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austin6598is there an easy way to transfer settings from another kde distro that i have installed to kubuntu?02:30
__dan__I don't think there's a cute GUI way of doing that, but you could always transfer your home directory over and hope for the best02:36
__dan__including all the hidden directories, specifically .kde02:37
austin6598rather not take any chances if there is no official support  or even someone who has done this before02:38
__dan__I'm sure people have done it before, but no experience of that myself02:39
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excalibrDo you guys have recommendation for mails notifier that works with gmail, yahoo and outlook?03:31
hyper_charen't these evil?03:33
excalibrs/gmail, yahoo and outlook/any imap4-compatible server/ :P03:35
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hyper_chRiddell: you don't happen to look at irc right now?04:48
fewchahyper_ch: yesterday did you mean "apt-get install -f packagename" or just "apt-get install -f" ?04:50
hyper_chapt-get install -f04:50
fewchaokay04:50
fewchahyper_ch: https://paste.kde.org/p25oxyj1g/ynojif04:51
hyper_chfewcha: what as the issue again?04:52
fewchahyper_ch: [Friday 29 May 2015] [3:59:57 PM] <fewcha> Can someone please tell me what the following means and what I need to do when I get something like this? https://paste.kde.org/pldrmypm5/aspftj04:53
hyper_chfewcha: ah yyeah... you tried to install something and the dependencies don't match04:53
fewchayes04:54
hyper_chso apt-get install -f will remove some of the installed stuff and then you have a usable system again... however it won't install what you tried to install I guess04:54
fewchaso should I do an autoremove?04:54
hyper_chexcept libprotobuf-lite8 libqt5concurrent5 the rest are all -dev packages, so they aren't needed except when you want to compile04:55
hyper_chnot sure what those two are though04:55
hyper_chwhat did you try to install?04:55
fewchai did apt-get install qt4*04:55
hyper_chwhy?04:55
fewchai wanted to install all packages related to qt404:55
hyper_chwhy?04:56
fewchahmm04:56
fewchamaybe I shouldn't do that04:56
hyper_chit's all moving to qt5 anyway04:56
fewchaokay04:56
hyper_chso if you have no compelling reason I wouldn't install it04:56
fewchaalright04:57
hyper_chbut of course I don't know what you want04:57
fewchaso should i do qt5* instead?04:57
hyper_chwhy do you want to install all packages?04:57
fewchabecause i was thinking that maybe it would be a good idea to install all packages related to qt5 so that i don't have to install them later04:58
hyper_chhmmm, not sure if that works04:59
fewchahyper_ch: so should I install just qt5-default then?04:59
hyper_chI still don't know what you wanna do04:59
fewchahyper_ch: i want to build the Marble source code and it requires qt05:00
hyper_chthat's still kde 4 and so qt405:01
fewcharight05:01
hyper_chthen you need qt4-qmake05:01
fewchaah, okay05:02
hyper_chand very likely build-essential05:03
hyper_chand git05:03
fewchayes, cmake and git I have installed already05:05
hyper_chapt-get build-dep marble05:06
hyper_chthat should fetch the other marble dependencies05:06
hyper_chbut you'll need to have the -src repos enabled05:07
fewchahyper_ch: I am not getting what you mean by having the -src repos enabled05:10
hyper_chgot pastebinit installed?05:11
fewchano, I will install it right after fetching the marble dependencies05:12
hyper_chthen:   pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list05:12
fewchaokay05:13
hyper_chpastebinit makes it simple to paste stuff to pastebins :)05:13
fewchaI see05:13
* fewcha 's net speed is frustratingly slow05:16
drawkwardcan anyone help me with https://paste.kde.org/pbr86t9kj05:17
fewchahyper_ch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11446066/05:19
hyper_chfewcha: you have source repos:  e.g.   deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted05:20
hyper_chso run:  apt-get build-dep marble05:20
fewchahyper_ch: yes, I have done that05:21
hyper_chwell, then you should be able to build marble now05:21
hyper_chhttps://marble.kde.org/sources.php05:21
fewchaokay05:21
hyper_chgood luck05:21
fewchaworking! :D05:22
fewchathanks! :)05:22
hyper_chbuild-dep will pull the packages that are usually required for building a package from source05:22
hyper_chof course if you pull the source from git and there are new dependencies, that won't be refelected by build-dep05:23
fewchaokay05:25
hyper_chhappy building05:27
hyper_chyes, 5.3.1 in the backport PPA :)05:39
hyper_chlife will be much better again05:39
hyper_chbrb... also new kernel05:42
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westyvwany way to reset the theme and colors? I know I can use system-->settings, but that doesnt work06:21
westyvwthis is after an upgrade to Kubuntu 15.0406:21
westyvwif I cant figure it out I will need to reinstall, as the colors make it so I cant see folders or icons in certain circumstances06:22
hyper_choh geez, gazillion of errors with 5.3.106:28
hyper_chscript on the desktop get opened in kate instead of being run06:33
hyper_chakonadi fails to start06:33
hyper_chstill can't submit bugs regarding plasma/desktop07:12
hyper_chkate can't save documents anymore07:23
__dan__wat07:24
hyper_chupdated to kubuntu team backport ppa 5.3.107:24
hyper_chlots of bugs07:24
__dan__i just upgraded now, literally 1st reboot07:24
hyper_chshell scripts on the desktop are opened in kate instead of being run07:24
hyper_chmy test files on my desktop can't be saved anymore after editing07:24
hyper_chI have one in which I do report my bugs07:24
hyper_chso reporting some bugs lead to another bug - I cna't save07:25
hyper_chakonadi isn't starting anymore07:25
hyper_chmeaning no more kmail07:25
__dan__well at least there's a bright side :P07:25
hyper_chI need mail07:25
hyper_chand kalendar and todos07:25
__dan__i see the same bug with kate07:26
__dan__file saved once but wont save again07:26
__dan__this is really bad07:26
hyper_chI'll give you my bug report in a little bit07:26
__dan__"Data you requested to be saved could not be written. Please choose how you want to proceed."07:27
hyper_chno feedback for me:  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34843707:27
ubottuKDE bug 348437 in general "Kate doesn't save files anymore" [Major,Unconfirmed]07:27
__dan__it didnt give any feedback if I chose Save or CTRL-S07:28
__dan__but if you quit, it asks you do you want to save, I chose yes and that's when I got that error up07:28
__dan__seems to only be a problem if you open a file from the desktop / Dolphin07:29
hyper_chfeel free to add this07:29
__dan__and I noticed the desktop now "examines" the file before it opens it, which usually only happens on network shares IIRC07:30
hyper_chI guess it's related to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34843607:30
ubottuKDE bug 348436 in Desktop Containment "Clicking shell scripts on desktop opens Kate instead of running them" [Normal,Unconfirmed]07:30
hyper_ch__dan__: can you put a shell script on your desktop and click it?07:30
__dan__will try07:30
__dan__yup, opens in kate07:31
hyper_chI guess those two are related07:31
__dan__although tbh I'm not even sure what the behaviour was before07:31
hyper_chbefore it run them07:31
hyper_chI have a Start.sh file on my desktop07:31
hyper_chwhen I click that, my fav. apps get run and network mounts established07:32
hyper_chwell, just added another 4 bugs07:32
hyper_chmy list of pending bugs  in 15.04 has grown to 1907:32
__dan__ahhh i see07:32
hyper_ch__dan__: because it depends whether I'm at home or work or someplace else07:33
hyper_chso I don't want to store the session but on my needs I just click the shell script and have what I want :)07:33
hyper_cheven starting konsole with multiple tabs and server connections07:33
__dan__funny, if I click on the notification that now pops up "examining" after i double click on the shell script, it comes up with "The file desktop:/test.sh is an executable program. For safety it will not be started."07:33
hyper_chwhat notification?07:34
hyper_chwhen I click it, it just opens in kate - no notification07:34
hyper_chah, you mean the examining07:34
hyper_chright, that's what I also get07:35
hyper_chI think these are some serious bugs07:36
__dan__I'm just relieved Kate isn't totally broken07:37
__dan__80% of what that machine does is Kate07:38
hyper_ch__dan__: did you report on my reports?07:38
hyper_chwhat about kdevelop?07:38
hyper_chor qtcreator?07:38
__dan__nah mate caffeine and nicotine before bug reports07:38
hyper_chlol07:38
__dan__i dont run either of those, sorry07:38
hyper_chbtw, you also run the code map in kate, right?07:39
hyper_chcode-map-scrollbar07:39
__dan__nah but i can test it if you like07:39
hyper_ch__dan__: I find it very useful07:39
hyper_chthought you would also :)07:39
hyper_chor are you so good, you can write code from top to bottom without need for scrolling?07:39
__dan__haha no but a lot of the time my stuff is split into different files anyway07:40
__dan__beyond that, two finger mac-like scroll is usually enough, or CTRL-F hehe07:41
hyper_chI really like the code map.... that's what kate sets apart from nano :)07:41
__dan__ah i love the new mercurial integration07:41
__dan__although I haven't been able to get python plugins working on KDE 5 yet07:42
hyper_chhttp://kate-editor.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/MiniMap.png07:42
hyper_chisn't mercurial dead?07:42
__dan__nah no way07:44
__dan__git is clearly more popular but i decided to go with mercurial and it's never disappointed me07:45
hyper_chto each one his own07:45
hyper_chI'm just a very, very basic git user07:46
__dan__i forget the specific reasons why i went with mercurial but it's very easy to use, doesn't require a server, and merges things very intelligently07:47
hyper_chsound slike git07:47
__dan__although i have a server that integrates with redmine and shows me nice pretty diffs and graphs and stuff based on the repos07:47
__dan__ya they are basically cracking the exact same nut07:47
hyper_chpassword store can also use git and that's what I make use of :)07:48
__dan__ah I use owncloud for that07:49
__dan__which is fine if a little flakey in my experience07:50
hyper_chwell, I discovered password store a little while ago and move everything in there yet.... it's very simple to use07:50
hyper_chI use oC for my club to store pics and documents and stuff07:50
hyper_chand also to auto-upload pics I take wiht my cell phone07:50
hyper_chin order to use password store on my cellphone, I had to install little debian :)07:51
hyper_chI was pondering to create an own password manager as chromium plugin07:51
hyper_chbut then I discovered password store :)07:51
hyper_chI mean lastpass is really nice and such... but you're not in control of the data07:52
__dan__I use KeePass07:52
hyper_chhttp://www.passwordstore.org/  --> bash & gpg07:52
__dan__your data is your own, supported on every platform I care about07:52
hyper_chsince it's gpg encrypted, you could sync it to github ;)07:53
JoshuaFarmerKHello07:53
hyper_chbut the filenames and directory structures are not gpg encrypted....07:53
__dan__hi JoshuaFarmerK07:53
hyper_chso having an entry like   Web\somepr0nsite.com  could be embarrassing07:53
__dan__ahhh yeah i see that, just looking at it now07:54
JoshuaFarmerKMy country is China,We are pleased to join07:54
hyper_chand there's a simple qtpass app :)07:54
hyper_chhi JoshuaFarmerK07:54
__dan__ni hao from england :)07:54
hyper_ch(doesn't have multi line editing this far yet but works fine otherwise)07:54
JoshuaFarmerKI had trouble on the microcontroller, someone can help me?07:55
__dan__JoshuaFarmerK: we can try :)07:55
hyper_chhttp://ijhack.nl/en/project/qtpass07:55
__dan__I just use KeePass, single file, fully encrypted, works with Linux, OSX and Android, and a bunch of others07:56
JoshuaFarmerKI use Gvim edit a C program, and then use the ISP to download to the motherboard, but the program #include <reg89.h>, reg89.h where I should be placed07:57
hyper_chI tried keepass but just couldn't get to like it ;)07:57
hyper_chJoshuaFarmerK: I don't really know c/++, so I can't help you07:58
__dan__JoshuaFarmerK: This channel is for support of Kubuntu - a Linux desktop operating system - you might be better off joining a channel related to C programming07:59
JoshuaFarmerKThank you very much07:59
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JoshuaFarmerKWhat kind of work you are doing?08:00
__dan__JoshuaFarmerK: maybe you could try ##programming or ##c08:01
__dan__not sure why the double # but i'm relatively new to freenode08:01
__dan__I'm working on my caffeine and nicotine intake, then I might go play ArmA 3 :P but I like Python :)08:02
JoshuaFarmerKYou time is in the morning or at night?08:03
__dan__09:03 here08:03
hyper_ch__dan__: don't forget to "me too" on my bug reports ;)08:04
JoshuaFarmerKYou are powerful, like the Chinese martial arts08:04
__dan__not very powerful at the moment, try me again in an hour or two :P08:05
__dan__and yeah I will hyper_ch08:05
JoshuaFarmerKAre you American?08:07
* __dan__ is from England08:07
hyper_chthat's sort of the same, except you have much nicer accents and you generally know how to correctly spell :)08:08
JoshuaFarmerKNice to meet you @ Dan. Thank you for being my friend, I will be leaving the channel, because I'm off08:11
__dan__good luck with your programming JoshuaFarmerK, goodbye :)08:13
MalsasaHello. I am currently using Kubuntu 15.04 as livehdd and it is very stable. I am satisfied. Thank you.08:13
JoshuaFarmerKGoodbye, my friend08:14
__dan__Malsasa: good to hear that :)08:16
__dan__hyper_ch: just added a comment to your kate save bug08:16
Malsasa__dan__: thank you!08:17
__dan__hyper_ch: and a quick comment on the other one too08:19
hyper_ch__dan__: thx, happy gaming08:20
__dan__hehe thx :)08:20
hyper_chI apporve :)08:21
__dan__good good :) to be honest i would have been oblivious to both bugs if you hadn't pointed them out08:23
hyper_chuntil you'd hit them ;)08:25
__dan__hehe ya08:26
hyper_chwell, I hit bug also by accident08:30
hyper_chthe kate bug I hit because I write down my reported bug in a seperate text file... if I hadn't done so, I can't tell when I'd have hit that bug08:31
lordievaderGood morning.08:46
__dan__morning lordievader :)09:58
lordievadero/09:58
__dan__ur not lagging i was afk09:58
lordievaderI usually have a screen open with irc hilights ;)09:59
__dan__ya i got irc on a separate little netbook but was busy shooting virtual terrorists09:59
mparillohttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-53110:38
hyper_chalready reported 4 bugs10:39
lordievaderhyper_ch: What bugs?10:40
lordievaderNice to see 5.3.1 is pushed to backports.10:40
hyper_chlordievader: akonadi doesn't run anymore - no kmail, kalendar, todos10:40
hyper_chlordievader: clicking on shell scripts on the desktop opens them in kate instead of running10:40
hyper_chlordievader: opening text files on the desktop results that you can't save them in kate10:41
lordievaderHmm... :(10:41
lordievaderSome of those are painful.10:41
hyper_chall of them are10:41
hyper_chhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34843610:41
ubottuKDE bug 348436 in Desktop Containment "Clicking shell scripts on desktop opens Kate instead of running them" [Normal,Unconfirmed]10:41
hyper_chhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34843710:41
ubottuKDE bug 348437 in general "Kate doesn't save files anymore" [Major,Unconfirmed]10:41
hyper_chhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34843410:42
ubottuKDE bug 348434 in general "Akonadi doesn't start anymore" [Major,Unconfirmed]10:42
lordievaderLet me see if I can confirm them.10:42
hyper_chI think the first two are somehow interlinked10:42
mparilloI can confirm the first.10:42
lordievadermparillo: Please do so in the bug report too :)10:43
hyper_chmparillo: add "me too"10:43
mparilloSorry that is what I meant. A "me too". I seem unable to change the status on bugs.kde.org the way I can on Launchpad.10:46
mparillodone10:46
mparilloMy daughter found that, as I needed a shell script on the desktop folder view to launch the minecraft jar for her ;-)10:48
hyper_ch:)10:48
lordievaderHihi, for the first bug, here it tries to open the script with Okular.10:48
hyper_chlordievader: you're using the bug wrong ;)10:48
lordievaderhyper_ch: I did what you wrote ;)10:49
hyper_chlordievader: send me $ 10000.-10:49
hyper_chI'll only believe that you did what I wrote when I get that ;)10:49
lordievaderVariable ' ' not declared.10:49
hyper_chwell, but it shows also for you that something isn't right10:50
lordievaderExactly. Added my comment to the bug report.10:51
hyper_choh, you're also from Tulip-and-wooden-shoes-land :)10:51
lordievaderCorrect.10:52
hyper_chthat's already two people that I know on freenode :)10:53
lordievaderTwo?10:53
hyper_chyou and vandenoever10:53
lordievaderHmm, not a familiar name to me.10:54
hyper_chhttps://blogs.kde.org/2013/06/19/really-source-code-software10:54
hyper_chit's a good article10:57
lordievaderYayy Gentoo :D10:58
hyper_chsounds like you've never tried nixos10:59
lordievaderCorrect. But it was a stab at "Is that really the source code for this software?" (My answer would be "yes, I compiled it from that source")11:00
hyper_chI know :)11:01
lordievaderAh I see why it opened in Okular rather than Kate. Kate wasn't installed.11:10
hyper_chkate not installed? oO11:10
lordievaderDon't judge! It was a debootstrap install. Rarely use Kate so I didn't notice ;)11:11
hyper_chI'm not judging11:11
hyper_chjust eyeing you with suspicion11:12
hyper_chso, Okular is the next best thing to Kate11:12
hyper_chbtw, I did update my pdf tools again today :)11:13
BluesKajHowdy all11:14
hyper_chhi BluesKaj, already on 5.3.1?11:15
BluesKajyup11:15
hyper_chI already made a few bug reports and some can be confirmed ;)11:16
hyper_chdo you have to powers to set them to confirmed?11:16
lordievaderhyper_ch: Okular was installed. Guess KDE thought, well next best thing. It did display the text though.11:16
hyper_ch:)11:16
BluesKajhyper_ch, well, atm I'm running 15.10, so i can't confirm11:17
hyper_chmaybe you can confirm it on 15.10 also11:17
BluesKajwhich bug or bugs?11:19
hyper_chhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34843611:19
ubottuKDE bug 348436 in Desktop Containment "Clicking shell scripts on desktop opens Kate instead of running them" [Normal,Unconfirmed]11:19
hyper_chhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34843711:19
ubottuKDE bug 348437 in general "Kate doesn't save files anymore" [Major,Unconfirmed]11:19
hyper_chand akonadi refuses to run fo rme :(11:19
NotTheOnionayup niggas11:20
BluesKajcan't confirm the shell scipts nor that doesn't save files, both scripts I use worked and kate doers save my edited files. hyper_ch11:21
hyper_chyou're doing it wrong ;)11:21
BluesKajNotTheOnion, speak English pls ,forget the cool homey crap talk11:22
hyper_chhe left already11:22
BluesKajlet me rephrase hyper_ch,  can't confirm the shell scripts nor that kate doesn't save files, both scripts I use worked and kate does save my edited files.11:23
hyper_chhmmmm....  still strange11:23
BluesKajgood, idiots like that, we don't need11:24
hyper_chthe not being able to save only happens when I open files from the desktop11:24
hyper_chopening them in kate or from dolphin works as it should11:24
hyper_chI suspect those two bugs are related somehow11:24
BluesKajhyper_ch, uhm, then you're not using root permissions and if you try editing they won't save11:25
lordievaderBluesKaj: Why would you need root rights to edit something on the desktop?11:26
hyper_chwhy would I need root permissions?11:26
BluesKajdunno lordievader why would you ?11:26
BluesKajusually editing requires root permissions afaik , unless you open them in the file manager11:27
lordievaderBluesKaj: Precisely, so why did you say that you need it? "then you're not using root permissions"11:27
JunkHunkhello I recently made a video using openshot and I use gwenview to import photos from camera...the point is that a thumbnails folder suddenly appeared in my home folder...does anybody know what is that for? why is it not in a hidden folder? or whether it is safe to delete it?11:28
lordievaderBluesKaj: Editing requires write access to the file. If you are the owner you don't need root.11:28
BluesKajyou can't save edits from desktop opened scripts or files afaik11:28
lordievaderIf those files are yours I see no problem with opening them and editing them. (Or saving your edits for that matter)11:29
lordievaderYou own the files, they are yours to change.11:29
BluesKajI don't drag text files or editable files to the desktop11:29
hyper_chalso it worked up to 5.3.011:29
hyper_chJunkHunk: it's save to delete... it will just speed up previews of pics11:30
JunkHunkhyper_ch,  okay...11:30
__dan__for me, that bug allows me to save only once, so it can't be permissions11:31
hyper_ch__dan__: I thought you were gaming11:32
__dan__yeah ArmA 3 was good but CSGO is still full of whiney kids11:33
__dan__although I learnt some new russian words, I think11:33
hyper_chcsgo?11:33
__dan__Counter Strike: Global Offensive11:34
hyper_chthe only think you'll ever need to know in russian is:  я хочу чтобы ты была мамой моих детей11:35
__dan__man i knew you were a hacker11:36
__dan__only hackers have those keys on their keyboard11:37
hyper_chcopy'n'paste ;)11:37
hyper_chworks wonders on utf-8 enabled systems11:37
* __dan__ eyes hyper_ch nervously11:38
hyper_ch?11:38
__dan__ufw enable11:38
__dan__woops wrong window11:38
__dan__;)11:38
hyper_chdid you run it through google translate yet?11:39
__dan__lol nah 1 sec11:39
hyper_ch;)11:40
__dan__hahaha i hope not :P11:41
hyper_chthe only thing you need to know in russian11:41
__dan__i wouldn't even know how to begin pronouncing that11:41
hyper_chwhen you met a goodlooking russian girl, you don't need to say anything else11:41
__dan__yeah unfortunately the only russian words I've learned are bad11:41
lordievaderPerhaps a move to #kubuntu-offtopic is a nice idea?11:42
hyper_chlordievader: not really:)11:42
hyper_chnobody else is asking for support11:43
lordievaderThen I'd like to point to the guide lines.11:43
__dan__im already in there btw11:43
lordievaderhyper_ch: Doesn't matter. It is offtopic for this channel.11:43
__dan__not exactly on topic11:43
hyper_chchannel topic doesn't say anything about offtopic :)11:43
lordievaderNo, but the guidelines do.11:45
lordievader!offtopic | hyper_ch11:45
ubottuhyper_ch: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:45
hyper_chwell, since I use kubuntu, all questions are somehow kubuntu related11:45
__dan__he's right dude, join offtopic11:46
__dan__I have picture of official russian microphone to share with you11:46
hyper_chI don't like offtopic channels11:46
hyper_chtime to leave this chan then11:46
__dan__wow, maybe a little overreaction?11:47
hyper_chwhy, no offtopic in here11:47
__dan__*facepalm*11:47
__dan__I wonder if it's worth adding a small explanation to the bot of why the separation between support and chat is a good idea11:51
__dan__"This allows us to better focus on support queries here, and reduces the time it takes for supporters and developers to read backlogs." etc11:52
RoeyHEY ALL11:55
Roeyhey all *11:55
Roeysorry capslock11:55
Roey__dan__:  I just wanted to say that I think this is an excellent idea11:55
Roey__dan__:  and that this is what we did when making #kde-cafe as a chat adjunct for #kde-devel11:56
__dan__hi Roey, thanks, obviously the wording is just off the top of my head, but it might have avoided what just happened here11:56
Roey__dan__:  and it worked fabulously.11:56
__dan__ah cool maybe we can steal your wording then haha :)11:56
Roeyhahaha alright, come visit #kde-cafe and check our topic ;)11:56
__dan__I've got no idea who is in charge of the bot, but thanks for the invite :)11:57
Roeysure!11:57
Roeybtw the people in #kde-cafe are /so/ friendly11:57
RoeyKDE devs and whatnot11:57
Roeyand also, the on-topic channel for #linguistics is in ##linguistics (yeah, freenode naming rules and all I know)11:58
__dan__ah cool :) i have a lot of respect for the KDE devs, and i'm a big fan of their whole ethos11:58
xennex81I am quite comfy in 14.10 again I must say (entirely offtopic :P)11:58
Roey__dan__:  cool :)11:58
RoeyAlso, in ##linguistics, it says this for the topic:11:59
Roey##linguistics :: About linguistics. Keep it civil. | Have a question? Ask and stick around.11:59
Roeyit used to say "on-topic only.  Keep it together, guys"11:59
__dan__I never tried 14.10, I have 14.04 on this and my dev / storage server, a 14.04 VM on my windows box, and 15.04 on a new laptop I bought specifically for KDE 5 goodness :)11:59
xennex81I wish I could have got 14.04.2 running, but it failed...12:00
xennex81this iso at least worked12:00
__dan__I'm running that on here now, what problems did you have?12:01
xennex81I tried Ubuntu Server first. There was a mount bug that was related to FD0 being turned on in bios but not connected, as well as mounts giving problems for the CDROM/DVD itself12:02
xennex81during the install12:02
xennex81it is quite well documented or at least prevalent or visible on the internet, that bug12:03
xennex81after that I tried Kubuntu 14.04.2 and I had boot issues after installation completed.12:03
xennex81it wouldn't get past a certain point in the boot sequence, not sure at all what went wrong.12:03
__dan__hmmm how odd, never experienced that myself12:04
xennex81something seeming also to do with mounts? There was some "Starting Read ahead (.....) (other mounts)" thing that was the last message to be seen.12:04
xennex81after that I gave up and just installed 14.10 again.12:05
xennex81I would have wanted to be on LTS so at least the distro wouldn't run out on me.12:05
__dan__yeah that's why I'm on 14.04 here12:06
bobhello12:17
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__dan__hi bob12:18
Guest24884I have upgrade to the latest Kubuntu, but the icon theme is not breeze like it's selected in systemsettings12:18
__dan__hmmm I wonder if it's worth going into system settings, change to a different icon set, then change back to the one you want and restarting the machine?12:20
Guest24884Cool, I have swith to breeze icon12:20
Guest24884+c12:21
__dan__another satisfied customer! haha12:21
Guest24884thx12:21
Guest24884^^12:21
__dan__yw :)12:21
Guest24884Have a nice day12:21
__dan__you too bud thx12:21
xennex81__dan__: strange, I could not get *rid* of the Breeze Icons ;-)12:26
xennex81I had these flat icons in the system tray12:26
__dan__I don't mind the new theme at all, but I tend to live with a system for a while before I start tinkering with the visuals12:27
xennex81now these same icons are still white and grey, but they are silverly12:27
BluesKajxennex81, the breeze theme is flat because it's differnt and suppoedly cool12:28
xennex81:)12:28
xennex81how cool :P12:28
xennex81it don't mind it being there, as long as I can not select it ;-)12:29
xennex81as long as I can make it look like 14.1012:29
D322i5_ how do you remove  this error on accessing root /root/.rvm/scripts/rvm: No such file or directory12:29
xennex81why are you accessing it D322i5_? I don't know what .rvm is12:30
__dan__D322i5_: could you be a little more specific?12:30
__dan__ruby version manager?12:30
__dan__maybe you installed RVM as your user, and not as root, therefore the root shell is trying to look for that in $HOME and failing?12:31
* __dan__ is not big on ruby so isn't really sure12:31
D322i5___dan__ :I recently uninstalled RVM (Ruby Version Manager) from ubuntu 14.04. The terminal error appeared after I finished the RVM installation. The error appears every time I launch Terminal under root permissions12:45
__dan__D322i5_: ahhh ok, it might be worth sudoing to root and having a look at your .bashrc and .profile files12:47
__dan__sounds like RVM added something that runs when you fire up bash12:48
__dan__and neglected to remove it during uninstall12:48
BluesKajwas going to suggest a purge or remove RVM*12:49
BluesKajbut he left12:49
__dan__oh yeah12:50
__dan__nvm12:50
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Guest3305ciao a tutti13:04
__dan__hi13:04
Guest3305tutto ok ?13:05
__dan__sorry the only human language I understand is English13:06
__dan__and I know how to ask someone if they want to buy a donkey in Spanish13:06
Guest3305I understand, unfortunately with English are not very fast.13:08
Guest3305Anyway, I wanted to ask you about using Kubuntu as one system.13:08
__dan__ok :)13:09
xennex81I just had this weird bug, I went into system standby and when I came back (from sleep/suspend) the Flash plugin in Firefox wouldn't play youtube video's properly anymore until I logged out and back in.13:09
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Guest3305Chi usa Kubuntu  come unico sistema operativo ?13:10
Guest3305#Kubuntu-it13:11
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xennex81question: how can I stop firefox from loading folders of downloaded content in Gwenview :S.15:08
xennex81I seriously don't want it to use gwenview (which is pointless) but just Dolphin15:10
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mefistoweird problem that started a few days ago: kde style seems to be stuck in gtk theme no matter which theme I choose in system settings, and some icons don't appear in some buttons16:15
xennex81nvidia drivers reports errors, ie. it doesn't work ;-).17:06
xennex81and deinstalling the driver requires a reboot after each component17:06
xennex81beh17:06
xennex81unworkable17:06
xennex81of course there is no driver for windows 10 so I used the windows 8 one17:07
xennex81oh wrong channel17:07
xennex81I wanted offtopic17:07
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KaiserAHey, I'm having trouble, for some reason my music players won't work, the rest of the applications that use audio do output, but amarok won't...19:09
KaiserAAny clues?19:09
george_KaiserA, I would start with the volume control in amarok. then go to amarok's settings>configure amarok> playback> configure phonon19:12
george_can you give an example of another applicatin that can use the audio. eg youtube?19:13
mefistoweird problem that started a few days ago: kde style seems to be stuck in gtk theme no matter which theme I choose in system settings, and some icons don't appear in some buttons19:15
KaiserAYoutube does work19:16
KaiserAlet me check that19:16
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mewshiLogicalDash:? O.o20:04
kaiserAHello, fucked up my system here, is it possible to wire a sata to USB to get the data out of the hard drive?21:01
metallickaiserA: do you mean connecting your hard drive, by a USB connector, to another machine?21:02
kaiserAYeah21:02
metallicIf you mean what I think you mean, yes, it is possible21:02
kaiserATried to use a live USB to upload the data to somewhere, but it won't let me manipulate the files21:03
DragnslcrSure, buy a USB hard drive enclosure21:03
metallicYou can acquire it in some shop :)21:03
kaiserAEverything is closed and I need to do it before Monday21:03
metalliclol21:04
DragnslcrBut if the computer still works, a LiveCD or LiveUSB will work fine21:04
metallicWake up soon on Monday21:04
kaiserATried to do that, but it doesn't let me copy the files to anything21:04
kaiserADidn't let me compress them, copy them, nothing21:04
DragnslcrWell, you would someplace to copy them21:04
DragnslcrCan you mount the hard drive?21:04
kaiserAGive me a sec, I'll boot it up again though the USB21:06
kaiserAAnd by a sec I meant a while, God it's slow21:07
metallicDoes someone use here Konqueror for browsing the web? In my computer it randomly freezes sometimes :/21:10
metallicif I wait long enough it will eventually come back to "life"21:10
metallicbut it is kind of annoying. Does someone else suffer this?21:11
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kaiserA Fast forward a while got the files out and I'm reinstalling the OS21:32
kaiserAI made an extra partition to install windows onto, I should leave it without a mounting point, right?21:33
metallicyes21:34
metallicWindow's partitions are formatted as NTFS, in case you forgot :/21:35
kaiserAI do know that, it's not like I have used it for years21:35
metallic:>21:36
kaiserA25 BG should suffy for when I plonk w7 in there right?21:36
kaiserAGb21:36
kaiserABloddy autocorrector21:37
metallicDon't know, I have not used windows for a very long time21:37
metallic:/21:38
kaiserANor have I, I'm just leaving it there in the occasion I need it21:38
metallicNo need for Windows :>21:40
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EtriaphDoes anyone know how to reset a kdetalk.net password?21:58
valorieEtriaph: at the bottom of https://kdetalk.net/ it says: If you encounter problems, or simply have questions, you can send a mail to sysadmin@kde.org22:05
EtriaphYa, I sent the email, just thought there may be a password recovery for it through KDE Identity or something.22:05
valoriedunno22:05
RamboJuniorHi All22:26
RamboJuniorCan I get some help about my teamviewer icon is missing, after install it is loading and everything but no icon comes up in notification22:27
valorieRamboJunior: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/22:28
valoriein short: teamviewer needs to join the 21st century22:28
RamboJuniorjust checkin the link just a secound22:30
RamboJuniorbut i other words theres no way to get an icon next to clock?22:31
valoriewell, adding sni-qt or so helped22:32
valorie!info sni-qt22:32
ubottusni-qt (source: sni-qt): indicator support for Qt. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.6-0ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 56 kB, installed size 183 kB22:32
valoriebut if they don't put in modern icons, it is hard to display them without using old broken stuff22:33
valoriethat said, if it is really important, you can install the old broken whatever-it-is22:33
RamboJuniorthank you, i will give it a shot, unfortunately I'm a new user of linux22:35
RamboJuniorDo you think, this "issue" is the same with version 14.04?22:36
valorieno, this is a Plasma 5 issue22:39
valorie14.04 is still KDE422:39
valorieI assume that if someone (you?) files a bug with teamviewer22:40
valoriethey will make the necessary changes22:40
RamboJuniorAl right, thanks , yeah I will give them a heads up :)22:41
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RamboJuniorthank you very much for your help Valorie22:42
valorieisn't spam lovely22:44
valoriewho would have thought that it would haunt us in IRC too22:44
bpromptyou mean, you didn't click eagerly and repeatedly on that link for a free SEO?  ohh man, you're losing big savings22:45
RamboJuniorgonna check IRC as well22:46
valorieheh22:46
f10the vertical space for the title bar of breeze window decoration is much bigger in kubuntu than on my debian machine even though i set buttons to "small"... it's still huge, any idea how to fix this?22:54
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nfkf10, a screenshot would be helpful as well as if you have a high DPI display23:19
austin6598what is the root password for tty1?23:31
Etriaph5.3.1 fixed the Swing issue, that's happy.23:33
austin6598what is the root password for tty1?23:34
Etriaphaustin6598: The root password is the same for every console.23:34
austin6598what is it? sorry im new to linux23:34
Etriaphaustin6598: There's no default.  You can set it by sudoing to root.23:35
austin6598what is the command for that?23:35
Etriaphaustin6598: Do: sudo -i23:35
Etriaphaustin6598: It'll ask for your account password23:35
Etriaphaustin6598: If you're not on the sudoers list you won't be able to sudo to root.23:36
austin6598sudo -i23:37
austin6598password:23:37
austin6598password incorrect23:37
Etriaphaustin6598: Did you install Kubuntu yourself?23:37
austin6598yes23:37
austin6598i did ctrl alt f1 to get to tty123:38
Etriaphaustin6598: Then the user account you created when the system was intsalled should be on the sudoers list; when you do: sudo -i the password it asks you for is *your* password23:38
Etriaphaustin6598: Login as your account on tty1 then sudo at the command prompt23:39
austin6598i am already logged in23:39
austin6598i just want to use tty1 as root23:39
Etriaphaustin6598: I understand, but you have to change root's password first.23:39
austin6598ok how23:39
Etriaphaustin6598: For that you need to sudo to root or run passwd through sudo23:39
nfkaustin6598, why would you want to do that? is there some problem?23:40
nfki hope you're not trying to install nvidia driver that way23:40
austin6598plasma crashed and i need to relaunch it23:40
nfkmuahaha23:40
austin6598ok i typed in my username and logged into my account through ttty123:40
nfkroot ash nothing to do with that23:40
nfk*has23:41
austin6598what is the command to start kde plasma?23:41
nfki'm pretty sure with plasma 2 it should relaunch itself automatically, if not, try alt+f2 and if it shows a prompt on the upper part of your presumably black screen try log out or leave (and if it's localized, in your local language)23:42
nfkaustin6598, log out and log back in, or just kill -u `whoami` from tty1 (but not as root)23:42
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austin6598there is no way to just relaunch it?23:42
nfksorry23:42
nfkmy bad' killall -u `whoami`23:43
austin6598alt f2 shows the search23:43
nfkaustin6598, it should relaunch automatically23:43
EtriaphHit Alt-F2 and type: plasmashell23:43
bpromptaustin6598:     check alt-f723:43
austin6598can i paste in tty1?23:43
nfkif not, i'd just log out/kill all processes for that user and log in once more23:43
nfkaustin6598, yes and no23:43
austin6598Etriaph> thanks that worked23:44
nfkaustin6598, are you really a noob? you sound awful well verced in this stuff23:44
austin6598well i was using opensuse23:44
austin6598just got kubuntu23:44
austin6598im sort of experienced23:44
austin6598im only 16, use windows a lot23:44
nfksounds more like a troll to me23:44
nfkwhatever23:44
austin6598oh23:44
austin6598sorry23:44
bpromptopensuse with kde?23:44
austin6598yes, now i am transferring everything over to kubuntu23:45
bpromptfor kde is kde, regardless of the distribution23:45
Etriaphnfk: Please try to be polite, everyone starts somewhere.23:45
austin6598expect to see me here a lot in the future. not a troll, just an idiot23:45
nfkEtriaph, sadly i have seen my share of trolls and quite a few will act like noobs23:46
bpromptaustin6598:    "Don't let life discourage you; everyone who got where he is had to begin where he was."   ~~Richard L. Evans~~23:47
austin6598:D23:47
Etriaphnfk: I understand your motivation, but giving someone the benefit of the doubt is more of an accepting stance when someone is new to the community.23:47
nfkyeah, i try to keep that in mind IRL (though it's sometimes extremely hard to do that) but internet is a bit of a wild west be them social networks or irc23:49
EtriaphI've been using Linux for more than 15 years, when I started I had to use startx to get a GUI23:49
EtriaphKDE 1 baby haha23:50
nfkno way23:50
nfkare you sure it was just 15 years ago?23:50
EtriaphWell, 199923:50
EtriaphOr 98 maybe?23:50
nfki first experienced kde like 13 years ago and it was 3.2 or 3.3 already23:50
EtriaphNah23:50
bpromptsame here23:51
nfksame what?23:51
bpromptI had... hmmm kde 3.0 I think, way back then23:51
EtriaphAh, I guess it was23:51
bpromptaround 99 or so23:51
EtriaphHoly crap23:51
Etriaph200223:51
austin6598is there any way to copy and paste a panel keeping all the widgets. i want 2 since i have 2 monitors23:51
EtriaphI was running KDE on RedHat 5.023:52
EtriaphIn 98/99ish23:52
bprompthell, I was running slackware off a floppy :P23:52
nfkaustin6598, you can probably do it manually by editing some files when KDE is  not running but i'd refreain from that and just create a new pannel on the other screen23:52
Etriaphaustin6598: Creating a panel and adding stuff to it takes just a few minutes.23:52
nfkdid you really customise it that bdly that you can't recreate it within minutes?23:53
Etriaphbprompt: Now that's a dated scene :D23:53
nfkmy desktop is probably one of a kind worldwide yet it woud take like 2 or 3 minutes to set up from default install23:53
Etriaphbprompt: I was running an eggdrop bot off of my P90; 16Mb RAM and 2.1Gb HDD23:53
austin6598plasma keeps crashing23:54
bpromptused to run mandrake 7  and SuSE 9.2 on a dual boot, and win98 on a 3rd partition23:54
Etriaphaustin6598: Have you updated your insall yet?23:54
austin6598yes23:54
austin6598i installed google chrome, synergy, and a few widgets23:54
Etriaphhttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-applications-15041-available-kubuntu-150423:54
austin6598fully system updated23:54
EtriaphYou'll want to add that repo.23:55
EtriaphIt stabilizes a lot of things.23:55
nfkbprompt, i did my debian or was it freebsd(?) installs with 3 floppies just some 10 years ago23:55
nfkyep, i probably got my first dvd-rw back in 2005 or somesuch and till then i had only floppies, iirc23:55
Etriaphnfk: Used to make a floppy for FTP install23:56
EtriaphSlow.........23:56
bpromptmust have been freebsd if any, 10 years ago, that was more than 10 floppies, more like ...  let's see 2005.. more like one or maybe 2 cds, 1 cd for install and 2 for optional apps23:56
nfkyeah, my net was fairly slow back then as well23:56
nfksomething like 10 or 20 Mbps23:56
bpromptfloppies install tis more  like 20years ago23:56
nfknowadays that's a slow torrent :D23:56
EtriaphYa, I like my 50Mbps23:57
nfkbprompt, netinstall naturally23:57
bprompthmm23:57
Etriaphbprompt: Ya, I installed RPMs via the RedHat FTP repository.23:57
nfkit sometimes took multiple attempts to contact the bsd/debian server in the neighbouring contry too23:57
EtriaphOne... package... at... a... time23:58
nfkEtriaph, when i started with linux i had no net at all, so it was 0 packages per year23:58
Etriaphnfk: That's some time ago.  :D23:58
nfkand it as some mandrake 9.x so it was basically partically broken at all times23:59
austin6598is it possible to re order the icons in the system tray?23:59
Etriaphaustin6598: Not that I know of.23:59
nfkEtriaph, not that much really, i got 54k cable via proxy about 11 years ago23:59
nfkthen it went decent half a year or a year later23:59
bpromptEtriaph:     my suse 9.2 I bought the dvd, came with a heapload of apps in it, so pretty much its own repository... and now and then, I still hop around at www.rpmseek.com    <-- they do rpms as well as debs23:59
austin6598is there an easy way to get a list of all my widgets on opensuse kde 4?23:59

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