[20:07] <cprofitt> anyone have experience with openshells for a shell account?
[20:19] <holstein> i used freeshell.de
[20:20] <Unit193> cprofitt: You asking in terms of then fielding abuse reports?
[20:23] <cprofitt> anything like that yes... I am debating using them for a shell account vs. vps.
[20:24] <holstein> i have a digital ocean droplet.. its $5 US/month..
[20:24] <holstein> thats what i use now, instead of a shell account.. though, it is nice to have someone else maintaining it..
[20:26]  * cprofitt nods
[20:26] <cprofitt> the other option is digital ocean
[20:27] <cprofitt> all it is for is running irssi outside of my personal network
[20:27] <holstein> well, one of many options.. just depends on what meets the need
[20:27]  * cprofitt nods
[20:27] <cprofitt> so you like digitalocean?
[20:28] <holstein> works as advertised.. i dont need it for irssi running in screen.. freeshell.de was just fine for that, and for free
[20:28] <holstein> nothing wrong with digital ocean.. if you need more, and more control.. etc
[20:29]  * cprofitt nods
[20:29] <cprofitt> I might start with a free shell account then and move over to DO when ready
[20:29] <holstein> personally,  if i were going to pay *anything* for a shell account, i would just get a DO droplet
[20:29] <Unit193> In theory more secure.  Speaking of secure you may want to ident to services.
[20:30] <Unit193> https://freenode.net/sasl/sasl-irssi.shtml
[20:31] <Unit193> Thanks. ;)
[20:31] <Unit193> Also, the version and packages are totally up to you with a VPS.
[20:32] <holstein> more control.. though, it was nice to just have freeshell taking care of that.. though, im assuming its "up to date"..
[20:33] <Unit193> My Irssi is v0.8.17 plus the splitline commit.
[20:33]  * cprofitt nods
[20:33] <cprofitt> yes, controlling the version would be nice.
[21:06] <hggdh> if it helps any, Digital Ocean is -- as holstein points out -- quite cheap. I have been using it for IRC almost since they started.
[21:08] <hggdh> maintaining the kernel is a bit more involved, they do not update as fast as we put kernels out. And, as in most other places you really want to run fail2ban.
[21:58]  * cprofitt nods to hggdh 
[21:59]  * hggdh nods back to cprofitt