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| robin-hero | hi all! I would like to try the devel-proposed channel in the emualor. But in the tutorial, when it shows how to open the launcher, I can't open it with swipe. So I can't use the pohne. Any idea? | 09:13 |
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| SturmFlut | robin-hero: In the emulator? You should be able to "imitate" the swipe by dragging with the mouse I think | 09:30 |
| robin-hero | SturmFlut: Yes, I know, I used emulator many times :D But it is not working with devel-proposed now :) | 09:31 |
| SturmFlut | robin-hero: Ah, sorry. | 09:31 |
| SturmFlut | robin-hero: That sounds like a bug then :/ | 09:32 |
| robin-hero | Yeah, I think that too | 09:33 |
| SturmFlut | robin-hero: I haven't seen any related bug reports over the last week I think | 09:34 |
| robin-hero | I am just testing on another machine, just to be sure. :) | 09:35 |
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| lotuspsychje | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Here-s-What-s-New-in-Ubuntu-Touch-OTA-4-Update-482755.shtml | 11:55 |
| OerHeks | .. and much more :-D | 11:58 |
| lotuspsychje | looks nice to me :p | 11:58 |
| lotuspsychje | hopefully scopes lag at boot will dissapear | 11:59 |
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| hallucy | good morning folks. is there a way to enable the mouse cursor? | 13:26 |
| hallucy | err, to make the mouse cursor visible. i have a microsoft usb mouse plugged in. it is detected and working, just invisible. even in Window mode | 13:29 |
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| cprofitt | hello all... | 14:42 |
| cprofitt | just curious what devices currently run Ubuntu Touch -- will the Nexus 9 work? | 14:42 |
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| OerHeks | cprofitt, i don't see it on this list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 14:46 |
| cprofitt | Yeah, that is why I was asking... | 14:47 |
| cprofitt | the N7 and N10 are not longer available. | 14:47 |
| cprofitt | in the states we don't have access to the BQ stuff (yet) | 14:47 |
| OerHeks | That bq 4.5 is EU only, afaik | 14:48 |
| * cprofitt nods | 14:48 | |
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| JanC | cprofitt: maybe the Chinese Ubuntu phone will have a US version | 16:28 |
| popey | there's no plan for the Meizu MX4 in the US that I know of. | 16:29 |
| JanC | AFAIK the bq phone radio doesn't support US frequencies | 16:29 |
| JanC | oh | 16:30 |
| JanC | so the MX4 won't support US frequencies either? | 16:30 |
| JanC | popey: ^^^ | 16:31 |
| ogra_ | who made you think that ? | 16:34 |
| ogra_ | (or what) | 16:34 |
| JanC | ogra_: think what? | 16:35 |
| ogra_ | that the MX4 doesnt support US freqs | 16:35 |
| popey | I'm just saying I don't think there's plans to _sell_ the device in the US. | 16:37 |
| popey | it may well work fine over there | 16:37 |
| JanC | I was asking if that was the reason | 16:37 |
| ogra_ | it definitely works fine in the US | 16:37 |
| JanC | so that's better than the bq (supposedly) not working (everywhere) in the US, I guess? | 16:39 |
| popey | it works | 16:40 |
| popey | just not 3g | 16:40 |
| ogra_ | well, the bq work ... but max at 2g | 16:40 |
| JanC | ah | 16:40 |
| ogra_ | not fun if you actually have a data SIM ... | 16:40 |
| ogra_ | okayish if you travel and use WLAN for data anyway ... | 16:40 |
| ogra_ | though kind of defeats the purpose of having a second sim slot :) | 16:40 |
| JanC | IIRC some bq FAQ stated frequency issues for not selling in the US | 16:41 |
| JanC | but that might refer to 3G/data | 16:42 |
| OerHeks | bq does 3g too | 16:42 |
| popey | yes, the 3g frequencies are different | 16:42 |
| JanC | OerHeks: in Europe | 16:42 |
| popey | silly USA | 16:42 |
| OerHeks | and Quad-Band 850/900/1800/1900, so USA should be covered? | 16:42 |
| popey | for calls, yes | 16:43 |
| popey | but not 3g | 16:43 |
| OerHeks | oh oke, that is the issue. | 16:43 |
| JanC | ogra_: second SIM slot can be useful for travelling inside Europe too? :) | 16:48 |
| OerHeks | I was waiting for that meizu, 'till i found out it has no sdcard slot | 16:48 |
| JanC | Europe & other places using the same frequencies | 16:49 |
| JanC | e.g. in the ME & Africa AFAIK | 16:50 |
| cprofitt | JanC: I hope so... keep waiting for an announcement. | 16:59 |
| JanC | cprofitt: or convince a US mobile phone company to sell an Ubuntu phone :) | 17:04 |
| popey | AIUI that's in progress | 17:05 |
| JanC | or maybe System 76 or the like can be convinced to do so | 17:05 |
| popey | that's even harder | 17:07 |
| popey | much easier to get people who have experience of manufacturing phones to make them | 17:07 |
| cprofitt | JanC: I ask every trip to my AT&T store when they are planning on getting one. | 17:07 |
| JanC | well, they could resell phones | 17:07 |
| JanC | popey: most "mobile phone brands" are resellers, right? | 17:08 |
| popey | but someone needs to do the hardware enablement | 17:09 |
| popey | and recognised brands are easier to sell than new entrants | 17:09 |
| JanC | Meizu & bq are hardly "well-known" | 17:10 |
| popey | they are in their home turf | 17:12 |
| popey | my point is system76 are unknown in phone markets _anywhere_ | 17:13 |
| JanC | which shouldn't be a huge problem for a developer phone? | 17:14 |
| JanC | also, when Medion, Acer, Asus, etc. sold their first smartphones, they had no experience either | 17:15 |
| popey | all of whom are orders of magnitude larger than system76 | 17:18 |
| JanC | but is bq much larger than System 76? | 17:19 |
| JanC | I doubt so... | 17:19 |
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| popey | hard to know, system76 revenue is private | 17:20 |
| popey | bq has over 900 employees | 17:20 |
| popey | system76 is _way_ smaller as a company | 17:20 |
| cprofitt | system76 is just a re-badger and re-seller... and are very small. | 17:21 |
| cprofitt | great people though. | 17:21 |
| popey | sure. I'm not being negative about system76 | 17:21 |
| JanC | so they could re-badge bq or Meizu phones | 17:22 |
| popey | makes no sense | 17:22 |
| popey | there's already precious little margin on devices | 17:22 |
| cprofitt | JanC: they could, but the issue in the US is getting carrier support | 17:22 |
| JanC | cprofitt: ugh | 17:22 |
| cprofitt | it is a tougher nut to crack than the EU due to all the subsidies | 17:22 |
| popey | thats becoming less of an issue | 17:23 |
| popey | for "indie" handsets | 17:23 |
| cprofitt | I am positive that the major carriers make money off of the phones despite the subsidies... | 17:23 |
| popey | some companies sell direct - like OnePlus and Oppo | 17:23 |
| popey | I expect we'd do the same initially | 17:23 |
| cprofitt | popey: for sure... there is a growing sub-set of people demanding unlocked unsubsidies phones | 17:23 |
| popey | yeah | 17:23 |
| JanC | you mean they lock out phones? | 17:24 |
| cprofitt | some of the smaller 're-sellers' of carrier service are pushing that too. | 17:24 |
| popey | JanC: no, many people in the US buy handsets which are subsidised by the network | 17:24 |
| popey | same as in europe | 17:24 |
| cprofitt | JanC: when you guys an AT&T phone you can't take it to Verizon (usually) | 17:24 |
| popey | but in the US it's way more common | 17:24 |
| cprofitt | I would say 90-95% buy subidies phones unless they are on month-to-month or pay-as-you-go plans | 17:25 |
| cprofitt | two year contracts are the norm. | 17:25 |
| JanC | right, but a non-subsidised phone should still work right? | 17:25 |
| popey | thats pretty common in the uk too | 17:25 |
| popey | right | 17:25 |
| popey | but people are locked into contracts | 17:25 |
| cprofitt | JanC: only if the carrier is willing to accept it. | 17:25 |
| popey | or of the mindset that it's the normal way, to buy locked phones | 17:25 |
| cprofitt | the Nexus 4 I have only works with AT&T or T-Mobile | 17:25 |
| popey | cprofitt: you have sim-only deals though? | 17:26 |
| cprofitt | and I get a lower tier of service because it was not branded by either | 17:26 |
| JanC | WTF? | 17:26 |
| cprofitt | T-Mobile would not allow voice calls over IP unless you had their branded Nexus 4 | 17:26 |
| lotuspsychje | i hear the dont sell nexus7 anymore | 17:26 |
| cprofitt | correct -- US is all Nexus 6 or Nexus 9 right now. | 17:27 |
| popey | shame, the nexus 5 was a decent device | 17:27 |
| lotuspsychje | does touch run on 6 or 9 yet? | 17:27 |
| popey | the churn on devices is very high | 17:27 |
| popey | no | 17:27 |
| popey | touch needs porting to android L | 17:27 |
| lotuspsychje | so no tablets anymore for ubuntu touch? | 17:27 |
| ice9 | is it mandatory to build/port touch on Ubuntu system? | 17:28 |
| popey | lotuspsychje: nexus 7 2013 and nexus 10 both work | 17:28 |
| popey | lotuspsychje: we'll have to move to Android L at some point | 17:29 |
| lotuspsychje | popey: ah nexus10 works smooth as 7? | 17:29 |
| popey | and when we do that'll make porting to those devices easier, but someone still needs to do the work | 17:29 |
| JanC | I understand subsidized devices to be locked to the subsidizer until you pay them off, but everything beyond that sounds like a racketeering scheme really... | 17:29 |
| popey | neither are perfect | 17:29 |
| popey | JanC: welcome to the mobile phone business for the last 20 years | 17:29 |
| lotuspsychje | popey: well i cant complain on 7, working pretty flawless to me | 17:29 |
| JanC | popey: not over here :) | 17:29 |
| popey | unfortimately it needs more love | 17:29 |
| lotuspsychje | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Here-s-What-s-New-in-Ubuntu-Touch-OTA-4-Update-482755.shtml | 17:30 |
| popey | JanC: it's not _that_ different | 17:30 |
| JanC | popey: here it's illegal for mobile phone providers to lock SIMs after you paid for the full contract, which can be at most worth 1 or 2 years of subscription IIRC | 17:35 |
| popey | same in most places | 17:35 |
| popey | you can get the lock off when the contract ends | 17:35 |
| popey | which is reasonable. | 17:35 |
| JanC | and it's illegal to sell a phone combined with a contract if it isn't also available separately | 17:37 |
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| chetan | Hi, I have a ubuntu touch on nexus tablet and I am trying to run my .sh file but it says permission denied. I have used chmod +x for execute permission but still the same problem. | 20:31 |
| SturmFlut | New post: http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/05/30/my-favourite-ubuntu-touch-apps-may-2015/ | 20:39 |
| SturmFlut | If you want to be on next months list, I am open for "donations" ;) | 20:40 |
| SturmFlut | Oh wow: https://plus.google.com/101402903185277489519/posts/Sr37GBA8ZcR can anybody confirm? | 20:49 |
| popey | oooh | 20:55 |
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| torontoyes | Anyone have ubuntu installed on Galaxy note 3? | 22:27 |
| torontoyes | Is there an image that works well with Galaxy note 3? | 22:39 |
| popey | !devices | torontoyes | 22:39 |
| ubot5 | torontoyes: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 22:39 |
| torontoyes | popey, I looked, but I did not see an image for Note 3. | 22:40 |
| torontoyes | I guess I'm "SOL" | 22:47 |
| zerwas | Is it possible to install Ubuntu on a standard Android Meizu MX4? | 22:49 |
| torontoyes | So.. there are no images for Galaxy Note 3? n900t | 22:54 |
| popey | torontoyes: thats exactly why I gave you that link | 22:59 |
| popey | if there is no image there, that's your answer | 22:59 |
| torontoyes | Sad. | 22:59 |
| torontoyes | Fortunately, I do have an htc one.. woo hoo. | 22:59 |
| torontoyes | lol | 23:00 |
| torontoyes | popey, whats the reasoning for that? I have not been following the progress of this. | 23:01 |
| popey | because nobody has ported it | 23:01 |
| popey | zerwas: depends, read this https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg12956.html | 23:01 |
| zerwas | popey: Thank you for the link. That's too bad. | 23:04 |
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