[00:01] <kdax> Hi, can u tell me in which folder i can find installed applications, im looking for the pidgin direction?
[00:02] <MonkeyDust> kdax  /usr/bin/ and /usr/share/applications
[00:03] <kdax> MonkeyDust thx
[00:03] <OerHeks> "which pidgin"
[00:03] <kdax> im running lxle i don't really know which version
[00:04] <OerHeks> cat /etc/issues
[00:04] <Bashing-om> kdax: Documentation ? Try ' ls -al /usr/share/doc/pidgin ' . Maybe ?
[00:04] <DalekSec> !derivatives | kdax
[00:05] <OerHeks> lubuntu is oke, although they have a channel too
[00:05] <DalekSec> OerHeks: LXLE != Lubuntu.
[00:05] <kdax> Ok, thx for that information im a newbie
[00:06] <Bashing-om> kdax: All of us were 'newbie' at one time. Hang in here, you will be good .
[00:12] <kdax> Bashing-om total 88
[00:12] <kdax> drwxr-xr-x    2 root root  4096 Feb 12 04:26 .
[00:12] <kdax> drwxr-xr-x 1667 root root 65536 Mai 31 01:52 ..
[00:12] <kdax> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root root    33 Jan  1  2002 changelog.Debian.gz -> ../libpurple0/changelog.Debian.gz
[00:12] <kdax> -rw-r--r--    1 root root 15009 Okt 27  2014 copyright
[00:12] <kdax> kdax@kdax-Compaq-Mini:~$
[00:14] <kdax> I just need to find the folder to install https://code.google.com/p/pidgin-opensteamworks/
[00:18] <Bashing-om> kdax: I do not run steam, so mot much I can help with .
[00:21] <kdax> Bashing-om ok.;)
[00:23] <gill6150> I can't get my date & time to change....
[00:23] <Claudio_36_> dddd
[00:25] <abhimanyu> anyone online ?'
[00:25] <darthanubis> always
[00:25] <abhimanyu> :)
[00:25] <gill6150> Need some help. Feel dumb for asking though..
[00:25] <darthanubis> !ask
[00:25] <gill6150> !ask
[00:26] <gill6150> okay, I can't get my date & time to change? & I can't get steam to run any games.
[00:26] <abhimanyu> which is the best web development IDE for ubuntu? Like we have for windows & mac Dreamweaver
[00:27] <darthanubis> !rate
[00:28] <darthanubis> !best
[00:28] <darthanubis> !poll
[00:28] <bazhang> darthanubis, /msg ubottu
[00:28] <bazhang> !ide | abhimanyu
[00:29] <bazhang> abhimanyu, no best, try them see what suits you
[00:29] <darthanubis> bazhang, how do I do that?
[00:29] <bazhang> darthanubis, /msg ubottu factoid
[00:29] <bazhang> darthanubis, same as PM any other user
[00:29] <abhimanyu> thanks ubolttu i have used few of them but still the list you send has few which i haven't used :)
[00:30] <darthanubis> thanks
[00:31] <gill6150> Any ideas?
[00:32] <bazhang> !steam | gill6150
[00:32] <darthanubis> bazhang, cmds get deleted?
[00:32] <gill6150> Alright, Thank you very much!
[00:32] <bazhang>  /join #ubuntu-steam gill6150
[00:32] <bazhang> darthanubis, they get pruned on occasion, yes
[00:32] <darthanubis> ah
[00:33] <darthanubis> my issue with ubuntu on this machine was hardware
[00:33] <darthanubis> failing pny ram sticks
[00:34] <darthanubis> I'm glad I found out
[00:34] <techsilo> !patience
[00:51] <pantato> anyone know how to make the nvidia-settings to stick on ubuntu 14.x ?
[00:52] <Bashing-om> pantato: What setting are you referring to ?
[00:53] <pantato> resolution, monitor positioning, underscan, hertz
[00:54] <pantato> the only thing i can get to stick is the underscan setting for one of the monitors.
[00:56] <Bashing-om> pantato: Did the Nvidia installer make up a config file ? What results ' ls -al /etc/X11/xorg.conf ' ?
[00:57] <pantato> Bashing-om: I made one from the nvidia-settings gui. There doesn't seem to be an xorg.conf in that folder by default
[00:57] <pantato> I don't think it's relevant in 14.10 anymore
[00:57] <pantato> or something is changed
[00:59] <Bashing-om> pantato: Nother plade to look for config files ' /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ' .
[01:00] <OerHeks> nvidia settings has a button in X server display configuration
[01:00] <Bashing-om> place*
[01:00] <OerHeks> To write a xorg.conf*
[01:01] <OerHeks> (you'll get a preview)
[01:03] <pantato> Yes, I did that. Also, for 14.10 it's in /user/share/X11/xord.conf.d
[01:03] <pantato> i tried putting xorg.conf generated from the nvidia-settins in there as well -- still no luck
[01:06] <Bashing-om> pantato: Maybe create a new X conf file: 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' see if that helps ??
[01:06] <pantato> tried that as well
[01:08] <pantato> Bashing-om: do you use the nvidia drivers?
[01:10] <Bashing-om> pantato: I have not used Nvidia in a year or so ; We upscaled that box .
[01:39] <Voyage_> I want performance at the cost of beauty in Kubuntu. What are my ways?
[01:46] <m1k3> hi
[01:49] <tanuki> How do I install Ubuntu without installing all the cruft that gets autoinstalled?
[01:49] <Bashing-om> Voyage_: Fast without hardware upgrade is no frills, and no frills is not kubuntu .
[01:49] <tanuki> For instance, I don't need an office suite, I don't need Amazon, etc
[01:49] <gill6150> Still can't get steam to run any games..
[01:50] <Bashing-om> !minimal | tanuki A leaning curve:
[01:50] <m1k3> maybe its your sytem
[01:50] <gill6150> What do you mean my system?
[01:51] <m1k3> incompatablity
[01:51] <m1k3> maybe you need drivers
[01:51] <Voyage_> Bashing-om,  1)there are some extra desktop effects when disabled can lead to improved app performance 2) there are other lightweight desktop systems that kubuntu/ubuntu can have?
[01:52] <m1k3> i never used steam but i did you wine
[01:52] <dw1> is there any way to change file permissinos with Nautilus FTP. it just says "operation not supported"
[01:52] <gill6150> whats wine?
[01:52] <m1k3> it lets you run windows programs in linux
[01:53] <Bashing-om> Voyage_: That is all true . BUT, it is always easier and safer to build up than to tear down .
[01:53] <Voyage_> my vlc is taking 100% of cpu to play a 4g .mkv
[01:53] <gill6150> but steam is supported by linux right?
[01:53] <Voyage_> Bashing-om,  you have a good but different suggestion than my question
[01:53] <m1k3> to a point
[01:53] <m1k3> only some games are compatable right now
[01:54] <gill6150> well yes the game im trying to run is linux compatible.
[01:54] <Voyage_> my vlc is taking 100% of cpu to play a 4g .mkv, I have almost nothing running on the pc del d630 2.2ghz core 2 duo. whats the issue here? getting video with bad result
[01:55] <m1k3> check for additional drivers
[01:55] <m1k3> did you install the restricted extras
[01:55] <Voyage> m1k3,  yes
[01:55] <Bashing-om> Voyage_: At the rsik of being pendant, If you remove/replace KDE, then it is no longer kubuntu . For performance I went with a minimal install . And yes it is much much faster .
[01:56] <m1k3> what version of ubuntu
[01:56] <m1k3> kde is a resource hog
[01:56] <m1k3> but a beautiful system
[01:57] <m1k3> oh i miss plasmoids hah
[01:57] <Voyage> Bashing-om,  1) it will still by kubuntu. well, ubuntu console if I remove KDE. 2) I can add another lightweight desktop system 3) I can trace why vlc and any other player is taking 100% cpu.
[01:57] <Voyage> m1k3,  LTS
[01:58] <m1k3> i upgraded to 15.04 this is an old single core and its running great
[01:58] <gill6150_> Still not working, freaking steam
[01:58] <m1k3> whats not working gill
[01:59] <m1k3> you can install cinnamon desktop and try it
[01:59] <gill6150_> cinnamon
[01:59] <gill6150_> ?
[01:59] <m1k3> you don't need to uninstall just log out and switch
[02:00] <m1k3> whats wronge with your cinnamon
[02:00] <m1k3> i used to get internet incompatability with mint
[02:00] <Bashing-om> Voyage: 1) Yes; 2) yes 3) VLC at 100% cpu usage, I have seen that with others here, but did not pay attentopn to the solution. Others will have to advise on how to trouble shoot VLC; regrets .
[02:00] <gill6150_> Whats cinnamon?
[02:00] <m1k3> a windows like desktop enviorment
[02:01] <m1k3> there are other great players other than vlc for linux
[02:01] <Voyage> Bashing-om,  whats the cause of that with any video player then?
[02:02] <Voyage> m1k3,  like?
[02:02] <Voyage> m1k3,  its happening with any player. I gues my cpq or the kubuntu isnt good for each other. BUT . I wonder why 2.2 ghz core 2 duo cant handle it??????? Bashing-om
[02:03] <m1k3> how much ram
[02:03] <m1k3> that dell came with like half a gig
[02:04] <uhsrva_> clear
[02:04] <m1k3> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html
[02:04] <uhsrva_> h
[02:05] <m1k3> clear v;rs
[02:05] <m1k3> hello
[02:05] <m1k3> ushrva
[02:07] <Voyage> m1k3,  ram usage is very low. 1g used. total is 6g
[02:08] <Bashing-om> Voyage: Where I would start is with the ram usage. How much ram is available and how it is managed. With VLC running, what does the terminal command 'free -m ' reveal ?
[02:09] <Voyage> cached: 3359  used: 4806  free: 1153 total: 5959
[02:10] <m1k3> is this your system http://www.cnet.com/products/dell-latitude-d630/specs/
[02:10] <Voyage> yes
[02:10] <Voyage> I upgraded ram to 6g
[02:10] <Voyage> 4g+2g ddr2
[02:13] <Bashing-om> Voyage: I see that as 4 gigs of ram installed, is "swap" being used ?
[02:13] <Voyage> 4gigs
[02:13] <Voyage> ?
[02:14] <Voyage> its 6gigs
[02:14] <Voyage> swap is 88 used
[02:14] <Voyage> 2911 free
[02:18] <Bashing-om> Voyage: Provide a screen shot so we know what column is the reference . My system for installed ram : total heading >> Mem:          3953 . Maybe what you have is the additional memory not compatible and causing issues (???)  Swap: 7996 (very small) and free is also 7996 . Such that presently I am using no swap space .
[02:18] <wafflejock> Voyage, my guess is terrible GPU
[02:19] <wafflejock> Voyage, I used to work on those at the Wrigley building in Chicago but was like 10 yrs back, the Intel GPUs back then were not so hot
[02:19] <m1k3> gut that much ram is not supported
[02:20] <m1k3> its on the cusp of 64
[02:20] <Bashing-om> Voyage: Yep wafflejock has a good point too ! What the GPU is doing has a lot to do with it .. how much memory it has and what is allocated to it .
[02:21] <Voyage> wafflejock,  m1k3  http://oi62.tinypic.com/1zyaecn.jpg
[02:21] <Voyage> m1k3,  Bashing-om  :) I have 64 bit
[02:23] <wafflejock> yeah you're not dipping into the swap too much, think you can turn it off with sudo swapoff -a, but I doubt it's going to matter here, my guess is it's just not using the GPU for doing any real acceleration so all the work is left on the CPU, but I'm not super savvy with how that all actually happens under the hood
[02:24] <Darpa> when you install TCL, where does it goes? (i am trying to install an eggdrop, it says tcl missing, but i got tcl and tcl-dev installed
[02:24] <Voyage> " my guess is it's just not using the GPU for doing any real acceleration so all the work is left on the CPU"?
[02:26] <wafflejock> Voyage, well your graphics processor can have more or less clock speed and more or less memory to work with and support various built in shader types (little programs for adding effects that are basically baked in), but with these older intel GPUs I would guess it's not really giving you any of that, probably using your regular RAM instead of having some dedicated video RAM and probably leaving your CPU to do most of the work
[02:26] <wafflejock> I'm just not sure how the system deals with taking advantage of a GPU or falling back to the CPU
[02:26] <wafflejock> like if that's handled in OpenGL or what layer of the system deals with that
[02:27] <Voyage> wafflejock,  the CPU is proccessing the 4g video at 100%
[02:28] <wafflejock> Voyage, you mean 4K? don't think the display or graphics processor on there supports that anyhow
[02:29] <wafflejock> Darpa, you can use sudo dpkg -L tcl-dev, to see what files are in the package
[02:32] <wafflejock> Voyage, either way I hear ya on the CPU usage spiking just not sure there's a ton you can do about it since the GPU is soldered into the main/mother board, double check system monitor or top to be sure it's just the video decoding that's eating the whole CPU
[02:32] <Voyage> I did
[02:33] <Darpa> wafflejock: http://i.imgur.com/yI4RKyP.png i do not see tcl.h in there. :/ am i just blind.
[02:34] <wafflejock> Voyage, not necessarily recommending this one just the first google result but if this is a problem and you plan to use the laptop in more of a desktop fashion you may consider an external graphics card http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=&cs=04&sku=A7057588&ST=pla&dgc=ST&cid=262075&lid=4742361&acd=1230980794501410
[02:36] <footoleggo> hello
[02:37] <wafflejock> Darpa, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=tcl.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=trusty&arch=any
[02:38] <wafflejock> Darpa, what are you trying to build?
[02:38] <Darpa> eggdrop
[02:38] <Darpa> a IRC bot.
[02:38] <wafflejock> Darpa, you may want to, sudo apt-get build-dep eggdrop
[02:38] <Darpa> oh
[02:39] <Darpa> didn't know about build-dep
[02:39] <Voyage> wafflejock,  thanks. but I noticed that  browser takes too much cpu too. this should not happen with a 2ghz core 2 duo
[02:40] <wafflejock> Voyage, really depends on what's going on in the browser, typically the major usage is really on the RAM side of things more than the CPU, but video ads that autoplay don't help
[02:40] <wafflejock> Voyage, in Chrome you can use Shift+Esc to get a system monitor that shows CPU and RAM usage split by tabs
[02:40] <Nautilus_> My 12.04 system hasnt been on in a while, now when it boots it tells me it will run in low-res mode and eventually boots to a command line not the desktop. Not even sure what to google about this.
[02:40] <Darpa> wafflejock: i did the command, and got the same error.
[02:40] <footoleggo> how do I install node.js?
[02:40] <Darpa> i give up :(
[02:40] <Voyage> wafflejock,  ya
[02:40] <wafflejock> Darpa, ah well, not sure exactly how build-dep works but has been handy for the last few things I've built
[02:41] <wafflejock> footoleggo, mmm well there is the package manager way and the DIY way
[02:42] <wafflejock> footoleggo, in most cases I say package manager but I don't like having to run node as root, installing random modules and insane trees of dependencies
[02:43] <wafflejock> footoleggo, I did a video like a year ago showing how I set it up, link in the description to the notes I have on screen I'm using https://youtu.be/zQNbsCTFrAA?t=31m20s
[02:44] <Bashing-om> Nautilus_: Proprietary graphics driver that got broke in an upgrade process ?
[02:45] <Nautilus_> Bashing-om: now it's skipping those messages, just straight to text based login
[02:46] <Nautilus_> bashing-om: not sure that I did anything special, driver wise, when I set the box up
[02:47] <Nautilus_> so I guess the Q is how to get it going again
[02:49] <Bashing-om> Nautilus: I would think the 1st thing is to look and see what Xorg is doing as to the graphics driver; ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' and let's look and see .
[02:51] <wafflejock> Nautilus, you might want to consider paving and reinstalling if you haven't done much with the system and/or have backups of anything critical, if you're going to deal with correcting the graphics problem might as well be doing it on 14.04 though, otherwise Bashing-om has got you on recovery I'm sure
[02:52] <Nautilus> I really just want to move some files off here
[02:53] <Bashing-om> Nautilus: Moving files can be done easily from a liveDVD(USB) .
[02:53] <wafflejock> Nautilus, you should be able to do that at the command line without too much hassle if you have a USB or have another computer you can use SSH to send files to
[02:53] <Nautilus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11464566/
[02:53] <wafflejock> or what Bashing-om said
[02:54] <Nautilus> just that having the GUI will help me find the files
[02:54] <wafflejock> Nautilus, do you know what they're called?
[02:54] <Nautilus> sure, -most- of them. Just wanted to browse around
[02:55] <wafflejock> Nautilus, you can use, "sudo updatedb", then "locate filename", or use midnight commander (mc) it's a GUI like file browser but in the terminal
[02:55] <wafflejock> sorry where I wrote filename there i meant an actual files name
[02:56] <wafflejock> other parts are the commands updatedb and locate
[02:56] <wafflejock> "tree" is another pretty handy one to see a hierarchy within a directory
[02:56] <wafflejock> but yeah LiveUSB is an option to have a regular ol' GUI
[02:57] <Nautilus> did ya see my paste?
[02:58] <Bashing-om> Nautilus: "[    16.788] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. ; [    16.788] no screens found ; What are you using for a monitor ? does that display device provide EDID info ?
[02:58] <Nautilus> its a SVGA Viewsonic CRT
[02:59] <Bashing-om> wafflejock: ^^ Nautilus :idea ? Recon we have no EDID ?
[02:59] <znn> i'm trying to start nginx using `service nginx start` but it isn't launching
[03:00] <znn> what do i need to check
[03:00] <znn> sudo nginx -t says the config files are okay
[03:00] <Nautilus> Bashing-om: yea, no idea there. but hey!! It just came up with GUI via NX, I was having trouble with that when I last tried/
[03:00] <wafflejock> Bashing-om, not sure about EDID or very good with X config for that matter but I imagine nomodeset would be a simple short term solution for low graphics mode
[03:01] <Bashing-om> wafflejock: ! great mind, wonderful idea .
[03:02] <wafflejock> Nautilus, have you used nomodeset before?
[03:02] <Nautilus> nope
[03:02] <tanuki> Is there a way to tell apt-get not to restart a service when it's upgraded?
[03:02] <tanuki> (Specifically, quasselcore)
[03:03] <Nautilus> being able to get in with NX pretty much gets me what I need
[03:03] <wafflejock> Nautilus, basic steps are, at Grub with ubuntu selected hit "e" for edit mode, you'll see a line that has splash and quiet set (boot flags) next to those add "nomodeset" then hit Ctrl+X to boot with that config
[03:03] <wafflejock> Nautilus, ah okay
[03:04] <Nautilus> thanks :)
[03:04] <wafflejock> np
[03:05] <tanuki> For some reason, when I add 'quiet splash' to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT, the screen goes black after the grub menu and never recovers
[03:05] <tanuki> (this is in VirtualBox if it matters)
[03:11] <footoleggo> would someone mind helping me out with a very simple task?
[03:13] <Bashing-om> footoleggo: Depends on what the task is, and who knows what . Ask and see .
[03:13] <footoleggo> Bashing-om, I just want to install Node.js
[03:15] <Bashing-om> footoleggo: And you checked the software repo ? for the easy way . ' apt-cache show Node.js ' .
[03:15] <fkaduck> Bashing-om: your so smart omg
[03:15] <fkaduck> Bashing-om: JUST KIDDING LOL
[03:16] <footoleggo> the software repo brings up a weird dutch magazine for node.js search
[03:16] <lockman-mac> is telepathy seperate from empathy?
[03:16] <footoleggo> lockman-mac,  no, everything is connected
[03:18] <wafflejock> footoleggo, you can just sudo apt-get install nodejs, for the version in the repo
[03:18] <wafflejock> footoleggo, sudo apt-cache show nodejs
[03:18] <wafflejock> !info nodejs
[03:18] <Bashing-om> footoleggo: I have a failure to comprehend; as from terminal we see  Version: 4.0.0+ds1-1 is available in 14.04 .
[03:18] <footoleggo> Bashing-om, i don't know why this is happening
[03:19] <lockman-mac> Where do the sip settigs show for the sofia-telepathy plugin?
[03:19] <footoleggo> i believe node.js is already installed but i don't know where to find it
[03:20] <Bashing-om> footoleggo: Back up and regroup. You have Node.js installed, and it is not functioning as you expect ? OR you want to install Node.js ?
[03:20] <footoleggo> I believe I ran the commands to install Node.js but I do not know where to find it and open it
[03:20] <wafflejock> footoleggo, which commands did you run, did you do the manual installation from the notes I linked or use apt-get?
[03:21] <ubuntuser13> footoleggo:  sudo apt-get install nodejs
[03:21] <footoleggo> wafflej0ck,  I used those commands, and I also used a PPA command before that
[03:21] <Bashing-om> footoleggo: To see if it is installed and the status, terminal command ' dpkg -l Node.js ' .
[03:22] <ubuntuser13> footoleggo: i also installed nodejs, few minutes ago without any problem. so what
[03:22] <footoleggo> okay, no packages found matching
[03:22] <Bashing-om> footoleggo: UNgood if both are installed, as that leads to conflicts . show ' apt-cache policy Node.js ' .
[03:22] <footoleggo> but I ran that command ubuntuser13
[03:22] <Ben64> isn't it nodejs, not Node.Js
[03:23] <wafflejock> yeah nodejs
[03:23] <wafflejock> for the package
[03:23] <footoleggo> four things show up that are Installed: (none)
[03:24] <ubuntuser13> footoleggo: actually this availiable in new in repository option availiable in synaptic package manager. just update package manager via sudo apt-get update.
[03:25] <footoleggo> i ran that command, ubuntuser13
[03:25] <ubuntuser13> footoleggo: now type in terminal...nodejs -v. which shows the installed version number.
[03:26] <footoleggo> 0.10.37
[03:26] <footoleggo> how do I open it?
[03:26] <wafflejock> footoleggo, it's just a command line tool that runs node programs (js files)
[03:26] <ubuntuser13> footoleggo: actually nodejs is server-side javascript.
[03:27] <footoleggo> ah, alright, thank you.
[03:27] <footoleggo> neat.
[03:28] <ubuntuser13> footoleggo: wait  i will give you a link...
[03:28] <ubuntuser13> footoleggo: http://www.nodebeginner.org/
[03:29] <Bashing-om> !cookie | ubuntuser13
[03:29] <footoleggo> thank you :D
[03:29] <footoleggo> i'm using this
[03:29] <footoleggo> https://github.com/workshopper/learnyounode
[03:30] <ubuntuser13> Bashing-om: and ubottu: Thankyou so much..it's my pleasure.
[03:30] <wafflejock> nice thx for sharing those links, both look pretty good and pretty noobish with node
[03:31] <footoleggo> i'm trying to learn programming here
[03:31] <footoleggo> so someone sent me the link I just posted
[03:32] <ubuntuser13> footoleggo: https://github.com/workshopper/learnyounode
[03:32] <wafflejock> footoleggo, yeah JS isn't a terrible place to start at first, once you get your feet wet might to want to learn something a little more formal and structured programming on the web is lucrative but a bit of the wild west constantly trying to keep the most popular browsers happy
[03:33] <wafflejock> structured,
[03:34] <lockman-mac> Where do the sip settigs show for the sofia telepathy plugin?
[03:35] <lockman-mac> It looks like the indicator applet is called telepathy and the messenger is called empathy
[03:36] <wafflejock> lockman-mac, not sure but as an alternative if you're just looking for a software SIP program you might want to try linphone I think it's been the best I've found
[03:37] <th34lch3m1st> hi all
[03:39] <ubuntuser13> footoleggo: http://www.tutorialspoint.com/nodejs/index.htm
[03:39] <lockman-mac> wafflejock: best?
[03:43] <wafflejock> lockman-mac, yeah out of the few I tried it seems to be the most reliable and the interface was simple enough to get going without reading documentation really
[03:44] <xar-> just learn C, it all makes sense if you know C ^_^
[03:44] <wafflejock> agree xar- but the curve is steep at first and takes some time to do anything you can feel proud of unless you're young :)
[03:45]  * xar- is old and grumpy
[03:45] <th34lch3m1st> I'm testing a usb live persistent (15.04), after creating a new wifi connection a window appears: "An application wants to create a new keyring called 'Default keyring' etc etc". I must insert a password or it's optional? Cause I have already had some trouble with this wifi (rtl8723be). I have fixed it and I dont want any whistle and bells mess up with it.
[03:47] <footoleggo> i'm stuck with exercise two
[03:48] <footoleggo> Maybe i need to know some JS first
[03:48] <wafflejock> footoleggo, codeacademy.com is pretty good for very basics I think, doesn't take you too far in but gets you started
[03:48] <ubuntuser13> footoleggo: yes , first you must learn basic javascript. this is advanced.
[03:49] <xar-> this is the last place to be asking, there are probably entire threads about programming language choices on stackoverflow, or similar. take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:49] <footoleggo> alright
[03:50] <ubuntuser13> footoleggo: start with this: http://www.w3schools.com/js/default.asp
[03:51] <footoleggo> thank you, i will
[03:55] <th34lch3m1st> I rephrase: do I need a default keyring on a live persistent? should I insert empty password? (cause live user does not have one?)
[04:08] <tanuki> Why does LXDE think my desktop is about a hojillion DPI?
[04:09] <tanuki> The terminal has decent-sized fonts... but the rest of LXDE has huge fonts.
[04:16] <ubuntuser13> tanuki: go to system settings >>>>text entry>>
[04:17] <tanuki> I don't actually have "system settings". I used tasksel to install a minimal Lubuntu on top of Server.
[04:18] <ubuntuser13> tanuki: ok
[04:18] <tanuki> What do I need to install to get it?
[04:19] <ubuntuser13> tanuki: i'm actually a ubuntu unity user, i never tried ubuntu lxde..
[04:20] <ubuntuser13> tanuki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Setup
[04:21] <neopsyche> ubuntu detects win 7 / no option to install alongside?
[04:21] <neopsyche> (only gives erase disk)
[04:21] <neopsyche> What to do?
[04:22] <neopsyche> http://askubuntu.com/questions/520334/windows-7-detected-but-no-option-to-install-alongside-windows
[04:22] <ubuntuser13> neopsyche: my suggestion is choose something else, create a seperate partition for ubuntu..actually there is a bug!..sometimes when  a person choose alongside,,,its whole disk got erased.
[04:22] <neopsyche> Ok Im trying to get my head around resizing.
[04:23] <neopsyche> I have the windows 7  loader.. if i delete that .. its game over for loading windows..
[04:23] <neopsyche> but also a partition of main drive
[04:23] <tanuki> ubuntuser13: The point is that those settings *say* that it's an 11 point font... but it's actually closer to 20-30.
[04:23] <neopsyche> How to resize?
[04:24] <neopsyche> http://askubuntu.com/questions/163962/install-alongside-option-missing-how-do-i-install-ubuntu-beside-windows-using
[04:25] <neopsyche> ah.. i see. windows hibernated rather than shut down. I must check that.
[04:25] <neopsyche> for anyone else having this issue, this could be the problem.
[04:25] <ubuntuser13> neopsyche: wait... i will give you a link. but try at your own risk. ok.
[04:26] <neopsyche> ?
[04:26] <ubuntuser13> tanuki: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/161668/set-system-font-in-lxde
[04:27] <neopsyche> ?
[04:28] <neopsyche> Ok trying again
[04:28] <ubuntuser13> ubuntuser13: means if you don't follow this carefully. data loss may be occured.
[04:29] <neopsyche> Loading
[04:31] <neopsyche> Ok I'm checking
[04:31] <neopsyche> Loading
[04:32] <FE_Still_Waiting> anyone know how to enable 2 finger scroll in ubuntu 14.04? The option is greyed out in settings
[04:32] <neopsyche>  Im not sure but can take a look FE
[04:33] <neopsyche> FE_Still_Waiting: So after some research it looks like two finger scrolling can be enabled for laptops with synaptics trackpads. I installed gsynaptics on my sony vaio VGN-T27GP
[04:34] <neopsyche> Ok, ubuntuser13, what is the link?
[04:35] <FE_Still_Waiting> what do I do after I install that package neopsyche?
[04:36] <neopsyche> http://askubuntu.com/questions/248290/enable-both-edge-scrolling-and-two-finger-scrolling-for-touchpad
[04:36] <neopsyche> what notebook?
[04:37] <neopsyche> https://duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.launchpad.net%2Fbugs%2F422224
[04:39] <neopsyche> which package?
[04:41] <neopsyche> OK! Im just KILLING WINDOWS.  Methinks perhaps windows is a virus.
[04:42] <neopsyche> Hmmm.
[04:42] <neopsyche> FE I need to know which package
[04:44] <neopsyche> FE http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1559479
[04:44] <neopsyche> FE_Still_Waiting:  what version ubuntu?
[04:45] <neopsyche> try 14.04
[04:48] <neopsyche> Sorry I have to go.
[04:49] <neopsyche> hope you find solution
[05:08] <fredflegel> Hello!
[05:08] <fredflegel> I have a problem with internet access on ubuntu and was hoping to find someone helping me to trace it.
[05:34] <gartwitch> hey guys, i'm in a serious bind here... I need a debian based single CD iso so I can fix my grub on a desktop, it will not sucessfully boot off of a USB drive and it doesn't have a dvd-rom. any ideas? I've tried partedmagic but PM is 32-bit and this machine has a 64-bit install. I'm stuck
[05:34] <cfhowlett> !debian | gartral,
[05:34] <cfhowlett> gartral, ask #debian for debian support
[05:36] <gartwitch> cfhowlett: i'm well the heck aware of the difference. but there's no CD iso of ubuntu ANYTHING.
[05:40] <fredflegel> @gartwitch: if i understand you need an ubuntu baste live cd that actually fits on a cd?
[05:41] <gartwitch> fredflegel: that would be preferable, yes
[05:42] <fredflegel> @gartwitch: If i am correct, you could try Lubuntu (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu), their iso seem to be small enough
[05:43] <J3553> I have a Ubuntu system with 2 drives and gpt2 mirrored under btrfs. The system crashed and upon reboot comes up to grub rescue only. What is safest way to recover?
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> !btrfs | J3553
[05:43] <fredflegel> @gartwitch: haven't done this though
[05:44] <fredflegel> would anybody be willing helping me trace done issues with internet connection after boot
[05:44] <J3553> Under grub rescue I ls (hd0,gpt2)/_box01/rootvol/boot/grub and same for (hd1,gpt2) ok
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> J3553: in most cases grub recoverymode>fix broken packages can help..
[05:44] <fredflegel> appeared after the switch to systemd
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> J3553: but if your data is very important, better try to rescue data first
[05:45] <J3553> lotuspsychje, can you explain more about recovermode fix?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | J3553
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> J3553: recoverymode you can try a few things from there: shell,failsafeX,fix broken packages
[05:46] <J3553> lotuspsychje, ok standby I will see if can boot into it
[05:47] <J3553> lotuspsychje, nope, it cant get to it... goes straight to: "entering resuce mode"
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> J3553: can you enter grub holding shift?
[05:48] <J3553> after "error: file '/_box01/rootvol/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found"
[05:48] <J3553> I am left at "grub rescue>"
[05:49] <J3553> no grub menu comes up at all
[05:49] <parsec2040> ugh i give up with linux is there any particular reason why my i74770 16 gigs of ram can't make a working bottable drive that wont giving me errors
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> !grubrecovery | J3553
[05:49] <parsec2040> realy man
[05:49] <parsec2040> i need help
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> !recovergrub | J3553
[05:50] <parsec2040> i just bought a brnad new flash drive today
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> parsec2040: wich tool are you trying to make bootable?
[05:50] <parsec2040> start up creator
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> parsec2040: and wich ubuntu version you trying to get on it?
[05:51] <parsec2040> kxstudio
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> parsec2040: ubuntu startup creator is only for ubuntu mate
[05:51] <parsec2040> lol
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> parsec2040: use another tool for other distro's
[05:51] <parsec2040> oh
[05:51] <parsec2040> so what do i use
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> parsec2040: unetbootin,multiboot,etc
[05:51] <parsec2040> i tried u net
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> parsec2040: i dont personaly like unetbootin
[05:52] <parsec2040> firsrt time i installed ubuntu mate it worked thne i used unet to overwrite mate to try normal ubuntu
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> parsec2040: multiboot is nice because it can drag n drop iso's easy
[05:52] <parsec2040> multiboot
[05:52] <J3553> lotuspsychje, I have a very recent kernel not in ubuntu repos, is there a boot cd you could recommend with recent kernel?
[05:52] <parsec2040> let me try that
[05:53] <parsec2040> i never even heard of multiboot
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> parsec2040: kk :p
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> J3553: wich ubuntu version are you trying?
[05:54] <J3553> lotuspsychje, what do you think would be the best approach? disconnect hd1, fix problem and then once all good, connect hd1 and issue btrfs resync commands?
[05:54] <parsec2040> hmm where do i find multiboot
[05:54] <parsec2040> its not in software center
[05:54] <J3553> Mint Rebecca, with latest kernels I could get for use with btrfs
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> J3553: sorry mate we cant help you on mint
[05:54] <J3553> but installed by dpkg and not from repos
[05:54] <parsec2040> yeah im not happy with unet at all
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> J3553: install ubuntu LTS and we could help further
[05:55] <parsec2040> let me google it
[05:55] <J3553> ok thanks
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> parsec2040: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> !mint | J3553
[05:55] <J3553> isnt it already effectively LTS Ubuntu that I have though?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> J3553: maybe you have the min lts yes
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> J3553: but i strongly advise you to install ubuntu for less problems
[05:56] <J3553> I do have the LTS
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> J3553: on mint...
[05:56] <J3553> and I will definitely be consider a change to unbuntu itself
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> ok great
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> J3553: i would plug out your hd, recover data and try 14.04 LTS
[05:58] <parsec2040> trying multibot
[06:00] <J3553> lotuspsychje, any particular bootdisk you would expecially recommend to do that?
[06:01] <J3553> and also would you disconnect hd1 and just work on hd0? or leave them together so boot disk might continue mirror?
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> J3553: maybe plug out hd1 and let ubuntu liveusb run on your hd2 to backup data?
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> J3553: maybe the ##hardware guys have other tricks to backup data on mirrored drives
[06:03] <J3553> They are 3TB drives, but I have a spare 3TB with just movies I can wipe and use that. The 2 drives in mirror have very very important data so I would rather sacrifice the movies in case
[06:04] <J3553> it is RAID1 mirror so should be ok separated. I am only new to btrfs though so havent had to try this :-/
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> its experimental on ubuntu
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> !btrfs
[06:05] <parsec2040> how do i use multiboot
[06:06] <parsec2040> it dl into an archive
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> parsec2040: there's a script install inside i think
[06:06] <parsec2040> so do i drag that to the terminal
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> ah yes try
[06:07] <J3553> lotuspsychje, yes, but their site now indicates that it is stable since later 2014. I took the plunge :-/
[06:09] <wolfenstien> Hello everybody.
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> J3553: it will go allright then :p
[06:18] <J3553> lol @ lotuspsychje ... of course
[06:19] <xenos80> how do i delete ubuntu
[06:19] <snkcld> how do i have ubuntu not automatically change my monitor settings when i plug a new monitor in?
[06:22] <darts301> Hello
[06:23] <darts301> Hello?
[06:24] <fredflegel> hello
[06:24] <r1ng> ?
[06:30] <gartwitch> fredflegel: yea, didn't work... it got to where it should start the GUI and the machine rebooted
[06:31] <promet> Hi, I've got an android phone mounted in 15.04 via mtp. I can see and browse in file manager, but can't find its mount point in my "/media/username" dir, does anyone know where the actual mount points for these live?
[06:32] <gartwitch> promet: MTP is a userspace driver, it doesn't actually expose a mountpoint in the traditional sense.
[06:33] <wtm> ..
[06:33] <snkcld> how do i prevent ubuntu from doing anything when i plug in my display port / hdmi?
[06:33] <snkcld> i dont want it to connect it immediately, i want to do that manually via xrandr
[06:33] <promet> gartwitch, thanks, is there a "workaround"? I'm trying to move some files from the LAN onto the phone and it'd be a lot faster if I could sftp them on there, rather than move them to the local machine.
[06:34] <wtm> Are there any Chinese?
[06:34] <wtm> I'm a Chinese.
[06:34] <r1ng> Chinese +1 ^_^
[06:34] <wtm> hello
[06:34] <argonostrum> has anybody managed to get the xchat systray icon working fine? instead of in a nested menu?
[06:34] <wtm> 你
[06:34] <wtm> 好
[06:35] <r1ng> a ha
[06:35] <Landser_Reich> 卐 0/
[06:35] <Landser_Reich> SIEG HEIL
[06:36] <wtm> ubuntu!!
[06:37] <fotografisto> where is antivirus for ubuntu?
[06:37] <fotografisto> I think I have a virus
[06:37] <r1ng> = =
[06:37] <histo> !av | fotografisto
[06:38] <histo> fotografisto: why do you think you have a virus?
[06:39] <fotografisto> I am getting pop ups for porn
[06:40] <aaltariqi> hi , plz i wanna update code for adobe flash player
[06:40] <histo> fotografisto: in your browser?
[06:40] <histo> fotografisto: what browser are you using?
[06:40] <fotografisto> firefox and chromium
[06:40] <histo> !flash | aaltariqi
[06:40] <aaltariqi> chromium
[06:41] <histo> fotografisto: are you sure it's not the website you are visiting?
[06:41] <fotografisto> maybe
[06:41] <histo> fotografisto: I highly doubt your browser is infected in linux
[06:42] <aaltariqi> thanks guys
[06:42] <aaltariqi> bye
[06:43] <cuz> My 14year old Ahlon 1G woks just fine with xubuntu! I'm so amazed!
[06:44] <cuz> Someone say something! I'm so exited!
[06:44] <r1ng> ...
[06:46] <tripelb> Ok problem. New installation. Blanked out on password. I go into toot, remount, /home is empty. I made home on another partition. Help me. (Normal first boot showed up with my user name.)
[06:47] <tripelb> Oops. Add. 14.10
[06:48] <gartwitch> fredflegel: yea, didn't work... it got to where it should start the GUI and the machine rebooted...
[06:51] <wtm> Chinese +1
[06:51] <fotografisto> the virus scanner in ubuntu repo doesn't work right
[06:51] <wafflejock> !cn | wtm
[06:51] <wtm> I know
[06:52] <lynn> hehehe
[06:52] <wtm> but there's no one in ubuntu-cn
[06:52] <argonostrum_> so has everybody adapted to the new restricted systray ?
[06:52] <promet> Just an fyi re: the mtp mountpoint thing - http://hastebin.com/dasosehuva.avrasm
[06:52] <argonostrum_> i am trying to figure out how to get xchat's tray icon to work properly in the systray
[06:53] <wtm> I am now chating on my iPhone.
[06:54] <histo> tripelb: what do you mean blanked out on password?
[06:54] <promet> fotografisto, are you referring to clamav?
[06:54] <histo> tripelb: lsblk to find out which parititon /home is on
[06:54] <fotografisto> clamtk promet
[06:54] <lynn> I am on my Vmware ^_^
[06:55] <fotografisto> when I click on clamtk nothing happens it only let's me close it
[06:55] <Arcade_Fire> i love ubuntu
[06:55] <Arcade_Fire> it's a great os
[06:55] <wtm> Virtual Machine？
[06:56] <Arcade_Fire> no vms are for broke ass niggers who can't afford a real computer
[06:56] <wtm> ubuntu kylin is better in China
[06:56] <lynn> yeah virtual mechine
[06:56] <tripelb> I mean histo that I forgot it. (I am on a phone.) I did lsblk -the / partition is marked / but it is blank afyer the home and swap partitions.
[06:57] <wtm> My computer is XP + Win7 + Ubuntu Kylin
[06:57] <lynn> 0_0
[06:57] <promet> fotografisto, I've never really noticed any issues with clamav (including clamtk frontend) I always think of it working so well, because I never seem to have any issues. what browser are you using?
[06:57] <histo> tripelb: You're not making much sense.  Please rephrase your question.
[06:58] <noob_ubuntuer> i would like some help with installing citrix receiver
[06:58] <histo> !details | tripelb
[06:58] <wtm> Boot loader is Bootmgr + grub2 + grub4dos
[06:58] <fotografisto> I am using firefox
[06:58] <wtm> Oh
[06:58] <sinistersurette> registration code
[06:58] <promet> fotografisto, hmmmm
[06:59] <wtm> may be i should say 'are'
[06:59] <histo> fotografisto: do you have any weird addons in about:addons
[07:01] <promet> fotografisto, maybe a wipe and reinstall of firefox? Be sure to backup (export) your bookmarks. Have a look here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/609350/browser-hijacker-wont-go-away-after-deleting-vista
[07:01] <noob_ubuntuer> AD Trust certificate error when trying to use citrix receiver... can anyone help me?
[07:01] <promet> fotografisto,
[07:01] <wtm> I like Chameleon too
[07:03] <promet> fotografisto, I would do a "sudo apt-get purge firefox" and follow the instructions in the above link, with regards especially to removing ".mozilla" and other associated directories form your own home directory
[07:03] <promet> fotografisto, remembering, of course, to backup your bookmarks first
[07:03] <fotografisto> k thanks
[07:03] <histo> fotografisto: which website are you experiencing the pop ups on?
[07:03] <promet> No worries mate
[07:03] <fotografisto> dunno
[07:04] <histo> fotografisto: how do you not know?
[07:04] <jws> Here is a fun google search: "sudo gedit" site:help.ubuntu.com      would it be ok to change all 182 occurrences to gksudo ?
[07:04] <fotografisto> pop ups happen all time
[07:04] <histo> fotografisto: on different websites?
[07:04] <fotografisto> yea
[07:04] <histo> fotografisto: in ubuntu?
[07:04] <fotografisto> I think this is ubuntu
[07:05] <fotografisto> maybe it is other os
[07:05] <wtm> Do like unity or gnome?
[07:05] <promet> Also, fotografisto once you reinstall, try adding the firefox, plugin "noscript", maybe "no-script" from the extensions library. It may help block the running of unwanted scripts on your new install
[07:05] <promet> fotografisto, it's a bit of a hassle, but not as much of a hassle as porn-spam...
[07:06] <fotografisto> wtm I like mate
[07:06] <fotografisto> what is porn spam?
[07:06] <tripelb> Histo. I did mount -o rw,remount / --- I bet
[07:07] <wtm> .
[07:07] <histo> fotografisto: are you in ubuntu when you are getting the pop ups or are you running windows?
[07:07] <tripelb> Histo. I did mount -o rw,remount / --- do i need to do that with /home and swap? Why is there an empty /home directory on / as well. Am I right?
[07:08] <histo> tripelb: did you create a seperate /home partition?
[07:09] <histo> tripelb: I still don't understand your problem because you won't explain what happened.
[07:13] <wtm> Chinese please say '1'
[07:13] <wtm> 1
[07:13] <histo> wtm: what are you trying to do?
[07:13] <histo> wtm: stop sending ctcp requests
[07:13] <histo> !ops | wtm
[07:15] <wtm> what?
[07:15] <histo> wtm: stop spaming me with ctcp request
[07:15] <phunyguy> wtm: what in the world are you doing.
[07:15] <wtm> ok
[07:16] <samoto> hi everyone
[07:16] <histo> wtm: if you have a ubuntu related support question ask it
[07:16] <samoto> ubuntu isnt automatically switch between network interfaces, isnt it?
[07:22] <samoto> can someone help me with wlan0 connection?
[07:23] <samoto> after get my ethernet working then i still cant switch to use my wifi
[07:23] <samoto> how can i switch between lan and wifi automatically?
[07:24] <tripelb> Histo i was busy looking at.fstab. jyes /home is separate. / on sda2 (options) errors=remount. /home on sda5 .. defaults and swap sda6.  sw        {Does that help?}
[07:25] <bekks> samoto: How did you configure your ethernet then? And which Ubuntu do you use?
[07:27] <tripelb> histo i got /home mounted. What about mounting swap? Should swap show on lsblk?
[07:28] <bekks> tripelb: you dont mount swap, but activate/deactivate it. And since swap is a blockdevice, it shows up on lsblk. Whats the actual issue at that point?
[07:29] <samoto> hello
[07:29] <samoto> can someone help me with wlan0 connection?
[07:29] <samoto> how can i switch between lan and wifi automatically?
[07:29] <bekks> samoto: How did you configure your ethernet then? And which Ubuntu do[D you use?
[07:29] <samoto> 15.04
[07:29] <samoto> i just use ifconfig eth0 up
[07:30] <xarquid> as long as ethernet is configured with eth0 and your wifi interface it will auto switch if wifi goes down
[07:30] <samoto> to get connect to my lan
[07:30] <bekks> samoto: Then NetworkManage ignores that interface and does not automatically switch connections.
[07:30] <bekks> *NetworkManager
[07:30] <samoto> i understand that suppose to work that way
[07:30] <samoto> but it isnt
[07:30] <footoleggo> is it possible to just change Unity and keep Ubuntu?
[07:30] <samoto> i did try to turn off my eth0 and disable
[07:30] <bekks> samoto: If you configure your interfaces manually (as you did), no automatic switch is possible.
[07:31] <xarquid> What is the active/primary interface? Is the other configured and available?
[07:31] <samoto> and then enable wifi on but nothing work
[07:31] <bekks> footoleggo: Change Unity into what?
[07:31] <footoleggo> bekks, that other thing that isn't as bad as they say unity is
[07:31] <nrdb> if I put a 'hold' on a package .... does it stay on hold forever?
[07:31] <bekks> footoleggo: Name "that other thing" please.
[07:32] <samoto> primary interface is my ethernet
[07:32] <footoleggo> bekks, KDE
[07:32] <xarquid> if you enable "All users may connect to this network" in the settings, then the connection does autoconnect.
[07:32] <samoto> how can i set it up automatically ?
[07:32] <bekks> footoleggo: Just install the package named "kubuntu-desktop".
[07:32] <xarquid> Also, make sure ipv5 setting is flipped to ignore, samoto
[07:32] <samoto> okay
[07:33] <footoleggo> not sure how to do that but now i know that's possible, figures. thank you
[07:33] <samoto> so far it seem my eth0 can on and off automatically but not wifi
[07:33] <xarquid> samoto: The main workaround is allowing all users to connect (which will make auto connect work even after reboot).
[07:33] <bekks> footoleggo: open a terminal and run: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-deskzop
[07:33] <bekks> footoleggo: open a terminal and run: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:33] <samoto> wifi never been working after ubuntu was installed
[07:34] <xarquid> samoto: Can you pastebin me your networking.log?
[07:34] <tripelb> Histo histo i thank you. Telepathy from your noble competent brain. I did man mount and mounted /home. ---- Then passwd worked.. (but now my text onscreen is really big)
[07:34] <samoto> ok
[07:34] <samoto> give me a sec
[07:34] <wtm> sudo apt-get remove --purge grub2
[07:34] <footoleggo> thank you bek
[07:34] <wtm> destory your computer
[07:35] <xarquid> samoto: Did WiFI work at all even during setup?
[07:35] <samoto> i use wire connection during my setup installation
[07:36] <bekks> wtm: Stop trolling.
[07:36] <samoto> strange...should network.log locate at /var/log dir ?
[07:36] <bekks> !danger | wtm
[07:36] <xarquid> samoto: Mind running service network-manager start
[07:36] <samoto> i cant find the network.log
[07:37] <samoto> can i use that cmd "network-manager start" while on eth0 connection to this irc ?
[07:37] <ubuntu270> please can someone help me with citrix receiver. when i click on the application it downloads launch.ica but does not launch the application
[07:38] <bekks> samoto: Why would you run that command? By default, NetworkManage is started, already.
[07:38] <xarquid> samoto: Locate WifiSyslog.txt & it is /var/log/upstart/networking.log
[07:38] <xarquid> samoto: As well as network-interface-lo.log
[07:38] <samoto> ok
[07:39] <samoto> nothing can be found in that directory
[07:39] <xarquid> samoto: Has wifi ever worked in any linux distro? Or is this the first linux install with this wifi interface?
[07:40] <xarquid> samoto: updatedb in terminal, locate network-manager.log
[07:40] <xarquid> and locate the other two..
[07:40] <nrdb> xarquid, it works fine here
[07:40] <samoto> it work fine in windows but this is my first linux distro and wifi is dead
[07:40] <bekks> samoto: Which wifi chipset is it?
[07:40] <xarquid> it's not dead, it's just not working yet :)
[07:41] <xarquid> lspci | grep -i wireless
[07:41] <xarquid> run that, samoto
[07:41] <samoto> xarquid your right
[07:41] <samoto> ok
[07:41] <xarquid> you may need to run update-pciids
[07:41] <xarquid> then run modinfo iwlagn
[07:41] <gartwitch> I am seriously at wit's end here... all I want to do is set up my grub again and everything i've tried has failed miseribly
[07:42] <xarquid> gartwitch: Dual boot or...single? One kernel?
[07:42] <bekks> xarquid: How do you know he is using an intel wifi?
[07:42] <samoto> Wireless 4965 AG
[07:42] <xarquid> bekks: Assumption (and a rootkit)
[07:42] <tripelb> It says system problem on new install,first login.is there a file that tells.me.what the problem is?   14.10
[07:42] <xarquid> Lenovo laptop too
[07:42] <gartwitch> xarquid: it's a single, it at onepoint had about 5 kernels on it and now it appears to have none
[07:43] <samoto> how do you know xarquid ?
[07:43] <nrdb> if I put a 'hold' on a package .... does it stay on hold forever, or just for one version?
[07:43] <Versace> Hello. I have a question. I get on a web chat error and is not loading: Error #2046
[07:43] <xarquid> Can you boot into them, gartwitch? Or at least a rescue CD and chroot to your install?
[07:44] <bekks> nrdb: It stays until you unhold it.
[07:44] <xarquid> Versace: That's a Java / SSL bug..
[07:44] <nrdb> bekks, thanks
[07:44] <gartwitch> xarquid: I have tried, when I try to chroot and repair grub there's no kernels.. it's seriously as though somehow they were deleted
[07:44] <samoto> xarquid is that Wireless 4965 AG use on dell or ibm ?
[07:44] <xarquid> Versace: Trust the website's cert and it will go away..
[07:45] <xarquid> samoto: You tell me ;) And it shouldn't matter..
[07:45] <Versace> Im new in ubuntu ...how i trust it?
[07:45] <xarquid> gartwitch: But the filesystem is there?
[07:45] <xarquid> Versace: What browser?
[07:45] <Versace> Chromeee <3
[07:45] <samoto> xarquid did you say who use Lenovo ?
[07:45] <Versace> I installed flash player and stuff. Youtube works..but this website chat is not working your website chat is working too.. lel
[07:45] <xarquid> Versace: CLI openssl s_client -connect chat.freenode.net:6697
[07:46] <gartwitch> xarquid: I'm trying boot-repair now as a last-ditch effort and it's sat there for an hour saying "Installing last kernel" and it hasn't budged
[07:46] <gartwitch> xarquid: yea. everything else is there
[07:46] <Versace> I have no ideea what did u said :d
[07:46] <xarquid> Versace: What site are you on?
[07:46] <Versace> now im on webchat.freenode.net
[07:46] <Versace> but the site i'm trying to join is a different website for chatting.
[07:46] <xarquid> gartwitch: Did you chroot to your other file system or no?
[07:47] <ubuntu270> You have not chosen to trust "Information Services (AD Forest)", the issuer of the server's security certificate  <= any ideas?
[07:47] <xarquid> Versace: It's cross-site..
[07:47] <Versace> www.socializam.com
[07:47] <xarquid> Or whoever. ^
[07:47] <Versace> this website :d
[07:47] <gartwitch> xarquid: yes, i said that. but there's no kernels in /boot/
[07:47] <Versace> http://www.socializam.com/chat.html
[07:48] <samoto> xarquid which command do i need to locate the file "network-manager.log" ??
[07:48] <xarquid> gartwitch: Did you follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair ?
[07:48] <samoto> xarquid: just use "locate network-manager.log" ?
[07:49] <bekks> samoto: Yes.
[07:49] <xarquid> samoto: In a terminal, yes.
[07:49] <ubuntu270> You have not chosen to trust "Information Services (AD Forest)", the issuer of the server's security certificate (SSL error 61) <= any ideas as to how I can 'trust' this?
[07:49] <samoto> it comes up nothing
[07:49] <xarquid> ubuntu270: Trust it where?
[07:49] <xarquid> samoto: Type updatedb
[07:49] <gartwitch> xarquid: yep, that's what's stuck now
[07:50] <ubuntu270> not sure... I want to use it in Chrome or Firefox
[07:50] <samoto> xarquid: what is updatedb doing?
[07:50] <xarquid> http://blog.avirtualhome.com/adding-ssl-certificates-to-google-chrome-linux-ubuntu/
[07:50] <samoto> just run that but nothing come up
[07:50] <bekks> samoto: It updates the db locate is using.
[07:50] <xarquid> That's how to add the SSL certs as 'trusted' in Chrome.
[07:50] <Versace> ubuntu270: i think we need to go to ssl manager in chrome /settings advanced settings
[07:51] <xarquid> samoto: Now run the locate command again.
[07:51] <samoto> bekks: oh ok!
[07:51] <samoto> samething, nada
[07:51] <Versace> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:51] <Versace> meh
[07:52] <xarquid> Versace: Use sudo
[07:52] <gartwitch> xarquid: you see why i'm at wit's end?
[07:52] <xarquid> And exit synaptic and/or finish apt-get, etc. "jobs", Versace
[07:53] <xarquid> gartwitch: Not really, I don't know where your wit started.
[07:53] <gartwitch> xarquid: about 5 hours ago when grub said no kernel existed in (hdd0,1)
[07:53] <xarquid> gartwitch: Are you on the machine you want to fix now? Or where are you in the 'RecoveringUbuntu....' guide?
[07:54] <Alostar> ／list
[07:54] <xarquid> gartwitch: Did that occur after a kernel upgrade and/or normal update or...?
[07:54] <bekks> !list | Alostar
[07:54] <wtm> hi
[07:54]  * wtm hi
[07:54] <xarquid> bekks: How did you know he wanted a bot's listing of files (or whatever...)?!
[07:55] <Versace> i put those 6 commands
[07:55] <bekks> xarquid: Experience ;)
[07:55] <gartwitch> xarquid: I'm on my laptop, the machine in question is my father's and yes the problem started after an apt-get dist-upgrade\
[07:55] <Versace> but no change
[07:55] <xarquid> wtm: You can use colors too...if the channel flipped a switch and had <3 in its...hm
[07:55] <xarquid> Versace: Did you restart Chrome?
[07:55] <Versace> nope lel
[07:55] <wtm> &4s
[07:55] <xarquid> That might help, Versace
[07:56] <xarquid> gartwitch: Ok, so dist-upgrade, reboot, no grub?
[07:56] <wtm> xarquid: how to use colors?
[07:56] <versace> nope the same error
[07:56] <xarquid> wtm: Not here
[07:56] <gartwitch> xarquid: grub exists, but it only shows memtest and boots into memtest.. no kernels
[07:56] <wtm> .
[07:57] <bekks> gartwitch: And do you have a kernel installed?
[07:57] <wtm> gartwitch: use update-grub
[07:57] <wtm> gartwitch: try update-grub
[07:57] <xarquid> gartwitch: I don't understand what you have done, I'm sorry. Are you using boot-repair or chroot'ing to the filesystem you want to fix?
[07:57] <versace> Even in FIrefox i got the same error
[07:57] <xarquid> If chrooting then update-grub or manually edit it to include the new kernel (if it boots correctly)
[07:58] <wtm> gartwitch: try sudo update-grub
[07:58] <samoto> everyone gave up on me?
[07:58] <gartwitch> xarquid: right now i'm trying boot-repair, wtm update-grub only showed the memtest, so I believe the kernels are just gone
[07:58] <wtm> oh
[07:58] <xangua> !patience | gartwitch
[07:58] <xarquid> You didn't chroot, gartwitch ?
[07:58] <brontosaurusrex>  samoto what was the question
[07:58] <xangua> That was for samoto , sorry
[07:58] <gartwitch> xarquid: I DID try that about an hour ago.. it showed no kernels
[07:59] <bekks> gartwitch: So chroot and install a kernel.
[07:59] <gartwitch> xangua: np. I could easily see how people here thin i'm being impatient
[07:59] <samoto> i got only eth0 working but not wlan0
[07:59] <histo> samoto: what's wrong with wlan0?
[08:00] <samoto> i dont know but it never work under linux
[08:00] <Versacee> damn
[08:00] <xarquid> samoto: Which model card again?
[08:00] <histo> samoto: lscpi | grep Network    What does that show as the card model?
[08:00] <gartwitch> bekks: how? and will a kernel for 15.04 work in a 14.04 installation? (I know it won't be supported, but if it'll let me boot, backup the home and install a proper kernel I'll give it a shot)
[08:00] <Versacee> i have no ideea howto fix this
[08:00] <samoto> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron]
[08:00] <happyfr0gg> I want to install TimeShift on Trusty. Will the current version of TimeShift break non Grub2 bootloader?
[08:00] <histo> gartwitch: what's wrong with your kernel?
[08:00] <bekks> gartwitch: A 15.04 kernel will not work in 14.04. Just chroot and install a kernel.
[08:00] <xarquid> gartwitch: Just use the newest from kernel.org
[08:00] <gartwitch> histo: it's completely gone
[08:00] <bekks> histo: grub doesnt show any kernels installed.
[08:01] <xarquid> grub doesn't know
[08:01] <histo> gartwitch: boot the installer cd/usb and install a working kernel
[08:01] <histo> !recovery | gartwitch
[08:01] <gartwitch> bekks: I can't boot a 14.04 livecd
[08:01] <bekks> gartwitch: Why not?
[08:01] <wtm> gartwitch: find /vmlinuz
[08:01] <histo> bekks: why do you say it wouldn't work?
[08:01] <bekks> gartwitch: And you dont need a 14.04 cd, you can do that with a 15.04 cd.
[08:01] <gartwitch> histo: I can't, there's no kernel on the machine
[08:01] <xarquid> happyfr0gg: there is.....
[08:01] <xarquid> if the file system is there...
[08:02] <gartwitch> wtm: doesn't exist
[08:02] <histo> samoto: do lspci -k   and see what kernel module that card is using
[08:02] <bekks> histo: Because installing a kernel package for 15.04 into 14.04 is not the best thing to do.
[08:02] <wtm> Then I cannot help you..
[08:02] <gartwitch> bekks: care to elaborate on how?
[08:02] <histo> samoto: also check rfkill list and see if it's soft or hard blocked
[08:02] <histo> gartwitch: why can't you boot a 14.04 cd?
[08:03] <bekks> gartwitch: chroot and install the linux-image package.
[08:03] <gartwitch> histo: because the machine reboots on trying to load the DM.
[08:03] <histo> !nomodeset | gartwitch
[08:03] <xarquid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup
[08:04] <Versacee> nobody can help me ? :(
[08:04] <samoto> it shown that wireless card in use
[08:04] <samoto> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
[08:04] <samoto> Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 1010
[08:04] <xarquid> samoto: sudo lshw -c network
[08:04] <samoto> Kernel driver in use: iwl4965
[08:04] <blackflow> Versacee: what with?
[08:04] <wtm_chinese> Versacee: what?
[08:05] <xarquid> blackflow / wtm_chinese: Trusting an SSL cert
[08:05] <samoto> network DISABLED
[08:05] <Versacee> :D
[08:05] <samoto>        description: Wireless interface
[08:05] <samoto>        product: PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connec
[08:05] <xarquid> is that indeed your card?
[08:05] <xarquid> ls -l /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-4965*
[08:06] <happyfr0gg> xarquid, are you saying that the current version of TimeShift will only work on systems with a Grub2 bootloader?
[08:06] <Versacee> :(
[08:06] <xarquid> samoto: dmesg | grep iwl
[08:06] <samoto> i tried to turn on the wireless card before but it still not have any wifi signal
[08:06] <blackflow> Versacee: nothing in lastlog for your nick, can you repeat?
[08:06] <xarquid> Versace: Get irssi
[08:06] <Versacee> Versace was my last log.
[08:06] <Versacee> But its already register and kicked me out
[08:07] <Versacee> Irssi ?
[08:07] <samoto> [   13.290252] iwl4965: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi 4965 driver for Linux, in-tree:
[08:07] <samoto> [   13.290255] iwl4965: Copyright(c) 2003-2011 Intel Corporation
[08:07] <samoto> [   13.290327] iwl4965 0000:03:00.0: can't disable ASPM; OS doesn't have ASPM control
[08:07] <samoto> [   13.290507] iwl4965 0000:03:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN, REV=0x4
[08:07] <samoto> [   13.333593] iwl4965 0000:03:00.0: device EEPROM VER=0x36, CALIB=0x5
[08:07] <samoto> [   13.333611] iwl4965 0000:03:00.0: Tunable channels: 11 802.11bg, 13 802.11a channels
[08:07] <samoto> [   13.937952] iwl4965 0000:03:00.0: loaded firmware version 228.61.2.24
[08:07] <xarquid> happyfr0gg: No idea, never tried it. I assume it will. If not, ....you are saying your system might fail to boot altogether if you use TimeShift?
[08:07] <Versacee> I got Error #2046 in: http://www.socializam.com/chat.html
[08:07] <blackflow> samoto: learn how to use IRC, and use a pastebin!
[08:07] <bekks> Versacee: Use a sane IRC client then.
[08:08] <wtm_chinese> I am using Irssi
[08:08] <xarquid> https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi
[08:08] <samoto> sorry
[08:08] <happyfr0gg> xarquid, yes. I am reading from http://www.teejeetech.in/p/timeshift.html
[08:08] <xarquid> happyfr0gg: Ask timeshift support
[08:09] <Versacee> What is recommanded for ubuntu what irc client ...
[08:09] <happyfr0gg> do they have a IRC channel?
[08:09] <xarquid> happyfr0gg I don't see why or how they would affect grub and/or the linux file system from booting up.
[08:09] <histo> samoto: rfkill list
[08:09] <samoto> ok
[08:09] <xarquid> Versacee: GUI or text based? There are tons.
[08:09] <bekks> Versacee: The one you like most.
[08:09] <histo> samoto: does it show it being blocked?
[08:10] <dynorsau> Is there a way to use my laptop keyboard as a usb keyboard for other devices?
[08:10] <samoto> 0: tpacpi_bluetooth_sw: Bluetooth
[08:10] <xarquid> happyfr0gg: They only support grub2.
[08:10] <histo> dynorsau: there are software based kvms out but not via usb like you are talking about
[08:10] <xarquid> happyfr0gg: That's on their site. Use grub2.
[08:10] <samoto> Soft blocked: yes
[08:10] <samoto> Hard blocked: yes
[08:11] <xarquid> Versacee: XChat is a popular GUI client. irssi is a popular text-based terminal client.
[08:11] <dynorsau> What is kvm?
[08:11] <samoto> 1: phy0: Wireless LAN
[08:11] <gartwitch> ok, new problem, I can't mount /dev/sda5 because mount doesn't know what to do with an LVM2_Member
[08:11] <samoto> Soft blocked: yes
[08:11] <xarquid> Versacee: Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:11] <samoto> Hard blocked: yes
[08:11] <samoto> everything yes
[08:11] <samoto> :(
[08:11] <dynorsau> There's no way to share a keyboard?
[08:11] <xarquid> KVM is Kernel-based virtual machine, dynorsau
[08:12] <dynorsau> Via usb?
[08:12] <histo> xarquid: I was talking about keyboard video mouse
[08:12] <gartwitch> dynorsau: look into Synergy, it's kinda cool
[08:12] <histo> xarquid: like a kvm switch box
[08:12] <histo> dynorsau: synergy is the software I was referring to
[08:12] <xarquid> dynorsau Yes, get Synergy
[08:12] <xarquid> .../agree gartwitch  ^^ ;-)
[08:12] <dynorsau> Ok I'mlooking in to it now thanks
[08:12] <Cato_> Does anyone know what might prevent me from reaching gigabit speeds other than my cables and router? I am only getting "Cannot advertise 1000" when playing around with ethtool, even though my NIC advertises gigabit.
[08:12] <xarquid> http://sourceforge.net/projects/synergy2/
[08:13] <gartwitch> xarquid: see, i'm not useless.. just frustrated with my curent situation
[08:13] <happyfr0gg> When installing Ubuntu, is Grub installed as well?
[08:13] <xarquid> Cato_: Uhm, tons of things..
[08:13] <twager> Anyone tried lili to create a persistence usb stick ?
[08:13] <xarquid> happyfr0gg: Which version of Ubuntu?
[08:13] <gartwitch> Cato_: how long, physically, is your ethernet cable?
[08:13] <happyfr0gg> 14.04
[08:13] <Cato_> xarquid: about a meter
[08:14] <gartwitch> Cato_: and it's Cat5e rated?
[08:14] <dynorsau> I'm wondering if synergy would solve this problem : i can't log into my raspberry pi locally because i dont have a usb keyboard
[08:14] <Cato_> xarquid, i have tested two Cat5e cables and one Cat6, all of wich gives me gigabit speeds on a windows box
[08:14] <histo> dynorsau: ssh into your raspberry pi
[08:14] <xarquid> samoto: I think recompiling the newest version of ndiswrapper will fix your wifi issue (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Intel_4965_AGN_WiFi_Driver/Fiesty), but I'm not sure.
[08:14] <Versacee> thank you guys:P
[08:15] <gartwitch> Cato_: ok, so it's not the cable, huh... what NIC chipset?
[08:15] <Versacee> quit
[08:15] <dynorsau> Histo i need to display hdmi desktop
[08:15] <xarquid> happyfr0gg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading Follow that
[08:15] <histo> dynorsau: you can configure that via ssh
[08:15] <dynorsau> histo how?
[08:15] <samoto> what should i do next guys?
[08:15] <dynorsau> I'm already logged in
[08:15] <histo> dynorsau: what distro are you running on the pi
[08:15] <dynorsau> Raspbian
[08:15] <histo> samoto: sudo rfkill unblock all
[08:16] <histo> dynorsau: doesn't raspbian boot to the desktop by default?
[08:16] <gartwitch> dynorsau: you'll need to install synergy on the OS, you *MAY* need to compile it for the ARM architecture
[08:16] <samoto> ok i just unblock all
[08:16] <dynorsau> histo no, log in prompt
[08:16] <Cato_> gartwitch, lshw -C network outputs: Attansic L1 Gigabit Ethernet, wich is qualcomm atheros
[08:16] <histo> samoto: then you should be able to connect to a wifi point.
[08:16] <gartwitch> Cato_: what does "lsmod | grep eth" say
[08:17] <histo> dynorsau: during the install of rasbian you can tell it to start X server after boot
[08:17] <gartwitch> "lsmod | grep ath" sorry
[08:17] <dynorsau> histo i used an img
[08:17] <histo> dynorsau: sudo raspi-config
[08:17] <promet> re: subsonic problems. You know what? storage is getting cheaper and cheaper. To the winds with Subsonic and network streaming in general. I just copied the playlist to my phone's surprisingly large sdcard. problem solved...
[08:17] <dynorsau> Histo looked in config but unsure what to do there?
[08:17] <histo> dynorsau: and change teh boot_behavior
[08:18] <Cato_> gartwitch, they output neither. Attansic uses the at1 module.
[08:18] <dynorsau> histo ok i will try
[08:18] <Cato_> gartwitch, atl1 sorry
[08:18] <samoto> histo: ok i just did like you said
[08:18] <dynorsau> At that point there only way to control the desktop remotely is synergy for arm?
[08:18] <histo> samoto: K is everything show not blocked now if you run    rfkill list
[08:18] <samoto> now should i reboot my machine or any cmds can be used without a reboot?
[08:18] <gartwitch> Cato_: well google "atl1 gigabit ubuntu"?
[08:19] <histo> dynorsau: yes or some other software similar to synergy
[08:19] <histo> dynorsau: you could also forward applications from the pi to your local linux machine via ssh
[08:19] <Cato_> gartwitch, i have googled quite a bit. This is kind of my last resort :p
[08:19] <samoto> 0: tpacpi_bluetooth_sw: Bluetooth
[08:19] <histo> samoto: commands can be used without reboot
[08:19] <histo> brb
[08:19] <Cato_> gartwitch, i was hoping maybe there was something else i had missed.
[08:19] <samoto> Soft blocked: yes
[08:19] <samoto> Hard blocked: yes
[08:19] <samoto> 1: phy0: Wireless LAN
[08:20] <samoto> Soft blocked: no
[08:20] <samoto> Hard blocked: yes
[08:20] <gartwitch> samoto: Hard Blocked means there's a hardware block...
[08:20] <shaytan> Hi guys. I got a strange problem the other day on my Ubuntu 14.04 desktop. I didnt do any change, whatsoever(!), to my system prior the problem. One morning I booted up my computer and instead of default login screen I got my desktop background! By inspecting the dconf-editor, I didn't discover any oddities - the app was still pointing to the original login image. Even switching things around didn't help - still got my desktop background
[08:20] <samoto> gartwitch: ok
[08:21] <samoto> gartwitch: so my wifi has a hardware block issue
[08:21] <gartwitch> samoto: you generally can't bypass a hard block without changing the devices firmware
[08:22] <saurabh> Hi, I'm using 14.04 on x86_64. I installed android studio. However, I do not want to install SDK in HOME. How do I do that?
[08:22] <samoto> gartwitch: so i need to update my bios firmware ?
[08:22] <gartwitch> samoto: and sometimes manufactuers put in pull-down/up resistors to block out features on their hardware to make you but the more expensive verients
[08:22] <xarquid> saurabh: Install it and then move it?
[08:22] <saurabh> xarquid, like in /opt ?
[08:23] <xarquid> Wherever you want to stick it, saurabh
[08:23] <saurabh> great thanks. Lemme try
[08:23] <gartwitch> samoto: no, you need to determine if the manufacture put a firmare that's blocking the feature on the controller for your WiFi card, or if it's a resistor
[08:24] <Cato_> gartwitch, im seeing most people fixing this issue with another cable. Maybe windiows is not as sensitive on these matters. Ill try another cable.
[08:24] <Cato_> windows*
[08:24] <samoto> gartwitch: so yu are trying to say my wifi card was blocked my the manuafacture?
[08:25] <gartwitch> samoto: yes, though it's rare for a wifi card, but I've seen it with GPUs, CPUs and 3g/4g modems
[08:25] <samoto> gartwitch: why would they have to do that?
[08:28] <gartwitch> samoto: they don't have to do it, they did it because they're greedy jerks who want to force you to buy more expensive hardware
[08:28] <histo> samoto: is there a switch on the device to enable and disable wifi?  Like is this a laptop
[08:29] <gartwitch> samoto: oh yea, I forgot about hardswitches >.>
[08:29] <samoto> i see the short cut key (Fn+F5)
[08:29] <gartwitch> xarquid: ok, so I've hit another wall... LVM2
[08:30] <gartwitch> samoto: try hitting that
[08:30] <histo> samoto: press it
[08:31] <histo> samoto: and then check rfkill list output again
[08:31] <samoto> i just did and it poped up a bluetooth sign on my right top conner
[08:31] <histo> samoto: not bluetooth look for a wifi one
[08:31] <samoto> i am using Lenovo T62
[08:31] <histo> samoto: what type of laptop do you have? make/model
[08:31] <samoto> Lenovo T62
[08:32] <histo> samoto: check the bottom left front edge of the laptop what does that switch do?
[08:32] <samoto> histo: you mean the one just right next to 1394 port ?
[08:33] <histo> samoto: yea
[08:33] <samoto> that is the one popped up the bluetooth thing
[08:33] <samoto> but not wifi
[08:34] <histo> samoto: did fn+f5 unblock the hardware lock?
[08:35] <samoto> that didnt work actually
[08:36] <samoto> now i use "rfkill list" and see all wlan0 were unblocked
[08:36] <samoto> both soft& hard
[08:38] <samoto> may be i need to reboot the machine to see if it works
[08:38] <histo> samoto: okay now try and connect to a wifi network
[08:38] <samoto> brb
[08:45] <gartwitch> ok, so how do i mount an LVM group so I can chroot it?
[08:47] <histo> gartwitch: moutn /dev/volumegroup/logicalvolume /some/directory
[08:47] <histo> gartwitch: you can vgs to see the volume groups and lvs  to see the logical volumes
[08:55] <gartwitch> ok, so I'm at the part in http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd where I need to use the --bind flags, should I do this knowing that I'm working on a 14.04 install from a 15.04 live cd?
[08:56] <histo> gartwitch: yeah you can
[08:56] <ananta> Hi all
[08:56] <histo> gartwitch: you're talking abou thte bind mounts for proc etc..
[08:59] <gartwitch> histo: ok, thanks
[09:05] <gartwitch> histo: ok, so once i'm chrooted in, i'm effectively operating on the HDD's OS install and all changes will stick, yes?
[09:05] <wtm> Are there any one?
[09:05] <gartwitch> wtm: hi
[09:05] <wtm> hi
[09:05] <histo> gartwitch: yes
[09:06] <gartwitch> histo: so if I, say run "sudo apt-get install linux-image-lowlatency" it'll install?
[09:06] <histo> gartwitch: yes
[09:06] <gartwitch> oh thank the gods
[09:06] <histo> gartwitch: assuming you are connected to the internet on that box
[09:07] <gartwitch> histo: well duh :P
[09:07] <wtm> Every time I join to a Channel, there's no one talk.
[09:07] <wtm> //////////////////////////////////////
[09:07] <histo> wtm: this is a support channel not a general chatter
[09:07] <histo> !alis | wtm
[09:10] <gartwitch> histo: should I run an "update-grub after installing the kernel just for good measure?
[09:10] <histo> gartwitch: sure
[09:11] <histo> gartwitch: although installing the kernel should have called it. It can't hurt to run it again
[09:12] <gartwitch> histo: I saw that, but I ran it anyway, ok, next question, should I unmount the partitions before rebooting or just reboot?
[09:12] <histo> gartwitch: yes just to be safe, exit the chroot, umount and then reboot
[09:14] <sireorion> go mörra
[09:15]  * gartwitch gives histo a quarter keg of beer
[09:15] <histo> gartwitch: glad it worked.
[09:16] <gartwitch> this is always the hair-raiser, it's booting slow
[09:18] <gartwitch> oh hell yes, thank you ALL
[09:18] <Cato_> If i was going to compile a driver from a vendor, wich is not included in ubuntu. What is the easiest way to go about it? I am in the source folder and trying to do "make install", but i am getting "*** Linux kernel source not configured - missing config.h.  Stop."
[09:18] <Cato_> can i do this without messing up my entire install? :P
[09:19] <histo> Cato_: you probably need headers.  But what driver are you trying to compile?
[09:20] <histo> Cato_: try sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:20] <Cato_> A driver for my network card. The module supplied with ubuntu wont let me use gigabit even though it says it is supported in ethtool. And i want to try to use the vendor supplied ones.
[09:20] <Cato_> histo, it tells me i already have the newest version
[09:21] <histo> Cato_: look for instructions with that came with the drivers
[09:32] <srm> Hi. I have a system here, that got broken during an update. Something about missing cryptswap. Now the system was reinstalled (without formatiing). How can I restore the old users crypted home?
[09:33] <Cato_> histo, yeah. first i got "version.h" missing, and then i did make include/linux/version.h within the linux source dir. But now it says config.h missing. Im not sure i want to be messing with this, i am not nearly as experienced as i should be. Maybe i should just accept that my card wont use gigabit speeds. God damn Attansic card :p
[09:38] <pwca> hi, it seems like I have uninstalled my GUI by accident. this is on a remote computer that I don't have physical access to. is it possible for me to repair my installation so that it reinstalls essential packages such as GUI?
[09:47] <chronodekar> pwca: try installing unity again.
[09:47] <chronodekar> might help
[09:50] <gartwitch> ok, I have another issue, but this one is MINOR, I want to upgrade this desktop from 14.04 to 15.04, but do-release-upgrade shows no new versions
[09:51] <gartwitch> isn't 15.04 an LTS?
[09:53] <gartwitch> nvm
[09:53] <Seveas> gartwitch: no, it is not. 16.04 will be
[09:53] <Seveas> so to upgrade you have to go via 14.10
[09:54] <srm> ok, let me rephrase this: I've reinstalled a system after I got a cryptswap error. I've created a new user during the install. I was expecting the old user to be still available for login, but it isnt. The user home is there and I can access the data using ecryptfs-recover-private
[09:55] <gartwitch> Seveas: ok, well I have a problem anyway, the nvidia 331 drivers aren't working correctly after repairing my kernel
[09:55] <srm> So how do I get the user back in the login choice?
[09:55] <Seveas> pwca: only if you installed openssh on there so you canlog in remotely
[09:57] <pwca> chronodekar: I'm not using Unity, but I just tried reinstalling Gnome.
[09:58] <federica> t
[09:58] <pwca> Seveas: yes, I have ssh installed.
[09:58] <federica> list!
[09:58] <pwca> I tried to reinstall Gnome and upgrade everything I could but it doesn't seem to have rebooted cleanly..
[10:01] <pwca> at least sshing into it gives me timeouts.
[10:10] <gartwitch> so any ideas why the nvidia drivers went kaput?
[10:16] <gartwitch> >.>
[10:17] <makara> hi. I'm trying to make a startup USB for 15.05
[10:17] <makara> hi. I'm trying to make a startup USB for 15.04
[10:17] <makara> it says failed to install bootloader'
[10:18] <gartwitch> makara: using what method?
[10:19] <makara> gartwitch, the startup disk creator in 14.04.2
[10:20] <gartwitch> makara: make sure you select the option to not keep changes and also watch it as the bootloader installation is likely asking for your sudo password, it tends to pop up under the main window
[10:20] <makara> its copied all the files across, but that last step fails. I specified discard changes
[10:22] <Seveas> pwca: when ssh works again, just install the ubuntu-desktop package.
[10:22] <gartwitch> makara: yea, watch it, it'll ask for your password to install the bootloader
[10:24] <makara> let me try again
[10:24] <gartwitch> mmmm mint peach tea vape, kalb you should try it.
[10:25] <gartwitch> oh crap... sorry all. wasn't watching where I was typing
[10:31] <irgendwer4711> hi, I have one problem with lightworks after upgrading to ubuntu 15.04. after Lightworks start, the window is invisible, there is only a entry in taskbar.
[10:37] <m1xm4ster> hello :)
[10:37] <histo> gartwitch: what method idd you use to install the nvidia drivers?
[10:38] <histo> makara: just dd the iso to the thumb drive
[10:39] <m1xm4ster> I accidentally deleted my lxc rootfs while reinstalling lxc via ap-get purge lxc.. :( I did not know, that it deletes the container rootfs aswell. Any chance to get back the data?
[10:39] <gartwitch> histo: they were installed and working before the great kernel derp.]
[10:40] <histo> gartwitch: if you installed the ones from nvidia.com site you ahve to reinstall them anytime the kernel updates
[10:40] <gartwitch> histo: no, they were originally installed through apt
[10:40] <histo> gartwitch: it has to build the kernel module for whatever kernel you are currently running
[10:41] <histo> gartwitch: probably just reinstall them then
[10:41] <histo> !nvidia | gartwitch
[10:41] <gartwitch> histo: I'm aware of this, and I've reinstalled them but they aren't working
[10:41] <histo> m1xm4ster: where was the rootfs stored?
[10:42] <histo> gartwitch: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:42] <byllgrim> ienrat
[10:42] <histo> gartwitch: also is the module loaded? you can check via lsmod
[10:43] <gartwitch> yea, i'll check
[10:44] <m1xm4ster> histo: not in /var/lib/lxc/container, but on an other drive /media/data/container/rootfs (ext4)
[10:44] <histo> m1xm4ster: well purge shouldn't have removed that rootfs
[10:44] <Jusic> Why does apt-get autoremove removes old linux-images but leaves old linux-headers installed?
[10:45] <gartwitch> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com11470983
[10:46] <gartwitch> Jusic: you have modules compiled against those headers
[10:46] <histo> gartwitch: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:47] <Jusic> gartwitch: I only have the virtualbox modules, but they get removed with the old the old kernel too
[10:47] <gartwitch> histo: already installed and newest version
[10:48] <histo> gartwitch: hrm... no idea maybe some other nvidia buff is here to figure it out. I haven't used their cards in ages
[10:48] <byllgrim> a
[10:48] <m1xm4ster> histo: that is strange.. I'm gonna inspect the logs now
[10:48] <Jusic> gartwitch: anyway to avoid this?
[10:49] <histo> m1xm4ster: are you sure that /media/data is mounted?
[10:49] <m1xm4ster> yes
[10:55] <m1xm4ster> histo: apparently ubuntu does not log deletions. still, the files are gone. I can see the folder in the TRASH-0 folder
[10:55] <histo> m1xm4ster:  what is the TRASH-0?
[10:58] <m1xm4ster> histo: it is a folder on that drive. files and info folder on top. the deleted folders are in files. but I don't know what that is specifically
[10:58] <histo> m1xm4ster: then cp them out of there.
[11:03] <gartwitch> histo: TRASH-0 is the folder in which files sent to the trash-bin live till you empty the trash
[11:04] <m1xm4ster> histo: alright, i'll try that
[11:09] <m1xm4ster> histo: I confused that folder with another rootfs that was deleted a month ago. [Trash Info]
[11:09] <m1xm4ster> Path=rootfs
[11:09] <m1xm4ster> DeletionDate=2015-04-17T15:35:11
[11:10] <histo> m1xm4ster: do yo uhave a backup anywhere?
[11:13] <m1xm4ster> histo: no, but I will schedule one, as soon as I reinstall the container. the container was not that important, but it is troublesome nevertheless.
[11:15] <zentaur1> Problem mit truecrypt. USB-Stick verschlüsselt mit TC 7.1a (windows 8.1) auf anderen PC (Ubuntu 15.04 mit TC 7.2) KEINE w/x Rechte. Wie mach ich das?
[11:15] <k1l> zentaur1: für deutschen support am besten in #ubuntu-de fragen. hier in #ubuntu ist alles englisch
[11:15] <zentaur1> ok :)
[11:20] <gartwitch> so anyone here really good with nvidia driver screw-y-ness?
[11:21] <rootisfortrees> Ciao a tutti sto provando una live dell'ultimo kubuntu su una macchina un pò vecchiotta. Il problema è che quando muovo le finestre o il mouse spesso lo schermo fa uno strano flickering e compaiono delle barre nere. Non capisco se è dovuto alla live usb o cosa
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> !it
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> gartwitch  simply ask the question, in the channel and in one line
[11:29] <boodllebat> Does rsync works like git if i rsync again will file already in destination will be updated or not
[11:35] <shaytan> Hi guys. I got a strange problem the other day on my Ubuntu  14.04 desktop. I didnt do any change, whatsoever(!), to my  system prior the problem. One morning I booted up my computer  and instead of default login screen I got my desktop  background! By inspecting the dconf-editor, I didn't discover  any oddities - the app was still pointing to the original
[11:35] <shaytan>  login image Even switching things around didan't help - still  got my desktop background as login background too. Any ideas?  Thanks in advance.
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> boodllebat  start here: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-use-rsync-transfer-mirror-files-directories.html
[11:42] <histo> boodllebat: only if it's been changed in the source
[11:47] <ramsub07> hello guys, I'm running ubuntu 14.04. I've sshd running and inside my sshd_config file, I've "PermitRootLogin Yes" , yet I'm not able to login to root of that machine using the root's password
[11:48] <boodllebat> histo: suppose i have src -- fileA(not changed) fileB(chnaged) || Dest -- fileA fileB
[11:48] <boodllebat> histo: will file A and B both will be updated or only A
[11:48] <histo> ramsub07: root doens't have a password by default in ubuntu. Also why are you using root to begin with
[11:49] <histo> boodllebat: b would be updated to match a
[11:49] <ramsub07> histo: I need to login into a PC's root in my subnet
[11:49] <histo> boodllebat: rsync source destination    so for b to update a  you'd have to rsync b a
[11:50] <ramsub07> histo: I submitted a blank password(just \n) didn't work..
[11:50] <gartwitch> http://paste.ubuntu.com11470983 <- how do I fix this? I have the headers installed and the nvidia drivers wn't install
[11:50] <histo> ramsub07: why?  login as  a user and use sudo
[11:51] <histo> ramsub07: well the blank password is your problem.
[11:51] <histo> !sudo | ramsub07
[11:51] <ramsub07> means my root has a password which i'm not aware of or something ?
[11:51] <histo> ramsub07: what?
[11:52] <ramsub07> histo: shouldn't my blank password have worked ?
[11:52] <boodllebat> histo: no you got my question wrong suppose i have two directory SRC and DEST both contains two files fileA and fileB , fileB in both are same but fileA is different if now i "rsync -r SRC DEST" will both filesA and fileB will be recopied from SRC to DEST or only fileA cause fileB was already same in both
[11:53] <histo> ramsub07: no
[11:53] <dima_> всем привет!
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !ru | dima_
[11:53] <ramsub07> histo: would it be something random ?
[11:53] <histo> boodllebat: yes only file a
[11:54] <boodllebat> histo: thanks :)
[11:54] <histo> ramsub07: if you set it as blank then it is blank.
[11:54] <ramsub07> I could some hash stored in shadow file against root..
[11:54] <ramsub07> histo: oh, okay
[11:54] <ramsub07> got is
[11:54] <ramsub07> *it
[11:55] <histo> ramsub07: What you're doing makes no sense
[11:58] <histo> ramsub07: Why do you need to ssh as root in the first place?
[11:58] <gartwitch> http://paste.ubuntu.com11470983 <- how do I fix this? I have the headers installed and the nvidia drivers wn't install
[11:59] <ramsub07> histo: I need to keep accessing a machine in my subnet, I'm considering for using it as a FTP server or such for other PCs in my subnet, so I thought, I'd login using root first and then remove root login, after creating a public key..
[12:00] <histo> ramsub07: Don't you have a user ont eh machine with sudo access?
[12:00] <ramsub07> histo: didn't get you ? And I've revoked the Root login
[12:01] <histo> ramsub07: how?
[12:01] <histo> ramsub07: the problem you created is even if you lock the root account root can still login via key
[12:02] <ramsub07> ^ that's what I wanted
[12:02] <histo> ramsub07: why not just use sudo like it's intended and avoid the issue all together
[12:03] <ramsub07> actually i want to restrict all the logins to only key and remove password
[12:03] <ramsub07> is that possible ?
[12:03] <ramsub07> histo: like user xyz has abc as password, yet needs the key
[12:03] <Der_Doktor> hi
[12:05] <histo> ramsub07: yeah disable password based login in sshd config
[12:05] <ramsub07> histo: my digital ocean server is also like that and wanted to maintain here, is that a good practice ?
[12:06] <histo> ramsub07: or if you want to stop them from also loging in locally you could lock their acocunts      passwd -l username   they could still log in via key but not with a password
[12:06] <drmagoo> gartwitch: do you have the package "build-essential" installed ? Are you installing the drivers from ubuntus repositories or downloaded from nvidias homepage ?
[12:06] <histo> ramsub07: digital ocean is not setup that way.
[12:06] <Der_Doktor> hello
[12:07] <ramsub07> histo: yeah, I want to stop from logging in without a key
[12:09] <ramsub07> histo: for additional security purpose, can I create a new user with GID 0 and completely disable login into current root via ssh ?
[12:09] <Der_Doktor> test
[12:09] <cfhowlett> !test | Der_Doktor
[12:09] <creeperlwd> i can't click on things when i turn on my pc, but when i run "compiz --replace &" and then "unity --reset" and log out and in i can click on things, i dont want to do that every time i boot up my pc. syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11472182/ dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11472189/
[12:10] <histo> ramsub07: NO you should be using sudo for security purposes
[12:10] <creeperlwd> there are a lot of errors in there, how would i go about fixing those
[12:11] <histo> !root | ramsub07
[12:11] <gartwitch> drmagoo: yes and yes
[12:11] <histo> ramsub07: please read that link
[12:11] <gartwitch> drmagoo: i'm installing from repos
[12:12] <ramsub07> histo: yeah, have seen that before :)
[12:12] <ramsub07> histo: I've an user that has belongs to gid 0, is there anyway by which I can make sshd_config only accessible by that user ?
[12:12] <ramsub07> or give only that particular user the write access ?
[12:13] <ahop> $ sudo echo 'LANG=en_US.UTF-8' > /etc/default/locale
[12:13] <ahop> -bash: locale: Permission denied
[12:13] <ahop> Why? I used sudo!
[12:15] <sahrul> hy
[12:15] <sahrul> Drone
[12:15] <drmagoo> gartwitch: sorry, but then I'm out of ideas.
[12:15] <sahrul> sorry
[12:16] <histo> ramsub07: you can make it so only that user can ssh in yes.
[12:17] <creeperlwd> i can't click on things when i turn on my pc, but when i run "compiz --replace &" and then "unity --reset" and log out and in i can click on things, i dont want to do that every time i boot up my pc. syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11472182/ dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11472189/ there are a lot of errors in there, how would i go about fixing tho
[12:17] <creeperlwd> se? specs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11472270/
[12:17] <histo> ramsub07: the best way would be to only allow key based logins and have only that users key authorized
[12:18] <ramsub07> histo: , that's done :)
[12:18] <histo> ramsub07: or use the AllowUsers  section
[12:18] <histo> ramsub07: or AllowGroups
[12:19] <Der_Doktor> snappy: yeah!
[12:21] <ubuntu221> You have chosen not to trust "Information Services (AD Forest)", the issuer of the server's security certificate (SSL error 61) <== can anyone help me fix it please?
[12:22] <Der_Doktor> .
[12:25] <creeperlwd> i can't click on things when i turn on my pc, but when i run "compiz --replace &" and then "unity --reset" and log out and in i can click on things, i dont want to do that every time i boot up my pc. syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11472182/ dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11472189/ there are a lot of errors in there, how would i go about fixing tho
[12:25] <creeperlwd> se? specs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11472270/
[12:26] <ubuntu996> i can't click on things when i turn on my pc, but when i run "compiz --replace &" and then "unity --reset" and log out and in i can click on things, i dont want to do that every time i boot up my pc. syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11472182/ dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11472189/ there are a lot of errors in there, how would i go about fixing those? specs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11472270/
[12:29] <creeperlwd> i can't click on things when i turn on my pc, but when i run "compiz --replace &" and then "unity --reset" and log out and in i can click on things, i dont want to do that every time i boot up my pc. syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11472182/ dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11472189/ there are a lot of errors in there, how would i go about fixing tho
[12:29] <creeperlwd> se? specs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11472270/
[12:29] <glitchd_> quick n easy fix would be to write a script the runs at boot/login to do those things for you
[12:30] <glitchd_> creeperlwd, ^^
[12:30] <creeperlwd> glitch13_: wouldnt i also need to log in and out every time?
[12:30] <glitchd_> i remember back when i was running manjaro, i had to do the same exact thing to get my system to be useable at boot.
[12:30] <Der_Doktor> hi
[12:31] <glitchd_> not necessarily..
[12:31] <glitchd_> just need to restart the services
[12:31] <creeperlwd> how would i create such a scripte?
[12:31] <creeperlwd> script?
[12:31] <glitchd_> like if i drop to a terminal and execute a command the kill my desktop then run a command to restart it, its almost essentially the same thing
[12:32] <glitchd_> are you booted right now and on your desktop?
[12:32] <creeperlwd> glitchd_: yes
[12:32] <ubuntu221> You have chosen not to trust "Information Services (AD Forest)", the issuer of the server's security certificate (SSL error 61) <== can anyone help me fix it please? This is a  Citrix Receiver issue
[12:32]  * Der_Doktor lol
[12:32] <glitchd_> creeperlwd, if you have gedit open it, or whatever program u have to writing stuff
[12:33]  * Der_Doktor lol
[12:33] <glitchd_> *have for writing stuff
[12:33] <creeperlwd> glitchd_: what do i need to type in gedit
[12:33] <glitchd_> creeperlwd, 1 sec..
[12:35] <glitchd_> creeperlwd, this has to be the first line of the script for it to work correctly
[12:35] <glitchd_> " #!/bin/bash"
[12:35] <glitchd_> without quotes
[12:36] <creeperlwd> and then? just type in those commands?
[12:36] <glitchd_> creeperlwd, next line would be the command that you use to kill and restart your desktop manager
[12:36] <glitchd_> what are the commands and ill write it up real quick
[12:37] <creeperlwd> "compiz --replace &" and
[12:37] <creeperlwd> "unity --reset"
[12:40] <glitchd_> creeperlwd, look in the pm
[12:41] <gartwitch> ugh
[12:42] <gartwitch> http://paste.ubuntu.com11470983 <- how do I fix this? I have the headers installed and the nvidia drivers from repos won't install, i have build-essential as well
[12:43] <printul> what is the non-free-java named acurated
[12:44] <printul> to make chrome work on java games
[12:44] <gartwitch> printul: you mean oracle-jvm?
[12:44] <printul> one to do god on play games like sparta on facebook
[12:44] <gartwitch> printul: it's not in repos, and chrome AFAIK has dropped support for java webstart games entirely
[12:45] <printul> i user linux mint
[12:45] <printul> ubuntu 17.1
[12:45] <cfhowlett> !mint | printul ask in the mint channel for support
[12:45] <printul> what gartwitch
[12:45] <printul> droped suport
[12:45] <printul> i did a cleaning
[12:45] <printul> apt-get autoremove
[12:46] <bazhang> printul, mint is not supported here
[12:46] <printul> hmmm
[12:46] <printul> and where is the channel
[12:46] <cfhowlett> !mint > printul
[12:46] <bazhang> see above printul
[12:50] <creeperlwd> glitchd_: my pc crashes when i run the script
[12:51] <glitchd_> that makes no sense
[12:55] <gartwitch> printul: it's not in repos, and chrome AFAIK has dropped support for java webstart games entirely
[12:55] <gartwitch> http://paste.ubuntu.com11470983 <- how do I fix this? I have the headers installed and the nvidia drivers from repos won't install, i have build-essential as well
[12:56] <AndChat|118449> I am able to connect to wifi but unable to access internet. But when I use my phone hotspot I Can surf internet
[12:56] <voiter> where do i read about how to make adminer running? the package is installed.
[12:58] <AndChat|118449> \help
[12:59] <TheNumb> AndChat|118449: maybe the wifi access point has co internet connectivity
[12:59] <TheNumb> *no
[13:00] <AndChat|118449> thenumb I am unable to use any wifi except my phone hot spot
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> AndChat|118449: ubuntu version and wifi chipset?
[13:03] <creeperlwd> glitchd_: the script worked but i still have to log out and in
[13:03] <glitchd_> thats so weird
[13:07] <r_a_x> I'm unable to access internet via wifi but gets connected to  wifi
[13:07] <glitchd_> r_a_x, check your ip
[13:08] <r_a_x> glitchd_:  it is showing an ip under wlan0
[13:09] <almark> & try to ping stuff
[13:09] <r_a_x> But I can surf net with mobile hotshot
[13:11] <almark> r_a_x can you ping your own ip address, the routers ip address et etc ?
[13:13] <r_a_x> I can ping my ip but not Google or other websites
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> r_a_x  sounds like a dns issue, can you ping 8.8.8.8
[13:15] <r_a_x> No
[13:16] <gartwitch> what's the latest kernel for 14.04?
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> gartwitch  3.13.0-53-generic
[13:18] <gartwitch> ooooook then, i found my problem
[13:20] <gartwitch> somehow I managed to get a vivid kernel on trusty >.>
[13:21]  * gartwitch has no clue how this machine booted
[13:21] <r_a_x> MonkeyDust: so what is the problem I can't ping 8.8.8.8
[13:22] <freezer__> r_a_x, google is down
[13:23] <r_a_x> freezer__:  haha so funny
[13:23] <blackflow> r_a_x: can you pastebin the output of 'ifconfig' and 'netstat -rn' ?
[13:23] <cercatrova> any idea why when restarting a background process like apache2 from a gnome-terminal in trusty the process now appears as a child of lightdm rather than init?
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> cercatrova: did you try pstree from terminal?
[13:24] <freezer__> it won't be funny for all the people entering search terms instead of addresses in the address bar of their browser
[13:24] <r_a_x> blackflow:  i am using different laptop for free node
[13:24] <cercatrova> yes that's where I see the problem. it always use to restart as a child of init so this is a recent change
[13:25] <blackflow> r_a_x: so?
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> cercatrova: wich ubuntu version?
[13:26] <yanto> hi
[13:27] <cercatrova> lotuspsychje: 14.04.2
[13:27] <r_a_x> Sorry mobile
[13:29] <freezer__> is lsb_release command available cross-distribution?
[13:29] <Delta706> I have a bug on launchpad which I can no longer reproduce. Should I close it?
[13:29] <r_a_x> Netstat -rn says   0.0.0.0   192.168.0.1   and for 192.168.0.0 gateway is 0.0.0.0
[13:30] <r_a_x> bla
[13:30] <Seveas> freezer__: yes
[13:30] <freezer__> r_a_x, can you ping 192.168.0.1 ?
[13:31] <Seveas> freezer__: that's the whole point of lsb. To have a minimal set of things that work the same everywhere so you can find out what the hell kind of OS you're on :)
[13:31] <r_a_x> freezer__:  no
[13:32] <blackflow> r_a_x: is the 0.0.0.0 destination   iface your wifi nic?
[13:32] <freezer__> Seveas, okay cool
[13:32] <r_a_x> blackflow: yes
[13:33] <blackflow> r_a_x: I'm assuming dhcp, did it get an IP?
[13:33] <blackflow> r_a_x: in the 192.168.0.0/24 subnet?
[13:33] <r_a_x> blackflow:  what us iface wifi nic
[13:33] <r_a_x> *is
[13:34] <blackflow> r_a_x: well look at the output of netstat -rn
[13:34] <blackflow> the last column is Iface ("interface"), which is your network card, and should be the wifi, like wlan0 or something
[13:35] <r_a_x> blackflow: wlan0
[13:35] <blackflow> r_a_x: right, and does wlan0 have an IP address? I'm assuming that's a dhcp based network setup?
[13:35] <knocktwice_> why is lsb not installed by default in ubuntu-14.04?
[13:35] <freezer__> r_a_x, and the IP of wlan0 was assigned automatically?
[13:36] <cybrNaut> debian question- after upgrading torsocks, i get WARNING torsocks[9387]: Config file contains unknown value: server_port = 9050 (in parse_config_line() at config-file.c:231).  the documentation simply says "This is a completely new version of torsocks. Please update to the new configuration file format."
[13:36] <r_a_x> blackflow:  subnet is 192.168.0.0/8
[13:36] <knocktwice_> lsb_release "No LSB modules are available."
[13:36] <cybrNaut> i tried "dpkg --configure torsocks", and it refused
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> cybrNaut: lsb_release -a
[13:36] <blackflow> r_a_x: /8 ? That can't be right
[13:37] <r_a_x> blackflow:  yes dhcp based
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> knocktwice_: lsb_release -a
[13:37] <cybrNaut> lotuspsychje: Debian GNU/Linux 8.0 (jessie)
[13:37] <knocktwice_> thx -- I guess lsb isn't quite ready for full release?
[13:37] <r_a_x> blackflow:  mask is 255.255.255.0
[13:37] <blackflow> r_a_x: so that's /24
[13:38] <r_a_x> blackflow:  bcast add 192.168.0.255
[13:38] <blackflow> r_a_x: does inet addr show an address, like 192.168.0.X ?
[13:38] <r_a_x> blackflow: yes
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> cybrNaut: better ask in #debian mate
[13:38] <Seveas> knocktwice_: lsb is installed by default. Modules are optional, but you should be able to get distributor id etc.
[13:38] <Guest37485> hey guys, i'm using openchrome video driver but mpv and mplayer are looking for some nvidia driver named: libvdpau_nvidia.so what can i do about it?
[13:38] <blackflow> r_a_x: and of course that's for the wlan0 entry, not eth0, correct?
[13:39] <freezer__> r_a_x, does the same wifi work from other devices?
[13:39] <r_a_x> blackflow:  sorry I counted bits from right side
[13:39] <cybrNaut> lotuspsychje: i know.. but it's dead in there.. those guys take a long break after a big release
[13:40] <freezer__> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[13:40] <freezer__>   alien at debugedit lib32z1 libjpeg62 libpod-plainer-perl librpm3 librpmbuild3 librpmio3 librpmsign1 lsb lsb-core lsb-cxx lsb-desktop lsb-graphics lsb-invalid-mta lsb-languages lsb-multimedia
[13:40] <freezer__>   lsb-printing lsb-security m4 ncurses-term pax rpm rpm-common rpm2cpio
[13:40] <freezer__> it looks like lsb_release is installed by default, but not modules and not "lsb"
[13:40] <r_a_x> blackflow: yes
[13:40] <r_a_x> freezer__: yes
[13:41] <blackflow> r_a_x: then either your wifi is broken or the router is
[13:41] <freezer__> r_a_x, well if DHCP works that means it can talk to the router at least partially
[13:42] <r_a_x> blackflow: but I can surf net using phone hot spot
[13:42] <freezer__> r_a_x, what does "dhclient wlan0" give you?
[13:42] <blackflow> r_a_x: is there anything in dmesg that would hint at a network issue?
[13:43] <VsyachePuz> how network manager chooses which interface to use as default route?
[13:43] <azizLIGHT> sillyslux: any luck with your xrandr commands taking 1.5 seconds
[13:43] <freezer__> r_a_x, probably killall dhclient  before that
[13:43] <azizLIGHT> sillyslux: i made a script to call by hotkey that increases/decreases brightness
[13:44] <r_a_x> freezer__: unable to resolve host
[13:44] <r_a_x> freezer__: retnetlik answers  : file exists
[13:45] <freezer__> r_a_x, okay try dhclient -v wlan0
[13:45] <sillyslux> no so far nothing
[13:46] <sillyslux> azizLIGHT where do you save the current value of brightness?
[13:47] <azizLIGHT> sillyslux: check my script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11473771/
[13:47] <blackflow> azizLIGHT: oh lol, a fellow 5th Element fan :)
[13:47] <azizLIGHT> hehe
[13:47] <azizLIGHT> sillyslux: you call it with either ./brightness.sh increase or ./brightness decrease
[13:47] <azizLIGHT> i had it do osd-notify when it hits max/mins
[13:48] <azizLIGHT> er, send-notify
[13:49] <azizLIGHT> sillyslux: then i assigned keyboard shortcut alt+pgup to ~/brightness.sh increase, and alt+pgdown to ~/brightness.sh decrease
[13:49] <sillyslux> mow.. aziz.. light!?!!
[13:49]  * azizLIGHT shines on all of you
[13:50] <blackflow> big bada boom!
[13:50] <azizLIGHT> hehehehe
[13:50] <AndChat|118449> freezer__:  and  whenever I open site lower left strip says resolving host
[13:51] <freezer__> AndChat|118449, you have to repeat, your connection closed
[13:53] <sillyslux> i a c sockets program that can be used with echo "1+"|nc host port
[13:53] <AndChat|118449> freezer__: I am r_a_x
[13:53] <sillyslux> i learned that i don't know c
[13:53] <Smokie> hey guys, got a question, can ubuntu be installed on a USB drive?
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> Smokie: you mean portable?
[13:54] <Smokie> lotuspsychje, yes, instead of dual boot on my laptop, i want to install it on a 64gb usb drive so if i want to use it, i just plugin my usb drive and boot from usb to a fully installed ubuntu with all the changes i made
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> Smokie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[13:56] <Smokie> lotuspsychje, i assume method 1 is what i,m looking for?
[13:56] <freezer__> AndChat|118449, sorry need to leave for now, good luck
[13:57] <AndChat|118449> freezer__:  okay bye I will try
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> Smokie: yes
[14:04] <preppy-hack> salut
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> !fr | preppy-hack
[14:05] <preppy-hack> hi
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> preppy-hack: what can we do for you?
[14:07] <preppy-hack> it is my first
[14:08] <preppy-hack> i am looking for frind
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> preppy-hack: you have joined an ubuntu channel, for support issues
[14:11] <leo> help
[14:11] <leo> leo
[14:11] <leo> elee
[14:11] <leo> hello
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> !ask | leo
[14:11] <leo> hello people
[14:11] <cfhowlett> leo, ask your ubuntu question
[14:12] <leo> why there are lot of problems with ubuntu 15.04?
[14:12] <cfhowlett> !details | leo,
[14:12] <leo> i have a problems with my cairo dock
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> !details | leo
[14:13] <gartwitch> ok, so I've fixed the driver issues, now I have another problem, this one's pretty old, the Nvidia settings aren't saving the layout of screens that i want. and I have to go in and adjust them every time I reboot... how do I make them stick?
[14:13] <leo> Oh sorry. My ocn+63
[14:16] <leo> My apps in my cairo dock moves by itself but also weird color in down
[14:17] <leo> Could do tell you if there are updates LTS ?
[14:17] <cfhowlett> !LTS | leo
[14:18] <Quantos> Slowest reboot ever I'll bet
[14:18] <oreste> ciao
[14:19] <blakwire> hi folks
[14:19] <blakwire> How can i change or install new themes for my ubuntu ?
[14:19] <leo> Ok but is that 15.04 LTS ?
[14:20] <BBLLCC> jesus christ
[14:20] <DJones> leo: 15.04 isn't an LTS
[14:20] <k1l> leo: no. 14.04 is lts. and 16.04 will be.
[14:20] <cfhowlett> leo, if you read the link, it's clerly not.
[14:20] <blakwire> leo: no I am running 14.0.4.2 LTS
[14:20] <BBLLCC> im now compiling information from a pdf, several tables, lots of numeric data
[14:20] <patriciomi> boa tarde
[14:21] <patriciomi> good afternon
[14:21] <leo> there fore 16.04 will be long terme Support ?
[14:21] <cfhowlett> leo, correct.
[14:21] <BBLLCC> i downloaded the pdf document and im seeing the document with document viewer, but i cannot select just a row, but whole chunks of say, 20 rows and columns
[14:21] <BBLLCC> what app could I use?
[14:21] <leo> Ok thanks you
[14:21] <BBLLCC> what pdf viewer should I use?
[14:22] <patriciomi> from brasil   help
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> BBLLCC: try online pdf editors, there are plenty you can use to edit
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> !br | patriciomi
[14:22] <BBLLCC> no linux alternative?
[14:22] <leo> I have a other questions,i have problems with WINE?
[14:22] <patriciomi> tank you
[14:23] <k1l> leo: since wine is very complex better ask the wine specialists in #winehq
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> BBLLCC: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16652/which-programs-can-i-use-to-edit-pdf-files
[14:23] <blakwire> folks?
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> !theme | blakwire
[14:25] <patriciomi> bom dia
[14:25] <patriciomi> como se entra no serv  ubuntu br
[14:26] <blakwire> alright thanks, but will i be able to run these themes on my ubuntu 14.0.4 LTS ? cause they say gnome and all, but I think ubuntu runs on unity out of the box
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> patriciomi: type /join #ubuntu-br
[14:26] <patriciomi> ok
[14:29] <patriciomi> boa tarde
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> !br
[14:36] <zald-23> coud you tell me how to make code python work when i am open ubuntu?
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> !python | zald-23
[14:37] <zald-23> thanks ubottu
[14:41] <leo> leo
[14:41] <leo> I have problems with Wine
[14:42] <leo> ya des francais ?
[14:42] <vagon> what's problem dude
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> leo: k1l already suggested you specific channels like #wine
[14:42] <OerHeks> That channel is english only too.
[14:43] <leo> iMPOSSIBLE install Microsft Office With WINE
[14:43] <vagon> whats version?
[14:43] <k1l> leo: see http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/wine  and ask in #ubuntu-fr for french help
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | leo
[14:46] <leo> WIne 1.6.2. Ok thanks , Yes i hae use playonlinux
[14:46] <vagon> version of ms office i mean
[14:49] <leo> Microsoft Office pro plus 2013
[14:50] <vagon> you can't install that
[14:50] <vagon> ms office 2010 x32 this last version that can be installed
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> leo: is there something you cant do with libreoffice?
[14:53] <leo> Yes but i prefer office Microsoft
[14:54] <pwca> I would be very happy to find a way to run Word on Wine too.
[14:54] <pwca> LibreOffice doesn't really support things like math mode in Word.
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> pwca: playonlinux
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> pwca: and there are ms office unity webapps too
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> pwca  try this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/run-microsoft-office-web-apps-ubuntu-desktop
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: +1 :p
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  have been using this for months now
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: working nice?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> didnt test myself
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  i'm happy enough with it
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: ok tnx
[15:02] <nook> Hi since i installed ubuntu 15.04 my hdparm is not working anymore. i put "hdparm -S 120 /dev/sda" to my /etc/rc.local but my hdd is still running all the time, is there a workaround for?
[15:02] <pwca> MonkeyDust: there's no math mode in this?
[15:03] <bekks> nook: Why do you want to forcibly shorten its lifetime? :)
[15:06] <nook> bekks: the PC is 24/7 online and its noisy ;)
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> nook: what hd brand?
[15:06] <nook> WD
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> nook: wd's make lots of noise, try a nice silent ssd in your machine :p
[15:08] <nook> lotuspsychje: ther is a SSD but SSDs don't provide cheap space these days ...
[15:08] <bekks> nook: Then either life with the noise, or shorten the lifetime of your hdd.
[15:08] <nook> if i run hdparm -y /dev/sda it will instant spin down
[15:09] <nook> bekks: hdparm will not spin down my HDD (i don't give a shit of lifetime in this case)
[15:09] <lattera> anyone running i3wm? I'm curious how well it works on ubuntu, especially on a laptop with a docking station
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> nook: you can combine it 120gig samsung 850 pro as ubuntu hd, and a larger WD as data storage
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> lattera: there is an official channel for that, but forget its name
[15:10] <nook> lotuspsychje: thats exactly what i done - but ubuntu since 15.04 hdparm stoped working (i guess due to systemd) and will not spin down the HDD any more
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> nook: then choose more stable LTS ubuntu
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> nook: or play around with fstab entries
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> lattera: #i3
[15:11] <nook> lotuspsychje: fstab can spin down disks?
[15:12] <lattera> lotuspsychje: ah, thanks
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> nook: well i use fstab entries to tune my ssd, not sure for mechnical drives
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> nook: sounds like bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hdparm/+bug/1448542
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> pwca  you can also install windows in a virtual machine and use ms office there
[15:15] <nook> lotuspsychje: yes i found this as well, this is why a add "hdparm -S 120 /dev/sda" to my /etc/rc.local file
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> nook: maybe you should file a new bug, with your specific issue?
[15:16] <nook> lotuspsychje: is hdparm running as process on your system if you grep ps output?
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> nook: im on 14.04 here and have ssd
[15:21] <nook> lotuspsychje: hm may be this will work: http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/89013
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> nook: http://info4admins.com/tips-to-spindown-your-hard-disk-in-debian-or-ubuntu/
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> nook: it also says what bekks suggested, Switching off the hard disk too often is not good for the lifetime of the hard disk.
[15:23] <gartwitch> erhg
[15:23] <gartwitch> oops
[15:26] <nook> lotuspsychje: i added the systemd stuff now - keep fingers crossed that it will work
[15:34] <sgo11> hi, iwconfig wlan0 scan can only return 1 cell. but the NetworkManager can see many. why?
[15:43] <sgo11> ok, showing more results with sudo.
[15:43] <ioria> sudo iwlist scan
[15:45] <ugtuc> hello everyone! I have several keyboard settings. and lately the keyboard switches from one to the other randomly. to get the correct keyboard again I need each time to go to the system tray and select the corresponding language.
[15:45] <ugtuc> can I solve this?
[15:46] <sgo11> ioria, thanks. :)
[15:46] <ioria> sgo11, np
[15:48] <nook> bekks: solved the hdparm problem with a little PHP script that spin down the hdd if the disc is in idle for >= 10 minutes -.-
[15:49] <quants> Hi guys, my keyboard seems to be wrong, i think i need to set it up for the uk
[15:53] <sgo11> In network manager, it shows the 4 bars for wireless signal. is that Quality or Signal Level? thanks.
[15:54] <ioria> link quality
[15:55] <nook> quants: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[15:56] <quants> nook thank you
[15:56] <sgo11> ioria, got it. thanks.
[15:56] <ioria> sgo11, you can check with iwconfig
[15:57] <sgo11> ioria, yeah, I saw that. that's why I am confused whether the bars represent the quality or signal level since iwlist shows both Quality and Signal Level in the output.
[15:59] <ioria> sgo11, the sig level is in dBm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBm
[16:00] <sgo11> ioria, thanks. regarding 11n or 11g, which one will provide more range? right now, my router doest not give a good range and it's running in 11g. I am thinking to change to 11n.
[16:03] <quants> how do i upgrade my distro using the terminal?
[16:03] <nook> quants: run do-release-upgrade
[16:04] <quants> nook will that give me the most recent lts version?
[16:04] <DJones> quants: Which version fo you have
[16:04] <nook> if your using ssh ubuntus default welcome message will inform you about new releases and how to upgrade
[16:05] <quants> DJones 14.04 lts
[16:06] <DJones> quants: There isn't a new lts release since 14.04, so you'd be upgraded to 14.10
[16:06] <nook> quants: there is now newer LTS release at the moment, next LTS release will be 16.04
[16:06] <lattera> which application is responsible for the sound mixer systray icon?
[16:06] <ioria> sgo11, not sure... maybe is the router, or congestioned area
[16:07] <DJones> quants: If you want LTS, stay with 14.04 until April 2016, if you upgrade to 14.10, you'll also need to upgrade to 15.04 before mid July to continue getting updates/support
[16:07] <sgo11> ioria, thanks. I am asking this question in #openwrt. :)
[16:07] <ioria> sgo11, the specs are here http://www.rfwireless-world.com/Articles/difference_bw_11a_11b_11g_11n.html
[16:08] <sgo11> ioria, got it. will read it. cheers.
[16:08] <ioria> cheers
[16:12] <georoot> hi i got a question how can i add favicons in linux bash shell? is it possible?
[16:13] <nook> georoot: favicons in bash? what do you mean by this?
[16:14] <georoot> i need to use favicons at some specific place in vim. similar to what airline does in vim.
[16:14] <georoot> they have a separate font pack for themselves
[16:18] <nook> georoot: no idea sorry, you can print UTF8 chars like echo -e '\U1F37A' but thats all i know^^
[16:19] <Razzdoll> Hello peeps
[16:19] <georoot> nook: np thanks anyway :)
[16:21] <Razzdoll> Does anyone suggest going the 15.04 route? The site doesn't recommend it because of the LTS
[16:21] <Razzdoll> Or... lack of LTS ?
[16:21] <DJones> Razzdoll: It depends on your use, I use Non-lts releases without issue, but if you're running a server, I'd stick with LTS
[16:23] <Razzdoll> DJones, it would be for desktop non-server use. Everyday use. Though, I do keep my system up and run things to be a server (but for just me), I don't think you would consider that really a 'server' as most do.
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> !br
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> oops, sorry
[16:26] <Razzdoll> DJones, what do you think?
[16:33] <sutija> hi everyone. :)
[16:34] <kinduff_> hey sutija
[16:35] <Razzdoll> Does anyone have other suggestions?
[16:36] <sutija> @Razzdoll about what?
[16:36] <nook> Razzdoll: im using 15.04 on my HTPC but have some problems that hdparm is not working for example
[16:36] <nook> on my desktop im still on 14.10
[16:36] <nook> on my servers 14.04 LTS so this depends on your needs
[16:37] <thomedy> hello... does anyone have any experience with ffmpeg... i am trying to convert video to h264 and i have tried a hundred different methodes i even un installed and recompiled from source the ffmpeg command and i am hitting an error
[16:38] <thomedy> i get libx264 isnt available but i manually -enable it last night
[16:39] <ioria> thomedy, ffmpeg -i infile.mp4 -an -vcodec libx264 -crf 23 outfile.h264 not working ?
[16:40] <Razzdoll> nook: i plan on using it for non server stuff as I have a VPS with a company, but I do leave it on for access when I am not home.
[16:40] <Razzdoll> So I can ssh into it
[16:40] <darthanubis> thomedy, try handbrake
[16:40] <gartral|2> when is 13.10 EoL'd for servers?
[16:41] <gartral|2> !eol
[16:42] <ubuntuidiot> can someone help me install citrix receiver. I can't seem to do it right. SSL error 61
[16:42] <nook> Razzdoll: witch version do you use at the moment?
[16:42] <ubuntuidiot> 13.1 something
[16:43] <Razzdoll> nook, i use no version. windows8. lol, but destroying windows for ubuntu desktop :) - i have beginner to moderate linux experience
[16:43] <Razzdoll> nook, hence my question as of now :)
[16:44] <ubuntuidiot> please can someone help me install citrix receiver? I can't seem to do it right. SSL error 61
[16:45] <pwca> ubuntuidiot: how are you installing it?
[16:46] <nook> Razzdoll: hm hard question, may be LTS or just try it^^
[16:46] <jose__> ffff
[16:47] <ubuntuidiot> @pwca not really sure... am just fumbling around
[16:47] <ioria> could a  SHA-2 encryption issue
[16:48] <pwca> ubuntuidiot: which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[16:48] <nook> ubuntuidiot: have you ccheckd this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo ?
[16:48] <ubuntuidiot> @pwca 14.04 I could do with someone holding my hand step by step
[16:48] <pwca> ubuntuidiot: read the howto nook posted.
[16:49] <Razzdoll> nook, thanks i'll just go with 14.04 I think, but then, is it easy to upgrade to 15.04 or will I need to reformat my data.
[16:50] <ThinkT510> Razzdoll: to upgrade you'll need to go through 14.10 first then to 15.04
[16:50] <ThinkT510> Razzdoll: but you can upgrade directly between lts releases
[16:50] <nook> Razzdoll: in ubuntu software center you can select if ubuntu should notify you for new version you can select LTS or ALL version and that update using the GUI interface
[16:50] <nook> very easy ;)
[16:50] <BluesKaj> Razzdoll, you'll need to upgrade to 14.10 first then to 15.04 since it's not LTS
[16:50] <ubuntuidiot> i have tried those steps. I think that the program is on the machine. but when i try to launch the application is mentions something about not trusting a certificate (SSL error 61) and I can't proceed
[16:50] <pwca> Razzdoll: bear in mind that it is much better to do a clean install than to go 14.10 and then 15.04.
[16:50] <Razzdoll> Wait - Thank you all for your help! 14.10? There is no 14.10 on the website. Am I missing something.
[16:51] <pwca> ubuntuidiot: are you using 64bit or 32bit?
[16:51] <ubuntuidiot> 64 bit
[16:51] <ThinkT510> Razzdoll: the website will show the latest release and the latest lts
[16:51] <Razzdoll> ubuntuidiot you stole my inner name lol!
[16:51] <BluesKaj> Razzdoll, or go directly to 15.04
[16:51] <pwca> ubuntuidiot: and you downloaded the 64bit client here? https://www.citrix.com/downloads/citrix-receiver/linux/receiver-for-linux-131.html
[16:52] <ubuntuidiot> @razdoll trust me i am a complete retard when it comes to linux
[16:52] <ThinkT510> Razzdoll: the update manager will offer you 14.10 if you want to upgrade from 14.04
[16:52] <ubuntuidiot> @pwca yes i did
[16:53] <thomedy> ioria, i just saw your post...i saw that one but maybe in my inexperience didn't think that h264 as a file name would be good
[16:53] <thomedy> i ddidn' t tryr that
[16:53] <thomedy> i thought i was looking for mp4 with h264 encoding
[16:53] <Razzdoll> I am only asking about these versions because when I grab software it says 14.04, and nothing for 15.04 yet as I think it is brand new.
[16:53] <pwca> ubuntuidiot: so what happens when you double click the .deb file?
[16:53] <ioria> thomedy, it was an example
[16:54] <ThinkT510> Razzdoll: lts are recommended because they are supported for 5 years
[16:54] <thomedy> it says unrecognized option crf
[16:54] <thomedy> and i have gotten that before
[16:54] <nook> Razzdoll: software like?
[16:54] <ubuntuidiot> it installs through the software centre
[16:54] <pwca> ubuntuidiot: did you read the howto nook sent to you?
[16:54] <pwca> ubuntuidiot: including this bit? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo#A5._Add_more_SSL_certificates
[16:54] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, are you using firefox ?
[16:55] <Razzdoll> nook: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/virtualbox/downloads/index.html (it only goes to 14.04)
[16:55] <ubuntuidiot> @pwca @ioria yes i read it, still get the SSL error 61. I have chrome and firefox - it doesn't work on either browser
[16:56] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1021756
[16:56] <nook> ubuntuidiot: check the "5. Add more SSL certificates" section in the how to
[16:56] <pwca> ubuntuidiot: did you do what was suggested?
[16:57] <nook> Razzdoll: on linux systems you are using the packet manager to install software, in Ubuntu this is apt, so if you want to install virtualbox you run
[16:57] <nook> "apt-get install virtualbox"
[16:57] <nook> or using the software center
[16:57] <Razzdoll> nook: oh!, so no need to go to different websites?
[16:58] <nook> nop
[16:58] <Razzdoll> nook, ok thank you.
[16:58] <nook> the only software i installed from a website was Goolge Chrome for Netflix ;)
[16:58] <ubuntuidiot> @pwca yes i did that step
[16:58] <Razzdoll> nook - i appreciate your courtesy!
[16:58] <bazhang> !manual | Razzdoll have a read
[16:59] <nook> :)
[16:59] <bazhang> !rute | Razzdoll and these too
[16:59] <pwca> ubuntuidiot: which browser are you using?
[16:59] <ThinkT510> !software | Razzdoll
[16:59] <ubuntuidiot> @pwca chrome and firefox
[16:59] <Razzdoll> thanks bazhang, I'll read that for sure, you too ThinkT510 ;)
[17:00] <pwca> ubuntuidiot: and then I assume you did step 8. and 9. as well.
[17:01] <ubuntuidiot> @pwca yes... now in chrome when clicking the application it tries to launch a file called launch.ica then doesn't open the program
[17:02] <pwca> ubuntuidiot: why doesn't it open the program?
[17:02] <pwca> "launch.ica" is the launcher.
[17:02] <ubuntuidiot> @pwca no idea
[17:02] <pwca> what happens
[17:03] <ubuntuidiot> @pwca launch.ica appears in a bar at the bottom of the screen (where downloaded files appear)... then nothing
[17:03] <pwca> so, there is no SSL error in Chrome?
[17:03] <ubuntuidiot> @pwca that's correct, only in firefox now
[17:04] <gartral|2> guys...? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11477092/
[17:04] <gartral|2> that happened on a do-release-upgrade
[17:05] <Seveas> gartral|2: you have hit ^C, this aborts things.
[17:05] <Seveas> gartral|2: was it hanging, basically doing nothing?
[17:05] <gartral|2> Seveas: yep, but I'm used to things silently dying, not puking then dying
[17:05] <gartral|2> Seveas: yes
[17:06] <ubuntuidiot> @pwca its like its trying to launch something from a folder where there isn't any files... maybe?
[17:06] <pwca> ubuntuidiot: sorry, I don't know. I have to leave.
[17:06] <ubuntuidiot> @pwca ok thanks anyway
[17:06] <pwca> try to run launch.ica from terminal or by right clicking it and clicking run with Citrix.
[17:06] <Seveas> gartral|2: you killed it while it was in the early stages of upgrading, all should be fine. It's a bit disappointing that it bombed out with this traceback instead of a nice error but it doesn't hurt.
[17:07] <pwca> you will want to see if there's some error message when you try to run it.
[17:07] <pwca> sounds like that's the problem. maybe Ubuntu is trying to run it with the wrong program.
[17:07] <ubuntuidiot> in terminal when i ttype launch.ica it says command not found
[17:07] <pwca> that's not how you run Citrix.
[17:08] <nook> ubuntuidiot: try citrix [TAB] --help
[17:08] <pwca> but, right click on it and it "Open with" and click "Citrix Receiver Engine."
[17:08] <oraclexzf> Hey, does anyone know what the numpad keys are called in bash? I'm trying to make aliases for them
[17:09] <oraclexzf> numpad 0-9
[17:09] <Seveas> just 0-9
[17:09] <oraclexzf> wont that change my left row 0-9 as well
[17:09] <nook> i need to go, good luck ubuntuidiot :)
[17:09] <ubuntuidiot> thats when it says: you have chosen not to trust "information services AD Forest" server error 61
[17:10] <ubuntuidiot> @nook thanks
[17:10] <oraclexzf> guess ill try it anyway
[17:10] <Seveas> oraclexzf: *left* row 0-9?
[17:11] <oraclexzf> Seavas, no the numbers for numpad
[17:11] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, preferences - advanced - certificate - view certificate - edit trust - validate - restart firefox ?
[17:12] <gartral|2> Seveas: upgrading a 13.10 server to 14.05
[17:12] <gartral|2> er... 14.04
[17:12] <oraclexzf> dang wish the bash reference index wasn't awful
[17:13] <Seveas> gartral|2: that's a bit late :)
[17:14] <Seveas> gartral|2: when I have to do beyond-eol upgrades I tend to not use do-release-upgrade, but just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and do apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:14] <Seveas> followed by some cleaning with apt-get autoremove and debfoster
[17:14] <AgentShark> I'm trying to get Ubuntu onto a laptop but I am brand new to it all. Where do I begin
[17:15] <ubuntuidiot> @ioria edit trust is greyed out
[17:15] <gartral|2> Seveas: care to join me in #ubuntu-server?
[17:15] <AgentShark> me?
[17:15] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, you have to select the one, can you see the citrix certificate ?
[17:16] <ubuntuidiot> @ioria no there's nothing called information services (AD Forest)
[17:16] <ubuntuidiot> @ioria can it be downloaded from somewhere?
[17:16] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, and thawte ssl ca ?
[17:17] <ubuntuidiot> @ioria the thawte one is there
[17:18] <ThinkT510> AgentShark: first you download the release you want and burn it to a dvd or usb
[17:18] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, try to click on edit trust
[17:19] <ubuntuidiot> @ioria ok... then tick (check) all boxes?
[17:20] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, try... validate and restart
[17:21] <ubuntuidiot> @ioria i ticked all boxes, there was no validate option. i pressed ok. then restarted the brower. same error.
[17:21] <Razzdoll> i will be back when ubuntu is installed!
[17:22] <fkaduck> The name "Ubuntu" comes from teh african meaning of "I cant install debian"
[17:22] <fkaduck> not sure if you guys knew that
[17:22] <Seveas> fkaduck: 2004 called and wants its jokes back...
[17:22] <fkaduck> haha
[17:22] <fkaduck> i dont have caller id
[17:22] <fkaduck> i couldnt tell it was 2004
[17:23] <ubuntuidiot> @ioria where do i find the validate option?
[17:25] <jeeves_moss> is there a "crash log" in Ubuntu? I'm trying to track down an issue with a beaglebone.  I'm thinking it's power related, but I don't have a way of testing that right now with a meater.
[17:27] <ThinkT510> jeeves_moss: you could check out /var/log/syslog
[17:27] <ubuntuidiot> would anyone like to teamviewer to try to troubleshoot my SSL error 61 citrix problem
[17:27] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, maybe you need a certificate  http://www.entrust.net/knowledge-base/technote.cfm?tn=5691
[17:28] <jeeves_moss> ThinkT510, that was the first place I hit, and there's nothing in there.  I think what's going on is that there is a voltage swing that's pulling the eMMC low when it's trying to boot.  I put software sleep loops into the start up for the GSM and GPS radios, but I don't think we even get that far.  I might have to get out the iron and make up a serial cable to plug into the debug port
[17:30] <ubuntuidiot> @ioria none of them refer to Information Services (AD Forest)
[17:33] <levo> What do you suggest: we have android devices, no internet. A router and a laptop. I want to be able to have voice chat between devices. What do you suggest? Any good voice server on ubuntu and corresponding clients. Or any other methods..?
[17:33] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, i have no clue what Inf Serv AD Forest is
[17:33] <jeeves_moss> ThinkT510, btw, nice choice on the laptop!  T60 here
[17:33] <ubuntuidiot> @ioria... me neither, i guess its a certificate
[17:34] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, google should say something about it , then
[17:35] <ubuntuidiot> @ioria hmmm lots about forestry stewardship. nothing obvious about downloading a certificate
[17:37] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, AD could means Active Directory...
[17:38] <ThinkT510> jeeves_moss: always been a thinkpad fan but i'm sorry i'm of no help with your issue
[17:40] <OerHeks> ubuntuidiot, maybe this page is any help with your citrix issue:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo
[17:41] <jeeves_moss> wow, one out of ever 7 boots results in a working system.  Something is seriously wrong with the power supply on this unit
[17:42] <OerHeks> jeeves_moss, could be bad ram too
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[17:43] <jeeves_moss> OerHeks, true.  It's a beaglebone Black.  I need to compile a custom Kernel so I don't have to do all of the setup over again, and try to second unit I have
[17:45] <bekks> jeeves_moss: Do you have any output of those errors?
[17:46] <jeeves_moss> bekks, not that I've seen.  I need to get my soldering iron out and make up a cable for the console cable.  When I get home, I'll hook it up to the bench supply and see what it does.  if memory serves, it draws close to 10A at boot, and the wall wart I have maxes out at 2A.  But its made in China, so I'm going to put money on it only outputting 1.2A
[17:49] <jeeves_moss> bekks, there's also a ground issue when you plug it into the USB port on a laptop.  So, I'm not sure why there is a 0.3-0.7V offset between the laptop ground, and the board ground.  The shielding on the USB should be tied to each unit's ground point, but this one "floats".
[17:49] <KSFT> how do I run a .jar with a double-click?
[17:49] <KSFT> I tried to install Java, but I'm not sure I did it right
[17:49] <ubuntuidiot> @ioria i have found the certificate in firefox... but when i try to add it to ICAClient/keystore/cacerts it wont let me (access denied0
[17:49] <bekks> jeeves_moss: Sounds like a serious hardware issue, which cannot be solved by software, Ubuntu in this case.
[17:49] <jeeves_moss> KSFT,  is it a GUI program?  if not, CLI it
[17:50] <KSFT> jeeves_moss: It is
[17:50] <KSFT> .
[17:50] <KSFT> a GUI program, that is
[17:50] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, did you install citrix with the .deb file ?
[17:50] <bekks> KSFT: Just create a starter for it, running "java -jar yourfile.jar"
[17:50] <jeeves_moss> bekks, yea.  welcome to the wonderful world of embedded design.  the BBB is a great board, but when you start adding capes to it, the quality control isn't there.
[17:50] <jeeves_moss> bekks, damn it.  you beat me to the answer!
[17:50] <bekks> jeeves_moss: The QC is you, actually :)
[17:50] <OerHeks> KSFT, make a launcher for it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[17:51] <jeeves_moss> bekks, when you buy a cape from a company, you'd expect they've tested it.
[17:51] <ubuntuidiot> @ioria yes DEB
[17:51] <xzhibit> Is google chrome worth the install?
[17:51] <bekks> jeeves_moss: If I start to modify it, I dont. :>
[17:51] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, its locate din (opt ?
[17:51] <xzhibit> I've heard about the RAM hogging, is it true?
[17:52] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, its locate in /opt ?
[17:52] <bekks> jeeves_moss: So actually not an Ubuntu issue. Fix your grounding issues first.
[17:52] <ubuntuidiot> @ioria yes it is
[17:52] <OerHeks> xzhibit, it is worth installing it, to find out hte answer :-D
[17:52] <jeeves_moss> bekks, it still locks up when it's stand alone on a psu!  Hence why I think it's a sag issue.  I'll throw the scope on it when I get home
[17:53] <ubuntuidiot> @ioria /opt/Citrix/ICAClient
[17:53] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, try to redo sudo ln -s /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/* /opt/Citrix/ICAClient/keystore/cacerts/   and sudo c_rehash /opt/Citrix/ICAClient/keystore/cacerts/
[17:53] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, wait...
[17:53] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, ln -s /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/* /opt/Citrix/ICAClient/keystore/cacerts/   with sudo
[17:54] <ioria> ubuntuidiot, and then rehash it... sudo c_rehash /opt/Citrix/ICAClient/keystore/cacerts/
[17:54] <KSFT> so, I should create a .sh to run the .jar, then a .desktop to run the .sh?
[17:55] <bekks> KSFT: No. Create a .desktop running java -jat yourfile.jar
[17:55] <KSFT> like "Exec=java -jar jarfile.jar"?
[17:56] <bekks> KSFT: Use the full path to the java binary.
[17:56] <KSFT> okay
[17:56] <OerHeks> :-)
[17:57] <drakedouay2> I just installed a new wifi card in my laptop. How can I update my drivers?
[17:57] <KSFT> "There was an error launching the application"
[17:57] <jacklondon> hi all
[17:58] <KSFT> it says "Exec is the path to the executable file"
[17:58] <KSFT> are you sure a command like
[17:58] <KSFT> oops
[17:58] <KSFT> are you sure a command like "java -jar file.jar" works?
[17:58] <xzhibit> Also how do I install a tar.gz icon pack in 14.04?
[17:59] <KSFT> bekks?
[17:59] <jParkton> lol
[17:59] <jParkton> some of this is googleable
[18:00] <jacklondon> How to restore unity icons, I unfortunatly did a "unity --reset-icons", and all my icons disappears to come back to the install state. I think all my shortcuts are here, but don't know to restore this state, anyone can help ?
[18:00] <mcmillhj> anyone know how I can build valgrind for kernel 4.x? I modified to configure script to allow 4.x when querying uname -r, but now it is complaining that my glibc is too high of a version
[18:00] <OerHeks> xzhibit, double click on it, fileroller will open, extract, and read the read.me
[18:01] <OerHeks> mcmillhj, wait for kernel 4.x is stable, using the kernel-ppa can give issues, but we do not support it yet.
[18:02] <mcmillhj> OerHeks: Ah ok, is there any difference if I am not using the kernel-ppa and built from source ?
[18:03] <xzhibit> OerHeks I did, but they have instructions for older versions
[18:03] <mcmillhj> OerHeks: Or still not supported? I can work out of a VM if I need to; I am just curious
[18:03] <OerHeks> mcmillhj, you will get the same issues i guess?
[18:03] <mcmillhj> OerHeks: Ok, that's a slight bummer because I need 4.0+ to make this machine work well
[18:03] <mcmillhj> OerHeks: Thanks for the hlep
[18:04] <drakedouay2> I cannot see 5ghz wifi spots even though my card is supposed to support it. I think I may need to update the drivers. Could someone help me out?
[18:05] <KSFT> okay
[18:06] <KSFT> I give up on the .desktop file
[18:06] <KSFT> why is my .sh opening in Emacs when I double click it on the desktop?
[18:06] <zubair> i give up on desktop environments!
[18:06] <KSFT> hah
[18:06] <KSFT> I did that months ago
[18:06] <zubair> does it help?
[18:07] <KSFT> what?
[18:07] <KSFT> giving up on desktop environments?
[18:07] <zubair> Cuz it seems pointless to type long commands when you can click and do stuff
[18:07] <KSFT> how do I get my .sh file to run when I double-click it?
[18:08] <xzhibit> KSFT I don't know, I've always done that from the terminal
[18:08] <roy_> I made a bash file which needs to create a directory, but it keeps saying cant create directory
[18:08] <xzhibit> ./file.sh
[18:09] <zubair> http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/313
[18:09] <ioria> KSFT in my case, the .desktop has to call a script that first, cd in the executable folder and the call the .sh,otherwise it's not working
[18:09] <KSFT> no, I'm just trying to run the .sh itself now
[18:09] <zubair> http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/313
[18:09] <KSFT> when I double-click it, it opens in Emacs
[18:10] <zubair> KFST, please click the link I gave you
[18:10] <KSFT> okay
[18:10] <zubair> and Read!
[18:10] <KSFT> that does not help
[18:10] <KSFT> I know how to run it from the terminal
[18:11] <KSFT> I want to run it with a double-click
[18:11] <zubair> follow till step 5
[18:11] <zubair> sorry, till 4
[18:11] <zubair> and then try double clicking
[18:12] <zubair> btw this new Xfce rocks
[18:12] <KSFT> it is executable
[18:13] <zubair> A bit easier solution, right click the .sh file, choose properties (the last option) then choose the permissions tab, and select the "allow executing file as program" box, and then hit apply, and presto.
[18:13] <KSFT> I know
[18:13] <KSFT> it is executable already
[18:13] <jParkton> lies
[18:13] <ekh> Hello.
[18:13] <jParkton> ls -l that thing
[18:13] <KSFT> what?
[18:13] <zubair> what error do you get?
[18:13] <KSFT> I'm not getting an error
[18:13] <KSFT> it opens in Emacs when I double-click it
[18:13] <ekh> If I run /script.ext & then closed the terminal, how do I capture that process' output from another terminal?
[18:14] <jParkton> oh lol
[18:14] <jParkton> you run it by doing ./filename.sh
[18:14] <zubair> your script is flawed
[18:14] <zubair> needs to be reviewed, code wise
[18:14] <snkcld> there should be a service where like, you find someone on IRC to help you with a problem then you just bitcoin them some money
[18:14] <KSFT> it says "java -jar /home/[username]/Downloads/ClassiCube.jar"
[18:14] <jorrakay> I can't upgrade to 14.04.2! Where is the 'binary-armhf' folder? http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/
[18:14] <KSFT> that's all it contains
[18:15] <jorrakay> How do I browse mirrors by arch?
[18:15] <jParkton> so just run that command
[18:15] <ekh> anyone?
[18:15] <zubair> yeah, tried running that in Terminal?
[18:15] <KSFT> yeah, it works
[18:15] <jParkton> KSFT: cd ~/Downloads && java -jar ClassiCube.jar
[18:15] <KSFT> okay
[18:16] <KSFT> it's still opening in Emacs
[18:16] <jParkton> what the heck?
[18:16] <jParkton> what is in that jar?
[18:16] <ioria> KSFT maybe in General, you have: Open with : emacs
[18:16] <zubair> he is missing out something in the .sh file
[18:16] <jorrakay> What do I do when us.archive.ubuntu.com has no packages for my arch? Am I SOL/need to build from sources?
[18:16] <KSFT> the .sh is opening in Emacs
[18:16] <KSFT> not the .jar
[18:16] <jParkton> dont ru the sh
[18:17] <snkcld> anyone know what this means? could not set the configuration for CRTC 64
[18:17] <KSFT> when I run the .sh from a terminal, it works fine
[18:17] <ioria> KSFT click Properties, and check Open with
[18:17] <KSFT> it lists text editors
[18:17] <jParkton> you need to assosciate the filetype with a default program to execute it
[18:17] <KSFT> how?
[18:18] <jParkton> properties
[18:18] <jParkton> there should be an other option there to open more programs
[18:18] <KSFT> how do I associate it with the shell?
[18:18] <ioria> KSFT so emacs is your default editor ?
[18:18] <KSFT> I guess
[18:19] <snkcld> is it possible to just completely disable ubuntus "automonitor setup" whenever i plug in a new monitor? i want to just handle that by hand because i keep getting "could not set the configuration for CRTC 64" from ubuntu
[18:19] <jParkton> doesnt the shell script need an #! /bin/bash or some jazz?
[18:19] <ioria> KSFT can you paste the .sh ?
[18:20] <jParkton> yes
[18:20] <KSFT> "#!/bin/bash\n\ncd ~/Downloads && java -jar ClassiCube.jar"
[18:20] <KSFT> the "\n"s are newlines
[18:20] <ioria> wtf
[18:21] <KSFT> ?
[18:21] <jParkton> lol
[18:21] <jParkton> no
[18:21] <KSFT> huh?
[18:21] <ioria> wha is \n\n ?
[18:21] <KSFT> newlines
[18:21] <KSFT> it doesn't say "\n" in the file
[18:22] <jParkton> remove that mess
[18:22] <KSFT> multiline IRC messages don't work
[18:22] <knocktwice_> "#!" means 'execute this text file by running the specified program and giving the rest of the text to it"
[18:22] <KSFT> #!/bin/bash
[18:22] <jorrakay> KSFT: use hastebin.com
[18:22] <KSFT> cd ~/Downloads && java -jar ClassiCube.jar
[18:22] <ioria> error
[18:22] <KSFT> that's the entire file
[18:22] <KSFT> two lines
[18:22] <jParkton> just dont use the newline chars
[18:22] <KSFT> the file is fine
[18:22] <KSFT> how do I set it to open with bash?
[18:23] <KSFT> I have to go now
[18:23] <jParkton> good
[18:23] <jParkton> toodles
[18:23] <knocktwice_> KSFT: make sure the first line is #!/bin/bash, set it to executable
[18:23] <KSFT> it is
[18:23] <KSFT> gtg
[18:23] <KSFT> be back in a few hours to fix this
[18:24] <ioria> well, if from terminal works, it's ok
[18:24] <jParkton> ^
[18:24] <jParkton> this aint windows
[18:25] <jorrakay> Why are all the binary-armhf packages missing from the main ubuntu repos???
[18:26] <levo> sorry i go dc.ed. anyone answered my question? "do you know of any good voice servers having a client for android devices?"
[18:27] <jParkton> jorrakay: I see them in precise not in lucid
[18:28] <jorrakay> jParkton: that's exactly my problem. But yeah I'm actually looking to move to Trusty
[18:28] <jorrakay> I really don't get it
[18:29] <k1l> jorrakay: for arm questions you might want to ask in #ubuntu-arm see their topic
[18:29] <jorrakay> Oh okay thanks k11
[18:30] <jParkton> what is a hard float anyway
[18:30] <jParkton> sounds like boss programmer level
[18:30] <jParkton> float(1.1).hard
[18:31] <jorrakay> that just means that it has hardware float support
[18:31] <jorrakay> as opposed to other arm archs like armel
[18:31] <jorrakay> which require fpu emulation
[18:31]  * jorrakay is not an expert
[18:32] <jParkton> im already lost
[18:32] <jParkton> but sounds cool
[18:33] <jorrakay> Its just the arch I need to run ubuntu on my samsung chromebook
[18:33] <jorrakay> i'd really rather not reinstall/cross-compile
[18:33] <jParkton> whaaa
[18:33] <jParkton> not using crouton?
[18:34] <jParkton> or yours supports boot from usb
[18:35] <vwry> hello everyone! I have several keyboard settings. and lately the keyboard switches from one to the other randomly. to get the correct keyboard again I need each time to go to the system tray and select the corresponding language.
[18:35] <vwry> what can I do to fix this?
[18:38] <jorrakay> jParkton: yeah I put it in development mode so I could install to the SD card and boot from it
[18:39] <jorrakay> once you get linn it the chromebook is a slick machine for the $$
[18:39] <jorrakay> linux on it *
[18:39] <jParkton> yeah
[18:39] <jParkton> I have one but its nothing compared to my laptop
[18:39] <jParkton> it has some flaws
[18:45] <thunder1212> hi
[18:46] <jParkton> o/
[18:52] <thunder1212> laptop freeze caps lock key blinkin ubuntu 15.04
[18:56] <jacob_> :)
[18:57] <leo> LEO
[19:00] <jacklondon> help please, I want to associate a fileextension to a program, but I really don't have this option with Ubuntu 14.04 when "Open with..." my program is not in the list and there is no invite prompt, How to do that ??
[19:01] <Walex> it is a two step process: associate an extension with a MIME-type and then that with a program.
[19:02] <Walex> your desktop environment should have some settings that help with that, else look at 'xdg-mime'
[19:07] <borring> Hi! Where do I put the rtorrent.rc after installing rtorrent from the repo?
[19:07] <The_8473> And how do I make to auto start at boot?
[19:07] <The_8473> Any one using Rtorrent on Ubuntu 12.04?
[19:07] <The_8478> Running a seedbox or something like a p2p cache?
[19:07] <The_8478> Is it possible to recover a file after throeing it into /dev/null?
[19:07] <The_8478> What exactly is /dev/null ?
[19:07] <The_8478> Anyone?
[19:07] <fkaduck> The_8478: its where ur intelligence is located
[19:08] <The_8478> Im a robot.
[19:08] <The_8478> Im only programmed to learn from you teach. Duck.
[19:08] <The_8478> I will eat you roasted.
[19:08] <bazhang> The_8478, cut it out
[19:08] <ePirat> how to I enter GRUB while booting?
[19:09] <bazhang> hold shift ePirat
[19:09] <ePirat> bazhang, doesn't work
[19:09] <daji> how can I tell which version of libdvdread I have installed?
[19:09] <jacklondon> Walex: thanks, not easy, but it's a start.
[19:09] <Sarge123> Can I install Ubuntu on a system with an Ati 5850 ?
[19:09] <Sarge123> Has someone in here experiences with that?
[19:10] <BluesKaj> left shift right after the uefi/bios page, ePirat
[19:10] <ioria> jacklondon, you cant use 'Customize' from the Open with menu ?
[19:10] <ePirat> BluesKaj, does not work
[19:10] <jacklondon> ioria: do you mean : right clic on the file and "open with..." ?
[19:11] <BluesKaj> ePirat:  do you get a login page ?
[19:11] <ePirat> BluesKaj, yes
[19:12] <ioria> jacklondon, well, now i'm on pcmanfm, and in Open with . i have 'customize' menu that let me choose the app
[19:12] <BluesKaj> so you can boot into the OS ?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> ePirat: ^
[19:12] <ePirat> BluesKaj, yes
[19:12] <jacklondon> ioria: my program is not in the list, and there is no option to type a command.
[19:12] <The_88858> Hm! You cant ban me that ealisy,
[19:13] <ioria> jacklondon, properties - open with - ...  no 'Customize' option ?
[19:14] <jacklondon> ioria: I'm on ubuntu 14.04 with unity.
[19:14] <creeperlwd> i cant click on thing when my MadCatz R.A.T 3 mouse is connected
[19:14] <The_88858> Hmm!
[19:15] <jacklondon> ioria: no customize in my list
[19:16] <ioria> jacklondon, i'm sure there is an option to choose the app
[19:16] <The_84748> It will take a sec to rejoin!
[19:16] <The_84748> ha ha!
[19:17] <jacklondon> ioria: yes i can choose the app, I have  a list, "gedit, chrome, vlc, etc." but there isn't the program I want.
[19:17] <BluesKaj> ok then open grub with a text editor in the command run alt+f2 gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub and change the GRUB TIMEOUT=0 to 5 or 10 , or whatever number osecs you want to use before it autoboots, ePirat
[19:17] <Gurudev> Umm.. Using the Grub Customizer if you are running a GUI would be easier.
[19:18] <BluesKaj> Gurudev:  easier but dangerous
[19:18] <Gurudev> Why is it dangerous?
[19:18] <Gurudev> Does it mess up the MBR?
[19:18] <ePirat> BluesKaj, it already is set to 10
[19:20] <Gurudev> How I protect a system which is running on Ubuntu and physical access to some one? GRUB seems to allow resetting the root password via super user login!
[19:20] <Gurudev> had physical access to someone *
[19:20] <Sarge123> Is Ubuntu running on an amd 5850?
[19:20] <k1l> Gurudev: if there is physikal access there is not much you can do
[19:20] <ioria> jacklondon, you're right http://superuser.com/questions/798867/add-linux-program-to-list-of-other-applications-for-opening-files-from-nautilu
[19:21] <Gurudev> Is it possible to encrypt the data and with that encryption I can protect it? I mean after the system reboots the encrypted partition does not auto mounts!
[19:21] <jrtappers> Is there a good way to run a command once a day on a laptop, but wait till it has a connection to the internet with access to a server
[19:22] <Gurudev> Is it possible to set a system that way? I did read one such question on askubuntu. But the end result was not satisfactory.
[19:22] <jrtappers> Gurudev, Boot drive or just data
[19:23] <Gurudev> Which will save me from the unauthorize access of the system which is located at a remote place?
[19:23] <Gurudev> jrtappers: ^
[19:24] <jrtappers> Guru, what do you want to protect? The computer or the data? And what kind of computer?
[19:24] <BluesKaj> ePirat:  maybe the grub customizer will work for you, seems you have autologin turned on in grub , but mine doesn't show where to disable it
[19:25] <Gurudev> May be that is possible with a script, which will check the ping reply and run another script which will do that required job.
[19:25] <Gurudev> jrtappers: Its a cache server. I dont want anyone else to see whats inside. How it works and what is being stored.
[19:26] <jrtappers> Gurudev, where is the server?
[19:26] <Gurudev> At a remote location.
[19:26] <ePirat> BluesKaj, I don't think I have. It did work on the install I used before, where I hadn't enabled the UEFI but used BIOS fallback
[19:26] <Gurudev> jrtappers:
[19:26] <ePirat> is there some other way to boot with another kenerl except selecting it in grub?
[19:27] <jrtappers> Gurudev, that may be more difficult, what kind of adversary are we talking?
[19:28] <Gurudev> Compared to Windows Server is it that breaking root login password is easier for a Linux System if the attacker has physcial acces ot it?
[19:28] <jrtappers> Gurudev, If they have physical access, then security becomes a whole lot harder
[19:28] <Ranieri_> SchrodingersScat: Yo, PM me
[19:28] <Gurudev> Sadly they have!
[19:28] <Gurudev> jrtappers: ^
[19:29] <jrtappers> Gurudev, what kind of adversary are we talking?
[19:29] <jrtappers> Because if they can get to a firefire port or something similar, then it all becomes a lot more interesting if they know what they are doing
[19:30] <Gurudev> They are not any adversary. Atleast they themselves do not pose a threat as they are not Geeks. But they can hire anyone to break in into the system.
[19:30] <jacklondon> ioria: i'm near the solution...
[19:30] <jacklondon> ioria: thank you
[19:30] <k1l> Gurudev: with physical access no system is safe.
[19:30] <ioria> jacklondon, good
[19:30] <jrtappers> Gurudev, It gets really hard really fast
[19:31] <k1l> so limit the physical access, no matter what OS it is
[19:31] <jacklondon> ioria: Make sure your launcher includes the specific mimetype for your files (text/plain and text/x-markdown come to mind but you could run file --mime-type myfile.md or gvfs-info -a standard::content-type myfile.md and check the output).
[19:31] <jrtappers> Gurudev, DMA attacks are what you should deal with first https://github.com/carmaa/inception
[19:32] <jacklondon> ioria: file --mime-type test.pka    -> application/octet-stream
[19:33] <ioria> jacklondon, which is the application you want to use and associate ?
[19:33] <jacklondon> ioria: packettracer
[19:34] <Gurudev> Interesting - adversary
[19:34] <ePirat> BluesKaj, how to use the graphical thing?
[19:34] <jacklondon> ioria: there is no Mime-type in my desktop file
[19:34] <Bashing-om> ePirat: On a single install on a UEFI system, it is the escape key that grub looks for to activate the grub boot menu .
[19:34] <stemid> hey my autofs was working before I remade my nas volume. now when it's mounted I have no permission to it. just to clarify, it is mounted but with unknown user ids as owners so only root can read it. I've tried changing the autofs config to this *       -fstype=nfs4,rsize=65536,timeo=15       nas:/volume1/&
[19:34] <jacklondon> ioria: maybe i should add one line : MimeType=application/octet-stream
[19:34] <jacklondon> ioria: ?
[19:34] <ePirat> Bashing-om, ok I will try
[19:35] <stemid> and I have enabled idmap in nfs-common just as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs says
[19:35] <ioria> jacklondon, where exactly ?
[19:35] <Bashing-om> ePirat: Rather tan holding escape, repeatedly depress release . There is but a 3 second window .
[19:35] <Gurudev> Which file system is better for a 4 TB hdd? NTFS or EXT4 ?
[19:35] <polyphagia> ext4
[19:36] <jacklondon> ioria: in the file .local/share/applications/packettracer6.desktop
[19:36] <polyphagia> ntfs is almost the worst available option Gurudev
[19:36] <Gurudev> The drvse will be access at random speed and will contain med side files 500 MB.
[19:36] <k1l> Gurudev: if you want to run ubuntu dont choose ntfs
[19:36] <ioria> jacklondon, yep, try it
[19:37] <OerHeks> do both ext4 and ntfs
[19:37] <OerHeks> :-D
[19:37] <Gurudev> hm.
[19:37] <jParkton> lol
[19:37] <[twisti]> what is the ubuntu version of the deb command ? lts 12.04 if that matters
[19:38] <jParkton> WHAT?
[19:38] <jParkton> which command?
[19:38] <[twisti]> deb
[19:38] <Gurudev> How many TCP connection Ubuntu can handle? Is there a limit?
[19:38] <popey> [twisti]: deb is not a command.
[19:38] <jacklondon> ioria: should I restart ????
[19:38] <ioria> no
[19:38] <[twisti]> i see, my bad
[19:38] <emotion> Gurudev: if you want to use a single partition use a gpt partition table msdos has a 2tb limit per partition
[19:38] <k1l> [twisti]: can you rephrase or give more details on what the issue is exactly?
[19:39] <jParkton> [twisti]: as in to install deb packages?
[19:39] <emotion> [twisti]: you mean the version of dpkg?
[19:39] <jParkton> dpkg -i pack.deb
[19:39] <emotion> !info dpkg precise
[19:39] <jacklondon> ioria: nothing happens, no packettracer in the "open with..."
[19:39] <jParkton> then apt-get install -f if needed
[19:39] <k1l> !apt | [twisti]
[19:39] <[twisti]> no, im sorry guys, i was trying to add a source to my sources.list and thought the line was a command
[19:40] <jParkton> apt-add-repository some://
[19:40] <[twisti]> i figured out where it goes now
[19:40] <jacklondon> ioria: sorry, but is there a documentation reference for all this stuff ???
[19:40] <k1l> [twisti]: usually you dont add that manually. can you give more context?
[19:40] <[twisti]> http://code.bitlbee.org/debian/
[19:40] <Gurudev> A strange issue Im facing on Lubuntu, When Im trying to remove libreoffice, its trying to install ABIword!!
[19:41] <ePirat> Bashing-om, thanks, escape key worked! ( BluesKaj  )
[19:41] <ioria> jacklondon, can you paste the .desktop file ?
[19:42] <k1l> [twisti]: why dont you use the version of bitlbee ubuntu ships?
[19:42] <Bashing-om> ePirat: :) .
[19:42] <frib> when using dual monitors, is there a way to choose which monitor an app will full-screen to?
[19:42] <robhol> I have a screen instance that's... stuck. can't -r it, can't -S number -X quit it
[19:42] <[twisti]> k1l: because that doesnt support facebook
[19:43] <jParkton> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
[19:43] <Gurudev> ^ Uh!
[19:44] <jParkton> Namaskar Gurudev
[19:44] <k1l> [twisti]: what ubuntu are you on?
[19:44] <[twisti]> 12.04
[19:44] <[twisti]> (lts)
[19:44] <NicholasCage> I just need to sort out two more things to be really happy with my current ubuntuconfig, I need to install the crunchbang waldorf theme for nautilus and I need to make it slightly transparent, does anyone have a clue on how to go about ? I have googled and tried some attempt but I clearly lack the knowledge to do it all the way, I have tweaktools installed.
[19:44] <acetakwas> hi guys I no this isn't a hardware support channel, but could someone point me?
[19:44] <k1l> [twisti]: the latest bitlbee version is from july 2014. so nearly all latest ubuntus are nearly up to date
[19:45] <Gurudev> jParkton: ha ha! you have taken much time to namaskar me. I will nt give u any blessings.
[19:45] <[twisti]> its a recent change, last week or so, facebook turned of xmpp or whatever they used before
[19:45] <[twisti]> so im installing bleeding edge
[19:45] <jParkton> :(
[19:45] <jParkton> I accept this Gurudev my bad
[19:45] <bodhi_zazen> acetakwas, most hardware drivers are in the kernel
[19:45] <NicholasCage> [twisti]: does this mean I can't use Finch for facebook-chat anymore :( ?
[19:46] <jParkton> omg
[19:46] <jParkton> xmpp
[19:46] <[twisti]> NicholasCage: considering i have no idea what Finch is, no clue
[19:46] <jParkton> pidgin?
[19:46] <acetakwas> bodhi_zazen, lol
[19:46] <NicholasCage> [twisti]: It's pidgin from the command-line basically
[19:46] <[twisti]> i also dont know pidgin
[19:46] <jParkton> Gurudev: I want to code with you
[19:46] <NicholasCage> wow
[19:46] <jacklondon> ioria: http://pastebin.com/eHCxJy81
[19:46] <[twisti]> (im kidding, i actually do, just demonstrating that replacing one name with another isnt usually helpful) ;)
[19:47] <Gurudev> jParkton: Code? My code is 007.
[19:47] <acetakwas> I really need help with getting a hardware support irc channel, do you know any?
[19:47] <bazhang> ##hardware
[19:47] <emotion> acetakwas: /join #hardware
[19:47] <acetakwas> emotion, thanks
[19:48] <bazhang> jParkton, stop the offtopic commentary
[19:48] <jParkton> meh
[19:48] <jParkton> yezzir
[19:48] <jParkton> sorry about that
[19:48] <k1l> [twisti]: see https://wiki.bitlbee.org/Packages  and go with the tip of putting a file into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[19:49] <Gurudev>  join #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:49] <Gurudev> ;)
[19:49] <[twisti]> k1l: yeah, ive already got it working, but thanks
[19:50] <acetakwas> emotion, doesn't seem to be an active channel
[19:51] <acetakwas> join /python
[19:51] <Gurudev> Why ubuntu has ufw disabled by default?
[19:51] <acetakwas> oops
[19:51] <ioria_2> jackierobinson42,  in Exec try with  ./PacketTracer6 %f  and log out and login
[19:52] <OerHeks> Gurudev, it is without rules,  just install a gui like gufw and set it
[19:52] <backbox> Hello
[19:52] <leo> edsj
[19:53] <leo> hello
[19:53] <leo> i have problem with installation Microsoft Office 2013
[19:53] <backbox> Fairly new here
[19:53] <Gurudev> If some one does not sets any rules for ssh or telnet, is it that the system will be vulnerable to attacks
[19:54] <jParkton> not neccesarily
[19:54] <OerHeks> Gurudev, ssh and telnet are not standard activated.
[19:55] <jParkton> depends on a lot of other things, iptables, program version,
[19:55] <OerHeks> So the user should be aware what such service needs, plenty of wiki pages on ubuntu.com
[19:56] <Gurudev> At the install time I can see a button on ubiquity installer while removing the packges named as "Cancel". If I press it will it stop removing GCC and other alternate Languages?
[19:56] <acetakwas_> emotion, are you there?
[19:57] <Gurudev> I removed zram, gcc, g++ , ubiquity itself etc..
[19:57] <acetakwas_> Do you know any other hardware channel?
[19:57] <Gurudev> What exacy it  will leave from removing?
[19:57] <emotion> acetakwas_: did you ask your question there?
[19:58] <Amm0n> acetakwas_, ##hardware
[19:58] <acetakwas_> yes, but I didn't get a response
[19:58] <OerHeks> !alis
[19:58] <acetakwas_> Besides there are no active conversations going on there
[19:58] <jacklondon> ioria_2: thanks, i restart
[19:58] <acetakwas_> Amm0n, same channel mentioned by emotion
[19:59] <Amm0n> no he said #hardware
[19:59] <OerHeks> #hardware <> ##hardware
[20:00] <acetakwas_> OerHeks, ;)
[20:00] <acetakwas_> Amm0n, you get?
[20:00] <OerHeks> double ## are unofficial channels
[20:00] <Amm0n> acetakwas_, i get what?
[20:00] <Gurudev> Hiw! Can any one shed some info of what I asked.
[20:00] <Gurudev>  :(
[20:00] <acetakwas_> Amm0n, oh-oh that one is active, thanks
[20:01] <bazhang> Gurudev, install gufw, set them
[20:02] <Gurudev> Not that one... see the last one I asked.
[20:02] <Gurudev> :)
[20:02] <OerHeks> Gurudev, why would you stop ubiquity, with such special setup?
[20:03] <jacklondon> ioria_2: it doesn't work, packettracer not in the list
[20:03] <Amm0n> acetakwas_, most clients have a function to search what channels are available on a network, otherwise see what OerHeks posted
[20:03] <Gurudev> No. It shows the cansel button to stop removing the un necessary packages. Not to stop the instller.
[20:03] <Gurudev> OerHeks: ^
[20:03] <jacklondon> ioria_2: why is it so complicated to add a program to "open with..." ?? should I install windows 3.1 to do that ?? are we in 2015 ? :)
[20:04] <Gurudev> It removes the zram, GCC, Languge packs.
[20:04] <bazhang> Gurudev, cancelling removal will leave them
[20:04] <Gurudev> and then complains about not having proper languiage packs installed.
[20:05] <Gurudev> It removes the Gparted app. Which is the one thing I always install after a fresh install.
[20:05] <ioria_2> jacklondon it's unity, a bit complex http://askubuntu.com/questions/431703/how-to-add-open-with-custom-command-option-in-right-click-menu-of-nautilus
[20:05] <bazhang> Gurudev, thats normal
[20:05] <jacklondon> ioria_2: and when I launch packettracer i don't have the right icon in unity but a question mark
[20:06] <jacklondon> ioria_2: yes, and thank you for helping me
[20:06] <Gurudev> Why they remove the Gparted app?
[20:06] <Gurudev> Is not a good utility,
[20:06] <bazhang> no idea
[20:06] <Gurudev> ??
[20:06] <ioria_2> jacklondon np, i'm sure there is a solution
[20:06] <bazhang> so install it
[20:07] <OerHeks> the utility 'disks' can handle that, standard.
[20:08] <Gurudev> phew! Just crashed a Linux Server with UDP Unicorn or prehaps the port Im attacking stopped responding.
[20:08] <acetakwas_> I'm a huge Quora user and I hear I should leave Ubuntu for Arch to gain proficiency, what do you guys say to that?
[20:08] <Gurudev> How huge?
[20:08] <Gurudev> 350 KG?
[20:08] <Gurudev> Arch requires a lot of reading.
[20:08] <OerHeks> acetakwas_, do as you want, it is not support related here.
[20:09] <acetakwas_> OerHeks, how do you mean?
[20:09] <Gurudev> This is not a helpdesk either. Why no freedom.
[20:09] <OerHeks> !ot
[20:09] <k1l> acetakwas_: because you ask in a ubuntu channel. use ubuntu :)
[20:10] <Gurudev> !gudelines
[20:10] <Gurudev> !guidelines
[20:10] <Gurudev> !gl
[20:10] <Gurudev> !ubottu
[20:10] <Gurudev> !awk
[20:10] <Gurudev> !sed
[20:10] <popey> Gurudev: please don't abuse the bot
[20:10] <acetakwas_> okay, I'm sorry
[20:10] <bazhang> Gurudev, stop that
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> Gurudev  use /msg ubottu
[20:10] <OerHeks> please do that in /msg with ubottu
[20:11] <Gurudev> ha ha! Hmmm how it works? The ubottu?
[20:11] <popey> !bot
[20:11] <popey> read that
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> popey  you too, use /msg ubottu
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> oh, ok
[20:11] <popey> MonkeyDust: i was telling Gurudev
[20:11] <Gurudev> !ubot2
[20:12]  * caisar just laugh
[20:12] <Gurudev> Hmm...
[20:14] <Gurudev> Can any one attack a system via Upnp?
[20:14] <bazhang> Gurudev, thats not an ubuntu support issue at all
[20:15] <Gurudev> nah not! I cant see a channel with /join #upnp
[20:15] <k1l> !alis > Gurudev
[20:15] <acetakwas_> How do I minimize my computer's background internet usage to its bare minimum if I want to keep irc channels open?
[20:16] <bazhang> Gurudev, that does not make this the overflow channel for random offtopic questions
[20:16] <Gurudev> bazhang: [01:46] *alis* help upnp [01:46] -alis- No help available for upnp.
[20:16] <k1l> Gurudev: read the bots message and the message alis gives you. you are rushing and not reading and mixing commmands there
[20:17] <Gurudev> acetakwas_: Traffic shping is not as easy as in Windows. :( But there are few gudies around.
[20:17] <Gurudev> acetakwas_: Google: Traffic Shaping Ubuntu.
[20:17] <Gurudev> Or block ports in GUFW.
[20:19] <acetakwas_> Gurudev, okay thanks
[20:19] <Gurudev> k1l: What command I need to use to ask the bot about upnp related channels?
[20:20] <bazhang> !info trickle | acetakwas_
[20:20] <bazhang> !info wondershaper | acetakwas_
[20:20] <bazhang> !google > Gurudev
[20:22] <Gurudev> bazhang: I remember when I came into this for the first time and stackoverflow started askubuntu! Every one was suggesting me to GOOGLE and GOOGLE! What the heck. I like this new addition in Ubottus DB,.
[20:22] <acetakwas_> bazhang, aah thanks
[20:22] <k1l> Gurudev: the bot cleary explains what to use. and i think its enough sidetalk now.
[20:22] <atomi> how can I troubleshoot bluetooth that was working and now it isn't?
[20:22] <bazhang> Gurudev, please stop the editorialing and offtopic commentary
[20:22] <Gurudev> I dont get it! Will some few line make the freenode database full!?
[20:23] <atomi> its a keyboard and I can enter the passcode but the enter key doesn't trigger and then it just cancels
[20:23] <atomi> it says it's connected though but the button to turn it on is grayed out
[20:23] <atomi> I checked
[20:24] <Gv007> This is just stupid to kick me out! The channel allows to connect via proxy! You cant never stop me!  But Im sleepy. I will probably leave soon.
[20:24] <atomi> dmesg show Bluetooth Can't load firmware, may not work correctly :/
[20:25] <atomi> but I haven't made any changes to the firmware as far as I know
[20:27] <makintosh_> Fuck ass.
[20:27] <makintosh_> Bye bye,
[20:28] <NicholasCage> that was mature
[20:28] <atomi> you guys dealing with some shit?
[20:28] <ikonia> tone it down please
[20:28] <k1l> dont mind the trolls
[20:28] <ikonia> there is no need to swear
[20:28] <atomi> yeah
[20:28] <atomi> you gotta do that
[20:30] <atomi> ikonia: so how do I troubleshoot bluetooth unable to connect
[20:30] <atomi> the connection button is grayed out
[20:31] <atomi> but it appears to have connected (even though it's just saying that)
[20:31] <ikonia> no idea
[20:31] <atomi> yeah
[20:34] <jackierobinson42> is it possible for sound drivers to suddenly shut off?
[20:34] <atomi> its possible
[20:35] <jackierobinson42> how do i load it again
[20:35] <jackierobinson42> i dont think im in kernel 4.0 yet
[20:35] <jackierobinson42> 14.04 supports kernel 4.0?
[20:35] <atomi> yeah
[20:36] <jackierobinson42> how do i load it again
[20:36] <k1l> jackierobinson42: there is no official 4.0 kernel so far
[20:36] <jackierobinson42> ok
[20:36] <k1l> but in the mainline repo there are some latest kernels for testing purposes.
[20:38] <wafflejock> jackierobinson42, can check with alsautils package it has alsa-mixer for adjusting volume and arecord to record or aplay to play back
[20:38] <wafflejock> jackierobinson42, in the mixer verify nothing muted the audio use M to toggle mute on the channels
[20:38] <jackierobinson42> thanks
[20:38] <jackierobinson42> alsa works
[20:47] <maxosa> hi ubuntu, i just installed 14.04 desktop onto an old dell computer. spent time getting all the wireless drivers working and updating the system, but the computer won't reboot. i can't tell if it's hanging on the shut down or the start up, but i have to force a shut down and then reboot. does anyone have any experience with this?
[20:48] <maxosa> looks like the updates and settings persisted, so that's cool
[20:49] <pjanney> WHat is a distro that is actually stable with very little to no noticable bugs
[20:50] <bodhi_zazen> pjanney, there is not one
[20:50] <k1l> pjanney: take a look at ubuntu LTS versions
[20:50] <pjanney> So the LTS versions are not really buggy
[20:51] <bodhi_zazen> you can try Debian stable or RHEL or Centos or SUSE
[20:51] <pjanney> I am using Ubuntu 15.04 with Gnome 3 right now, as GNome 3 is about the only Desktop i like thus far
[20:51] <Bashing-om> !recovery | maxosa Can you boot up in recovery mode ?
[20:51] <bodhi_zazen> pjanney, that is not really true, LTS can have bugs that can not be easily resolved as package versions may be fixed
[20:52] <bodhi_zazen> "stable" and "bugs" depend on what hardware you have and what apps you run
[20:52] <k1l> pjanney: there is no "bug free" OS. but ubuntu LTS is well tested and stable. so give that a try
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> pjanney  better tell what issues you're experiencing
[20:52] <pjanney> My issues are not with apps thus far, its with the os itself, having to reboot twice just to get a screen thats not black, Ive seen that on 3 distros now.  Random misc crashes after updates
[20:53] <pjanney> ATI proprietary driver failures on Gnome 3 / Ubuntu 15.04
[20:53] <pjanney> Gnome 3 extensions randomly just disappearing
[20:54] <pjanney> Its not just Ubuntu either, in fact Ubuntu has been least buggy
[20:54] <pjanney> But I like Linux so far besides those annoying type issues and was wondering if there is a super stable, daily driver type os
[20:55] <k1l> pjanney: for non ubuntu support better see ##linux . we can only help to get ubuntu running in here
[21:05] <ubuntuidiot> can someone help me move a *.pem (Citrix certificate thingy) from my desktop to the /opt/Citrix/keystore/cacerts folder... it says access denied
[21:06] <Benno-007> ubuntuidiot: Read about sudo!
[21:07] <ubuntuidiot> @benno-007 sorry I've been battlling this all day. just need a hand
[21:08] <bodhi_zazen> ubuntuidiot, sudo cp ... ...
[21:08] <Benno-007> ubuntuidiot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[21:10] <Bashing-om> win 7
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuidiot: was sup?
[21:12] <ubuntuidiot> @actionparsnip trying to solve citrix server error 61 nightmare
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuidiot: how many bits are you using for ssl?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuidiot: is it sha256?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuidiot: sha1? Sha2?
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuidiot: do you only get the issue with Ubuntu clients?
[21:18] <asmodai_> I'm having an issue with my terminal. I know what the issue is I just don't know how to correct it. The gtk3 theme I've installed resizes the terminal to the point tht I can't even type a command :/
[21:18] <ubuntuidiot_> issue on firefox and chrome
[21:18] <ubuntuidiot_> i only run ubuntu 14.04
[21:18] <asmodai_> anyway I can change it without removing the theme?
[21:18] <asmodai_> ubuntuidiot whats the issue?
[21:19] <ubuntuidiot_> ssl server error 61
[21:19] <ubuntuidiot_> says i need to trust a certificate
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuidiot: is the ssl chain OK?
[21:20] <ubuntuidiot_> how do i check that?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuidiot: use your browser to view the certificate
[21:20] <adam27> Is there where I can ask about linux mint 17.1?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> !mint
[21:21] <adam27> !mint
[21:21] <k1l> adam27: see their chat. they are on another irc network. see the bots message
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuidiot: you may be missing the intermediate certificate from the ssl provider.
[21:21] <adam27> i tried that and it didnt work
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> adam27: there's nothing to 'try'
[21:22] <k1l> adam27: then see their site. they should have instructions there
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> adam27: Ubottu has told you the network and channel
[21:23] <ubuntuidiot_> SHA1 fingerprint: A0:26:EA:F9:44:17:B6:12:D3:2A:18:5C:44:E7:65:AA:23:90:E0:26
[21:23] <ubuntuidiot_> cant see anything about ssl
[21:23] <ikonia> ubuntuidiot_: what site are you visiting
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuidiot_: but does the Web browser say the certificate in is OK on the website
[21:24] <ubuntuidiot_> @ikonia its is-rds4.is.ed.ac.uk (university of edinburgh)
[21:25] <ikonia> ubuntuidiot_: the certificate is invalid
[21:25] <ikonia> talk to the site owner
[21:25] <ubuntuidiot_> @actionparsnip so do you want me to google the certifiicate?
[21:25] <ikonia> it's a self signed certificate
[21:25] <ikonia> the CA is the uni's AD server
[21:26] <ikonia> so you need the CA from the uni, or they need to use a public trusted certificate
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuidiot_: what ikonia said.
[21:27] <ubuntuidiot_> but other people (with windoze and macs) can use it... why not me?
[21:27] <ikonia> because they have the CA
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuidiot_: surprised they haven't put a proper cert in. They don't cost too much
[21:27] <ikonia> talk to the uni and they will help you
[21:27] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: it's a domain membership supplied CA
[21:28] <ikonia> so it make sense for them to use that, to only protect their machines
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: I guess but it's less headache with a public cert :-)
[21:29] <multiverse> !min
[21:29] <multiverse> !mini
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuidiot_: I get a cert warning on my android phone too.
[21:30] <ikonia> everyone who does not have the Uni CA will get a warning
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> I hate certs. Such a pita
[21:54] <Ranieri_> SchrodingersScat: I talked to Pharaoh, read my PM.
[22:07] <Fr3d3r1c> salut
[22:08] <Fr3d3r1c> j'aimerai comprendre la différence entre "^m" et "printf \\r" svp
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[22:09] <Fr3d3r1c> i would like to know the difference between "^m" et "printf \\r" please
[22:10] <Fr3d3r1c> sorry for "et", i went to say "and"
[22:10] <Fr3d3r1c> i wanted to say "and"
[22:10] <Fr3d3r1c> my english is bad
[22:21] <Pici> Fr3d3r1c: I'm pretty sure there is no difference.
[22:22] <Fr3d3r1c> ok thanks
[22:29] <Hilikus> can someone tell me why i'm getting this?
[22:29] <Hilikus> May 31 18:28:07 my-server kernel: [411579.742996] [UFW BLOCK] IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=e0:cb:4e:ca:da:53:1c:b0:94:8c:90:25:08:00 SRC=192.168.0.5 DST=192.168.0.10 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=23430 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=38813 DPT=6600 WINDOW=426 RES=0x00 ACK FIN URGP=0
[22:30] <Hilikus> if i have this in my rules
[22:30] <Hilikus> 6600,8000/tcp (MPD)        ALLOW IN    192.168.0.0/24
[22:31] <cryptodan> Hilikus: http://www.speedguide.net/port.php?port=6600
[22:32] <Hilikus> ??
[22:32] <Hilikus> i know what that port is, i am using it
[22:33] <tigrmesh> hi.  is there a list of what fonts are in a default ubuntu installation of trusty?  this tells me what's available, but not what is the default  http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/fonts-freefont-ttf/filelist
[22:35] <jmbarbier> Hilikus: maybe there is a deny before.. see ufw status numbered ?
[22:56] <OerHeks> tigrmesh, install unity tweak tool, it shows me http://picpaste.com/fonts-wb468mUk.png
[22:57] <Guest10959> hello
[22:57] <OerHeks> BTW this is 15.04
[23:02] <unkn0wn_user> Hey... First time on IRC. Hi folks
[23:02] <Azin> try ##chat
[23:02] <unkn0wn_user> ##chat
[23:03] <unkn0wn_user> #chat
[23:03] <Azin> try "/join ##chat"
[23:04] <unkn0wn_user> Thanks
[23:07] <andreas_> \connect fedora
[23:14] <xid> this is failing for me at the moment, but i was previously able to check the user, display and xauthority file that my dm was running under using 'ps', then i would set XAUTHORITY and DISPLAY so that I could use xrandr -q
[23:14] <devinmcelheran> Does anyone know how to get btrfs raid 5 booting using grub?
[23:15] <xid> you might need an EFI stub line and use it to load the btrfs kernel driver
[23:16] <xid> you might also already have that, and i also might be wrong
[23:16] <devinmcelheran> I'm not booting a U/EFI machine.
[23:16] <Razzdoll> I've returned :)
[23:16] <xid> is it set up right in your fstab?
[23:18] <devinmcelheran> xid: I believe so.
[23:19] <devinmcelheran> xid: I'm using Arch, but the room is pretty dead right now. Arch has a tool called genfstab that generates the fstab during install. It uses mount points that are currently mounted to generate it.
[23:20] <Razzdoll> I just install uBuntu 15.04. and I have a problem. Two actually. When I goto click on change desktop background, I no longer have an Appearences option, The printer icon is displayed twice, and overall it isnt the same as I once saw it after I restarted my machine. The other thing is, does anybody know how I can easily switch between windows? One window covers some up and so on and so forth.
[23:22] <tigrmesh> OerHeks, thanks.  i'm not running ubuntu.  i just want to make sure i pick that right fonts so that my site looks goot to ubuntu users
[23:22] <Razzdoll> oops
[23:27] <xid> devinmcelheran: did it compile the kernel again when you installed your raid and btrfs drivers?
[23:28] <Razzdoll> So can anyone help me when you get a chance
[23:29] <devinmcelheran> xid: Grub gave me an error saying it couldn't find the device.
[23:30] <bryguy_> I'm trying to get the fglrx drivers to work on my xubuntu 14.04 install. I selected fglrx (proprietary) in the additional drivers tab, rebooted, and found that the open source driver was still active. Is there something special I have to do to activate fglrx? I can't unload radeon because it's in use.
[23:31] <bryguy_> even worse, the additional drivers tab says that fglrx (proprietary) is in use when it's clearly not (lsmod shows radeon and not fglrx)
[23:31] <krabador> supposing i would run urban terror only in a second monitor
[23:32] <krabador> what must i set for this?
[23:32] <devinmcelheran> xid: I'm reinstalling now because I realized I forgot a flag in my mkfs.btrfs. I wanted raid 5 data, but I only put the metadata into raid 5, without the "-d raid5" I guess it defaulted to something else.
[23:32] <mssbrg> how to i set up a ppa from packages.ubuntu.com so I can apt-get from it?
[23:32] <mssbrg> specifically this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-backports/znc
[23:32] <mssbrg> *do
[23:33] <mssbrg> i'm not what to provide to apt-add-repository
[23:34] <Razzdoll> also why am I running at 1.60Ghz, when my machine is over 3Ghz -Saint- VERSION HexChat 2.10.1 / Linux 3.19.0-15-generic [x86_64/1.60GHz/SMP] - am I mistaken?
[23:35] <xid> mssbrg: ppa:precise-backports/znc
[23:35] <xid> apt-add-repository ppa:precise-backports/znc
[23:36] <mssbrg> xid: i tried that, get this error: Cannot access PPA (https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~precise-backports/+archive/znc) to get PPA information, please check your internet connection.
[23:36] <xid> Razzdoll: you might want to take a closer look besides simply trusting the output of a hexchat script
[23:38] <xid> that's not a ppa, it's just a list packages
[23:38] <Razzdoll> xid; lol. i know, i was just thinking that as i pasted it haha
[23:39] <mssbrg> xid: oh, hm. so how exactly do I install?
[23:40] <kittyfirekitty> I need help booting a liveUSB, anyone have time to slap me for being stupid in some outwardly obvious way that i can't see from here?
[23:41] <mssbrg> kittyfirekitty: just ask :)
[23:42] <xid> mssbrg: the way i do it is edit the /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment backports
[23:42] <kittyfirekitty> UEFI, win8.1, using the bios boot menu, it just doesn't do anything (flickers screen then back too boot menu) if i re-enable secure boot it gives me a security issue and also fails to boot
[23:42] <xid> generally just the 'deb' line, not 'deb-src'
[23:42] <xid> then apt-get update
[23:44] <xid> but you probably already have the Ubuntu Updates app, so you can also enable it there by clicking a checkbox
[23:45] <mssbrg> xid: cool thanks. (doing this on a server btw). is deb-src the one to get source packages?
[23:45] <xid> yes
[23:45] <Razzdoll> Ok I solved the appearence issue myself, now all thats left is the window issue
[23:46] <tigrmesh> OerHeks, thanks again  :)
[23:47] <xid> The other thing is, does anybody know how I can easily switch between windows? One window
[23:47] <kittyfirekitty> created a liveUSB using the suggested windows utility, LinuxLive USB Creator, from the ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso, and can't get the live usb to boot
[23:47] <xid> "one window covers some up and so on and so forth.f"
[23:47] <xid> I generally just use alt+tab
[23:48] <bazhang> xid is this unity or gnome-shell
[23:48] <xid> bazhang: pasting Razzdoll's question
[23:48] <mssbrg> kittyfirekitty: did you try making one via dd? that's my usual goto
[23:49] <Razzdoll> xid; Maybe I'm asking the wrong question. Workspaces, the four windows in one?
[23:50] <Johnny_Linux> Ctrl+Alt+< >   ??
[23:50] <xid> you can also usually click on the one you want
[23:50] <kittyfirekitty> don't have a way to do that, my new laptop was to replace the old one, old one was from < 2000 so no uefi, i tried using the virtual box, but them bastards shipped the 32bit version of windows, so i can't even run that
[23:50] <Johnny_Linux> thats w/compiz
[23:50] <Razzdoll> I don't know Johnny_Linux :/ - xid it doesn't allow me. I don't see any.
[23:51] <OerHeks> !uefi
[23:51] <xid> sounds like the workspaces applet is missing Razzdoll
[23:51] <xid> but i can't remember what it's called
[23:51] <Johnny_Linux> work space switcher
[23:51] <xid> Razzdoll: unity or gnome-shell, or what?
[23:51] <kittyfirekitty> yep thats sounds great and exactly what i've done
[23:51] <Razzdoll> xid: I just went into "Enable" workspaces, but I still don't see it. Unity I think. 15.04 ubuntu
[23:52] <mssbrg> kittyfirekitty: what machine do you have available right now?
[23:52] <kittyfirekitty> asus t100
[23:52] <xid> i think you have to go to Activities to switch workspaces in Unity, right?
[23:53] <xid> without adding a panel applet manually
[23:53] <mssbrg> kittyfirekitty: can you install linux in a virtualbox on your new laptop?
[23:54] <kittyfirekitty> the methods that i've tried won't let me cause its running 32bit windows version, all the installation methods are for x64, i've been downloading the 32bit iso for a while, if there is something i can do in the mean time...
[23:55] <Ben64> kittyfirekitty: the version of windows you have has nothing to do with what iso you should get
[23:55] <kittyfirekitty> really ben?
[23:55] <Ben64> really, its about your cpu
[23:56] <RaMcHiP> Hola
[23:56] <VA6DAH> o/
[23:56] <RaMcHiP> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zw7aw5lhcydms5a/2015-05-31%2017.18.33.jpg?dl=0
[23:56] <kittyfirekitty> This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU....
[23:57] <kittyfirekitty> trying to virtualize the key
[23:57] <Ben64> virtualize?
[23:57] <kittyfirekitty> if you keep up with the conversation i was just told to try to virtualize the boot to see if it would work, and i told the person (mssbrg) why that isn't working for me
[23:57] <Ben64> ah
[23:58] <Ben64> do you have the option to legacy boot
[23:58] <kittyfirekitty> so while i'm waiting for the 32bit iso to download so i can virtualize that and try to install from linux... any suggestions on the issue?
[23:58] <kittyfirekitty> no
[23:59] <kittyfirekitty> if i do, it is automatic/hidden and doesn't appear to work, i've tried a grub disc i had lying around and can't get the grub menu
[23:59] <Ben64> i'm still wondering what the point of virtualbox is
[23:59] <Ben64> you might need to go into the bios setup to see it