452714/
[13:30] <soee> BluesKaj: SystemSettings crash bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343543
[13:38] <sgclark> releasing 15.04.1 applications to backports
[13:42] <sgclark> or not
[14:08] <soee> :D
[14:09] <sgclark> well I am getting internal error messages from launchpad :( I noticed backports is nearly full..
[14:09] <sgclark> no idea who to bug
[14:17]  * sick_rimmit pulling kubunu next-stage2 into VBox Kubuntu for testing ;-)
[14:20] <sgclark> ok bug files, my backports efforts is at a standstill until this is resolved.
[14:20] <sgclark> s/files/filed/
[14:20] <kubotu> sgclark meant: "ok bug filed, my backports efforts is at a standstill until this is resolved."
[14:21] <sick_rimmit> Wow! - That's alot of packages being upgraded
[14:21] <sgclark> yes
[14:21] <sick_rimmit> You've been very busy sgclark
[14:21] <sgclark> lol
[14:22] <sgclark> yeah
[14:22] <sgclark> will slow this week though, family arriving here in a few hours
[14:22] <sick_rimmit> Oh that's nice, family time
[14:23] <sgclark> yes much needed break to relax
[14:23] <sgclark> step away from the computer ;p
[14:24] <sick_rimmit> sgclark: Where do you find out what to package next ?
[14:24] <sick_rimmit> sgclark: How do you ensure that your not duplicating work with someone else ?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> had a t-storm, had to shutdown all devices, lightning was close
[14:37] <mparillo> It looks to me as if  15.04.1 applications have hit the Vivid backports, but Muon throws up a warning about authentication?
[14:37] <mparillo> Bad habit, I simply clicked proceed without getting the exact message.
[14:45] <sick_rimmit> Pah! I'm getting agitated...
[14:45] <sick_rimmit> Bloody UbuntuSDK is a pile a tosh
[14:46] <sick_rimmit> The UbuntuSDK Config parser, has mashed the config files, so it wont run out of the box..
[14:46] <sick_rimmit> I managed to hand edit those to fix them
[14:46] <sick_rimmit> None of the QT Examples will run... throwing permission errors all over the place
[14:47] <sick_rimmit> There is a deathly silence in #ubuntu-app-devel
[14:47] <BluesKaj> lost the internet again ...bad storms 
[14:47] <sick_rimmit> And I have know idea where the Bug Tracker is for the UbuntuSDK..
[14:47] <sick_rimmit> No flaming wonder there's no Apps
[14:47] <sick_rimmit> Sheezz
[14:51] <sick_rimmit> I suppose, I'll have to roll my sleeves up and fix it
[14:52] <mparillo> There is a Ubuntu SDK team on Launchpad. Maybe e-mail them?
[14:54] <sick_rimmit> Ah, yes I just searching for them on LP
[14:54] <sick_rimmit> I'm just frustrated, as I wanted to play with some App Dev, but it's all broken.
[14:55] <mparillo> I was just thinking as it is a weekend, they might be more likely to check e-mail on a smartphone than have IRC up
[14:56] <sick_rimmit> Ah yes that's a good point..
[14:56] <sick_rimmit> But why are they not standing by waiting patiently to assist my every whim...
[14:56] <sick_rimmit> Unacceptable
[14:56] <sick_rimmit> lol :-O
[14:59] <mparillo> I have seen that behavior on the #kubuntu channel. BluesKaj in particular is very patient with demands for immediate attention (maybe that observation is off-topic)
[14:59] <sgclark> sick_rimmit: well we usually commuunicate to each who is working one what. there is also fallback git to reject conficts
[15:00] <sgclark> mparillo: authentication error? does it not update? can you create a bug with the exact error? I have to head out to airport ot pick up family :(
[15:01] <sick_rimmit> sgclark: I am off and on with packaging, because I am so busy, and last time I did some I ended up duplicating work of someone else :-(
[15:02] <sick_rimmit> I was trying to repackage latest avconv stuff to get audio problem in kdenlive fixed
[15:02] <sick_rimmit> anyway... it became clear that I was outside the process loop, so I kinda wasted my time, and that of others.. sadly
[15:04] <sgclark> sick_rimmit: ack :( yeah when I first started that happened to me a few times. We need to probably integrate trello for packaging processes
[15:07] <sick_rimmit> sgclark: Yes an action list, like trello where you can assign something would help
[15:07] <sgclark> yeah
[15:07] <sgclark> sick_rimmit: do you have trello access?
[15:07] <sick_rimmit> I did think about just getting say you, or jonathan to just task me with stuff, but then sometimes my family steel all my time
[15:08] <sick_rimmit> Yes I do have Trello, and I have some of the Kubuntu boards..
[15:08] <sgclark> yeah those darn pesky families :)
[15:08] <sick_rimmit> Pesky yes, but I do love em, I'll drop anything and everything at their request :-)
[15:09] <sgclark> sick_rimmit: if you have access to 15.04 board can you create a task for this? It is a good idea.
[15:09]  * sick_rimmit reaches for his Galaxy tab and Trello
[15:09] <sgclark> lol yeah so do I :)
[15:10] <sick_rimmit> I seem to have 14.10 15.10 15.10 Docs and Kubuntu Promotion
[15:10] <sick_rimmit> But I am not on the 15.04 board
[15:10] <sgclark> hmm
[15:11] <sgclark> I am still on the fence with working on Wily. I am taking this week to reflect. I will make it a local task for now until I can add you.
[15:11] <sick_rimmit> I'm a newbie with Trello really..
[15:12] <sgclark> I have to go to the ariport now. May or may not be able to sneak back on.
[15:12] <sick_rimmit> Could you add me to the 15.04 board ? I'm looking to see if I can figure out how to add myself
[15:12] <sgclark> sec let me see if I am admin
[15:13] <sgclark> it should have added you
[15:13] <sgclark> sick_rimmit:  ^
[15:13] <BluesKaj> sgclark, so far Wily has fewer problems than Vivid , at least on the surface 
[15:14] <sgclark> BluesKaj: good to know ty
[15:14] <sick_rimmit> Yay! Perfect
[15:27] <shadeslayer> ScottK: does the ubuntu-backports team accept backports of python
[15:28] <shadeslayer> ( I know you're not involved anymore, but curious since you deal with python stuff )
[15:28] <shadeslayer> ScottK: the KDE sysadmin team wanted a python backport
[15:35] <mparillo> sgclark: I think it did update on muon, after I clicked proceed. I will try to do so on my other box using apt. I think it failed on apt. Enjoy your family and I will ping with the launchpad bug. 
[15:36] <sgclark> mparillo: thanks!
[15:56] <mparillo> Of course, there were no errors on the other machine (real HW). Ready to announce  15.04.1 applications?
[16:01] <clivejo> anyone else experience this - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348434
[16:01] <sick_rimmit> I've nearly finished the next-stage2 build in VBox, which is looking good so far
[16:11] <ricktimmis> Do you know, I like the dark breeze theme, but it does have a few problems with forms, black on black
[16:12] <ricktimmis> sgclark: You'll be please to know the next-stage2 packages all installed and upgraded seamlessly, and the VBox install of Kubuntu 15.04 is working fine
[18:13] <soee> mparillo: ping
[18:14] <mparillo> pong
[18:14] <soee> mparillo: Scarlett posted comment that applications are push to backports https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/Xtt7p6nPzgX
[18:14] <soee> so i think you can announce it
[18:15] <mparillo> TY. Will do. I am curious, did you chat client alert you that I was active after being away from keyboard?
[18:15] <soee> nope, i just saw her comment and contacted you
[18:16] <soee> i didn't know you are on or off :)
[18:17] <mparillo> It was just strange that you pinged me the moment I sat down the computer.
[18:18] <soee> random luck :)
[18:19] <soee> i came home like 10 minuts ago 
[18:20] <mparillo> Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, thrice is enemy action ;-)
[18:20] <mparillo> I will announce in news and G+ (news will feed Planet KDE and Planet Ubuntu)
[18:22] <soee> cool :)
[18:31] <ahoneybun> anyone around to help me with this card: https://trello.com/c/19vTqg3v/13-port-muon-discover-featured-apps-to-kf5
[18:31] <kubotu> [15.10 :: Doing :: Port Muon Discover featured apps to kf5 ++ JR, AH]
[19:18] <Gamayun> clivejo: was the database working in vanilla 15.04?
[19:41] <valorie> yay, backports!
[19:41] <valorie> thank you, sgclark
[20:27] <Etriaph> G'day folks.
[20:30]  * Etriaph hugs his 5.3.1
[20:32] <mparillo> Tweeted also.
[20:32] <valorie> mparillo: what's your handle?
[20:33] <valorie> oh, you mean from @kubuntu
[20:34] <valorie> retweeted
[20:38] <mparillo> I have no handle. All my social networking is thanks to Riddell's gentle encouragement. And having something worth tweeting (and G+'ing) is thanks to sgclark and the testers who hang around here. As somebody might say {{{hugs}}}
[20:47] <valorie> heh, that's my calling card
[20:47]  * valorie {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} mparillo
[20:47] <valorie> thanks for tweeting
[20:48] <Etriaph> I retweeted earlier too.
[20:48] <Etriaph> Gotta spread the word!
[20:52] <valorie> yup, that's how it works