[02:30] <austin6598> is there an easy way to transfer settings from another kde distro that i have installed to kubuntu?
[02:36] <__dan__> I don't think there's a cute GUI way of doing that, but you could always transfer your home directory over and hope for the best
[02:37] <__dan__> including all the hidden directories, specifically .kde
[02:38] <austin6598> rather not take any chances if there is no official support  or even someone who has done this before
[02:39] <__dan__> I'm sure people have done it before, but no experience of that myself
[03:31] <excalibr> Do you guys have recommendation for mails notifier that works with gmail, yahoo and outlook?
[03:33] <hyper_ch> aren't these evil?
[03:35] <excalibr> s/gmail, yahoo and outlook/any imap4-compatible server/ :P
[04:48] <hyper_ch> Riddell: you don't happen to look at irc right now?
[04:50] <fewcha> hyper_ch: yesterday did you mean "apt-get install -f packagename" or just "apt-get install -f" ?
[04:50] <hyper_ch> apt-get install -f
[04:50] <fewcha> okay
[04:51] <fewcha> hyper_ch: https://paste.kde.org/p25oxyj1g/ynojif
[04:52] <hyper_ch> fewcha: what as the issue again?
[04:53] <fewcha> hyper_ch: [Friday 29 May 2015] [3:59:57 PM] <fewcha> Can someone please tell me what the following means and what I need to do when I get something like this? https://paste.kde.org/pldrmypm5/aspftj
[04:53] <hyper_ch> fewcha: ah yyeah... you tried to install something and the dependencies don't match
[04:54] <fewcha> yes
[04:54] <hyper_ch> so apt-get install -f will remove some of the installed stuff and then you have a usable system again... however it won't install what you tried to install I guess
[04:54] <fewcha> so should I do an autoremove?
[04:55] <hyper_ch> except libprotobuf-lite8 libqt5concurrent5 the rest are all -dev packages, so they aren't needed except when you want to compile
[04:55] <hyper_ch> not sure what those two are though
[04:55] <hyper_ch> what did you try to install?
[04:55] <fewcha> i did apt-get install qt4*
[04:55] <hyper_ch> why?
[04:55] <fewcha> i wanted to install all packages related to qt4
[04:56] <hyper_ch> why?
[04:56] <fewcha> hmm
[04:56] <fewcha> maybe I shouldn't do that
[04:56] <hyper_ch> it's all moving to qt5 anyway
[04:56] <fewcha> okay
[04:56] <hyper_ch> so if you have no compelling reason I wouldn't install it
[04:57] <fewcha> alright
[04:57] <hyper_ch> but of course I don't know what you want
[04:57] <fewcha> so should i do qt5* instead?
[04:57] <hyper_ch> why do you want to install all packages?
[04:58] <fewcha> because i was thinking that maybe it would be a good idea to install all packages related to qt5 so that i don't have to install them later
[04:59] <hyper_ch> hmmm, not sure if that works
[04:59] <fewcha> hyper_ch: so should I install just qt5-default then?
[04:59] <hyper_ch> I still don't know what you wanna do
[05:00] <fewcha> hyper_ch: i want to build the Marble source code and it requires qt
[05:01] <hyper_ch> that's still kde 4 and so qt4
[05:01] <fewcha> right
[05:01] <hyper_ch> then you need qt4-qmake
[05:02] <fewcha> ah, okay
[05:03] <hyper_ch> and very likely build-essential
[05:03] <hyper_ch> and git
[05:05] <fewcha> yes, cmake and git I have installed already
[05:06] <hyper_ch> apt-get build-dep marble
[05:06] <hyper_ch> that should fetch the other marble dependencies
[05:07] <hyper_ch> but you'll need to have the -src repos enabled
[05:10] <fewcha> hyper_ch: I am not getting what you mean by having the -src repos enabled
[05:11] <hyper_ch> got pastebinit installed?
[05:12] <fewcha> no, I will install it right after fetching the marble dependencies
[05:12] <hyper_ch> then:   pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:13] <fewcha> okay
[05:13] <hyper_ch> pastebinit makes it simple to paste stuff to pastebins :)
[05:13] <fewcha> I see
[05:16]  * fewcha 's net speed is frustratingly slow
[05:17] <drawkward> can anyone help me with https://paste.kde.org/pbr86t9kj
[05:19] <fewcha> hyper_ch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11446066/
[05:20] <hyper_ch> fewcha: you have source repos:  e.g.   deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted
[05:20] <hyper_ch> so run:  apt-get build-dep marble
[05:21] <fewcha> hyper_ch: yes, I have done that
[05:21] <hyper_ch> well, then you should be able to build marble now
[05:21] <hyper_ch> https://marble.kde.org/sources.php
[05:21] <fewcha> okay
[05:21] <hyper_ch> good luck
[05:22] <fewcha> working! :D
[05:22] <fewcha> thanks! :)
[05:22] <hyper_ch> build-dep will pull the packages that are usually required for building a package from source
[05:23] <hyper_ch> of course if you pull the source from git and there are new dependencies, that won't be refelected by build-dep
[05:25] <fewcha> okay
[05:27] <hyper_ch> happy building
[05:39] <hyper_ch> yes, 5.3.1 in the backport PPA :)
[05:39] <hyper_ch> life will be much better again
[05:42] <hyper_ch> brb... also new kernel
[06:21] <westyvw> any way to reset the theme and colors? I know I can use system-->settings, but that doesnt work
[06:21] <westyvw> this is after an upgrade to Kubuntu 15.04
[06:22] <westyvw> if I cant figure it out I will need to reinstall, as the colors make it so I cant see folders or icons in certain circumstances
[06:28] <hyper_ch> oh geez, gazillion of errors with 5.3.1
[06:33] <hyper_ch> script on the desktop get opened in kate instead of being run
[06:33] <hyper_ch> akonadi fails to start
[07:12] <hyper_ch> still can't submit bugs regarding plasma/desktop
[07:23] <hyper_ch> kate can't save documents anymore
[07:24] <__dan__> wat
[07:24] <hyper_ch> updated to kubuntu team backport ppa 5.3.1
[07:24] <hyper_ch> lots of bugs
[07:24] <__dan__> i just upgraded now, literally 1st reboot
[07:24] <hyper_ch> shell scripts on the desktop are opened in kate instead of being run
[07:24] <hyper_ch> my test files on my desktop can't be saved anymore after editing
[07:24] <hyper_ch> I have one in which I do report my bugs
[07:25] <hyper_ch> so reporting some bugs lead to another bug - I cna't save
[07:25] <hyper_ch> akonadi isn't starting anymore
[07:25] <hyper_ch> meaning no more kmail
[07:25] <__dan__> well at least there's a bright side :P
[07:25] <hyper_ch> I need mail
[07:25] <hyper_ch> and kalendar and todos
[07:26] <__dan__> i see the same bug with kate
[07:26] <__dan__> file saved once but wont save again
[07:26] <__dan__> this is really bad
[07:26] <hyper_ch> I'll give you my bug report in a little bit
[07:27] <__dan__> "Data you requested to be saved could not be written. Please choose how you want to proceed."
[07:27] <hyper_ch> no feedback for me:  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348437
[07:28] <__dan__> it didnt give any feedback if I chose Save or CTRL-S
[07:28] <__dan__> but if you quit, it asks you do you want to save, I chose yes and that's when I got that error up
[07:29] <__dan__> seems to only be a problem if you open a file from the desktop / Dolphin
[07:29] <hyper_ch> feel free to add this
[07:30] <__dan__> and I noticed the desktop now "examines" the file before it opens it, which usually only happens on network shares IIRC
[07:30] <hyper_ch> I guess it's related to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348436
[07:30] <hyper_ch> __dan__: can you put a shell script on your desktop and click it?
[07:30] <__dan__> will try
[07:31] <__dan__> yup, opens in kate
[07:31] <hyper_ch> I guess those two are related
[07:31] <__dan__> although tbh I'm not even sure what the behaviour was before
[07:31] <hyper_ch> before it run them
[07:31] <hyper_ch> I have a Start.sh file on my desktop
[07:32] <hyper_ch> when I click that, my fav. apps get run and network mounts established
[07:32] <hyper_ch> well, just added another 4 bugs
[07:32] <hyper_ch> my list of pending bugs  in 15.04 has grown to 19
[07:32] <__dan__> ahhh i see
[07:33] <hyper_ch> __dan__: because it depends whether I'm at home or work or someplace else
[07:33] <hyper_ch> so I don't want to store the session but on my needs I just click the shell script and have what I want :)
[07:33] <hyper_ch> even starting konsole with multiple tabs and server connections
[07:33] <__dan__> funny, if I click on the notification that now pops up "examining" after i double click on the shell script, it comes up with "The file desktop:/test.sh is an executable program. For safety it will not be started."
[07:34] <hyper_ch> what notification?
[07:34] <hyper_ch> when I click it, it just opens in kate - no notification
[07:34] <hyper_ch> ah, you mean the examining
[07:35] <hyper_ch> right, that's what I also get
[07:36] <hyper_ch> I think these are some serious bugs
[07:37] <__dan__> I'm just relieved Kate isn't totally broken
[07:38] <__dan__> 80% of what that machine does is Kate
[07:38] <hyper_ch> __dan__: did you report on my reports?
[07:38] <hyper_ch> what about kdevelop?
[07:38] <hyper_ch> or qtcreator?
[07:38] <__dan__> nah mate caffeine and nicotine before bug reports
[07:38] <hyper_ch> lol
[07:38] <__dan__> i dont run either of those, sorry
[07:39] <hyper_ch> btw, you also run the code map in kate, right?
[07:39] <hyper_ch> code-map-scrollbar
[07:39] <__dan__> nah but i can test it if you like
[07:39] <hyper_ch> __dan__: I find it very useful
[07:39] <hyper_ch> thought you would also :)
[07:39] <hyper_ch> or are you so good, you can write code from top to bottom without need for scrolling?
[07:40] <__dan__> haha no but a lot of the time my stuff is split into different files anyway
[07:41] <__dan__> beyond that, two finger mac-like scroll is usually enough, or CTRL-F hehe
[07:41] <hyper_ch> I really like the code map.... that's what kate sets apart from nano :)
[07:41] <__dan__> ah i love the new mercurial integration
[07:42] <__dan__> although I haven't been able to get python plugins working on KDE 5 yet
[07:42] <hyper_ch> http://kate-editor.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/MiniMap.png
[07:42] <hyper_ch> isn't mercurial dead?
[07:44] <__dan__> nah no way
[07:45] <__dan__> git is clearly more popular but i decided to go with mercurial and it's never disappointed me
[07:45] <hyper_ch> to each one his own
[07:46] <hyper_ch> I'm just a very, very basic git user
[07:47] <__dan__> i forget the specific reasons why i went with mercurial but it's very easy to use, doesn't require a server, and merges things very intelligently
[07:47] <hyper_ch> sound slike git
[07:47] <__dan__> although i have a server that integrates with redmine and shows me nice pretty diffs and graphs and stuff based on the repos
[07:47] <__dan__> ya they are basically cracking the exact same nut
[07:48] <hyper_ch> password store can also use git and that's what I make use of :)
[07:49] <__dan__> ah I use owncloud for that
[07:50] <__dan__> which is fine if a little flakey in my experience
[07:50] <hyper_ch> well, I discovered password store a little while ago and move everything in there yet.... it's very simple to use
[07:50] <hyper_ch> I use oC for my club to store pics and documents and stuff
[07:50] <hyper_ch> and also to auto-upload pics I take wiht my cell phone
[07:51] <hyper_ch> in order to use password store on my cellphone, I had to install little debian :)
[07:51] <hyper_ch> I was pondering to create an own password manager as chromium plugin
[07:51] <hyper_ch> but then I discovered password store :)
[07:52] <hyper_ch> I mean lastpass is really nice and such... but you're not in control of the data
[07:52] <__dan__> I use KeePass
[07:52] <hyper_ch> http://www.passwordstore.org/  --> bash & gpg
[07:52] <__dan__> your data is your own, supported on every platform I care about
[07:53] <hyper_ch> since it's gpg encrypted, you could sync it to github ;)
[07:53] <JoshuaFarmerK> Hello
[07:53] <hyper_ch> but the filenames and directory structures are not gpg encrypted....
[07:53] <__dan__> hi JoshuaFarmerK
[07:53] <hyper_ch> so having an entry like   Web\somepr0nsite.com  could be embarrassing
[07:54] <__dan__> ahhh yeah i see that, just looking at it now
[07:54] <JoshuaFarmerK> My country is China,We are pleased to join
[07:54] <hyper_ch> and there's a simple qtpass app :)
[07:54] <hyper_ch> hi JoshuaFarmerK
[07:54] <__dan__> ni hao from england :)
[07:54] <hyper_ch> (doesn't have multi line editing this far yet but works fine otherwise)
[07:55] <JoshuaFarmerK> I had trouble on the microcontroller, someone can help me?
[07:55] <__dan__> JoshuaFarmerK: we can try :)
[07:55] <hyper_ch> http://ijhack.nl/en/project/qtpass
[07:56] <__dan__> I just use KeePass, single file, fully encrypted, works with Linux, OSX and Android, and a bunch of others
[07:57] <JoshuaFarmerK> I use Gvim edit a C program, and then use the ISP to download to the motherboard, but the program #include <reg89.h>, reg89.h where I should be placed
[07:57] <hyper_ch> I tried keepass but just couldn't get to like it ;)
[07:58] <hyper_ch> JoshuaFarmerK: I don't really know c/++, so I can't help you
[07:59] <__dan__> JoshuaFarmerK: This channel is for support of Kubuntu - a Linux desktop operating system - you might be better off joining a channel related to C programming
[07:59] <JoshuaFarmerK> Thank you very much
[08:00] <JoshuaFarmerK> What kind of work you are doing?
[08:01] <__dan__> JoshuaFarmerK: maybe you could try ##programming or ##c
[08:01] <__dan__> not sure why the double # but i'm relatively new to freenode
[08:02] <__dan__> I'm working on my caffeine and nicotine intake, then I might go play ArmA 3 :P but I like Python :)
[08:03] <JoshuaFarmerK> You time is in the morning or at night?
[08:03] <__dan__> 09:03 here
[08:04] <hyper_ch> __dan__: don't forget to "me too" on my bug reports ;)
[08:04] <JoshuaFarmerK> You are powerful, like the Chinese martial arts
[08:05] <__dan__> not very powerful at the moment, try me again in an hour or two :P
[08:05] <__dan__> and yeah I will hyper_ch
[08:07] <JoshuaFarmerK> Are you American?
[08:07]  * __dan__ is from England
[08:08] <hyper_ch> that's sort of the same, except you have much nicer accents and you generally know how to correctly spell :)
[08:11] <JoshuaFarmerK> Nice to meet you @ Dan. Thank you for being my friend, I will be leaving the channel, because I'm off
[08:13] <__dan__> good luck with your programming JoshuaFarmerK, goodbye :)
[08:13] <Malsasa> Hello. I am currently using Kubuntu 15.04 as livehdd and it is very stable. I am satisfied. Thank you.
[08:14] <JoshuaFarmerK> Goodbye, my friend
[08:16] <__dan__> Malsasa: good to hear that :)
[08:16] <__dan__> hyper_ch: just added a comment to your kate save bug
[08:17] <Malsasa> __dan__: thank you!
[08:19] <__dan__> hyper_ch: and a quick comment on the other one too
[08:20] <hyper_ch> __dan__: thx, happy gaming
[08:20] <__dan__> hehe thx :)
[08:21] <hyper_ch> I apporve :)
[08:23] <__dan__> good good :) to be honest i would have been oblivious to both bugs if you hadn't pointed them out
[08:25] <hyper_ch> until you'd hit them ;)
[08:26] <__dan__> hehe ya
[08:30] <hyper_ch> well, I hit bug also by accident
[08:31] <hyper_ch> the kate bug I hit because I write down my reported bug in a seperate text file... if I hadn't done so, I can't tell when I'd have hit that bug
[08:46] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:58] <__dan__> morning lordievader :)
[09:58] <lordievader> o/
[09:58] <__dan__> ur not lagging i was afk
[09:59] <lordievader> I usually have a screen open with irc hilights ;)
[09:59] <__dan__> ya i got irc on a separate little netbook but was busy shooting virtual terrorists
[10:38] <mparillo> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-531
[10:39] <hyper_ch> already reported 4 bugs
[10:40] <lordievader> hyper_ch: What bugs?
[10:40] <lordievader> Nice to see 5.3.1 is pushed to backports.
[10:40] <hyper_ch> lordievader: akonadi doesn't run anymore - no kmail, kalendar, todos
[10:40] <hyper_ch> lordievader: clicking on shell scripts on the desktop opens them in kate instead of running
[10:41] <hyper_ch> lordievader: opening text files on the desktop results that you can't save them in kate
[10:41] <lordievader> Hmm... :(
[10:41] <lordievader> Some of those are painful.
[10:41] <hyper_ch> all of them are
[10:41] <hyper_ch> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348436
[10:41] <hyper_ch> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348437
[10:42] <hyper_ch> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348434
[10:42] <lordievader> Let me see if I can confirm them.
[10:42] <hyper_ch> I think the first two are somehow interlinked
[10:42] <mparillo> I can confirm the first.
[10:43] <lordievader> mparillo: Please do so in the bug report too :)
[10:43] <hyper_ch> mparillo: add "me too"
[10:46] <mparillo> Sorry that is what I meant. A "me too". I seem unable to change the status on bugs.kde.org the way I can on Launchpad.
[10:46] <mparillo> done
[10:48] <mparillo> My daughter found that, as I needed a shell script on the desktop folder view to launch the minecraft jar for her ;-)
[10:48] <hyper_ch> :)
[10:48] <lordievader> Hihi, for the first bug, here it tries to open the script with Okular.
[10:48] <hyper_ch> lordievader: you're using the bug wrong ;)
[10:49] <lordievader> hyper_ch: I did what you wrote ;)
[10:49] <hyper_ch> lordievader: send me $ 10000.-
[10:49] <hyper_ch> I'll only believe that you did what I wrote when I get that ;)
[10:49] <lordievader> Variable ' ' not declared.
[10:50] <hyper_ch> well, but it shows also for you that something isn't right
[10:51] <lordievader> Exactly. Added my comment to the bug report.
[10:51] <hyper_ch> oh, you're also from Tulip-and-wooden-shoes-land :)
[10:52] <lordievader> Correct.
[10:53] <hyper_ch> that's already two people that I know on freenode :)
[10:53] <lordievader> Two?
[10:53] <hyper_ch> you and vandenoever
[10:54] <lordievader> Hmm, not a familiar name to me.
[10:54] <hyper_ch> https://blogs.kde.org/2013/06/19/really-source-code-software
[10:57] <hyper_ch> it's a good article
[10:58] <lordievader> Yayy Gentoo :D
[10:59] <hyper_ch> sounds like you've never tried nixos
[11:00] <lordievader> Correct. But it was a stab at "Is that really the source code for this software?" (My answer would be "yes, I compiled it from that source")
[11:01] <hyper_ch> I know :)
[11:10] <lordievader> Ah I see why it opened in Okular rather than Kate. Kate wasn't installed.
[11:10] <hyper_ch> kate not installed? oO
[11:11] <lordievader> Don't judge! It was a debootstrap install. Rarely use Kate so I didn't notice ;)
[11:11] <hyper_ch> I'm not judging
[11:12] <hyper_ch> just eyeing you with suspicion
[11:12] <hyper_ch> so, Okular is the next best thing to Kate
[11:13] <hyper_ch> btw, I did update my pdf tools again today :)
[11:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:15] <hyper_ch> hi BluesKaj, already on 5.3.1?
[11:15] <BluesKaj> yup
[11:16] <hyper_ch> I already made a few bug reports and some can be confirmed ;)
[11:16] <hyper_ch> do you have to powers to set them to confirmed?
[11:16] <lordievader> hyper_ch: Okular was installed. Guess KDE thought, well next best thing. It did display the text though.
[11:16] <hyper_ch> :)
[11:17] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, well, atm I'm running 15.10, so i can't confirm
[11:17] <hyper_ch> maybe you can confirm it on 15.10 also
[11:19] <BluesKaj> which bug or bugs?
[11:19] <hyper_ch> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348436
[11:19] <hyper_ch> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348437
[11:19] <hyper_ch> and akonadi refuses to run fo rme :(
[11:20] <NotTheOnion> ayup niggas
[11:21] <BluesKaj> can't confirm the shell scipts nor that doesn't save files, both scripts I use worked and kate doers save my edited files. hyper_ch
[11:21] <hyper_ch> you're doing it wrong ;)
[11:22] <BluesKaj> NotTheOnion, speak English pls ,forget the cool homey crap talk
[11:22] <hyper_ch> he left already
[11:23] <BluesKaj> let me rephrase hyper_ch,  can't confirm the shell scripts nor that kate doesn't save files, both scripts I use worked and kate does save my edited files.
[11:23] <hyper_ch> hmmmm....  still strange
[11:24] <BluesKaj> good, idiots like that, we don't need
[11:24] <hyper_ch> the not being able to save only happens when I open files from the desktop
[11:24] <hyper_ch> opening them in kate or from dolphin works as it should
[11:24] <hyper_ch> I suspect those two bugs are related somehow
[11:25] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, uhm, then you're not using root permissions and if you try editing they won't save
[11:26] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Why would you need root rights to edit something on the desktop?
[11:26] <hyper_ch> why would I need root permissions?
[11:26] <BluesKaj> dunno lordievader why would you ?
[11:27] <BluesKaj> usually editing requires root permissions afaik , unless you open them in the file manager
[11:27] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Precisely, so why did you say that you need it? "then you're not using root permissions"
[11:28] <JunkHunk> hello I recently made a video using openshot and I use gwenview to import photos from camera...the point is that a thumbnails folder suddenly appeared in my home folder...does anybody know what is that for? why is it not in a hidden folder? or whether it is safe to delete it?
[11:28] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Editing requires write access to the file. If you are the owner you don't need root.
[11:28] <BluesKaj> you can't save edits from desktop opened scripts or files afaik
[11:29] <lordievader> If those files are yours I see no problem with opening them and editing them. (Or saving your edits for that matter)
[11:29] <lordievader> You own the files, they are yours to change.
[11:29] <BluesKaj> I don't drag text files or editable files to the desktop
[11:29] <hyper_ch> also it worked up to 5.3.0
[11:30] <hyper_ch> JunkHunk: it's save to delete... it will just speed up previews of pics
[11:30] <JunkHunk> hyper_ch,  okay...
[11:31] <__dan__> for me, that bug allows me to save only once, so it can't be permissions
[11:32] <hyper_ch> __dan__: I thought you were gaming
[11:33] <__dan__> yeah ArmA 3 was good but CSGO is still full of whiney kids
[11:33] <__dan__> although I learnt some new russian words, I think
[11:33] <hyper_ch> csgo?
[11:34] <__dan__> Counter Strike: Global Offensive
[11:35] <hyper_ch> the only think you'll ever need to know in russian is:  я хочу чтобы ты была мамой моих детей
[11:36] <__dan__> man i knew you were a hacker
[11:37] <__dan__> only hackers have those keys on their keyboard
[11:37] <hyper_ch> copy'n'paste ;)
[11:37] <hyper_ch> works wonders on utf-8 enabled systems
[11:38]  * __dan__ eyes hyper_ch nervously
[11:38] <hyper_ch> ?
[11:38] <__dan__> ufw enable
[11:38] <__dan__> woops wrong window
[11:38] <__dan__> ;)
[11:39] <hyper_ch> did you run it through google translate yet?
[11:39] <__dan__> lol nah 1 sec
[11:40] <hyper_ch> ;)
[11:41] <__dan__> hahaha i hope not :P
[11:41] <hyper_ch> the only thing you need to know in russian
[11:41] <__dan__> i wouldn't even know how to begin pronouncing that
[11:41] <hyper_ch> when you met a goodlooking russian girl, you don't need to say anything else
[11:41] <__dan__> yeah unfortunately the only russian words I've learned are bad
[11:42] <lordievader> Perhaps a move to #kubuntu-offtopic is a nice idea?
[11:42] <hyper_ch> lordievader: not really:)
[11:43] <hyper_ch> nobody else is asking for support
[11:43] <lordievader> Then I'd like to point to the guide lines.
[11:43] <__dan__> im already in there btw
[11:43] <lordievader> hyper_ch: Doesn't matter. It is offtopic for this channel.
[11:43] <__dan__> not exactly on topic
[11:43] <hyper_ch> channel topic doesn't say anything about offtopic :)
[11:45] <lordievader> No, but the guidelines do.
[11:45] <lordievader> !offtopic | hyper_ch
[11:45] <hyper_ch> well, since I use kubuntu, all questions are somehow kubuntu related
[11:46] <__dan__> he's right dude, join offtopic
[11:46] <__dan__> I have picture of official russian microphone to share with you
[11:46] <hyper_ch> I don't like offtopic channels
[11:46] <hyper_ch> time to leave this chan then
[11:47] <__dan__> wow, maybe a little overreaction?
[11:47] <hyper_ch> why, no offtopic in here
[11:47] <__dan__> *facepalm*
[11:51] <__dan__> I wonder if it's worth adding a small explanation to the bot of why the separation between support and chat is a good idea
[11:52] <__dan__> "This allows us to better focus on support queries here, and reduces the time it takes for supporters and developers to read backlogs." etc
[11:55] <Roey> HEY ALL
[11:55] <Roey> hey all *
[11:55] <Roey> sorry capslock
[11:55] <Roey> __dan__:  I just wanted to say that I think this is an excellent idea
[11:56] <Roey> __dan__:  and that this is what we did when making #kde-cafe as a chat adjunct for #kde-devel
[11:56] <__dan__> hi Roey, thanks, obviously the wording is just off the top of my head, but it might have avoided what just happened here
[11:56] <Roey> __dan__:  and it worked fabulously.
[11:56] <__dan__> ah cool maybe we can steal your wording then haha :)
[11:56] <Roey> hahaha alright, come visit #kde-cafe and check our topic ;)
[11:57] <__dan__> I've got no idea who is in charge of the bot, but thanks for the invite :)
[11:57] <Roey> sure!
[11:57] <Roey> btw the people in #kde-cafe are /so/ friendly
[11:57] <Roey> KDE devs and whatnot
[11:58] <Roey> and also, the on-topic channel for #linguistics is in ##linguistics (yeah, freenode naming rules and all I know)
[11:58] <__dan__> ah cool :) i have a lot of respect for the KDE devs, and i'm a big fan of their whole ethos
[11:58] <xennex81> I am quite comfy in 14.10 again I must say (entirely offtopic :P)
[11:58] <Roey> __dan__:  cool :)
[11:59] <Roey> Also, in ##linguistics, it says this for the topic:
[11:59] <Roey> ##linguistics :: About linguistics. Keep it civil. | Have a question? Ask and stick around.
[11:59] <Roey> it used to say "on-topic only.  Keep it together, guys"
[11:59] <__dan__> I never tried 14.10, I have 14.04 on this and my dev / storage server, a 14.04 VM on my windows box, and 15.04 on a new laptop I bought specifically for KDE 5 goodness :)
[12:00] <xennex81> I wish I could have got 14.04.2 running, but it failed...
[12:00] <xennex81> this iso at least worked
[12:01] <__dan__> I'm running that on here now, what problems did you have?
[12:02] <xennex81> I tried Ubuntu Server first. There was a mount bug that was related to FD0 being turned on in bios but not connected, as well as mounts giving problems for the CDROM/DVD itself
[12:02] <xennex81> during the install
[12:03] <xennex81> it is quite well documented or at least prevalent or visible on the internet, that bug
[12:03] <xennex81> after that I tried Kubuntu 14.04.2 and I had boot issues after installation completed.
[12:03] <xennex81> it wouldn't get past a certain point in the boot sequence, not sure at all what went wrong.
[12:04] <__dan__> hmmm how odd, never experienced that myself
[12:04] <xennex81> something seeming also to do with mounts? There was some "Starting Read ahead (.....) (other mounts)" thing that was the last message to be seen.
[12:05] <xennex81> after that I gave up and just installed 14.10 again.
[12:05] <xennex81> I would have wanted to be on LTS so at least the distro wouldn't run out on me.
[12:06] <__dan__> yeah that's why I'm on 14.04 here
[12:17] <bob> hello
[12:18] <__dan__> hi bob
[12:18] <Guest24884> I have upgrade to the latest Kubuntu, but the icon theme is not breeze like it's selected in systemsettings
[12:20] <__dan__> hmmm I wonder if it's worth going into system settings, change to a different icon set, then change back to the one you want and restarting the machine?
[12:20] <Guest24884> Cool, I have swith to breeze icon
[12:21] <Guest24884> +c
[12:21] <__dan__> another satisfied customer! haha
[12:21] <Guest24884> thx
[12:21] <Guest24884> ^^
[12:21] <__dan__> yw :)
[12:21] <Guest24884> Have a nice day
[12:21] <__dan__> you too bud thx
[12:26] <xennex81> __dan__: strange, I could not get *rid* of the Breeze Icons ;-)
[12:26] <xennex81> I had these flat icons in the system tray
[12:27] <__dan__> I don't mind the new theme at all, but I tend to live with a system for a while before I start tinkering with the visuals
[12:27] <xennex81> now these same icons are still white and grey, but they are silverly
[12:28] <BluesKaj> xennex81, the breeze theme is flat because it's differnt and suppoedly cool
[12:28] <xennex81> :)
[12:28] <xennex81> how cool :P
[12:29] <xennex81> it don't mind it being there, as long as I can not select it ;-)
[12:29] <xennex81> as long as I can make it look like 14.10
[12:29] <D322i5_>  how do you remove  this error on accessing root /root/.rvm/scripts/rvm: No such file or directory
[12:30] <xennex81> why are you accessing it D322i5_? I don't know what .rvm is
[12:30] <__dan__> D322i5_: could you be a little more specific?
[12:30] <__dan__> ruby version manager?
[12:31] <__dan__> maybe you installed RVM as your user, and not as root, therefore the root shell is trying to look for that in $HOME and failing?
[12:31]  * __dan__ is not big on ruby so isn't really sure
[12:45] <D322i5_> __dan__ :I recently uninstalled RVM (Ruby Version Manager) from ubuntu 14.04. The terminal error appeared after I finished the RVM installation. The error appears every time I launch Terminal under root permissions
[12:47] <__dan__> D322i5_: ahhh ok, it might be worth sudoing to root and having a look at your .bashrc and .profile files
[12:48] <__dan__> sounds like RVM added something that runs when you fire up bash
[12:48] <__dan__> and neglected to remove it during uninstall
[12:49] <BluesKaj> was going to suggest a purge or remove RVM*
[12:49] <BluesKaj> but he left
[12:50] <__dan__> oh yeah
[12:50] <__dan__> nvm
[13:04] <Guest3305> ciao a tutti
[13:04] <__dan__> hi
[13:05] <Guest3305> tutto ok ?
[13:06] <__dan__> sorry the only human language I understand is English
[13:06] <__dan__> and I know how to ask someone if they want to buy a donkey in Spanish
[13:08] <Guest3305> I understand, unfortunately with English are not very fast.
[13:08] <Guest3305> Anyway, I wanted to ask you about using Kubuntu as one system.
[13:09] <__dan__> ok :)
[13:09] <xennex81> I just had this weird bug, I went into system standby and when I came back (from sleep/suspend) the Flash plugin in Firefox wouldn't play youtube video's properly anymore until I logged out and back in.
[13:10] <Guest3305> Chi usa Kubuntu  come unico sistema operativo ?
[13:11] <Guest3305> #Kubuntu-it
[15:08] <xennex81> question: how can I stop firefox from loading folders of downloaded content in Gwenview :S.
[15:10] <xennex81> I seriously don't want it to use gwenview (which is pointless) but just Dolphin
[16:15] <mefisto> weird problem that started a few days ago: kde style seems to be stuck in gtk theme no matter which theme I choose in system settings, and some icons don't appear in some buttons
[17:06] <xennex81> nvidia drivers reports errors, ie. it doesn't work ;-).
[17:06] <xennex81> and deinstalling the driver requires a reboot after each component
[17:06] <xennex81> beh
[17:06] <xennex81> unworkable
[17:07] <xennex81> of course there is no driver for windows 10 so I used the windows 8 one
[17:07] <xennex81> oh wrong channel
[17:07] <xennex81> I wanted offtopic
[19:09] <KaiserA> Hey, I'm having trouble, for some reason my music players won't work, the rest of the applications that use audio do output, but amarok won't...
[19:09] <KaiserA> Any clues?
[19:12] <george_> KaiserA, I would start with the volume control in amarok. then go to amarok's settings>configure amarok> playback> configure phonon
[19:13] <george_> can you give an example of another applicatin that can use the audio. eg youtube?
[19:15] <mefisto> weird problem that started a few days ago: kde style seems to be stuck in gtk theme no matter which theme I choose in system settings, and some icons don't appear in some buttons
[19:16] <KaiserA> Youtube does work
[19:16] <KaiserA> let me check that
[20:04] <mewshi> LogicalDash:? O.o
[21:01] <kaiserA> Hello, fucked up my system here, is it possible to wire a sata to USB to get the data out of the hard drive?
[21:02] <metallic> kaiserA: do you mean connecting your hard drive, by a USB connector, to another machine?
[21:02] <kaiserA> Yeah
[21:02] <metallic> If you mean what I think you mean, yes, it is possible
[21:03] <kaiserA> Tried to use a live USB to upload the data to somewhere, but it won't let me manipulate the files
[21:03] <Dragnslcr> Sure, buy a USB hard drive enclosure
[21:03] <metallic> You can acquire it in some shop :)
[21:03] <kaiserA> Everything is closed and I need to do it before Monday
[21:04] <metallic> lol
[21:04] <Dragnslcr> But if the computer still works, a LiveCD or LiveUSB will work fine
[21:04] <metallic> Wake up soon on Monday
[21:04] <kaiserA> Tried to do that, but it doesn't let me copy the files to anything
[21:04] <kaiserA> Didn't let me compress them, copy them, nothing
[21:04] <Dragnslcr> Well, you would someplace to copy them
[21:04] <Dragnslcr> Can you mount the hard drive?
[21:06] <kaiserA> Give me a sec, I'll boot it up again though the USB
[21:07] <kaiserA> And by a sec I meant a while, God it's slow
[21:10] <metallic> Does someone use here Konqueror for browsing the web? In my computer it randomly freezes sometimes :/
[21:10] <metallic> if I wait long enough it will eventually come back to "life"
[21:11] <metallic> but it is kind of annoying. Does someone else suffer this?
[21:32] <kaiserA>  Fast forward a while got the files out and I'm reinstalling the OS
[21:33] <kaiserA> I made an extra partition to install windows onto, I should leave it without a mounting point, right?
[21:34] <metallic> yes
[21:35] <metallic> Window's partitions are formatted as NTFS, in case you forgot :/
[21:35] <kaiserA> I do know that, it's not like I have used it for years
[21:36] <metallic> :>
[21:36] <kaiserA> 25 BG should suffy for when I plonk w7 in there right?
[21:36] <kaiserA> Gb
[21:37] <kaiserA> Bloddy autocorrector
[21:37] <metallic> Don't know, I have not used windows for a very long time
[21:38] <metallic> :/
[21:38] <kaiserA> Nor have I, I'm just leaving it there in the occasion I need it
[21:40] <metallic> No need for Windows :>
[21:58] <Etriaph> Does anyone know how to reset a kdetalk.net password?
[22:05] <valorie> Etriaph: at the bottom of https://kdetalk.net/ it says: If you encounter problems, or simply have questions, you can send a mail to sysadmin@kde.org
[22:05] <Etriaph> Ya, I sent the email, just thought there may be a password recovery for it through KDE Identity or something.
[22:05] <valorie> dunno
[22:26] <RamboJunior> Hi All
[22:27] <RamboJunior> Can I get some help about my teamviewer icon is missing, after install it is loading and everything but no icon comes up in notification
[22:28] <valorie> RamboJunior: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[22:28] <valorie> in short: teamviewer needs to join the 21st century
[22:30] <RamboJunior> just checkin the link just a secound
[22:31] <RamboJunior> but i other words theres no way to get an icon next to clock?
[22:32] <valorie> well, adding sni-qt or so helped
[22:32] <valorie> !info sni-qt
[22:33] <valorie> but if they don't put in modern icons, it is hard to display them without using old broken stuff
[22:33] <valorie> that said, if it is really important, you can install the old broken whatever-it-is
[22:35] <RamboJunior> thank you, i will give it a shot, unfortunately I'm a new user of linux
[22:36] <RamboJunior> Do you think, this "issue" is the same with version 14.04?
[22:39] <valorie> no, this is a Plasma 5 issue
[22:39] <valorie> 14.04 is still KDE4
[22:40] <valorie> I assume that if someone (you?) files a bug with teamviewer
[22:40] <valorie> they will make the necessary changes
[22:41] <RamboJunior> Al right, thanks , yeah I will give them a heads up :)
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[22:42] <RamboJunior> thank you very much for your help Valorie
[22:44] <valorie> isn't spam lovely
[22:44] <valorie> who would have thought that it would haunt us in IRC too
[22:45] <bprompt> you mean, you didn't click eagerly and repeatedly on that link for a free SEO?  ohh man, you're losing big savings
[22:46] <RamboJunior> gonna check IRC as well
[22:46] <valorie> heh
[22:54] <f10> the vertical space for the title bar of breeze window decoration is much bigger in kubuntu than on my debian machine even though i set buttons to "small"... it's still huge, any idea how to fix this?
[23:19] <nfk> f10, a screenshot would be helpful as well as if you have a high DPI display
[23:31] <austin6598> what is the root password for tty1?
[23:33] <Etriaph> 5.3.1 fixed the Swing issue, that's happy.
[23:34] <austin6598> what is the root password for tty1?
[23:34] <Etriaph> austin6598: The root password is the same for every console.
[23:34] <austin6598> what is it? sorry im new to linux
[23:35] <Etriaph> austin6598: There's no default.  You can set it by sudoing to root.
[23:35] <austin6598> what is the command for that?
[23:35] <Etriaph> austin6598: Do: sudo -i
[23:35] <Etriaph> austin6598: It'll ask for your account password
[23:36] <Etriaph> austin6598: If you're not on the sudoers list you won't be able to sudo to root.
[23:37] <austin6598> sudo -i
[23:37] <austin6598> password:
[23:37] <austin6598> password incorrect
[23:37] <Etriaph> austin6598: Did you install Kubuntu yourself?
[23:37] <austin6598> yes
[23:38] <austin6598> i did ctrl alt f1 to get to tty1
[23:38] <Etriaph> austin6598: Then the user account you created when the system was intsalled should be on the sudoers list; when you do: sudo -i the password it asks you for is *your* password
[23:39] <Etriaph> austin6598: Login as your account on tty1 then sudo at the command prompt
[23:39] <austin6598> i am already logged in
[23:39] <austin6598> i just want to use tty1 as root
[23:39] <Etriaph> austin6598: I understand, but you have to change root's password first.
[23:39] <austin6598> ok how
[23:39] <Etriaph> austin6598: For that you need to sudo to root or run passwd through sudo
[23:40] <nfk> austin6598, why would you want to do that? is there some problem?
[23:40] <nfk> i hope you're not trying to install nvidia driver that way
[23:40] <austin6598> plasma crashed and i need to relaunch it
[23:40] <nfk> muahaha
[23:40] <austin6598> ok i typed in my username and logged into my account through ttty1
[23:40] <nfk> root ash nothing to do with that
[23:41] <nfk> *has
[23:41] <austin6598> what is the command to start kde plasma?
[23:42] <nfk> i'm pretty sure with plasma 2 it should relaunch itself automatically, if not, try alt+f2 and if it shows a prompt on the upper part of your presumably black screen try log out or leave (and if it's localized, in your local language)
[23:42] <nfk> austin6598, log out and log back in, or just kill -u `whoami` from tty1 (but not as root)
[23:42] <austin6598> there is no way to just relaunch it?
[23:42] <nfk> sorry
[23:43] <nfk> my bad' killall -u `whoami`
[23:43] <austin6598> alt f2 shows the search
[23:43] <nfk> austin6598, it should relaunch automatically
[23:43] <Etriaph> Hit Alt-F2 and type: plasmashell
[23:43] <bprompt> austin6598:     check alt-f7
[23:43] <austin6598> can i paste in tty1?
[23:43] <nfk> if not, i'd just log out/kill all processes for that user and log in once more
[23:43] <nfk> austin6598, yes and no
[23:44] <austin6598> Etriaph> thanks that worked
[23:44] <nfk> austin6598, are you really a noob? you sound awful well verced in this stuff
[23:44] <austin6598> well i was using opensuse
[23:44] <austin6598> just got kubuntu
[23:44] <austin6598> im sort of experienced
[23:44] <austin6598> im only 16, use windows a lot
[23:44] <nfk> sounds more like a troll to me
[23:44] <nfk> whatever
[23:44] <austin6598> oh
[23:44] <austin6598> sorry
[23:44] <bprompt> opensuse with kde?
[23:45] <austin6598> yes, now i am transferring everything over to kubuntu
[23:45] <bprompt> for kde is kde, regardless of the distribution
[23:45] <Etriaph> nfk: Please try to be polite, everyone starts somewhere.
[23:45] <austin6598> expect to see me here a lot in the future. not a troll, just an idiot
[23:46] <nfk> Etriaph, sadly i have seen my share of trolls and quite a few will act like noobs
[23:47] <bprompt> austin6598:    "Don't let life discourage you; everyone who got where he is had to begin where he was."   ~~Richard L. Evans~~
[23:47] <austin6598> :D
[23:47] <Etriaph> nfk: I understand your motivation, but giving someone the benefit of the doubt is more of an accepting stance when someone is new to the community.
[23:49] <nfk> yeah, i try to keep that in mind IRL (though it's sometimes extremely hard to do that) but internet is a bit of a wild west be them social networks or irc
[23:49] <Etriaph> I've been using Linux for more than 15 years, when I started I had to use startx to get a GUI
[23:50] <Etriaph> KDE 1 baby haha
[23:50] <nfk> no way
[23:50] <nfk> are you sure it was just 15 years ago?
[23:50] <Etriaph> Well, 1999
[23:50] <Etriaph> Or 98 maybe?
[23:50] <nfk> i first experienced kde like 13 years ago and it was 3.2 or 3.3 already
[23:50] <Etriaph> Nah
[23:51] <bprompt> same here
[23:51] <nfk> same what?
[23:51] <bprompt> I had... hmmm kde 3.0 I think, way back then
[23:51] <Etriaph> Ah, I guess it was
[23:51] <bprompt> around 99 or so
[23:51] <Etriaph> Holy crap
[23:51] <Etriaph> 2002
[23:51] <austin6598> is there any way to copy and paste a panel keeping all the widgets. i want 2 since i have 2 monitors
[23:52] <Etriaph> I was running KDE on RedHat 5.0
[23:52] <Etriaph> In 98/99ish
[23:52] <bprompt> hell, I was running slackware off a floppy :P
[23:52] <nfk> austin6598, you can probably do it manually by editing some files when KDE is  not running but i'd refreain from that and just create a new pannel on the other screen
[23:52] <Etriaph> austin6598: Creating a panel and adding stuff to it takes just a few minutes.
[23:53] <nfk> did you really customise it that bdly that you can't recreate it within minutes?
[23:53] <Etriaph> bprompt: Now that's a dated scene :D
[23:53] <nfk> my desktop is probably one of a kind worldwide yet it woud take like 2 or 3 minutes to set up from default install
[23:53] <Etriaph> bprompt: I was running an eggdrop bot off of my P90; 16Mb RAM and 2.1Gb HDD
[23:54] <austin6598> plasma keeps crashing
[23:54] <bprompt> used to run mandrake 7  and SuSE 9.2 on a dual boot, and win98 on a 3rd partition
[23:54] <Etriaph> austin6598: Have you updated your insall yet?
[23:54] <austin6598> yes
[23:54] <austin6598> i installed google chrome, synergy, and a few widgets
[23:54] <Etriaph> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-applications-15041-available-kubuntu-1504
[23:54] <austin6598> fully system updated
[23:55] <Etriaph> You'll want to add that repo.
[23:55] <Etriaph> It stabilizes a lot of things.
[23:55] <nfk> bprompt, i did my debian or was it freebsd(?) installs with 3 floppies just some 10 years ago
[23:55] <nfk> yep, i probably got my first dvd-rw back in 2005 or somesuch and till then i had only floppies, iirc
[23:56] <Etriaph> nfk: Used to make a floppy for FTP install
[23:56] <Etriaph> Slow.........
[23:56] <bprompt> must have been freebsd if any, 10 years ago, that was more than 10 floppies, more like ...  let's see 2005.. more like one or maybe 2 cds, 1 cd for install and 2 for optional apps
[23:56] <nfk> yeah, my net was fairly slow back then as well
[23:56] <nfk> something like 10 or 20 Mbps
[23:56] <bprompt> floppies install tis more  like 20years ago
[23:56] <nfk> nowadays that's a slow torrent :D
[23:57] <Etriaph> Ya, I like my 50Mbps
[23:57] <nfk> bprompt, netinstall naturally
[23:57] <bprompt> hmm
[23:57] <Etriaph> bprompt: Ya, I installed RPMs via the RedHat FTP repository.
[23:57] <nfk> it sometimes took multiple attempts to contact the bsd/debian server in the neighbouring contry too
[23:58] <Etriaph> One... package... at... a... time
[23:58] <nfk> Etriaph, when i started with linux i had no net at all, so it was 0 packages per year
[23:58] <Etriaph> nfk: That's some time ago.  :D
[23:59] <nfk> and it as some mandrake 9.x so it was basically partically broken at all times
[23:59] <austin6598> is it possible to re order the icons in the system tray?
[23:59] <Etriaph> austin6598: Not that I know of.
[23:59] <nfk> Etriaph, not that much really, i got 54k cable via proxy about 11 years ago
[23:59] <nfk> then it went decent half a year or a year later
[23:59] <bprompt> Etriaph:     my suse 9.2 I bought the dvd, came with a heapload of apps in it, so pretty much its own repository... and now and then, I still hop around at www.rpmseek.com    <-- they do rpms as well as debs
[23:59] <austin6598> is there an easy way to get a list of all my widgets on opensuse kde 4?