[01:55] <trippeh> [7341824.537568] ifquery[183]: segfault at 1 ip 00000000004031c8 sp 00007ffc76037c10 error 4 in ifup[400000+d000]
[01:55] <trippeh> oops ? :-)
[01:55] <trippeh> every boot. interesting.
[09:28] <apw> trippeh, looks like a bug in ifquery/ifup to me worth a bug i am sure
[09:31]  * ogra_ sighs ... when did we silently switch to intel_pstate ?
[09:32] <ogra_> totally trashed my update to vivid (cores switching to 133 MHz while the system is under full load, core temps constantly between 85 and 90°C )
[10:10]  * ogra_ files bug 1460399
[11:49] <apw> ogra_, do you have thermald installed as i believe that is meant to be programming those behaviours
[11:51] <ogra_> apw, dumping to 166 ot 133MHz is a thermald thing ? 
[11:51] <ogra_> *or
[11:51] <ogra_> (under full load)
[11:52] <ogra_> it stopped doing that when i switched back to ondemand ... 
[11:52] <trippeh> probably pstate enables the turbo states, making it run too hot for your cooling and crashing into thermal throttling
[11:54] <ogra_> well, the point is that it didnt manage to get the heat low enough and the BIOS emergency shutdown kicked in every 10-15min
[11:55] <ogra_> the system behaves properly after switching back to cpufreq
[11:55] <ogra_> (without making any other changes)
[11:56] <apw> trippeh, thermald does indeed allow turbo and other things, it should of course also not make your machine explode too
[11:56] <apw> ogra_, using pstat_idle is the recommneded option on these pieces of h/w so i am supprised of your experience
[11:56] <apw> ogra_, anyhow i've added cking to the thing becuase he did all the work on that back in the day
[11:57] <apw> (recommended by Intel, ...)
[11:57] <trippeh> inte_pstate has been working fine on my hardware, fwiw :)
[11:57] <ogra_> well, it diidnt help that i wasted 3h into trying to find out why X was so slow ... debugging graphics stuff :P the system really felt like i'm running something even sub-vesa ... 
[11:57] <trippeh> even the tiny cooling challenged ultrabooks
[11:58] <ogra_> currently i'm fine ... once someone wants to debug it during the week i'm happy to collect data 
[11:59] <ogra_> after all it got me to clean up 100 of my 150 constantly open firefox tabs ... so it had it's good sides ;) 
[12:02] <apw> ogra_, yeah i'll poke cking monday and see what he thinks
[12:03] <ogra_> i only found an older bug from infinity who seemed to have the same issue but in another release 
[12:03] <apw> trippeh, yeah same here, i have a shitey ulrabook [sic] and it is also fine
[12:03] <ogra_> bug 1188647
[12:03] <apw> ogra_, yeah and that was before we had thermald paired with it, the kernel bits are useless without hte daemon, and it wasnt packaged then
[12:04] <ogra_> ah
[12:04] <ogra_> thermald is quite noisy in syslog btw 
[12:04] <apw> which is why i was trying to find out if you have thermald installed and if when in pstate it was running because that is mean to be "the way it works"
[12:04] <apw> yeah we ought to look at that, much of that thermal stuff is whiney
[12:04] <ogra_> yeah, i noticed :)
[12:05] <apw> if you could add your thermald logs for the bad period (if you cna identify them) they may be valuable
[12:05] <ogra_> i'll look them up 
[12:18] <apw> thanks
[17:53] <bigdissaved>  Morning, I am wondering what how I can recomend a kernel driver be added to the dist? It is for the rtl8812AU AC 1200 wireless chip. I have it working on my system, but it is very anoying that I have to recompile and install it every kernel/system update. It is in my garage, and wifi is the only connection that it has.
[17:53] <bigdissaved> https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux  this is the source code tree that I am using, and it works flawlesly for my self with 15.04 and 14.04.2