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| Noskcaj | thanks bluesabre | 06:53 |
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| elfy | pleia2: are we still planning to do "Create user survey 2: Xubuntu preferences to help inform us whether defaults satisfy userbase" ? | 09:42 |
| knome | ochosi, ping | 15:50 |
| dkessel | elfy: i am tinkering around with the ISO tracker... would a script producing this information (live data) help you in any way? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11476521/ | 16:33 |
| dkessel | formatting can be changed to your liking ;) | 16:33 |
| ochosi | knome: pong | 17:29 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: No. | 17:29 |
| ochosi | Unit193: ? | 17:30 |
| ochosi | no to pinging knome? | 17:36 |
| elfy | dkessel: kind of , a level deeper would be more | 17:46 |
| elfy | hi ochosi | 17:46 |
| dkessel | elfy: what exactly is missing? user info or bug info? | 17:48 |
| elfy | dkessel: what's it for though? rather - why are you looking? | 17:50 |
| ochosi | bbabl | 18:08 |
| dkessel | I looked at the item that says "draw data from the tracker" or something on the qa blueprint | 18:18 |
| dkessel | elfy: ^ | 18:20 |
| elfy | oh right | 18:21 |
| dkessel | It should be possible to integrate the output of the script wherever it is needed | 18:22 |
| elfy | dkessel: that'd be sufficient for that | 18:22 |
| elfy | is this script easy to run and modify? | 18:23 |
| dkessel | well it is python ;) my first draft: https://code.launchpad.net/~dkessel/+junk/python-qatracker-xubuntu | 18:24 |
| dkessel | It should be possible to run that out of the box. I modified the example hidden behind the API link on the tracker | 18:25 |
| elfy | that blueprint item was something that ochosi and I were discussing mid vivid | 18:26 |
| elfy | so it's possible I'll discard the idea | 18:29 |
| elfy | personally it would be quite useful if I could get an LP name with test reported number | 18:30 |
| dkessel | I'm not sure if the user names are returned through the api, but I could have a look. The blueprint is saying something like weekly stats, which could be possible. | 18:33 |
| dkessel | Also, there is this work item for knome about "more meaningful data". I wonder what exactly that is. | 18:34 |
| elfy | right - not sure this is something you should spend too much time on :) | 18:34 |
| elfy | that is mostly about the same thing - given that I'm not going to be manually extracting info for the QA incentive thing | 18:35 |
| elfy | dkessel: also while the blueprint has stuff on it - I'm still looking at it - so it's not finished really | 18:37 |
| dkessel | elfy: just trying to be useful while I have one or two days to spare ;) but I guess it's just too early in the cycle then | 18:43 |
| elfy | yea I understand that - but probably is too early | 18:44 |
| elfy | that said if that script could tell me that in 64bit on day x we had so many of each done - eg summary of the numbers on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds/92402/testcases | 18:46 |
| elfy | then I would use it - currently I'd be opening up a weeks worth at a time to look | 18:47 |
| elfy | which is a pita | 18:47 |
| dkessel | I think I can make that a list sorted by day. CSV output might be nice for a spreadsheet or something | 18:54 |
| elfy | that'd be rather useful to me :) | 19:00 |
| dkessel | Good :) | 19:06 |
| ochosi | evening all | 20:56 |
| Unit193 | No. | 20:58 |
| bluesabre | Yes | 21:59 |
| bluesabre | evening ochosi | 21:59 |
| ochosi | evening bluesabre | 22:00 |
| ochosi | and thanks for the affirmative word :) | 22:00 |
| bluesabre | :) | 22:01 |
| ochosi | soooo | 22:01 |
| bluesabre | I just got excited, didn't know this existed in the api :) | 22:01 |
| bluesabre | https://lazka.github.io/pgi-docs/#Gtk-3.0/classes/ApplicationWindow.html#Gtk.ApplicationWindow | 22:01 |
| ochosi | i talked to the elementary folks, they're (as expected) not interested in our LO effort | 22:01 |
| bluesabre | indeed | 22:01 |
| ochosi | oh, sounds nice, i also didn't know. but then again i haven't actively dealt with gtkapplication | 22:05 |
| bluesabre | I use it very very hackily with menulibre (and I think maybe catfish) | 22:06 |
| bluesabre | that will make it less hacky :) | 22:06 |
| ochosi | :) | 22:06 |
| bluesabre | I was thinking wtih CSD catfish, maybe using a split headerbar (https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/files/2014/01/Screenshot-from-2014-01-13-081511.png), folder selection and sidebar filters on left | 22:07 |
| ochosi | Unit193: while the elementary folks weren't excited about the LO icons thing, xubuntu-core got quite some praise! | 22:08 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: yeah, that could work | 22:08 |
| bluesabre | otherwise, this is easy to accomplish, http://i.imgur.com/ILlFtuW.png | 22:08 |
| ochosi | well, you can always start with this and move to the split headerbar | 22:09 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 22:09 |
| bluesabre | thats the plan | 22:09 |
| ochosi | i guess what's nice about the split is that the folder-selection and the filter somehow belong together | 22:09 |
| ochosi | without the sidebar, the separator might look a bit over the top | 22:09 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 22:10 |
| bluesabre | if I went with the split, the sidebar would always be displayed | 22:10 |
| ochosi | but anyway, starting with the low-hanging fruit is probably good | 22:10 |
| bluesabre | mhm | 22:10 |
| ochosi | also, i wanted to ask you whether you had a minute or two to test and quickly review a commit for xfpm (eric is on holidays) | 22:10 |
| bluesabre | sure | 22:11 |
| ochosi | i think you might've tested it before, rebased it on master now | 22:11 |
| ochosi | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4499 | 22:11 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 4499 in General "Display percentage and battery time next to icon" [Enhancement,Assigned] | 22:11 |
| ochosi | i can't properly test this atm because my laptop burned down | 22:11 |
| ochosi | so i have this old laptop without battery | 22:11 |
| ochosi | not really ideal for this feature | 22:11 |
| bluesabre | true | 22:12 |
| ochosi | and my new one takes anther 3 weeks to arrive :'( | 22:12 |
| bluesabre | just use the latest patch? | 22:12 |
| ochosi | yup | 22:12 |
| bluesabre | cool | 22:12 |
| bluesabre | it'll take me a bit, will add the patch to the 1.5 package and install that way (so I don't trash my system) | 22:13 |
| ochosi | sure | 22:13 |
| ochosi | no rush | 22:13 |
| ochosi | but i think after that small feature, i'm ready for 1.5.1 | 22:13 |
| ochosi | it's a bit early, but the bugs in 1.5.0 with the icons are just too annoying | 22:14 |
| bluesabre | +1 | 22:14 |
| ochosi | and this way at least there's a new feature to test | 22:14 |
| ochosi | btw, i'm not sure the patch will cleanly apply on top of 1.5.0 | 22:14 |
| ochosi | you need git master | 22:14 |
| knome | ochosi, did you mean "you need a git, master" | 22:17 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: so it seems :( | 22:17 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: didnt we set up a daily built xfpm somewhere at some point? | 22:17 |
| bluesabre | oh right, thats in https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 22:20 |
| ochosi | heh, there you go ;) | 22:22 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: its installed | 22:40 |
| bluesabre | what do you need me to test? | 22:40 |
| ochosi | this sums it up: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4499#c33 | 22:40 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 4499 in General "Display percentage and battery time next to icon" [Enhancement,Assigned] | 22:41 |
| ochosi | btw, i've meanwhile replaced 30 icons for LO, this is really quite a bit of work | 22:41 |
| bluesabre | for some reason, not getting any label here | 22:44 |
| ochosi | screener of xfce4-settings-editor with the property plz? | 22:45 |
| bluesabre | maybe its because my battery is so full | 22:45 |
| bluesabre | http://i.imgur.com/ZhQL6eE.png | 22:46 |
| ochosi | if it is, then yes, the label is hidden | 22:46 |
| ochosi | it depends on whether upower says your battery is still charging or not | 22:46 |
| ochosi | not on the load-level | 22:46 |
| bluesabre | I see | 22:47 |
| bluesabre | suppose I should play a game to empty it out a bit then | 22:47 |
| ochosi | :) | 22:47 |
| ochosi | you can check with "upower -d" whether it's charging or not | 22:47 |
| ochosi | the property looks ok though | 22:47 |
| ochosi | so in case the patch got applied, everything *should* be working | 22:48 |
| bluesabre | http://paste.ubuntu.com/11482893/ | 22:48 |
| ochosi | hmmm | 22:51 |
| ochosi | sry, not sure now why that's not working :( | 22:51 |
| bluesabre | I think upower 0.99 is no good with my laptop... I'm definitely no longer charging | 22:52 |
| bluesabre | also, GTK's hiding scrollbars kind of suck compared to Ubuntu's, I don't need the scrollbars to cover up the content I'm scrolling through :\ | 22:53 |
| bluesabre | (gtk 3.16) | 22:54 |
| ochosi | hmm | 22:55 |
| ochosi | yeah, haven't tested those yet | 22:55 |
| ochosi | meh, adding a modified zip folder to /usr/share/libreoffice/share/config/ obviously isn't enough to make the theme show up in the LO icon theme selector | 22:56 |
| bluesabre | yeah, for other non-official themes, they end up replacing the theme with tango | 22:56 |
| ochosi | ? | 22:57 |
| bluesabre | http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=143474 | 22:58 |
| bluesabre | rename your zip to images_crystal.zip and replace the existing one | 22:58 |
| ochosi | actually i made it show up now | 22:59 |
| bluesabre | oh cool | 22:59 |
| ochosi | it has to go in /usr/lib... | 22:59 |
| ochosi | for whatever reason | 22:59 |
| ochosi | the icons don't show up yet though, something's clearly not working right | 22:59 |
| ochosi | i have no idea how they create the zips | 23:00 |
| ochosi | maybe there's something special about them | 23:00 |
| * bluesabre shrugs | 23:00 | |
| ochosi | http://i.imgur.com/EvwYcYH.png | 23:02 |
| bluesabre | fancy theme | 23:03 |
| bluesabre | :p | 23:03 |
| ochosi | yeah, i prefer it to the "human" theme :) | 23:03 |
| ochosi | ok, got it working now | 23:10 |
| bluesabre | nice | 23:11 |
| ochosi | i think the best way to make this available for testing is the zip | 23:13 |
| ochosi | we should just create a package that installs that and a symlink to it in the right place | 23:13 |
| ochosi | maybe you can take a peek at the packaging | 23:13 |
| ochosi | i think if we only want to replace the essential icons, we can do that this cycle easily | 23:13 |
| ochosi | thing that cause the most work is that they have ridiculous icon size like 26x26 | 23:14 |
| ochosi | http://i.imgur.com/VE2Pg0N.png | 23:16 |
| ochosi | think i'll focus on the toolbar and the primary menus | 23:16 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: sure, I can investigate creating a package with this... maybe we can set up a branch for it to to work with | 23:30 |
| ochosi | should be fairly easy | 23:30 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 23:30 |
| ochosi | the final package does very little | 23:30 |
| ochosi | http://i.imgur.com/kkuTCRP.png | 23:30 |
| ochosi | soon, most of the horrible orange icons will be gone btw | 23:32 |
| bluesabre | :D | 23:32 |
| * bluesabre doesn't suggest that he likes Human/Humanity | 23:33 | |
| bluesabre | and ochosi is using adwaita? | 23:33 |
| bluesabre | :o | 23:33 |
| ochosi | no, that's only cause i was testing a local copy of greybird and synaptic wanted root | 23:33 |
| bluesabre | ah, gotcha | 23:34 |
| ochosi | so many horrible icons | 23:34 |
| ochosi | oh lord, that'll be a nice piece of work | 23:34 |
| ochosi | question: can you somehow make the zip-ification of the theme take place in the packaging? | 23:37 |
| ochosi | i mean theoretically i guess i could script it, too | 23:37 |
| ochosi | thing is i would prefer to keep the whole icon theme somewhere as source files in git or something | 23:37 |
| ochosi | and then the zip is needed for packaging, so i could push that to a separate branch or something from which to build the package | 23:37 |
| ochosi | or keep it there in the same branch even | 23:38 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 23:39 |
| bluesabre | we can do that | 23:39 |
| bluesabre | make a branch and drop all of the folder structure in a subfolder, we can zip that structure | 23:39 |
| ochosi | so zipping in the packaging? | 23:41 |
| bluesabre | yes | 23:41 |
| ochosi | cool | 23:43 |
| ochosi | that'd be perfect | 23:43 |
| ochosi | so the next question is: git or bzr | 23:43 |
| bluesabre | either, shimmerproject exists in both :) | 23:44 |
| ochosi | :) | 23:44 |
| ochosi | if you dont care at all, i'll go for github | 23:45 |
| bluesabre | go for it | 23:46 |
| ochosi | okeydokey | 23:46 |
| ochosi | i'll have something for you to work with in a few minutes | 23:46 |
| bluesabre | cool | 23:48 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: there you go: https://github.com/shimmerproject/libreoffice-style-elementary | 23:56 |
| ochosi | hmm | 23:56 |
| ochosi | i wonder whether the subfolder was a good idea... | 23:56 |
| ochosi | since you said you can zip it up in the packaging | 23:56 |
| ochosi | but either way, that's a hint: the zip has to have that name: images_elementary.zip | 23:57 |
| ochosi | i'll remove the folder again now | 23:57 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: sure | 23:58 |
| bluesabre | I'll actually add a makefile that does the zipping, and the package will be easy because of that | 23:58 |
| bluesabre | so it won't be debian only | 23:58 |
| bluesabre | :) | 23:58 |
| ochosi | cool | 23:59 |
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